why 99% of internet marketers fail...

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hi guys, have been around the internet marketing world for quite a while and i still consider myself as a newbie...

recently i just bought a new product that really struck me real deep.

like probably most people (especially newbies like me) we fail in the internet marketing world for a very specific reason.

I found out that most of us are just simply prospects. I myself never understood the difference between a marketer and a buyer. I was like most people, who go around buying different products on my niche and always fail to take actions.

So as i have learned in order for you to make profit online you should start creating value, from there on, you will attract people of same interest towards you...

Now i know its a very naive way of thinking that everything will just fall right into place but as long as you have a simple guideline to follow you will never get side track.

This is probably the most simplest rundown on how you can build your business from ground up.

1. Find a Niche you are passionate about
2. Research, research, research
3. Start a blog/website and set up your house.
4. Create value
5. Go where the traffic is
6. Control the traffic and own them.

In my opinion this is probably the most simplest steps you can take to starting your internet business life...

Now when i say value I didn't specifically say that you need to create your product. You can also apply this steps if you prefer to be an affiliate marketer.

Just give free information that people will come to you and come back for you and you will see that you will grow your traffic in no time...

So what do you guys think ?

I would like to hear some thoughts from everyone and hope to hear some tips and advices as well...

big hugs to all of you...
#99% #fail #internet #marketers
  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I like the part about controlling the traffic and "owning" them. I had to reread your post and I don't even think I noticed that first time around. Its a solid tip.

    In fact, its exactly what I do.

    Lots of people will make a blog, and try selling right on the blog. Then they just send people to the blog (who are barely interested in the first place). To me, thats doing things backwards. Before people even get to your blog, they should be sold imo. Like if you're selling on youtube, you want people basically begging for more information. I wish more people had seen the Neil Strauss launch, but that was a huge eye opener for me years ago. Frank Kern had helped Neil deliver all these innovative and creative new seduction tactics, that people hadn't heard before. The thing is, they DID already exist. They were just never delivered in a webinar before. Only in Neils book.

    Neils book was outstanding. So Frank simply made a webinar, that organized the content in his book into real world scenarios. Then people started begging for more content... and the ONLY NATURAL THING TO DO was SELL it to them for an outrageous fee. But if you want to talk about "owning" traffic, thats how you do it. A percent of that traffic was ALREADY SOLD before they even saw the offer. All they had to do was show it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Donn Maala
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      I like the part about controlling the traffic and "owning" them. I had to reread your post and I don't even think I noticed that first time around. Its a solid tip.

      In fact, its exactly what I do.

      Lots of people will make a blog, and try selling right on the blog. Then they just send people to the blog (who are barely interested in the first place). To me, thats doing things backwards. Before people even get to your blog, they should be sold imo. Like if you're selling on youtube, you want people basically begging for more information. I wish more people had seen the Neil Strauss launch, but that was a huge eye opener for me years ago. Frank Kern had helped Neil deliver all these innovative and creative new seduction tactics, that people hadn't heard before. The thing is, they DID already exist. They were just never delivered in a webinar before. Only in Neils book.

      Neils book was outstanding. So Frank simply made a webinar, that organized the content in his book into real world scenarios. Then people started begging for more content... and the ONLY NATURAL THING TO DO was SELL it to them for an outrageous fee. But if you want to talk about "owning" traffic, thats how you do it. A percent of that traffic was ALREADY SOLD before they even saw the offer. All they had to do was show it.
      Yes I do agree with you, the problem with most people is they sell too quickly when they write their blog. But most people fail to understand with regards to blog is, its the tool where marketers can use to get into the minds of their audience. Just like what you said about youtube video. You can use it the same way as a blog where you share contents, create events and even create the needs for your readers to be sold. From there you can use the gathered info to make the product they need or they ask for.

      From there you can understand the mindset and the purpose of the marketer itself. They only wanted to earn money. Most people forget the most important part where they should create value, meaning they should start to find the problem of their costumers then find solutions to it..

