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I put up a blog and article along with a few book marks for each. My blog hasn't even gotten to the first 30 pages of my niche but my article made it to the 4th and even my book marks are up on page 6 and 8. Wth?

I'm still not yet sure how to seo with wordpress. So far my blog has 8 or 9 pages, along with 2 post. My first post page is the site that I'm getting traffic to. I'm still not sure how to work this thing, should I be putting more posts or pages. So far I made a page for each post (instead of putting up a blog post) then I copy pasted all my pages to my only post. I'm starting to think the reason my blog is not ranked is because it only hase one (really long) post, though I thought pages would get me up the seo.

Anyone ever seo'd a wordpress blg? or is just weaker than any other site?
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  • Profile picture of the author YiKeS
    Originally Posted by Hililuud View Post

    I put up a blog and article along with a few book marks for each. My blog hasn't even gotten to the first 30 pages of my niche but my article made it to the 4th and even my book marks are up on page 6 and 8. Wth?

    I'm still not yet sure how to seo with wordpress. So far my blog has 8 or 9 pages, along with 2 post. My first post page is the site that I'm getting traffic to. I'm still not sure how to work this thing, should I be putting more posts or pages. So far I made a page for each post (instead of putting up a blog post) then I copy pasted all my pages to my only post. I'm starting to think the reason my blog is not ranked is because it only hase one (really long) post, though I thought pages would get me up the seo.

    Anyone ever seo'd a wordpress blg? or is just weaker than any other site?

    Welcome to "Real Life" online mate ..

    Just how long has your blog been up?


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  • Profile picture of the author Hililuud
    ONly about a week, but my articles have been up even less than that and reached the 4th page.
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    • Profile picture of the author LynnM
      It can take months to get ranked - you just need to keep working on your blog. In the meantime, get the Wordpress plug in called the All in One SEO pack, that will help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marcus Paul
    IMO, the problem is not WP. The power of a blog as your site is the ability to publish your articles as posts and time them when you want them published.

    For the comments below I am assuming you are self-hosting one, not using wordpress.com. I am assuming you also picked a good keyword.

    1 - Use pages for Contact, Privacy Policy, About Me, FAQ, and a storefront if you have one. (bolded ones are required for Google)

    2 - Your articles should be posts, not pages. Time their publishing to appear natural. Add one or two a week.

    3 - Make sure you are using a custom permalink structure (under "settings" click "permalinks") and set it to use /%postname%/

    4 - Make sure you have SEO All in One Pack installed and set how you want the title bar to appear for each post and page.

    5 - Use your keyword in your page/post title, article title, and keyword fields. Make sure your article title is in an H1 tag so Google knows its important.


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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    there is (almost) no SEO needed for WP if you have the few needed plugins, like AiOS or Platinum Seo. Rather focus on a consistency of good, unique content.

    Really, the times of heavy on-site SEO tweaking as was needed 5 year ago are long over.

    That being said, there are and there might still be some methods (keyword: siloing...etc..etc..)...but overall you're off best just put good content on there and dont worry about other things too much.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hililuud
    Alright So what are all the ways you can build links.

    I got some from articles, feeds (i think), social bookmarking. Are those the only ways?

    I will put in the SEO plug in I hope it doesn't cost anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexei_aus
    its all about backlinks mate. i am actually ranking on the first page in google for "wordpress seo expert"

    try using social poster software to get you bookmarked and listed in social networks automatically
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  • Profile picture of the author Logan_5
    Tags and link-backs are effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author danemorgan
    That's exactly what you should be expecting. The article directories have been around a whaile, puplishing fresh content on a regular basis and at a fast clip. Your blog has been around a week and has no authority yet.

    The real power of WordPress is that your articles will continue to rank long after any given article on an article directory has slid off the page.
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  • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
    Ok, wait a minute... your articles and bookmarks are ranking well, and there's a problem?

    Sure, it would be nice to have your blog rank higher but if ANYTHING you do that points back to your blog is ranking higher, then keep doing THAT and it will give your site more authority so that it will continue to rise in the rankings.

    Some here have said that SEO isn't such an issue any more if you have the appropriate plug-ins, however, you could either have too MUCH keyword density, or your keywords could be TOO WIDE. I can't say from here.

    However, when you get a chance, go to HitTail - Keyword Tool for Long Tail Marketing Strategy and install their code. This will help you figure out if you are getting any longtail keyword traffic from the search engines. Then you can begin tailoring your site more towards those longtail keywords and virtually own those highly targeted niches.

    Good luck,
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    • Profile picture of the author danemorgan
      Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

      Ok, wait a minute... your articles and bookmarks are ranking well, and there's a problem?

