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Top 5 WSO for newbies... what have worked for you?

by Lucky500
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Hello fellow Warriors,

As a newbie in the warrior forum I am very overwhelmed with the amount of information, this is a bad and a good thing.

Good because there is a lot of useful information for a person that is just starting in the IM world. (This is by far the best forum for information and products)

Bad because, Wow, so much information thrown at you, is very easy to get overwhelmed and discourage.

So my question is:

Do you have a top 5 WSO that worked for you (newbies or when you were a newbie)?
Even if you don't have 5, what products worked best for you when you started?

And a note for the moderators, it would be very nice to have section for newbies on the forum, it gets very overwhelmed for newbies, and sometimes my questions are so basic that I feel kind of dumb asking it for majority of the people that uses this forum.
#newbies #top #worked #wso
  • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
    I have tried three that will remain unnamed, and haven't made a ¢
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by RobinInTexas View Post

      I have tried three that will remain unnamed, and haven't made a ¢
      Hi Robin,

      Could you share the general models of these "Newbie Friendly" WSO's? IE PPC, blackhat, adsense, blogging, etc - Just a general rundown without giving away the specific techniques?

      Also, can you elaborate on what ticked you off with them? Why do you feel you were not able to complete them or make money as they had promised?

      Greatly appreciated.

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      • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
        Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

        Hi Robin,

        Could you share the general models of these "Newbie Friendly" WSO's? IE PPC, blackhat, adsense, blogging, etc - Just a general rundown without giving away the specific techniques?

        Also, can you elaborate on what ticked you off with them? Why do you feel you were not able to complete them or make money as they had promised?

        Greatly appreciated.

        Jill
        I'm not exactly ticked off, the first two were WSO's targeted at niches, I have not managed to drive enough traffic to them to make them work, so I guess I should share some of the blame.

        I think I am experiencing a problem shared by many if not the vast majority of people new to IM. There are very few ways to start to build good traffic to a website. I have one WP-based site that I suspect 30-50% of the hits to date are from whatever it was that left comments that AKISMET flagged as spam.

        I think what I got in the WSO's was ok, except one of them had article content that was written by an ESL person, I was not real happy to rewrite the content.

        The third WSO was very recent and related to driving traffic, and it's too early to judge it, I think it might help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucky500
    Thanks for sharing your "bad" experiences Robin.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lucky500
        Originally Posted by yesacpow View Post

        There are many guides that will help you. You just have to stick to it and follow the methods, master it before you move on.

        Sick to one program at a time otherwise you will find yourself jumping about with no success!

        Thanks Yesa
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Lucky,

        I think you bring up an extremely valid point. Yes, everyone is here to try to make money and learn how to make money, but perhaps the first issue that needs to be resolved is deciding just what type of model you want to follow.

        Without having done any of them, you would have no clue as to how they work. There are several methods and models to choose from.

        Perhaps I can offer some questions you can ask yourself first which will help you to ask questions on the WSO threads before deciding to buy.

        Don't be afraid to ask the person running the WSO these questions either, because a lot of times others have the same inquiries.

        First you need to know how much you have to invest after the purchase of the WSO itself.

        Just because it is a $10 WSO does not mean that is all you will spend to implement what it teaches. For instance, a WSO about adwords will require additional investment in adspend. A WSO about listbuilding may require you to purchase aweber which is 20 bucks a month. A WSO about doing your own blog will require you to also invest in hosting and domain names.

        So the first thing you need to know is what is your personal budget for starting your business. That right there may be enough information to help you decide where to go next.

        You may want to figure out if you want to make a blog or a static website. Both of these things are created differently and both have easy and more complicated ways of being done.

        Do you want to create your own products or just affiliate? Both of these models require completely different sets of knowledge with some bits that cross into each other.

        Do you want to specialize in a specific service, like writing articles for money or do you want to use your own content and articles to manage a blog that is optimized for adsense?

        All of these things work, but some will be easier and some may not float your boat.

        You could buy a WSO on a fully created niche site with the articles and autoresponders created and think that is all there is to it - but if you have no knowledge of how to drive traffic you may see it as a complete failure.