      Also creating events on the blog itself will trigger people to look forward for the next event thats going to happen, probably kinda like a tv series show...
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    I heard some where that over 70% of the people who join what ever you are selling will never take action on what they learn. People buy, buy, and buy some more products on how to make money online but never take any action. That is SAD.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      I heard some where that over 70% of the people who join what ever you are selling will never take action on what they learn.
      I heard 70% of statistics are made up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Donn Maala
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      I heard some where that over 70% of the people who join what ever you are selling will never take action on what they learn. People buy, buy, and buy some more products on how to make money online but never take any action. That is SAD.
      I believe its what most people fail to do, there are sooo many distractions along the way that people tend to jump from one product to another... I used to be the same until I learn to stop myself and have a change of heart.

      I believe that there are systems that most people sell on the net that actually works, just like weight loss systems... People just need to stay on that system until they make it work for them... Or else they will just keep on looking for new systems that they may think thats compatible with them...
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I'm pretty sure that's actually a relatively complicated model compared to much simpler ones that you could choose.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Lee
    Originally Posted by Donn Maala View Post


    1. Find a Niche you are passionate about
    2. Research, research, research
    3. Start a blog/website and set up your house.
    4. Create value
    5. Go where the traffic is
    6. Control the traffic and own them.
    I have a few thoughts for you. First, you have grasped some huge concepts that many marketers miss. You have recognized the value in the simplicity.

    Now, recognize that the niche that you choose must be ones that have a way to monetize them. Is the niche large enough to support your efforts, or is it so obscure that you won't profit? Are there problems in that niche that need solving? Is your niche a niche of buyers or freebie seekers? You must have desperate buyers to have success.

    When you start your blog and set up your house, make sure that you do it on your own real estate. Meaning your own domain name and pay for a hosting provider. Nothing worse than tons of hard work only to have someone else shut down your site.

    Best
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    • Profile picture of the author Donn Maala
      Originally Posted by George Lee View Post

      I have a few thoughts for you. First, you have grasped some huge concepts that many marketers miss. You have recognized the value in the simplicity.

      Now, recognize that the niche that you choose must be ones that have a way to monetize them. Is the niche large enough to support your efforts, or is it so obscure that you won't profit? Are there problems in that niche that need solving? Is your niche a niche of buyers or freebie seekers? You must have desperate buyers to have success.

      When you start your blog and set up your house, make sure that you do it on your own real estate. Meaning your own domain name and pay for a hosting provider. Nothing worse than tons of hard work only to have someone else shut down your site.

      Best
      Thank you for your input George, yes I do agree with you... I think what people should look for when they are starting an online business is... Is the Niche Profitable, Practical and can you make a proof out of it ?

      Yes you do want a healthy competition in the niche you want to target in. Its a good sign that there are profits from it.

      The next step is will it be practical for you ? Can you do it ? are you passionate about that particular niche ? cause if you answer no in one of them probably you might have a hard time... People dont want to end up like a chubby guy endorsing a diet product on the market right ?

      and lastly can you make proof out of it ? I believe this is probably the most profit pulling factor for a marketer.. People are not stupid and they want results and proof from the stuffs they want to purchase...

      I believe that its all about getting into the minds of your buyers and connecting with them and breaking the first wall of trust for them to put out their credit cards in front of you...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jarrod
    I tried the 6 basic steps you outlined (and other such variations) and never made a dime. I know others have, but I like most others didn't.

    Then I decided instead to learn an online service (like social media marketing, SEO, PPC, Mobile, whatever) and make money providing said service to local offline businesses.

    Found this route much more profitable, not to mention fulfilling as I am providing a valuable needed service for others.

    But it does require getting off your duff and actually talking and meeting with business people in the real world.
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    • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
      Originally Posted by Jedi Jarrod View Post

      But it does require getting off your duff and actually talking and meeting with business people in the real world.
      That is the problem for most people right there. If you are not a people person, you will FAIL MISERABLY!! On the other hand, if you write well and deliver useful information, your words will do the selling for you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

        That is the problem for most people right there. If you are not a people person, you will FAIL MISERABLY!! .
        That's BS.

