Are all clickbank products crap?

15 years ago

In answer to your question:

NO..

All clickbank products aren't crap. You DO need to filter some crap ones though, because there are a lot of poor quality products out there, this doesn't only apply to clickbank though. It's sad, but true.

You just need to be vigilant and research thoroughly before you start your promotions.

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Jay

p.s. Don't ignore clickbank, but also.. don't rely solely on clickbank...

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gtara4 15 years ago

In any case they have money back guarantee, so you can ask for refund.
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ViktorB

15 years ago

If they are selling well it doesnt mean that they are good.
Yes, there are a lot of crap there, but there are and great products also.
Just research 5-10 of the product of your niche and decide whats better to promote, how convert and etc.

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Roy Carter

15 years ago

Jay is right.

There are some excellent products on CB but some poor ones too.

Personally, if I come across a poor one that is selling well, I'll create my own high quality product on the same subject and collect big time.

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Eric Lorence

15 years ago

Google and Yahoo searches are not going to find you good products to promote...

You have to buy and use the product, then judge for yourself.

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michellegreen

15 years ago

I have found some fantastic products in Clicbank but like the others have said, you will need to do your own research.

Also, checking out their sales page, reading the testimonials etc will give some insight (in some cases) as to the quality of the product, however you ultimately have to purchase it and check it out for yourself to be sure.

Good luck in finding the right product in your niche!

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Steven Wagenheim

15 years ago

Yes, they're ALL crap.

All products are crap...except mine.

So if you buy any products at all, make sure you only buy MINE.

**NOTE** In case anyone didn't get it, the above is extreme sarcasm. We
sure do get some of the most interesting questions around here. :rolleyes:

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Vince Runza Online

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Yes, they're ALL crap.

All products are crap...except mine.

So if you buy any products at all, make sure you only buy MINE.

**NOTE** In case anyone didn't get it, the above is extreme sarcasm. We
sure do get some of the most interesting questions around here. :rolleyes:

I think that's a very sensible attitude for you to have about ClickBank in general and your products in particular, Steven!

Seriously, you need to buy, test and approve ClickBank products yourself. Otherwise, you're hanging your success on other people, not yourself.

Go one better -- create your own products. That way, you'll know in advance if they're crappy! :p

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jmidas 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

**NOTE** In case anyone didn't get it, the above is extreme sarcasm. :rolleyes:

No need to explain, although I guess there is always that one person...
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FranMurray 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Eric Lorence

Google and Yahoo searches are not going to find you good products to promote...

You have to buy and use the product, then judge for yourself.

This is a must... You must use the product... this will give you the best basis to make a recommendation. Remember your reputation is on the line. So do a real review and don't offer crap.

Just My Thoughts
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Cynthia A.

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Eric Lorence

Google and Yahoo searches are not going to find you good products to promote...

You have to buy and use the product, then judge for yourself.

Originally Posted by michellegreen

I have found some fantastic products in Clicbank but like the others have said, you will need to do your own research.

Also, checking out their sales page, reading the testimonials etc will give some insight (in some cases) as to the quality of the product, however you ultimately have to purchase it and check it out for yourself to be sure.

I agree 100%! The operative words are FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF. I see so many people promoting products that they have NO idea whether they work or not. But the commission is so good that they don't bother testing it out. High gravity & high commission is good enough proof for them.

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terryrayburn 15 years ago

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Personally, if I come across a poor one that is selling well, I'll create my own high quality product on the same subject and collect big time.

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Andy1750

15 years ago

Based on my experience (I have bought several products and read many review copies) the significant majority are worse than crap - complete and utter garbage.

There are a few gems - Commission Blueprint, MicroNicheFinder. Am sure that some of Steve's are also good - I've bought some of his WSOs recently and they are full of meat. But generally speaking it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

Personally, I hate Clickbank. Too competitive and I don't get any satisfaction from promoting junk. Based on my experiences people are now starting to become more immune to the long tacky sales letters which are so overexagerated they routinely verge on being untruthful. Yes, people are gullible - but once bitten, twice shy.

Clickbank's a great way to start off. But in response to your original question, sadly, most if the products ARE crap. Learn to market proper products and services. It's a gazillion times more satisfying - believe me!