      Sure, it would be nice to have your blog rank higher but if ANYTHING you do that points back to your blog is ranking higher, then keep doing THAT and it will give your site more authority so that it will continue to rise in the rankings.
      Excellent point. I don't care what is ranking where so much as long as whatever is ranking leads to where I want it to lead, esp. in the beginning.

      Later on, it's nice when you see your blog's version of an article start out above the Article Directory version, but ultimately as long as they are all driving the traffic to where you want it, rock on.
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      • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
        Originally Posted by danemorgan View Post

        Excellent point. I don't care what is ranking where so much as long as whatever is ranking leads to where I want it to lead, esp. in the beginning.

        Later on, it's nice when you see your blog's version of an article start out above the Article Directory version, but ultimately as long as they are all driving the traffic to where you want it, rock on.
        Exactly... after reading the o.p., I started wondering if I was missing something by not understanding why the o.p. was upset.

        Anyways, next thing is he should throw his bookmark feeds into Feedage and watch the magic. You ever done that?

        Eric
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  • Profile picture of the author Hililuud
    Alright so I downloaded wordpress seo plugin, but I'm not sure how to implement it in my blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author koolwarrior
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    1 week?

    OK. get the all-in-one SEO plugin for your WP blog

    then start link building
    then start pinging technorati.com/ping and blogsearch.google.com
    then start submitting your blog to as many blog/rss directories as you humanly can (for more backlinks and traffic)
    then, start twittering every time you post a blog

    use widgetbox (google it) and create a widget for your blog using your blog's RSS feed
    encourage other people to post it on their websites, facebook profiles, myspace pages, etc. helps add the backlinks

    that's about all you really can do. the biggest thing you is just start slapping your blog's URL wherever you comment, wherever you post, and pretty much wherever you go.

    I don't know of one place that I've been to on the internet where I don't have my URL somewhere somehow.
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  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    Wordpress doesn't suck. Google loves it. Build a few links every day for 6 months and see if you'll see results. Try blog commenting on dofollow blogs. I've found that to be a very quick and easy way to build links. Just be sure you leave good comments so they don't get deleted. Make some of your articles into slide shows and use tubemogel to get them out to a bunch of video sites.. That works well too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hililuud
    Alright so I downloaded wordpress seo plugin, but I'm not sure how to implement it in my blog.
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    • Originally Posted by Hililuud View Post

      Alright so I downloaded wordpress seo plugin, but I'm not sure how to implement it in my blog.
      I think I see what the problem is, given the Subject line of this thread: you know just enough about this stuff to be dangerous!

      Don't worry, I was there once myself. Keep working and learning.

      Also, I'd be careful about taking swipes at things that you don't really understand. Saying that Wordpress sucks just because you didn't get instant gratification does not reflect well upon you.
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  • Profile picture of the author AliciaSpringer
    You'll need to follow the instructions, but once you activated the plugin, you can add unique titles, descriptions to each post you make. Wordpress is great, but it's only as good as how you implement it, so you'll need to utilize all the available plugins, have your posts optimized, and build backlinks to your main site and inside pages to see results.
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    • Profile picture of the author Aristocratic
      Wordpress is AWESOME. Just make a few tweaks on the backend and add a few plugins. As already suggested, the Platinum SEO is a good plugin to use. It will add meta descriptions to each page based off the post's tags, allow you add keywords and and a description to your main page, as well as configure a setup to your liking. But you have to expect that the articles that you specifically set out to promote and bookmark are going to rank higher than a site you are letting rise naturally I would imagine.
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  • Profile picture of the author reynald2790
    I do believe what other is saying. you must be able to put up more pages on your blog or a post. It will take months to get ranked in search engine. I suggest you to make a particular post everyday to make your blog reached in ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
    wordpress sucks??? What next? 'HTML sucks???'

    get some backlink juice and see how it takes off. Google actually LOVES wordpress sites!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
    Originally Posted by Hililuud View Post

    So far I made a page for each post (instead of putting up a blog post) then I copy pasted all my pages to my only post.
    I'd have thought that was your biggest problem (not just for SEO - your site navigation must be a nightmare). Why aren't you just posting in the conventional fashion? Each post is food for hungry search engines, and they like to eat little and often like the rest of us. If you keep stuffing all your pages into one post (I can't think why), you'll give Google belly ache
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohsin Rasool
    Oh no it is not Wordpress Which Sucks :-)

    You just need to take few steps to optimize your wordpress blog for SEO.
    Like install and activate some SEO plugins already suggested above...

    Also you may need to fix your wordpress theme to show only excerpts
    at homepage and let the post pages get whole unique content accessible
    only from one url.