        You don't have to be a people person to run a business like that. There are 100 ways you can make what you do NOT require you to even deal with people yourself.

        That's a lame excuse for people who are too narrow-minded to even think outside the box to use so that they can say why they're not doing it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jarrod
          Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

          That's BS.

          You don't have to be a people person to run a business like that. There are 100 ways you can make what you do NOT require you to even deal with people yourself.

          That's a lame excuse for people who are too narrow-minded to even think outside the box to use so that they can say why they're not doing it.
          2 things:

          1-I'm not denying that there are ways to make $ online without human contact. But for me those never worked, and that seems to be the case for many.

          2-I'm actually an extreme introvert and totally not a "people person". But I got a wife and three kids I love to death, and sometimes I have to get out of my shell and be a people person to make some money to support them.

          Point being even if you are not a people person, you can still practice and acquire skills necessarily to succeed in working with others offline providing them online services.
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          • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
            Originally Posted by Jedi Jarrod View Post

            2 things:

            1-I'm not denying that there are ways to make $ online without human contact. But for me those never worked, and that seems to be the case for many.

            2-I'm actually an extreme introvert and totally not a "people person". But I got a wife and three kids I love to death, and sometimes I have to get out of my shell and be a people person to make some money to support them.

            Point being even if you are not a people person, you can still practice and acquire skills necessarily to succeed in working with others offline providing them online services.
            Amen to that.

            If you have a wife and kids then you ARE a people person
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        • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
          Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

          That's BS.

          You don't have to be a people person to run a business like that. There are 100 ways you can make what you do NOT require you to even deal with people yourself.

          That's a lame excuse for people who are too narrow-minded to even think outside the box to use so that they can say why they're not doing it.
          That's an interesting response from you Andy. To answer your criticisms, I reject your assertion that I am narrow minded. I spent several months working on acquiring clients through various means. Here are some methods I tried:

          1) Cold calling. Actually "warm calling". I used an autodialing service (I think it was CallFire) and called 2,000 businesses in my area. The dialer would hand a prospect off to me if interested. I did this for a few weeks. It was a grueling experience and I was just not very good at closing the deal. I also know that this works because my friend Mark H. on this forum is quite successful at it. Just did not work for me.

          2) Visiting local businesses. I put on a smart outfit (not suit, did not want to appear too stuffy) and visited several hundred offices in my area. That took a few weeks. I had a presentation, a nice card and information packet. I followed up and worked the leads. Big disappointment.

          3) Tried food businesses and offering free SMS packages. This one looked promising. So, worked up a flyer and free introductory period. This actually brought sales for several restaurants. Converted one or two, but the time/success ratio was very low.

          4) Postcards. Again, big mailing, $1,000 spent, lots of visits to offer, could not close enough to make it work. Now here's another method that I know works. It did not work for me, unfortunately.

          **edit - almost forgot**

          5) Free site makeovers. Took business' sites and fixed them up. Emailed/phoned them so they could look. Super failure. Time drain in the extreme.

          6) Video critique of small business sites. Critique, then emailed link to video. Followed up with phone call. I thought this one would surely work. Nope, could not close the deal, even over email without live contact.

          These are just a few methods I tried. I am not narrow minded at all, in fact I tried another 5-6 methods because I wanted this to work.

          In the meantime, while I was being massacred offline, my online activities brought me great returns for the time invested.

          I know that this works for people. It did not work for me. And if you tell me that a person can build a successful business selling services to businesspeople without interacting with them and without the ability to close deals, then I will call BS on that.
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          • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
            Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

            That's an interesting response from you Andy. To answer your criticisms, I reject your assertion that I am narrow minded.
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            I never said you were narrow minded.

            I don't know you so I can't possibly make such a determination.