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jbsmith

15 years ago

No, but the good news is that Clickbank recently added another measure to help out - you now have Popularity, Gravity and "Crapity", any number above 50 tells you the crap factor is pretty high.

Jeff

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jasondinner

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jbsmith

No, but the good news is that Clickbank recently added another measure to help out - you now have Popularity, Gravity and "Crapity", any number above 50 tells you the crap factor is pretty high.

Jeff

He said Crapity - HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHA

That's great man.

There's nothing I love more than a good laugh just after I wake up

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But yeah, if i were to give a ratio on good to crap in clickbank, i would say that

20% of the products are good and the other 80% are crap - TOTAL CRAP.

Jason

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BurgerBoy

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Andy1750

Based on my experience (I have bought several products and read many review copies) the significant majority are worse than crap - complete and utter garbage.

Personally, I hate Clickbank. Too competitive and I don't get any satisfaction from promoting junk. Based on my experiences people are now starting to become more immune to the long tacky sales letters which are so overexagerated they routinely verge on being untruthful. Yes, people are gullible - but once bitten, twice shy.

Clickbank's a great way to start off. But in response to your original question, sadly, most if the products ARE crap. Learn to market proper products and services. It's a gazillion times more satisfying - believe me!

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I agree with you 100%. Crap, Crap, Crap.

It's stuff aimed at newbies that don't know any better - to get them to buy something they don't need.

The average CB sales page looks like this: Buy My Stupid Ebook, Overly SEO d Title, Keywords Crammed like Make Money Online Make Money Online Make Money Online

That should tell you all you need to know.

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JimmyD

15 years ago

Originally Posted by BurgerBoy

I agree with you 100%. Crap, Crap, Crap.

It's stuff aimed at newbies that don't know any better - to get them to buy something they don't need.

The average CB sales page looks like this: Buy My Stupid Ebook, Overly SEO d Title, Keywords Crammed like Make Money Online Make Money Online Make Money Online

That should tell you all you need to know.

Love the stupid ebook...

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Tom Ryan

15 years ago

Just like every where, there are a lot of crappy products, and there are a lot of really good products. Just put in a bit of research to weed out the junk.

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artwebster

15 years ago

20% of the products are good and the other 80% are crap - TOTAL CRAP.

Could that have anything to do with 80% of the products being created by internet marketers for internet marketers?

Just a thought in one of my Old Coot moments.

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jasondinner

15 years ago

Originally Posted by artwebster

20% of the products are good and the other 80% are crap - TOTAL CRAP.

Could that have anything to do with 80% of the products being created by internet marketers for internet marketers?

Just a thought in one of my Old Coot moments.

That's not what I was getting at. 80/20 rule applies everywhere, even in Clickbank.

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reynald2790

15 years ago

I say that clickbanks products are not crap. You can say that clickbanks products are crap only if you have tried it for a year or so. Or if you have a proof to made it a crap product.

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Glenn72

15 years ago

The crap products are easy to spot just by looking at the banner on the sales page. If the banner contains photos of cash falling out of the sky, a mansion with a pool, a 15 year old red Ferrari, or a handsome guy in a business suit smiling, then you definitely know for sure it's a crap product.

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JazzOscar

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Glenn72

The crap products are easy to spot just by looking at the banner on the sales page. If the banner contains photos of cash falling out of the sky, a mansion with a pool, a 15 year old red Ferrari, or a handsome guy in a business suit smiling, then you definitely know for sure it's a crap product.

I see you use almost the same method for initial evaluation of offers that I do. Although, some times it might be an OK product, the promotion just showing kind of bad taste on the promoters side.

To me, all those components you mention don't first and foremost serve as a proof of success. Instead they often make me wonder about the basic values in the life of the promoter. They make me think; "Is this a person I would want to learn from, even if he or she is successfull? Will the business methods that marketer teaches fit in well with my view on life in general?"

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sam12six

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JazzOscar

I see you use almost the same method for initial evaluation of offers that I do. Although, some times it might be an OK product, the promotion just showing kind of bad taste on the promoters side.

To me, all those components you mention don't first and foremost serve as a proof of success. Instead they often make me wonder about the basic values in the life of the promoter. They make me think; "Is this a person I would want to learn from, even if he or she is successfull? Will the business methods that marketer teaches fit in well with my view on life in general?"