        So asking what else do I need to complete this WSO could be an important question. It may not always equate to an additional investment of money - but may be a matter of a time investment if you are not willing or yet ready to outsource.

        Ask if the methods used in the WSO have been proven. Ask how long one should wait to see results. Ask if the items will easily lose their effectiveness if a lot of people are doing the same thing.

        Ask what types of technical skill will be required, and are those technical skills explained as well or will you need to get that information elsewhere. Are they in an ebook or on video? And ask yourself which way you learn these things better.

        See if the WSO has testimonials, and if they do see if you can verify those sources and look to see what their reputations are.

        While it is valid to get word of mouth from others here in the main forum, everyone is very different in how they learn, what works for them, etc.

        Hope this helps you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucky500
    Thanks for the elaborated answer Jill.

    I am trying to learn as much as possible, but I am definitely checking the sources before I buy a WSO or a program.

    These offers sometimes sounds tempting like a product that I sought "Blackhat unleashed" but I don't think a product like that will bring much value for a beginner. I think in my case I better learn all the white hat first and have my blogs established before I try something like that.

    I am really looking for a product that would automate the process of opening a new blog/site. I know getting a site well ranked is time consuming, but must that process be so absorbing and time consuming that one have to lose the interest in making money online in the process?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Lucky500 View Post

      Thanks for the elaborated answer Jill.

      I am trying to learn as much as possible, but I am definitely checking the sources before I buy a WSO or a program.

      These offers sometimes sounds tempting like a product that I sought "Blackhat unleashed" but I don't think a product like that will bring much value for a beginner. I think in my case I better learn all the white hat first and have my blogs established before I try something like that.

      I am really looking for a product that would automate the process of opening a new blog/site. I know getting a site well ranked is time consuming, but must that process be so absorbing and time consuming that one have to lose the interest in making money online in the process?
      The good news is you don't need to wait for a site to rank before making money on it. And there are places to promote on the web that won't cost more money (or even any money) that can be used to drive traffic for quicker results.

      As far as automating a blog, Wordpress can be installed and running within seconds once you've done the process a couple of times, and you can select just a few plugins that will do the automated content thing if that is what you are looking for - yes, those plugins cost a little money. There is also a service on the web that will do most of it as well but is expensive as a membership option IMO.

      So, it sounds like you have a clear picture of what you are looking for. As far as WSO's go you should focus on those that will bring you closer to that goal and those within your budget.


      If you don't see them today, don't get discouraged. In fact, I'm having a psychic vision that something will appear in the next week. Of course that could just be the flu medicine I'm on right now kicking in.
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      • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
        Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

        The good news is you don't need to wait for a site to rank before making money on it. And there are places to promote on the web that won't cost more money (or even any money) that can be used to drive traffic for quicker results.
        I have not tried any WSO yet but I believe that you don't need a cent to start making a sale.

        I noticed newbies here are more focused on techniques and strategies which is not wrong but they failed to understand their niche, or the target audience.

        If you have not made a single sale yet and is thinking of giving up, do yourself a favor by spending 50% of time on research and 50% of your time in techniques and strategies.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony X
    I think it depends on what you want to do. I think the best WSOs that I've seen are Jeremy Kelsall Bootcamp, Bryan Zimmerman's Newbies guide, Jon Orana's keyword research method (I forgot the actual name of it), and that's pretty much it.

    If you want to get started in CPA, then pick up Yellowboy's WSO...it's a Newbie's CPA guide with a bunch of secret ways to get top rankings in EzineArticle.

    There are probably a lot more, but those are the ones that I've used and have been successful with.

    And by successful...I mean making a few thousand dollars a month, every month. But to be completely fair...I wasn't really a "newbie" went I used those guides.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lucky500
      Originally Posted by Tony X View Post

      I think it depends on what you want to do. I think the best WSOs that I've seen are Jeremy Kelsall Bootcamp, Bryan Zimmerman's Newbies guide, Jon Orana's keyword research method (I forgot the actual name of it), and that's pretty much it.