            My point was that I believe ANYONE can make money if they have IM skills and the ability to provide services - no matter what their "people skills" are like.
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          • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
            Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

            That's an interesting response from you Andy. To answer your criticisms, I reject your assertion that I am narrow minded. I spent several months working on acquiring clients through various means. Here are some methods I tried:

            1) Cold calling. Actually "warm calling". I used an autodialing service (I think it was CallFire) and called 2,000 businesses in my area. The dialer would hand a prospect off to me if interested. I did this for a few weeks. It was a grueling experience and I was just not very good at closing the deal. I also know that this works because my friend Mark H. on this forum is quite successful at it. Just did not work for me.

            2) Visiting local businesses. I put on a smart outfit (not suit, did not want to appear too stuffy) and visited several hundred offices in my area. That took a few weeks. I had a presentation, a nice card and information packet. I followed up and worked the leads. Big disappointment.

            3) Tried food businesses and offering free SMS packages. This one looked promising. So, worked up a flyer and free introductory period. This actually brought sales for several restaurants. Converted one or two, but the time/success ratio was very low.

            4) Postcards. Again, big mailing, $1,000 spent, lots of visits to offer, could not close enough to make it work. Now here's another method that I know works. It did not work for me, unfortunately.

            **edit - almost forgot**

            5) Free site makeovers. Took business' sites and fixed them up. Emailed/phoned them so they could look. Super failure. Time drain in the extreme.

            6) Video critique of small business sites. Critique, then emailed link to video. Followed up with phone call. I thought this one would surely work. Nope, could not close the deal, even over email without live contact.

            These are just a few methods I tried. I am not narrow minded at all, in fact I tried another 5-6 methods because I wanted this to work.

            In the meantime, while I was being massacred offline, my online activities brought me great returns for the time invested.

            I know that this works for people. It did not work for me. And if you tell me that a person can build a successful business selling services to businesspeople without interacting with them and without the ability to close deals, then I will call BS on that.
            I just read this and came to the conclusion, that you are in fact "narrow minded". I'm not trying to offend you, but lets be real. You don't try 1 method 1 time, fail, then say "it doesn't work for me". Or "it may work for other people, but its not my thing".

            With that mindset, you are guaranteed to fail at anything you do.

            If I'm offending you, I apologize. That is not the goal. But lets be real, ANYONE can make cold calling work. You said its not for "certain people". You're right. If you don't have the sense to not jump into something so quickly, and do your research first, its not for you. If you can't test and develop a script or offer, consistently, untill it works, then MARKETING in itself doesn't seem to be for you.

            Thats what marketing is ALL ABOUT. And you seem to be missing that 1 very important piece of information. Its a science. It involves testing and development. It involves lots of prepwork. You don't just jump into 10 random things, with no real tools or skills, then assume "its not for me". I don't care if you're selling services in person, on a website, selling a product offline/online, it doesn't matter. Marketing is all about being laser focused on 1 thing. You test and develop that 1 thing till its successful.

            I mean comeon guy. I'm honestly not trying to offend you. But you are headed on an ugly track.
            What are your plans for the future? Do you plan on becoming a doctor a lawyer a fitness trainer, a chef a carpet cleaner... then giving up 1 after another because you never took time to master the craft?

            -Red
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            • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
              Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

              I just read this and came to the conclusion, that you are in fact "narrow minded". I'm not trying to offend you, but lets be real. You don't try 1 method 1 time, fail, then say "it doesn't work for me". Or "it may work for other people, but its not my thing".

              With that mindset, you are guaranteed to fail at anything you do.

              If I'm offending you, I apologize. That is not the goal. But lets be real, ANYONE can make cold calling work. You said its not for "certain people". You're right. If you don't have the sense to not jump into something so quickly, and do your research first, its not for you. If you can't test and develop a script or offer, consistently, untill it works, then MARKETING in itself doesn't seem to be for you.

              Thats what marketing is ALL ABOUT. And you seem to be missing that 1 very important piece of information. Its a science. It involves testing and development. It involves lots of prepwork. You don't just jump into 10 random things, with no real tools or skills, then assume "its not for me". I don't care if you're selling services in person, on a website, selling a product offline/online, it doesn't matter. Marketing is all about being laser focused on 1 thing. You test and develop that 1 thing till its successful.