Y'know, the thing I've always wondered was whether people use this style of marketing because it works, used to work, or because they've seen other people use it.

It may just be that in studying the marketing aspect, we've seen this so much that it turns us off. They do say that the most difficult person to sell is a salesman because he's aware of when you're using "sales techniques".

For me personally, I don't even buy from sales pages any more - only recommendations from people I believe know what they are talking about.

When I see a picture of a guy leaning against a lambourghini with a pool in the background holding a fanned-out stack of money, it strikes me the same way that a guy walking up in a pink fur coat, carrying a walking stick and wanting to introduce me to a nice girl would.

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Martin Luxton 15 years ago

It depends where you are on your IM path.

When you have been around for a few years and read a lot of what's out there you are better able to distinguish between good and bad (and abysmal).

For a complete newcomer, a rehashed generic "how to" book with no useful action plan that contains a lot of things s/he has never seen before will seem great. More experienced marketers will recognise it as rewritten PLR and dismiss it as crap (or find the same original product on their hard drive, spin it and bung it on Clickbank as well).

As Shakespeare said, "Crap is in the eye of the beholder".

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chibobski84

15 years ago

what do you guys think about paydotcom products? as an alternative to clickbank products?

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Dan C. Rinnert 15 years ago

Originally Posted by chibobski84

what do you guys think about paydotcom products? as an alternative to clickbank products?

There's a lot of junk there too. I've wanted to promote more PayDotCom products to compare against Clickbank products to see how conversion rates stack up. (So I can get a better idea whether things are converting poorly because they aren't converting well or because Clickbank isn't tracking them properly.) But, on PDC, too, there is a lot of junk. And, PDC doesn't seem to be as easy to search as Clickbank or offer as many search options. So, it makes it harder (for me) to go through to find any gems.

The nature of publishing, in the traditional physical book sense, is that what gets published is what's expected to sell. No publisher wants to print thousands of books if only a handful will actually sell. Of course, sometimes they have misses, but they try to publish only what they think will sell.

So, you have publishers and editors and so forth that filter books and weed out the junk. Still, even with that, a fair amount of garbage does get published. But, on the downside, there is quality work that doesn't get published. The author might slip through the cracks, or the topic may too small a niche for a publisher to want to deal with. Sometimes, even a small book publisher might not want too small a niche.

With digital books, those authors can get their works published. They may have a quality eBook to sell. And, if they sell, for example, 100 copies and $10 each, that's $1,000 they wouldn't have gotten any other way with their book, because traditional publishers didn't want to touch them.

But, that also means that anyone can publish anything. And, even with people filtering (though perhaps not heavily) the works submitted to digital marketplaces, a lot of junk still gets through. So, yes, you will find a lot of junk there. You will find a lot of junk probably where ever you go.

Of course, what's junk is often subjective too. There's no doubt that there is a lot of stuff that would be considered junk by virtually anyone's perspective, except perhaps from that of the author. But, overall, you might consider something to be junk if it offers nothing of value to you, but the next guy might think it's great because it offered something of value to him. So, you have to bear the target audience in mind. If you think something is junk, it could be because you already know the material and there's nothing of value in it to you. But, that doesn't mean it isn't of value to someone else.
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Kris Turner

15 years ago

There's some crap on clickbank. There's some average stuff on Clickbank. There's some excellent stuff on Clickbank.

Think of it like a big store that sells everything. Some of the products in that store will be crap. Others will be excellent.

A handful of bad products don't mean that everything in the store/Clickbank is the same. If you search for the great products, you'll find them.

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Akogo

15 years ago

Any of the info products on Clickbank are questionable... Recently I was looking for high blood pressure products on Clickbank and purchased the top seller. It emphasize using natural means rather than drugs to lower blood pressure -- it was well written, presented non-drug remedies that appeared to make sense. However, it didn't cite studies that support any of the claims. Then I went over to Amazon and purchase a hypertension book at 1/3 the price and in that book it also went over natural means of lowering blood pressure WITH tons and tons of well respected medical journals cited that support the effectiveness of non-drug approaches.

Does Clickbank even review any of the products it earns fees from? Looks like their standards are low. Okay, I know even Amazon has duds too.