      If you want to get started in CPA, then pick up Yellowboy's WSO...it's a Newbie's CPA guide with a bunch of secret ways to get top rankings in EzineArticle.

      There are probably a lot more, but those are the ones that I've used and have been successful with.

      And by successful...I mean making a few thousand dollars a month, every month. But to be completely fair...I wasn't really a "newbie" went I used those guides.
      Thanks for the great info Tony

      Lucky500, you can have my Ebook free if you PM me, it's only $7 anyway.

      I like to help and i know how frustrating it can be when you're new. I've had lots of good feedback from my book. If you need any help with it you can pm me.

      I've never been asked for a refund.
      Thanks Matt, I will definately take a look at it.


      Lucky for you, Lucky, there is already a post for newer people. It's a sticky at the top of the forum, and can be found at...



      Also, asking for the best 5 WSOs probably won't help all that much. People have different opinions, skill levels, likes, dislikes, and preferred business models - any or all of these will skew their list.

      In other words, my list may not help you at all.

      One other recommendation: Apart from the link above, join the War Room. It's one investment that gets you the equivalent of several WSOs, and virtually ALL of the junk has been weeded out.

      Wishing you every success,
      Michael
      Thanks for the info and kind words, Michael.


      The good news is you don't need to wait for a site to rank before making money on it. And there are places to promote on the web that won't cost more money (or even any money) that can be used to drive traffic for quicker results.

      As far as automating a blog, Wordpress can be installed and running within seconds once you've done the process a couple of times, and you can select just a few plugins that will do the automated content thing if that is what you are looking for - yes, those plugins cost a little money. There is also a service on the web that will do most of it as well but is expensive as a membership option IMO.

      So, it sounds like you have a clear picture of what you are looking for. As far as WSO's go you should focus on those that will bring you closer to that goal and those within your budget.


      If you don't see them today, don't get discouraged. In fact, I'm having a psychic vision that something will appear in the next week. Of course that could just be the flu medicine I'm on right now kicking in.
      Thanks jill, I've been playing around with WP a little bit, I opened a host account and bought my domain, just got to play around with the add-ons and themes now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
        Lucky,

        I think it was Jill that gave you some REALLY GOOD ADVICE.

        Take a look around and read up on some of the different Online business models to see which one you think best fits your skill set or the one that you
        Think you would like to do the most.

        After you come to some sort of decision on that, start to seek out the experts or the people that know what they are talking about. Then start out small. Try to grasp a small portion of the business model - and then progress from there.

        Believe it or not, understanding just one business model will make all kinds of lights come on for you when it comes to other models that you might be interested in down the road.

        Whatever you do, don't do the following 2 things...

        1. Don't start buying things that you don't plan to use.
        2. Don't over complicate the whole thing.

        Good Luck,

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        • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
          While I agree some of the WSO are about as much use as a chocolate teapot and the quality slightly below that of a $2 suit, there's a lot of very good WSO that do the rounds.

          The biggest problem I've seen is that people just don't follow through, they seem to think they will get rich by information osmosis of some kind.

          Just reading something doesn't actually make you any money.

          Just go and bloody do it and you'll find that a lot of the WSO offer incredible value for money if only you would apply the information.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lucky500
            Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

            While I agree some of the WSO are about as much use as a chocolate teapot and the quality slightly below that of a $2 suit, there's a lot of very good WSO that do the rounds.

            The biggest problem I've seen is that people just don't follow through, they seem to think they will get rich by information osmosis of some kind.

            Just reading something doesn't actually make you any money.

            Just go and bloody do it and you'll find that a lot of the WSO offer incredible value for money if only you would apply the information.
            I like your motto Simon, Some people will get off on others make money, but won't take any action because they feel overwhelmed. you are right my friend.
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        • Profile picture of the author Lucky500
          Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

          Lucky,

          I think it was Jill that gave you some REALLY GOOD ADVICE.

          Take a look around and read up on some of the different Online business models to see which one you think best fits your skill set or the one that you
          Think you would like to do the most.