              I mean comeon guy. I'm honestly not trying to offend you. But you are headed on an ugly track.
              What are your plans for the future? Do you plan on becoming a doctor a lawyer a fitness trainer, a chef a carpet cleaner... then giving up 1 after another because you never took time to master the craft?

              -Red
              Hello Red, I am not offended. I tried several offline methods for 6 months. I am very successful online. There is no ugly track for me as I have found my way, my path. This all started by my trying to point out that business people in the offline world want to speak to a real person, contact, see, feel, touch so to speak. I was also pointing out that in the face to face contact, the negotiation and closing the deal, asking for the sale, etc., that's where I fall down. That's it.

              SOOOOO, going back to what I was saying before, in the same time that this was going on, I made over $30K in one month online. My offline, $1,500.

              For me, I learned a bit about myself and the PATH that I want to take in IM I've already succeeded. I am already doing well. And, I also said that offline methods DO WORK for other people. They did not work so well for me.

              ..........somewhere out there, there's a dead horse that needs flogging.........
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              • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
                Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

                Hello Red, I am not offended. I tried several offline methods for 6 months. I am very successful online. There is no ugly track for me as I have found my way, my path. This all started by my trying to point out that business people in the offline world want to speak to a real person, contact, see, feel, touch so to speak. I was also pointing out that in the face to face contact, the negotiation and closing the deal, asking for the sale, etc., that's where I fall down. That's it.

                SOOOOO, going back to what I was saying before, in the same time that this was going on, I made over $30K in one month online. My offline, $1,500.

                For me, I learned a bit about myself and the PATH that I want to take in IM I've already succeeded. I am already doing well. And, I also said that offline methods DO WORK for other people. They did not work so well for me.

                ..........somewhere out there, there's a dead horse that needs flogging.........
                LOL @ the horse comment. I'm happy for you then. I was under the impression you had tried a bunch of things, failed, and were starting to think nothing would work. As long as you found something that works for you, then theres nothing to really argue over afaic.

                I tend to believe that most people succeed at what their most passionate about. So maybe offline just wasn't your thing. But I do believe most people can succeed at anything AS LONG as they want to and are fully willing. Just seems you found something you were more passionate about/better at doing. So good for you!

                -Red
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      • Profile picture of the author Botman
        You know what, it's all good to put up a list of what people need to do to succeed. Just that knowing the road is different from walking the road. Creating something of value doesn't help you if you can't convert that value into sales.

        99% of internet marketers fail because they don't make sales. The 1% that succeed are often those who understand the psychology of selling.
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        • Profile picture of the author Donn Maala
          Originally Posted by Botman View Post

          You know what, it's all good to put up a list of what people need to do to succeed. Just that knowing the road is different from walking the road. Creating something of value doesn't help you if you can't convert that value into sales.

          99% of internet marketers fail because they don't make sales. The 1% that succeed are often those who understand the psychology of selling.
          Yes I truly agree, for us marketers its about selling a product. But it will never be as simple as putting it down in front of there faces and expecting them to buy. Although this is just an over view of the path that I saw for myself, there are a lot of important details to be discussed...

          First of all for us marketers selling is an art, its about getting into the minds of our audiences and costumers... People who become successful on this business knows how to get inside the mind of their potential costumers.. and there are alot and dozen ways to go them. One of them probably is through blogging, you see if you can create an event or a trigger to make people talk to you. Its your very first step on knowing what that person is already thinking, and by addressing into that you are able to tap in to their minds and find out about their needs and their worries... If you can grasp those certain information you can easily find your way in selling yourself into them...

          I believe that successful marketers dont sell their products, but they sell themselves to the people itself. Thats the reason why its easier for their costumers to take out their cards and pay them....
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Jedi Jarrod View Post

      But it does require getting off your duff and actually talking and meeting with business people in the real world.
      And there again, you hit it on the head.

