Working a 9 to 5 to support your IM habit??

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Just a quick curiosity post..... how many Warriors are still working a 9-5 job to support your IM habit? I'm full-time but most of our subscribers/fans are part-time. How many of you are full-time? How many part-time? What's the magic $$$ number that it will take for you to go full-time? Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author retsced
    The magic number for me would have been $4000 a month if I hadn't already packed my job in beforehand. That was a big mistake in the beginning because having cash to invest for advertising is crucial IMO. Either that or be ready to work your ass off to compensate for lack of funds, which, unfortunately I had to do in the beginning. I almost gave up 23-1/2 times in the process of making a full time income. Not to mention alienating anyone outside of my one bedroom apt.
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    • Profile picture of the author James King
      You almost gave up 23.5 times... that is hilarious. I can relate. But I'm still grinding away at it.
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    I work 2 jobs to support my IM habit, 55 hours a week.

    I'll quit one job once I can get to a steady $400 a week.


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  • Profile picture of the author Djeims
    I quitted my job when I started making $3000 a month. It is way better to do only what you love
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    • Profile picture of the author peggyann
      Would you please tell me what your doing on your IM business? Making $3K sounds great!
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      • I'm full time but I would happily quit if I was getting $4000 a month maybe even $3500, I am long way off this yet but I WILL NOT QUIT.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tayman
          For me it was about multiple streams of consistent income and not a specific amount. 10-20k months wont matter if there are huge gaps. I had to stop swinging for the fences and start getting multiple singles.
          This way, when a campaign inevitably dies I have many others to depend on. Nothing kills creativity and concentration like stressing over bills.
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  • Profile picture of the author Glen Barnhardt
    I got laid off from my 100,000.00 a year job. I was already doing my IM work and didn't make squat.

    Then I couldn't find any work. This was in 2000. It was sad. I sold my home (before they took it). I found a job for 300 a week which was pathetic. I finally hooked up with another marketer that had a lot of experience and we did JV's together.

    I made great money quit the 300.00 job and never looked back. Once you figure out how to make money then it's just a matter of duplication and expansion.

    How much you need depends on your standard of living. If you have a 2000.00 mortgage vs a 800.00 a month rent then each has a different need. You really need to assess your needs. Then add an amount to continue duplication and expansion of your IM business then add a buffer amount that you can put away for just in case moments.

    For me it was only 1500.00 a month. Today it takes 8000.00 a month.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4DayWeekend
      The way you've worded this "to support your IM habit" suggests IM is costing you money. In reality IM should be making you money...

      A 9-5 should support your "lifestyle" while you build your IM biz.

      However your IM Biz should never be costing you more than you make. If it is, you need to rethink that!

      I quit my day job in 2010... I'd strongly suggest building your IM income up to at least on par with your day job salary before you quit though. Especially as the economy can change at such a rapid pace.
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  • Profile picture of the author maz1207
    I'm a full time Freelancers and that's what i use to support my IM habit..or should i say IM addiction. I can't stop from buying themes and plugin, it's like an addiction. You should try to get into Freelancing to get more $$$.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      Keeping your day job to pay your basic bills while you work on building your business is just plain smart.

      As others mentioned though, if it's supporting your "IM habit", then it sounds like a hobby, not a business. If you're still trying to figure out what you want to do though, that's kind of where you'll be until you DO figure out what you want to do. They key is to be deliberate and figure it out as fast possible and then stick with it until you make it work (don't jump around from one thing to the next!).

      Once you've decided, then use your day job to pay your basic bills and expenses associated with your IM business.

      Hard Truth: You DO need some sort of cash flow to start a business, even a cheap IM business.

      I don't care what anyone tells you, you can't start a business with NO money. Yes, IM is one of the cheapest ways to get into business. But it still requires some cash.

      At the very least, you need:

      1. A good website
      2. A domain name
      3. An autoresponder service (like AWeber)
      4. Etc.

      Yes, I know some businesses can be started with NO website, but not many. And yes, some people hustle and provide services to generate the cash they need for a good website, domain name, autoresponder, etc.

      But most will need these basics. Fortunately, these ongoing expenses are minimal.

      Once your website is up, you'll need SOME cash to do some marketing. Don't fall into the trap of thinking you can do it all for free.

      You need a roof over your head and food to eat. Plus you need some money to start and run your biz. The money has to come from somewhere. You'll also move a lot faster than someone trying to do everything for free if you're willing to invest some cash on a regular basis.