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Glenn72

15 years ago

What I don't like are the products that show you how to download movies, software, games and music. What's even worse is that many of these products are popular and have high gravity. Regardless of how popular they are, I wouldn't feel comfortable promoting anything like that. These scammers are making money from showing people how to download movies, music and software without any of the money going to the artists, film makers and software developers. Clearly that's wrong.

I don't like 70 page ebooks that sell for $97 either. Regardless of the content, that's a rip off. Especially when the author would most probably never have any chance of getting a real publishing deal. Most of these books don't even have the contents or index listed down the left side. Just page 1, page 2, page 3 etc. It shows how little thought has gone into the product.

I'd say the best thing you can do is buy and review the product. Use your own affiliate link to pay for it. If it sucks, give it a bad review and get your money back. Promoting rubbish won't do anyone any good.

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Dan C. Rinnert

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Glenn72

I don't like 70 page ebooks that sell for $97 either. Regardless of the content, that's a rip off.

If someone sells a $97 1-page PDF document that shows me how to reasonably and realistically make $1,000 over the course of a weekend doing something I can easily do, without additional expense and that I would never have thought of on my own, I'd say that $97 is a pretty good investment, especially if it's something that could be repeated every weekend.

You can't evaluate content by page count. Content has to be judged by itself. Someone could write a 50 page eBook that's mostly fluff and provides the same value that someone else might offer in 5 pages without all the fluff. Likewise, two 50 page eBooks are not comparable in value if one is mostly fluff and the other is a solid 50 pages of content.

Evaluate content on its own, not by the number of pages. Evaluating content based on page count only leads to eBook peddlers intentionally stretching things out to meet a certain page count.

Evaluating content for content's sake will lead to eBook publishers concentrating on providing solid content, and laying out the eBook as appropriate for readability and organization and not artificially padding the page count.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

If someone sells a $97 1-page PDF document that shows me how to reasonably and realistically make $1,000 over the course of a weekend doing something I can easily do, without additional expense and that I would never have thought of on my own, I'd say that $97 is a pretty good investment, especially if it's something that could be repeated every weekend.

You can't evaluate content by page count. Content has to be judged by itself. Someone could write a 50 page eBook that's mostly fluff and provides the same value that someone else might offer in 5 pages without all the fluff. Likewise, two 50 page eBooks are not comparable in value if one is mostly fluff and the other is a solid 50 pages of content.

Evaluate content on its own, not by the number of pages. Evaluating content based on page count only leads to eBook peddlers intentionally stretching things out to meet a certain page count.

Evaluating content for content's sake will lead to eBook publishers concentrating on providing solid content, and laying out the eBook as appropriate for readability and organization and not artificially padding the page count.

I think you are so right in what you say.

There seems to be too much focus on price or number of pages, without serious consideration towards the value of the content.

I don't know why this is . . . perhaps someone will tell me.

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goingup

15 years ago

Ok, assuming that Clickbank is mostly crapola , and assuming that products and services are a better way to go:what products and services should you represent? I mean in the sense of a network, not an indivual product.
Amazon and Ebay may be great but it takes 3 months to get paid-something much quicker and with good conversion rates.

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Akogo 15 years ago

Originally Posted by goingup

Amazon and Ebay may be great but it takes 3 months to get paid-something much quicker and with good conversion rates.

Amazon pays monthly direct deposit if you choose.
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jasonsystema

15 years ago

I agree with Eric. You shouldn't promote something you haven't tried yourself. If you think it's something worth telling people about, then you should promote it.

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Yusuf

15 years ago

I've had similar thoughts. Another way to possibly look at the situation is:

many Clickbank affiliates + not as many quality products = ideal opportunity for making a quality product that will be promoted if it can gain just a little bit of gravity when launching it

Even if you don't have high gravity in the beginning, if you give the affiliates some love in the affiliates section of the product (pre-made banners, suggested keywords, bonuses, etc.) which will encourage them to promote it then this should help maybe even more so than a inflated gravity.

What do you guys think? Just look at the highest selling products on Clickbank... many of them leave huge room for improvement for one to build on and offer a better quality product, which will make you the product creator, the affiliate who will promote it and the customer who will buy it all happy. The only person left unhappy is the one who made the initial mediocre product.