      99% of people are not willing to do this.

      Say no more....
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    • Profile picture of the author Donn Maala
      Originally Posted by Jedi Jarrod View Post

      I tried the 6 basic steps you outlined (and other such variations) and never made a dime. I know others have, but I like most others didn't.

      Then I decided instead to learn an online service (like social media marketing, SEO, PPC, Mobile, whatever) and make money providing said service to local offline businesses.

      Found this route much more profitable, not to mention fulfilling as I am providing a valuable needed service for others.

      But it does require getting off your duff and actually talking and meeting with business people in the real world.
      Yes I do agree with you on this, not everyone will be the marketer cause this is a community itself. We all nees SEO, PPC or other scientist out there to build and provide services for others... Its like a musical play with only singers as the whole cast... When those people in the background (directors, tech people etc) plays the most important roles...

      I salute you for finding your right path, its not easy for a person to find the right path in this vast world of internet marketing...
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    I wonder where people pull these numbers from, or how they get every internet marketer to participate. Everyone who posts an X% will fail number is certainly a better researcher than I, that's for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    If you find early success with the niche that you tried at
    first, success may come easy with this model. The real
    difficulty comes when you followed all the "right" steps
    and still don't make any money.

    So perhaps your #2 step should be #1--RESEARCH.
    Simply because you are passionate about a niche
    does not mean that you'll make money in that niche.
    Sometimes finding the right niche is the key to
    winning the game.

    -Ray Edwards
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    • Profile picture of the author Donn Maala
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      If you find early success with the niche that you tried at
      first, success may come easy with this model. The real
      difficulty comes when you followed all the "right" steps
      and still don't make any money.

      So perhaps your #2 step should be #1--RESEARCH.
      Simply because you are passionate about a niche
      does not mean that you'll make money in that niche.
      Sometimes finding the right niche is the key to
      winning the game.

      -Ray Edwards
      Thank you Ray, I guess the reason why i put 1 as my first number is because that most people dont know where to even start their journey. So its probably advisable to start on the niche you are passionate about. Of course, not because you are passionate about it means youll be successful around it... There are a lot of variables that needs to be included to finding the right niche.

      Just like i mention on an above comment, you probably need to find out if a niche is profitable, practical for you and you can create proof out of it.

      I mean there will probably be no hope for a chubby guy to sell diet products if he cant show results himself...
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  • Profile picture of the author garveyonweb
    Originally Posted by Donn Maala View Post

    1. Find a Niche you are passionate about
    2. Research, research, research
    3. Start a blog/website and set up your house.
    4. Create value
    5. Go where the traffic is
    6. Control the traffic and own them.

    In my opinion this is probably the most simplest steps you can take to starting your internet business life...

    So what do you guys think ?
    Few words, massive concepts. When you boil it down to this, it sounds just the recipe to procrastinate over forever.

    Excellent philosophy, but I don't think I could take action, or focus on this plan.
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    • Profile picture of the author Donn Maala
      Originally Posted by garveyonweb View Post

      Few words, massive concepts. When you boil it down to this, it sounds just the recipe to procrastinate over forever.

      Excellent philosophy, but I don't think I could take action, or focus on this plan.
      Yes i do agree that this might be a really loooooong road to take and Im not saying that this is the only way to be successful online...

      I honestly believe that there are a thousand ways to set up a business and make money online...