          After you come to some sort of decision on that, start to seek out the experts or the people that know what they are talking about. Then start out small. Try to grasp a small portion of the business model - and then progress from there.

          Believe it or not, understanding just one business model will make all kinds of lights come on for you when it comes to other models that you might be interested in down the road.

          Whatever you do, don't do the following 2 things...

          1. Don't start buying things that you don't plan to use.
          2. Don't over complicate the whole thing.

          Good Luck,

          Jeremy
          Thanks Jeremy,

          I guess I will need to start taking some action now, instead of looking for a magic bullet. I really like to try to make some money from adsense, however CPA is definitely a close 2nd in my list.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
            Lucky,

            Originally Posted by Lucky500 View Post

            Thanks Jeremy,

            I guess I will need to start taking some action now, instead of looking for a magic bullet. I really like to try to make some money from adsense, however CPA is definitely a close 2nd in my list.

            There is definitely money to be made in CPA, but you might want to get your feet with with some site building and affiliate marketing first so that you are not completely overwhelmed when you set out to do it.

            Also, start looking at methods to drive traffic to your offers. There are free methods and paid methods.

            Decide how much time you have to invest daily or weekly.
            Figure out how much cash you have for a budget.

            When you figure these things out, you will have a better idea of the road that you are going to have to start off in.

            The other thing that you need to understand is regardless of the method you choose, chances are you are going to fail once or twice It's not a big deal. The people that do well in this business are the ones that can shake off a week of no sales and use that as motivation to perfect their craft.

            One last thing...

            While there are tons of ebooks, courses, and coaching products out there -- Don't go into debt on them if you can't afford it. There is more than enough free information readily available to get you started. After you get going you will have a better idea of where you should be investing your money for help.

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            • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
              Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

              Lucky,


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              One last thing...

              While there are tons of ebooks, courses, and coaching products out there -- Don't go into debt on them if you can't afford it. There is more than enough free information readily available to get you started. After you get going you will have a better idea of where you should be investing your money for help.

              Jeremy
              That shouldn't be an afterthought. That is a KEY point. All the "pay me bucks and I'll turn the internet into your money machine" are generally programs that present information that is available for free. Do you want to pay $47 or $97 or $497 or $1997 to have somebody organize all the information that is out there for free. Sometimes it is well organized and may be worth it.

              I was fortunate enough to get my money back from an expensive program that started out looking great and evolved into chaos with several people presenting conflicting viewpoints on how to make it all work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Hoey
    Lucky500, you can have my Ebook free if you PM me, it's only $7 anyway.

    I like to help and i know how frustrating it can be when you're new. I've had lots of good feedback from my book. If you need any help with it you can pm me.

    I've never been asked for a refund.

    Hope it helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by Matt Hoey View Post

      Lucky500, you can have my Ebook free if you PM me, it's only $7 anyway.

      I like to help and i know how frustrating it can be when you're new. I've had lots of good feedback from my book. If you need any help with it you can pm me.

      I've never been asked for a refund.

      Hope it helps.
      wooooah.. Matt

      You might wanna check out the forum rules about sig files dude

      You can find them here:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ead-first.html

      Pay close attention to sig file rule # 4

      Peace

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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
        Jay,

        Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

        wooooah.. Matt

        You might wanna check out the forum rules about sig files dude

        You can find them here:

        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ead-first.html

        Pay close attention to sig file rule # 4

        Peace

        Jay
        He was trying to help someone out by giving him something for free.

        What is your warrior spirit
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        • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
          Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

          Jay,



          He was trying to help someone out by giving him something for free.