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GoogleSearchToday.com

15 years ago

I wouldn't say they are ALL crap, but just like everyone else said there is a lot of crap out there.

I have never made a profit with ANY click back product. This doesn't mean that you can't, I just didn't really understand at the time how to promote a product like I do now with out paying for advertisinig.

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Trader54

15 years ago

A lot of people buy products then call them crap.

They thought just the process of buying the product would solve their problem
not actually doing what it says.

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gyar29

15 years ago

Originally Posted by highrider21

I recently bought a WSO on article marketing and it says to pick a product from clickbank to promote. So I found several products from clickbank that obviously sell well but when do a search for them on yahoo answers everyone says they are crap!

Originally Posted by highrider21

Are all clickbank products crap?

At 3:30am as you slowly drive through Buttclinch WV, a town with a population of over 4000, you see 6 people.

All 6 of these people give you a friendly wave and all 6 have black hair.

3 days later you're at yahoo answers looking to do a wee bit o marketing when you spot someone asking about the town of Buttclinch.

With a sense of anticipation you decide that you are gonna help out this poor lost soul and let them know everything you know about your new favorite town, while helping yourself to a link back to one of your sites.

Your answer:

I recently spent some time in Buttclinch and a few things really stand out in my mind.

As you meander through the old town you will quickly note that all the town's population is very friendly and that all of them have black hair.

Of course everyone knows that Buttclinch is in West Virginia, therefore; being friendly is a symptom of their naivety and the Black Hair phenomena is a result of intense inbreeding within the population of Buttclinch.

So if you are ever in Buttclinch I suggest that you enjoy the old world ambiance, bask in the communities friendliness, and do not expect to get laid.

Why you ask? Because you ain't related to nobody!

The point of our story:

Taking a really small sample of a really large population does not allow one to draw any informed conclusions. Regardless of what social proof you may have.

Of course there is crap for sale on clickbank, but are you really sure that everyone in Buttclinch is friendly and has black hair?

Gene

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TheRichLife

15 years ago

When I first started thinking about geting into IM, I looked at Clickbank, because all the "gurus" said it was the way to go. I didn't see one thing I would be willing to sell to somebody. I thought the whole site was a giant scum pool.

I'm sure there's plenty of money to be made on clickbank, but I'll pass.

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Trader54

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichLife

When I first started thinking about geting into IM, I looked at Clickbank, because all the "gurus" said it was the way to go. I didn't see one thing I would be willing to sell to somebody. I thought the whole site was a giant scum pool.

I'm sure there's plenty of money to be made on clickbank, but I'll pass.

Clickbank has a lot of products for sale. How many did you review?

Did you have to buy them to review them?

How many did you buy to come to that conclusion?

You have to buy a lot to make such a blanket statement. And if you bought that many and considered them all a scum pool I would question your ability to make a decision as to the quality of the products.

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alexei_aus

15 years ago

how do you define a good or a bad product?

when you go to clickbank's marketplace, you can see how well they are sold by looking at gravity, which defines how many affiliates sold the product at least once per month.

quite a lot of people make the mistake by promoting products with high gravity, forgetting the actual gravity definition (previous paragraph). they forget that they would have to compete against some of the people who are already selling the product....

the main thing is to find a product, which isnt promoted so well and do a better job in promoting it, then the owner of the product.

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highrider21 15 years ago

Wow, I didn't think I would get so many responses. Anyways, my real question is how do I decide which product to promote? What niches or products are good for beginners to promote via article marketing? Should I try the spyware/adware niche? Or should I choose something less saturated?
My only problem right now is trying to decide on a product to promote (that isn't crap).
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GeorgR.

15 years ago

i'd say 75% of products on CB are overhyped cr@p, yes. Literally overhyped with wrong promises, some even very close to scams.

However, there ARE some good products also, you have to search for them.

CB has about 9000products...25% still equals 2250 good products.

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dndoseller

15 years ago

If I was you I'd take the "reputation" part out of the mix and do a conduit style site that has nothing to do with you as a person.

Just do objective reports on the products based on customer feedback gathered from the Web and let the consumer decide.

I make huge commissions on clickbank products.

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tdj 15 years ago

Not all of them but I would guess most. Many other places to find products to promote. You can always buy the product and check for yourself. Normally a money back guarantee with clickbank products.