      Maintaining a full-time job while trying to build a business on the side can be exhausting. Believe me, I know! However, it's still MUCH easier than trying to do everything for "free" or when you're unemployed.

      The good news is that an IM business CAN be started in your spare time with minimal expense. If you take it seriously and are consistent about building your business, you can build a business WITHOUT loans from the bank or credit card debt. That's actually quite an accomplishment!

      IM is not a lottery ticket or an ATM. We see people here every day asking how to generate fast money to cover their rent or house payment or some other imminent bill. In spite of the lure of fast, easy money, IM requires some time and setup in the beginning. It's NOT instant.

      If you need instant money, you're better off mowing lawns or providing some other similar service.

      Hope that helps!

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      • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
        Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

        Keeping your day job to pay your basic bills while you work on building your business is just plain smart.

        As others mentioned though, if it's supporting your "IM habit", then it sounds like a hobby, not a business. If you're still trying to figure out what you want to do though, that's kind of where you'll be until you DO figure out what you want to do. They key is to be deliberate and figure it out as fast possible and then stick with it until you make it work (don't jump around from one thing to the next!).

        Once you've decided, then use your day job to pay your basic bills and expenses associated with your IM business.

        Hard Truth: You DO need some sort of cash flow to start a business, even a cheap IM business.

        I don't care what anyone tells you, you can't start a business with NO money. Yes, IM is one of the cheapest ways to get into business. But it still requires some cash.

        At the very least, you need:

        1. A good website
        2. A domain name
        3. An autoresponder service (like AWeber)
        4. Etc.

        Yes, I know some businesses can be started with NO website, but not many. And yes, some people hustle and provide services to generate the cash they need for a good website, domain name, autoresponder, etc.

        But most will need these basics. Fortunately, these ongoing expenses are minimal.

        Once your website is up, you'll need SOME cash to do some marketing. Don't fall into the trap of thinking you can do it all for free.

        You need a roof over your head and food to eat. Plus you need some money to start and run your biz. The money has to come from somewhere. You'll also move a lot faster than someone trying to do everything for free if you're willing to invest some cash on a regular basis.

        Maintaining a full-time job while trying to build a business on the side can be exhausting. Believe me, I know! However, it's still MUCH easier than trying to do everything for "free" or when you're unemployed.

        The good news is that an IM business CAN be started in your spare time with minimal expense. If you take it seriously and are consistent about building your business, you can build a business WITHOUT loans from the bank or credit card debt. That's actually quite an accomplishment!

        IM is not a lottery ticket or an ATM. We see people here every day asking how to generate fast money to cover their rent or house payment or some other imminent bill. In spite of the lure of fast, easy money, IM requires some time and setup in the beginning. It's NOT instant.

        If you need instant money, you're better off mowing lawns or providing some other similar service.

        Hope that helps!

        Michelle
        you can do it without a website and without the money, it just all depends on your drive and how determined you are.
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        • Profile picture of the author Abul-Hussain
          Originally Posted by Walter Parrish View Post

          you can do it without a website and without the money, it just all depends on your drive and how determined you are.
          Of course you can, just as you can walk from London to Paris. Why walk, when you can catch a train at a reasonable cost?

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          • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
            Originally Posted by Abul-Hussain View Post

            Of course you can, just as you can walk from London to Paris. Why walk, when you can catch a train at a reasonable cost?

            Abul
            why rely on IM as a long term business plan? lol

            because not everyone can afford a ticket.

            Many of your self made millionaires, billionaires, were once homeless, but developed the drive to help them become successful.

            on the sidenote and keep in mind I haven't even begun yet with this internet marketing.

            Being as I was in affiliate marketing near when it started. I needed information, so I purchased a few Wso's by gurus to get me started. The one thing I noticed was that these people started sending me wso offers daily. So, I figured their getting paid for Wso's. I did the research and discovered warriorplus.

            At the time I hung out a lot on Blog Talk Radio, so I would have conversations with the folks who participated in the various shows discussing IM and finding out who had an interest.

            I created a list of 5 people. Added them to my google email account NOT AWEBER because I couldn't afford aweber at the time. As the wso offers came out daily I would write reviews of the different products and send them out to my short list. This was before I discovered warriorplus. When I discovered warriorplus those links were affiliate links. I was surprised when they started buying.