      If you found what works for you then stick to it, i believe thats the best choice we all have...
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  • Profile picture of the author CrisisCore08
    All the products that you buy are great,they worth the money and they are real and honest [hopefuly] although nobody knows how SE works,what the products do are making you do everything and asuming that at least a few of the things,some one the backlinks,some of the keywords will catch on and usually they do.
    just buy 1 product and stay with it
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    • Profile picture of the author Donn Maala
      Originally Posted by CrisisCore08 View Post

      All the products that you buy are great,they worth the money and they are real and honest [hopefuly] although nobody knows how SE works,what the products do are making you do everything and asuming that at least a few of the things,some one the backlinks,some of the keywords will catch on and usually they do.
      just buy 1 product and stay with it

      YES I do agree, find a system you see fit that you can do and stick with it... The problem is most people make its tooo complicated for themselves and never find time to finish what they started... Most of them ending up quitting along the way...
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    That model is dead on. The people that actually stick to this model for months to years even if they are not profiting will eventually be the success stories. 99% of internet marketers who do not succeed QUIT before they succeed! I don't know if the percentage is that high but it is high. Good first post.
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    • Profile picture of the author Donn Maala
      Originally Posted by jamesrich1 View Post

      That model is dead on. The people that actually stick to this model for months to years even if they are not profiting will eventually be the success stories. 99% of internet marketers who do not succeed QUIT before they succeed! I don't know if the percentage is that high but it is high. Good first post.
      Thank you very much... I hope to squeeze more debates on this matter in my post and learn from a lof of other peoples experiences...
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  • Profile picture of the author mickyl
    I've seen here on the forum so many posts that says: simply do 1, 2, 3 and 4, 5, be persistent and you'll probably succeed. The problem is that it's usually not that simple. Let's say that you are choosing a very very very competitive niche and try, for the first time in your life to rank at google - you are doomed to fail! and let's say that you are choosing the wrong product, or even the wrong time to promote it - again, the success won't come. Today I truly believe that many times, the best way to go is to find someone who really knows and learn from him. That's how I made my first sale and first profits.
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    • Profile picture of the author Donn Maala
      Originally Posted by mickyl View Post

      I've seen here on the forum so many posts that says: simply do 1, 2, 3 and 4, 5, be persistent and you'll probably succeed. The problem is that it's usually not that simple. Let's say that you are choosing a very very very competitive niche and try, for the first time in your life to rank at google - you are doomed to fail! and let's say that you are choosing the wrong product, or even the wrong time to promote it - again, the success won't come. Today I truly believe that many times, the best way to go is to find someone who really knows and learn from him. That's how I made my first sale and first profits.

      Yes having a mentor you guide you along the way is a sure way to get to the right path ! I mean there is nothing like having someone who is already been there. Another factor to consider is most of this mentors already have communities of their own where you can join and be a part of like-minded people who will help encourage you and look out for you along the way...
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  • Profile picture of the author krestup
    Originally Posted by Donn Maala View Post


    1. Find a Niche you are passionate about
    2. Research, research, research
    3. Start a blog/website and set up your house.
    4. Create value
    5. Go where the traffic is
    6. Control the traffic and own them.
    Those are the step you have to follow to make money on the internet but you should know that the internet is as competitive as your brick and mortar business. In other to succeed you have to come up with a technique that would help you beat your competitor so you can stay ahead. So there is no easy money on the internet as most people think, you would have to work hard to earn money....
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  • Profile picture of the author ponyboy
    Nothing but hard work. Don't start doubting yourself. The fact that you're questioning your abilities means that you probably don't have faith in yourself. Furthermore, there are so many ways you can go about making money. Its like you can almost never fail. My advice, give yourself a couple of months and give it your all. I can send you some guides if you want
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  • Profile picture of the author XenG
    this is one of the toughest thing to do - convert traffic to profit. I think this is the part that most marketers fail. Every marketer wants that huge amount that traffic. In this one alone, people start to meet the tough challenge. And then when you get past through it comes the challenge of getting your visitors to act - that is to buy your product.
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  • Profile picture of the author stan22
    1. Find a Niche you are passionate about
    2. Research, research, research
    3. Start a blog/website and set up your house.
    4. Create value
    5. Go where the traffic is
    6. Control the traffic and own them.

    Out of the foregoing, #1 is not required, and often will lead you astray.
    As for #6 "and own them" is outright impossible.
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  • I think most people fail because they are lazy and don't do what they need to do and/or they just give up. If you have a solid plan and keep at it success is inevitable.
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