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iwanttomakemoney

15 years ago

I think that some Clickbank products aren't worthwhile at all. As many posters have stated above already, most are just rehashed PLR articles while others genuinely offer something new.

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Chris Dolan

15 years ago

It takes alot of time to go through the Clickbank products to find gems, but they are there.

And in some cases the rehashed PLR is just what someone needs. But I think if you compared Clickbank to WSO's you would find far more quality in WSO's today. But Clickbank still is a great source for ideas. Lets face it if you know there is a niche, because the Gravity is going through the roof, then there is money in the niche too.

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Mark .W. James

15 years ago

Don't go for their IM products but I really like the other stuff they have.

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joannabenz

15 years ago

I have seen a few very high quality products on Clickbank, too -- but not in the IM area.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by ProductCreator

My personal opinion on them is that the "crap" comments you hear at places like Yahoo Answers are by disgruntled customers who have probably obtained a refund. For example:

Someone looks for a solution to their problem.
They come across a CB site.
They notice and remember that the sales page is a "sensational" direct marketing type site.
They decide to buy the product.
Being socially conditioned, they do not believe that the methods advised actually work.
OR They don't even bother to get off their lazy ass and try the methods described.
OR They think to themselves "I could have searched the internet for that", even though they never did and they never will do.
They remember the direct marketing sales page and the fact they paid more money than for a regular book.
Disgruntled, they get a refund.
To reinforce their own perverse logic, they decide to bad mouth the product.

This is my theory anyway, that people who say CB products are crap are a minority of disgruntled customers. I've noticed several products that I promote as an affiliate and during my research, people on boards say that this ebook or that ebook is crap and even share it illegally.

And yet, when I obtain a review copy of these ebooks, they are not crap at all.

Yes . . . Yes . . . Yes . . . You are very close to the truth.

Too many folk out there just can't help themselves. The very thought of putting some energy and effort into a project is really too much.

Lets just sit and hope something will drop in . . .

Hey, what's on the other channel ???

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Mr McDonald

15 years ago

Thats quite a harsh statement about clickbank products. If you look around the site there is some top selling items. If Clickbank only promoted crap products why has it been around so long and seen off so many competetors???

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BurgerBoy

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Mr McDonald

Thats quite a harsh statement about clickbank products. If you look around the site there is some top selling items. If Clickbank only promoted crap products why has it been around so long and seen off so many competetors???

The world is full of newbies wanting to make money and they are targeted as suckers to sell crappy products to.

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Trader54 15 years ago

Originally Posted by BurgerBoy

The world is full of newbies wanting to make money and they are targeted as suckers to sell crappy products to.

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kess

15 years ago

I think there is definitely an element of the product buyer maybe expecting too much and in turn being disappointed. Some of the blame may lie with the hyped sales page? I'm not saying there isn't rubbish out there. I'm saying that there are those (as already mentioned above) that expect to be saved from their life's money or any other problem by just reading a book!

This whole topic is a bit worrying, especially when I am planning to launch a "real" SEO book (as I would like to call it) just to share my years of experience to show people how I have ranked many of my sites on the big G for key phrases having competition between 50 million to 650+ million...

See I will be showing examples of one of the sites currently on the number 1 spot for a very competitive phrase but I'm now worried that if I launch this, some poor soul wanting to be an SEO "guru" overnight is going to grab the book, read it and expect to be on number 1 for a key phrase with 700 million competition instantly. If he doesn't realize that nothing in life comes free and that you have to work for it, then a product seller like me is doomed, irrespective of how genuine I may be to share my personal experience of SEO success! He's gonna think if he has paid me $xx, he should be on the number 1 spot. Sure he will if he works hard, but for the lazy guy, material like this is worthless and he will just retort to adverse publicity. Maybe its time to keep it shelved and keep SEO'ing for life..!

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bionictortoise

15 years ago

One problem with CB is that often people start off as an affiliate for a great product, and after they've built up a substantial list, they think "Hey, I could make my own product on the subject and keep 100% of the profits!"

So what we end up with is TONS of products of varying qualities, for the best niches.

Use the advice already given to separate the good ones from the crap. But ultimately you should only promote stuff you know well.