            Month 1 - 60 bucks
            Month 2 - 100 plus

            And that's not bad for someone who hasn't even started yet. On top of that when I look at the list which grew to around 10 subscribers 40% were buying. 40% without a ticket as you call it lol Cheers

            now many with the ticket can do that?
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            • Profile picture of the author Abul-Hussain
              Originally Posted by Walter Parrish View Post

              why rely on IM as a long term business plan? lol

              because not everyone can afford a ticket.

              Many of your self made millionaires, billionaires, were once homeless, but developed the drive to help them become successful.

              on the sidenote and keep in mind I haven't even begun yet with this internet marketing.

              Being as I was in affiliate marketing near when it started. I needed information, so I purchased a few Wso's by gurus to get me started. The one thing I noticed was that these people started sending me wso offers daily. So, I figured their getting paid for Wso's. I did the research and discovered warriorplus.

              At the time I hung out a lot on Blog Talk Radio, so I would have conversations with the folks who participated in the various shows discussing IM and finding out who had an interest.

              I created a list of 5 people. Added them to my google email account NOT AWEBER because I couldn't afford aweber at the time. As the wso offers came out daily I would write reviews of the different products and send them out to my short list. This was before I discovered warriorplus. When I discovered warriorplus those links were affiliate links. I was surprised when they started buying.

              Month 1 - 60 bucks
              Month 2 - 100 plus

              And that's not bad for someone who hasn't even started yet. On top of that when I look at the list which grew to around 10 subscribers 40% were buying. 40% without a ticket as you call it lol Cheers

              now many with the ticket can do that?
              I'm not sure I understanding what you mean by relying on IM as a long term business plan? I see IM as a set of strategies to support my existing businesses.

              Coming back to the subject - you are right, not everybody could afford a ticket!

              Yet, I find it hard to believe that people could afford a telephone line and a broadband connection and can't pay for something like a $10/month autoresponder service. That is the only paid service you need to get started.

              All I was saying is the more cash you have to invest, the quicker the results you achieve.

              All respect and kudos is due to those who didn't have cash to invest and became self-made millionaires. However, the self-made millionaires I've come across, somebody at some point had enough faith in them to lend them money or to provide the resources for them to get a jump start.

              Good luck on your journey Walter

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              • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
                Originally Posted by Abul-Hussain View Post

                I'm not sure I understanding what you mean by relying on IM as a long term business plan? I see IM as a set of strategies to support my existing businesses.

                Coming back to the subject - you are right, not everybody could afford a ticket!

                Yet, I find it hard to believe that people could afford a telephone line and a broadband connection and can't pay for something like a $10/month autoresponder service. That is the only paid service you need to get started.

                All I was saying is the more cash you have to invest, the quicker the results you achieve.

                All respect and kudos is due to those who didn't have cash to invest and became self-made millionaires. However, the self-made millionaires I've come across, somebody at some point had enough faith in them to lend them money or to provide the resources for them to get a jump start.

                Good luck on your journey Walter

                Abul
                I was just getting to the point that anything long term should have a focus on not depending on outside forces the way that merchant business does. Any merchant business always has the potential to fall on it's face. A war, A bad economy, Bad Crops etc could cause the merchant business to fail.

                you're missing the whole point, the point was that i was doing with a gmail account what many couldn't do in 6 years with what you refer to as tickets. so, the autoresponders are not necessarily needed.

                I agree and disagree on the cash thing. Money doesn't always help if you don't know what you are doing. However, in the hands of the right person it definitely helps.

                Interesting spin on the millionaire's the ones I have met also got resources, more so in the ways of information that helped them to learn to fish better.
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          • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
            Originally Posted by Abul-Hussain View Post

            Of course you can, just as you can walk from London to Paris. Why walk, when you can catch a train at a reasonable cost?

            Abul
            btw merchant based business is the lowest form of business in the world. make it a long term goal to move into other forms of business.
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    • Profile picture of the author WRCREX
      Originally Posted by maz1207 View Post

      I'm a full time Freelancers and that's what i use to support my IM habit..or should i say IM addiction. I can't stop from buying themes and plugin, it's like an addiction. You should try to get into Freelancing to get more $$$.
      Good advice....I will check into this=)
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      • Profile picture of the author fin
        I write so I suppose you could call that a 9-5, but in a good way.

        Don't think I would quit until I was making AT LEAST 5K for a good 5/6 months. I wouldn't jump ship on a whim and have the income disappear.
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  • Profile picture of the author smith33122
    I actually went back to work because I got lonley working by myself (I know I am a sad individual) so I make less on the IM, but make up for it with salary - I sell data lists during the day.