          What is your warrior spirit
          I wasn't talkin about his post.. I was talkin about the size of the text in his sig. file
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          • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
            ahhh

            Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

            I wasn't talkin about his post.. I was talkin about the size of the text in his sig. file
            lmao - I didn't even see that -- He's got a whole blog post in there lmao

            Sorry Jay, I truly feel like an arsehole now
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            • Profile picture of the author Matt Hoey
              Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

              ahhh



              lmao - I didn't even see that -- He's got a whole blog post in there lmao

              Sorry Jay, I truly feel like an arsehole now
              Hehe - damn now i'm the arsehole >.<
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Hoey
        Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

        wooooah.. Matt

        You might wanna check out the forum rules about sig files dude

        You can find them here:

        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ead-first.html

        Pay close attention to sig file rule # 4

        Peace

        Jay
        Ah sorry i didn't know, i just thought it looked good. I see the point in it though, i'll just go change it to something more acceptable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Lucky for you, Lucky, there is already a post for newer people. It's a sticky at the top of the forum, and can be found at...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-new-read.html

    Also, asking for the best 5 WSOs probably won't help all that much. People have different opinions, skill levels, likes, dislikes, and preferred business models - any or all of these will skew their list.

    In other words, my list may not help you at all.

    One other recommendation: Apart from the link above, join the War Room. It's one investment that gets you the equivalent of several WSOs, and virtually ALL of the junk has been weeded out.

    Wishing you every success,
    Michael
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      Lucky for you, Lucky,
      ^^ w00t!..lol
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    • Profile picture of the author kwameg
      Sometimes, it depends on your definition of a newbie, I work in IT and people are always telling me how computer illiterate they are, of course when you spend a little time with them or try to explain things to them on that level, you find that they know a lot more than they think they do or might admit.

      Most of the time, they are just trying not too look stupid. Often when you buy instructional materials, the first few chapters ALWAYS cover things that you know, and take for granted, so sometime people feel slight and think they are not getting their money worth.

      The majority of the WSOs I have purchased have had some value to re-enforce or elaborate on something I already knew and some have actaully provide some new information.

      In most case, you have to recognize, that there are some new variations of old techniques, but for the most part, learning and implementing the basics and then innovating on the basics is the best long term strategy.

      KG
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      • Profile picture of the author Lucky500
        Originally Posted by kwameg View Post

        Sometimes, it depends on your definition of a newbie, I work in IT and people are always telling me how computer illiterate they are, of course when you spend a little time with them or try to explain things to them on that level, you find that they know a lot more than they think they do or might admit.

        Most of the time, they are just trying not too look stupid. Often when you buy instructional materials, the first few chapters ALWAYS cover things that you know, and take for granted, so sometime people feel slight and think they are not getting their money worth.

        The majority of the WSOs I have purchased have had some value to re-enforce or elaborate on something I already knew and some have actaully provide some new information.

        In most case, you have to recognize, that there are some new variations of old techniques, but for the most part, learning and implementing the basics and then innovating on the basics is the best long term strategy.

        KG
        Thanks KG, I am really on the beginning stages, if you work in IT you have a very solid knowledge, but is understandable if you stumble upon something that you knew but haven't practice before.

        I have a good knowledge about computers, but even to open a blog on WP is tough because of the HTML and do it yourself stuff. But I rather learn the process than buying a pre-package site like site build it! but the Idea to open a site, and rewriting posts to spin on article submission sites and getting useful backlings...it sounds like another full time to me. Don't get me wrong I know I will have to work hard to make a meaningful income from home, but I think there must be a good product out there to help you with the automation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc43
    Lucky.

    I second 2 the WAR ROOM is the best effective $37 investment you will make this year in your IM career


    I wish you the best
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    If you're looking for a WSO to tell you how to make money - you need to step back and think about things.

    YOU are the only person who knows your skills, experiences and resources.

    Once YOU decide how you'd like to make money, there will be plenty of WSOs (and other places to get products) that will help you be more effective and efficient in reaching your goal.

    But until you make that determination, no WSO is going to be the right answer.

    It's like sending a kid into a sports shop the day before they get told what sports they'll be playing - they like everything, but have no idea what is right to buy and what will be a waste.

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  • Profile picture of the author Adaptive
    And a note for the moderators, it would be very nice to have section for newbies on the forum
    I second that idea. What if the topmost forum in the list was "Newbies, start here! Introduce yourself and ask basic questions. Get advice about sorting through the information overload and making your plans."

    Regards,
    Allen
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