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cubaguy

15 years ago

There are some great CB products but many are trash, ask for review copy on those of interest, most merchs will provide..

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mikemcmillan

15 years ago

There is good and bad everywhere. Personally, if I bought something and thought it was total junk, I'd ask myself how I could make it better. Then I'd go do it. I'd look at it as an opportunity!

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pirdaus

15 years ago

not all clickbank product are crap
maybe some product are crap

you can calculate refund fund
if refund rate is high
it would be that product are crap

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Harvey Segal 15 years ago

Originally Posted by pirdaus

you can calculate refund

Actually you can't.

It's discussed in this thread

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...heck-them.html

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- de_name 15 years ago
  
  iam agree with u bro, iam affraid there is a lot of poor product
  i join clickbank but not active yet,
  i confused because i show a lot of fake testimonial n some people underestimates about E-book. makes me feel not comfort to sell e-book.
  
  maybe u right,we have to try it first and then sell it. i think like that too,,
  
  and i need to collect more money first to trial n error
  
  thanks for share, its really good for newbie like me
  
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  Alminc 15 years ago
  
  All Clickbank products are crap except for one...mine!
  
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GuruGazette

15 years ago

It helps to remember that not all CB products are ebooks too. Yes that's the majority of them and the quality varies, but there's also software available there, and a lot of that is pretty good.

I even checked with them awhile back about offering some of my stock photography through them and it's allowed, I just never got around to deciding if I wanted to list it there or not.

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pithu7

15 years ago

I'm sure people do, but put yourself in someones shoes that has been scammed by sites saying, "I mkae $4,000 a day and so can you". They pay for it and barely make $100 a day. How do you think they will react when they see another person on the web saying they make $4,000 a day?

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valtex

15 years ago

no not all are crap you just have to find the right product

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qq10075684

15 years ago

There are some excellent products also i think..

To find them carefully and you will find much products that make u satisfied..

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mastermoog

15 years ago

Thanks all. I think i'll do some research on the CB products before i go out and start pushing potential crap into buyers faces.

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James12C

15 years ago

I agree - the IM products can be dodgy but there's some good stuff if you look around.

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Ilse

15 years ago

There are top notch products listed on clickbank. An example is seo elite (which i bought).

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Barry Plaskow

15 years ago

Originally Posted by highrider21

I recently bought a WSO on article marketing and it says to pick a product from clickbank to promote. So I found several products from clickbank that obviously sell well but when do a search for them on yahoo answers everyone says they are crap! I don't want to be pushing crap, it just feels wrong. The products I am referring to are those adware/spyware removers, registry fixers, and acne ebooks. I thought about promoting dating ebooks but that seems to be way to competitive and I don't know much about it. Are there any niches that have clickbank products that are reputable and would be good for a beginner to promote? Or should I just choose a different network like Commision Junction? I'm just trying to decide on a product to promote via article marketing. Any advice? Thanks.

My perception is that there is a whole load of garbage out there. the first thing i look for is the sales page. If they haven't put much effort into that it seems unlikely the product will be of much value.

its great to see that you refuse to sell rubbish. If only most of the gurus did the same!

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keivn2

15 years ago

If a products in clickbank that used to have 80++ gravity now dropped to 70...does it worth to promote it?

Same goes to a products that have around gravity 8..

Should I give a try? Opinion and help please.

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garyv

15 years ago

You'd be surprised at what people are willing to buy. You know the saying "One man's trash is another man's treasure". Well that is definitely true online as well. The good thing about clickbank, is that they make it extremely easy to get a refund. So you don't have to feel too bad about selling trash - because if it's not another man's treasure, then he can always get an easy refund.

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bannor32

15 years ago

With their more than generous refund policy I think that Clickbank has more or less let quality control take care of itself. People who aren't satisfied with a product (because it's crap) will "return" it. The authors of these products will therefore make very little money, and will be forced to improve upon their product if they want to be successful. That is why it is important to look at all the stats of a product (not just gravity) when deciding which product you want to promote. There are definitely some high quality products available.

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rapidscc

15 years ago

First, in my opinion, clickbank among the best, if not the top source for e-products.

Second, why not try to include the word "good" when you search for reviews on clickbank items. Maybe then you will also see the other side of the story.

just my .02

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