    Funny enough it was what I learned on the forum that got me the job which is not so easy these days when you are 55
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  • Profile picture of the author WRCREX
    I worked full time until Aug 2011, then stopped once my IM generated me 75% of my salary, reliably per month. I cut spending, and increased sleeping=) Never been happier.
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  • Profile picture of the author ceenote100
    I was able to quit my part-time job earlier this year.
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  • Profile picture of the author mickyl
    For me this is on the opposite - I work on the IM market to support my art habit. I wish one day I'd be able to combine the two (maybe an eBook about glass art making)
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  • Profile picture of the author Abul-Hussain
    If somebody treats IM as a habit, then I'm afraid they have a poor MINDSET and will find it difficult to make it work for them.

    IM like any other business, needs a marketing plan and a budget. The bigger your budget, the quicker the results [usually!].

    The biggest problem a lot of people I've worked with have is the SHINY OBJECT SYNDROME.

    They work half-heartedly on one plan, come across a BIG PRODUCT LAUNCH that will solve all of their problems and they can make it work sipping on Pina Coladas in Hawaii!

    Sadly, the next thing that happens is that they fall into the trap of thinking a product will buy them the BIG DREAM. So they buy one product after another chasing that dream of "getting rich quick" on the Internet. They forget that the people behind the product launches have worked their asses off to make their million$. Most people have no idea how demanding and stressful a product launch can be!

    This is how you develop an IM habit! Like any other expensive habit, it needs to be eradicated.

    The biggest obstacle for a person doing IM part-time from going full-time, is a solid plan to build a sustainable business.

    Promoting click bank products [that have a life-cycle] is not a sustainable business. Making money from ranking CPA sites is not a sustainable business. These activities may make you a lot of money in the short term, but cannot support you in the long run.

    The only way to go from making a part time income to making a full time income is by treating this as a SERIOUS BUSINESS.

    I know I have digressed from the main topic, but I thought I'd add a wake up call to make this thread a bit more productive.

    It's not the magic $$$$ that should make somebody quit their job, but rather how long will the magic $$$$ last, after they tell Bob to stick it!

    Hope this can inspire a real discussion on how to go full time.

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    • Profile picture of the author Brains Gone Wild
      Originally Posted by Abul-Hussain View Post

      If somebody treats IM as a habit, then I'm afraid they have a poor MINDSET and will find it difficult to make it work for them.

      IM like any other business, needs a marketing plan and a budget. The bigger your budget, the quicker the results [usually!].

      The biggest problem a lot of people I've worked with have is the SHINY OBJECT SYNDROME.

      They work half-heartedly on one plan, come across a BIG PRODUCT LAUNCH that will solve all of their problems and they can make it work sipping on Pina Coladas in Hawaii!

      Sadly, the next thing that happens is that they fall into the trap of thinking a product will buy them the BIG DREAM. So they buy one product after another chasing that dream of "getting rich quick" on the Internet. They forget that the people behind the product launches have worked their asses off to make their million$. Most people have no idea how demanding and stressful a product launch can be!

      This is how you develop an IM habit! Like any other expensive habit, it needs to be eradicated.

      The biggest obstacle for a person doing IM part-time from going full-time, is a solid plan to build a sustainable business.

      Promoting click bank products [that have a life-cycle] is not a sustainable business. Making money from ranking CPA sites is not a sustainable business. These activities may make you a lot of money in the short term, but cannot support you in the long run.

      The only way to go from making a part time income to making a full time income is by treating this as a SERIOUS BUSINESS.

      I know I have digressed from the main topic, but I thought I'd add a wake up call to make this thread a bit more productive.

      It's not the magic $$$$ that should make somebody quit their job, but rather how long will the magic $$$$ last, after they tell Bob to stick it!

      Hope this can inspire a real discussion on how to go full time.

      Abul
      Abul-Hussain - I think you may have taken my topic question a bit too seriously. I referenced the "IM habit" in jest, only implying a healthy addiction and passion for the business. I think (and hope) that we can all agree that, yes, it is a serious business. However, the beauty of being in business for yourself (IMO) is that you can also have a little fun, too. I believe that there is danger in taking ourselves too seriously. While I think you and I are reading the same book, we are definitely are different pages.
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      • Profile picture of the author Abul-Hussain
        Originally Posted by brainsgonewild View Post

        Abul-Hussain - I think you may have taken my topic question a bit too seriously. I referenced the "IM habit" in jest, only implying a healthy addiction and passion for the business. I think (and hope) that we can all agree that, yes, it is a serious business. However, the beauty of being in business for yourself (IMO) is that you can also have a little fun, too. I believe that there is danger in taking ourselves too seriously. While I think you and I are reading the same book, we are definitely are different pages.
        Hey buddy, I can tell you were jesting.