    Also While you are posting you also need to make sure you put your right
    keywords in titles and post slugs... Also please clean up the post slugs and
    remove all unnecessary words from the Post Slugs..
    (I just today made post at my blog regarding this issue:
    Post Slugs - Post Urls Keep Them Short | Wordpress Blog by PressGold
    )

    Also You need to get backlinks to your blog and posts... After you have made the post,
    make sure you ping your blog from some site like Blog and ping | Pingoat
    and also social bookmark your posts and oh yeah add link to your newly posted post
    in your forum Sig file to get this indexed asap...

    It is going to take some time when you see the result of your efforts..
    so be consistent...

    Wish you best,
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  • Profile picture of the author t-wins
    Originally Posted by Hililuud View Post

    I put up a blog and article along with a few book marks for each. My blog hasn't even gotten to the first 30 pages of my niche but my article made it to the 4th and even my book marks are up on page 6 and 8. Wth?
    It all depends on the competition. If there are a lot of similar articles, yours may not rank well given it hasn't been around for long.

    WordPress has a lot of SEO built in, but you need to tinker with it to find out how to make the most out of it. Word Press isn't the easist the program to set up though. SEO takes even more time and patience.
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    You know me, I'm lazy. I just use Big Mikes RSSBot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam101
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    Wordpress is the best SEO software that you can ever get, provided you know how to use it. Please search for "Wordpress SEO" and you will find several places where you will learn the in and out of it (This is no place for coaching on all the little things that you need to do). Having said that here's a small checklist
    a) Your posts should have a title that has your keyword.
    b) Your permalink structure should be correct
    c) You must associate the correct tags with each post. The post much contain these tags (you can say that tags are just like keywords)
    d) Enable the Wordpress SEO plugin
    e) Have the Akismet plugin to prevent spammy comments
    f) Post at least twice per week, unique posts that revolve around your theme (keyword list)
    g) Use free tools like Fast Blog finder to find similar blogs and post your comments on them that link back to your wordpress blog
    h) Use a Statcounter plugin to monitor the visitors.
    i) Use pinging plugins to ping your blog posts to the search engines
    j) Submit your blog to a few good blog directories
    h) enable your RSS feed and connect it via feedburner
    After you do all of this you will have to wait at least a few weeks to see any results. Hope it helps you
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  • Profile picture of the author Hililuud
    Well I did a search on similar blogs, "my keyword" blog and to my disbelief my blog was in 4th place!!! after only a few days...however I wanted to rank for my keyword.

    This seo stuff is starting to look like rocket science...thanks to all who have helped.

    I still don't know how to put the seo plug in , into my blog, where I downloaded it it didn't have instructions.
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    • Originally Posted by Hililuud View Post

      Well I did a search on similar blogs, "my keyword" blog and to my disbelief my blog was in 4th place!!! after only a few days...however I wanted to rank for my keyword.

      This seo stuff is starting to look like rocket science...
      No, this is rocket science:

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    • Profile picture of the author miked
      Originally Posted by Hililuud View Post

      This seo stuff is starting to look like rocket science...thanks to all who have helped.

      I still don't know how to put the seo plug in , into my blog, where I downloaded it it didn't have instructions.
      And I saw another thread about WordPress versus Blogger.

      Unlike Blogger, WordPress gives you control. But with control comes responsibility. And effort. And work.

      I can now set up a WordPress blog in a very short time. And have several plugins installed and operating. And install a great theme. And make a few tweaks to the css file and theme php pages...all in a short time.

      But ask me how many WordPress blogs or WordPress CMS themes have I installed? How many hours did I labor trying to get Aweber lightbox to work over a flash slideshow? lots and lots....

      You have to pay your dues.

      There is no free lunch.

      A business, a real business, is going to cost you something. Money, or time, and both.

      Yes, SEO is rocket science. But the great thing is, on this forum, you get a world class education about on-line marketing - for free!

      So spend the time reading and asking questions in this forum. There are a lot of great people here willing to help. For example, you may not know it, but Vince Runza is a bonifide stealth guru, with real, practical information. He doesn't have a groupie following, but he walks the talk. And he is really interested in helping other marketers succeed. There are many more like Vince on this forum. (Well, not exactly like Vince...check out LocalBizBuilders and see what he is up to).

      Post your specific WordPress SEO issue here and we will see if we can help you out.

      Good luck. You can do this.

      -Mike D.

      P.S. WordPress is an awesome website building platform...if you work it...and really know what you want to do.
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    Wordpress Sucks!-I'm still not yet sure how to seo with wordpress.??????????????
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  • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
    WordPress wasn't designed to do well with all the content put on pages and then into one mammoth blog post.

    It's bound to suck if you take it's teeth out.
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