        However, the sad truth for a lot of people is, it becomes a habit for all the wrong reasons. I've heard of people who can't afford their living expenses spending dollars on IM related products.

        I just thought I'd get people from thinking about $$$$ to start thinking SERIOUSLY about what they need to do to go full-time.

        I agree totally with you it's very fun and fulfilling to get to that full-time stage. I know from personal experience that the part-time stage is definitely not as fun and can be very frustrating.

        So how about we change the direction a little bit from how much do you want to make to go full time, to THIS IS WHAT I DID TO GO FULL TIME. Wouldn't you agree, that way we'd both [and others] be able to inspire a lot more people?

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        • Profile picture of the author Brains Gone Wild
          Originally Posted by Abul-Hussain View Post

          Hey buddy, I can tell you were jesting.

          However, the sad truth is for a lot of people, it becomes a habit for all the wrong reasons. I've heard of people who can't afford their living expenses spending dollars on IM related products.

          I just thought I'd get people from thinking about $$$$ to start thinking SERIOUSLY about what they need to do to go full-time.

          I agree totally with you it's very fun and fulfilling to get to that full-time stage. I know from personal experience that the part-time stage is definitely not as fun as the full time stage and can be very frustrating.

          So how about we change the direction a little bit from how much do you want to make to go full time, to THIS IS WHAT I DID TO GO FULL TIME.

          Wouldn't you agree, that way we'd both [and others] be able to inspire a lot more people.

          Abul
          Abul - Absolutely! That is a better question.... what did it take for everyone to go full time. Money isn't (or shouldn't be) the sole motivation in going all in.
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          • Profile picture of the author Abul-Hussain
            Originally Posted by brainsgonewild View Post

            what did it take for everyone to go full time.
            For me, I created a sales funnel of information products in a market, where I had a lot of knowledge. I knew my market was full of hungry buyers before I created the products.

            I created a manual that I sold online for £47. I wrote everything myself and that took two weeks.

            Then I sourced a DVD course as a backend, which someone else had produced but I got the exclusive UK licence for. I sold the 10 set DVD course for £197 to my LIST of manual buyers.

            As the final step in my funnel, I organised a 1 day seminar and sold tickets to the DVD set buyers for £997.

            All of this took about 6 months of hard work to put together. I currently have other similar sales funnels making me an income

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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    I worked full time until I was laid off in June. Luckily I was making more than enough with IM to cover all of my expenses and now it's my full time income. I couldn't be happier.
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    • Profile picture of the author koreancowboy
      I would say around 5-6K/month on a semi-passive basis. I enjoy writing so much that I don't think that I'll ever have a fully passive business model.

      That being said, I also would probably have at least a part-time job, especially one with benefits.
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  • Profile picture of the author zoulkifl
    Working online requires some sort of capital.
    When getting started you will need a day job to help out. What do you mean by IM Habit?

    Are you referring to it as a business or a hobby. These two are different and it all depends on what you plan on doing for yourself in the future.

    I still have my day time job and IM is helping me take care of my bills.
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  • Profile picture of the author Smokin Joe
    I have mainly played at IM more as a hobby then a source of income.

    But I have recently decide to replace my day job. Mainly because although I am quite good at it I just hate to go to work everyday.

    The minute the monthly income hits $4K I am out of there.
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  • Profile picture of the author contentwriting360
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    I simply begin my day, week, and month with an end-goal in mind. My goal is to meet my sales quota for Content Writing 360°. Today, I'm working as a full-time Help Desk Associate.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrPete2000
    Excellent thread, some great replies here!

    I used to be full-time IM from 2000 - 2007 when I made the decision to accept full-time work (as in 9-5 job). Though technically I'm a freelancer, it's still essentially a job.

    The decision was fueled by the fact that I had a small child and wanted one more so the steady income was very attractive. At the beginning there was my IM income as well, supplementing the 9-5 earnings... very nice. Over time, all my years of IM efforts wasted away to nothing (only $100-300/m now) and after 5 years, my 9-5 gig is standing on very shaky legs!

    Honestly, giving up your day job for IM makes sense only when you are making enough to live comfortably AND you are confident that you can still grow the IM business. This will ensure at least some near-future stability and positive outlook.

    Trust me when I say there is NOTHING better in this world (work related) than living comfortably with a semi-passive IM business!!!

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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
      Originally Posted by zivkovicp View Post

      Excellent thread, some great replies here!

      I used to be full-time IM from 2000 - 2007 when I made the decision to accept full-time work (as in 9-5 job). Though technically I'm a freelancer, it's still essentially a job.

      The decision was fueled by the fact that I had a small child and wanted one more so the steady income was very attractive. At the beginning there was my IM income as well, supplementing the 9-5 earnings... very nice. Over time, all my years of IM efforts wasted away to nothing (only $100-300/m now) and after 5 years, my 9-5 gig is standing on very shaky legs!

      Honestly, giving up your day job for IM makes sense only when you are making enough to live comfortably AND you are confident that you can still grow the IM business. This will ensure at least some near-future stability and positive outlook.

      Trust me when I say there is NOTHING better in this world (work related) than living comfortably with a semi-passive IM business!!!

      Pete
      That was one of my biggest mistakes giving up doing my own business for the comforts of a stable income. My business before I went into the 9 to 5 was flipping websites on ebay, this was before flippa and all the other main stream stuff. 2 to 4 sites per week 250 to 450 on the auction block avg, and then 10 to 24 monthly for the hosting.

      Anyway, at least you know something about IM.
      Good luck with that.
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    I would say, I'd be comfortable quitting my day job once I pulled in about $5000 for 4-5 months, and had at least 3 months in the bank in case disaster strikes.

    Here's hoping that happens, one day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I'll probably never make my internet business my sole income provider. I'm passionate about computer networking and it's what i'm in college for right now. When i get a computer networking job, i will have my job income plus my internet income (plus my fine model chick). I hate being broke... time to solve that problem.
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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      I'll probably never make my internet business my sole income provider. I'm passionate about computer networking and it's what i'm in college for right now. When i get a computer networking job, i will have my job income plus my internet income (plus my fine model chick). I hate being broke... time to solve that problem.
      All I can say is make sure you keep your IM AM and other internet business running, because there are plenty of folks who do networking out of work.

      I remember when I did tech support for ms windows. Guys sitting around me had electronics backgrounds, military, all of their certifcations and college degrees, some even had router certifications, and a host of other things including Nasa and Area 51 experience. And guess what? lol We all got paid our 10 bucks per hour working under contract for MS.

      Most made their money in side businesses not tech support and not in networking. Heck there's guys out there who wrote softwares and the systems who were out of work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    I was working a 9-5... but then I got laid off!
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    • Profile picture of the author ujubo
      My aim is to earn around $3000 a month over 3 consecutive months. That is the point where I believe that I can put in that 9-5 in my own business rather than making the money for someone else.
      So rather that spending my free time on IM, I can dedicate my working time to it and have more time for my life!
      $300 is probably more than I need but I like to have a bit of a buffer
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  • Profile picture of the author markcr
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    Run a real business. 99.99% of what I see here isn't a real business but "gaming SEO, Facebook etc" No wonder they need "jobs" to do as well. Hyping things up and selling it isn't good for long term relationship building. In REAL biz that is key to success.

    Run a proper biz. Grow it. Enjoy it. Work hard, play hard. Build a brand, be proud. OR....

    If you are "gaming" systems then yes keep looking over your shoulder for the day you log in and it says "suspended" START ALL OVER AGAIN.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author MrPete2000
      Originally Posted by markcr View Post

      Run a real business. 99.99% of what I see here isn't a real business but "gaming SEO, Facebook etc" No wonder they need "jobs" to do as well. Hyping things up and selling it isn't good for long term relationship building. In REAL biz that is key to success.

      Run a proper biz. Grow it. Enjoy it. Work hard, play hard. Build a brand, be proud. OR....

      If you are "gaming" systems then yes keep looking over your shoulder for the day you log in and it says "suspended" START ALL OVER AGAIN.

      Good luck!

      This is probably the best post thus far. You hit the nail on the head with this comment!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brains Gone Wild
    What great answers and replies. It's fascinating (and insightful) to read all the replies and gain an understanding of what makes all us warriors "tick", motivators, etc...

    At least it seems like we can all agree that we love what we're doing, whether it be part time of full!

    Thanks for all your replies! Have a great weekend
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