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How to set up Autoresponder so Affiliate gets credit

by Batilda
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I have a product on Clickbank. I am generating email leads via a squeeze page. I am using Aweber to capture the email leads.

However, I want to make sure that any affiliate that sends traffic to this squeeze page gets credit for the eventual sale that comes from the captured email leads that he has sent to my squeeze page.

How do you set up Aweber and the squeeze page so that all leads are tagged with the affiliate that referred the lead?

Ideally, after linking the affiliate with the email lead, the Aweber autoresponder would be automatically set up so that the links on the emails being sent to the lead will have the correct hoplink with the appropriate affiliate ID.

I know that super affiliates do this, anyone know how?
#affiliate #autoresponder #credit #set
  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    I THINK it would involve some sort of PHP, but I'm not 100% certain.

    I've never done it, but I do know that its possible. Especially with Aweber.

    Good luck, let us know what you had to do too!
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  • Profile picture of the author Batilda
    Someone told me that the software EasyClickMate can do this - anyone have experience with it? If so, is it easy to set up in the software?
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    • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
      Here's the basics...

      Create a custom field within your autoresponder account
      to allow the collection of the affiliate ID data for each
      subscriber.

      Create a squeeze page and use the HTML code for your
      web form (not the javascript version).

      Make sure that your squeeze page can execute php and
      then autofill the custom field for the affiliate ID by pulling
      the ID from the affiliate cookie.

      Then, in all of your outgoing autoresponder e-mails, use
      the affiliate ID custom field to auto-insert the affiliate ID
      in the e-mail links for each subscriber.

      Dedicated to mutual success,

      Shaun
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      • Profile picture of the author Batilda
        Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

        Here's the basics...

        Create a custom field within your autoresponder account
        to allow the collection of the affiliate ID data for each
        subscriber.

        Create a squeeze page and use the HTML code for your
        web form (not the javascript version).

        Make sure that your squeeze page can execute php and
        then autofill the custom field for the affiliate ID by pulling
        the ID from the affiliate cookie.

        Then, in all of your outgoing autoresponder e-mails, use
        the affiliate ID custom field to auto-insert the affiliate ID
        in the e-mail links for each subscriber.

        Dedicated to mutual success,

        Shaun
        Shaun...Thanks so much for your reply. I think in get the gist of what you are saying. The part of your answer I don't understand is this: "...autofill the custom field for the affiliate ID by pulling the ID from the affiliate cookie"

        How do you do that part? Is it a simple php code of some sort?
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeff Hope
          Hi Batilda,

          When an affiliate sends a visitor to your site through Clickbank, their affiliate ID will be in the ?hop= parameter that gets appended to your URL:

          yourdomain.com/?hop=affidhere

          You can use PHP (among other means) to retrieve the value of "hop" - that can then be inserted into the affiliate ID custom field you set up. It will be a hidden form field on your squeeze page, and the value of that field will be set to the same as the "hop" value using PHP.

          Then you can proceed from there as Shaun describes in using that ID in any links you place in your autoresponder series or broadcasts.

          FYI - many affiliates will appreciate it if you can also redirect at the same time to remove the ?hop= part of the URL. At that point the affiliate's cookie has already been set by Clickbank, so they will still get credit for a sale.

          Jeff

          p.s. - @Shaun - The browser cookie is actually set by the clickbank.net domain, so probably no access to it from the vendor domain. Otherwise the right approach though.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            You may find that comparatively few serious, professional affiliates (though the rest won't mind) are willing to send their traffic to a sales page with a vendor's opt in on it, for all the reasons explained by so many of them in threads like this: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oduct-opt.html (worth a careful, methodical read, perhaps?).

            The important thing, if you want a sales page with an opt-in, is to give affiliates a choice, by providing also a sales page without your opt-in, and announcing clearly in both your Marketplace listing and Vendor Spotlight page that that's what you're doing. Otherwise you may end up with affiliates drawn only from the 90% of affiliates who bring in 10% of the sales, at the expense of losing the other 10% of affiliates who produce 90% of them.

            I'm not, of course, questioning your motives in the slightest (indeed, rather the opposite: we can all see how ethical they are!), but the reality is that when researching products, many successful affiliates (i.e. the small minority you most want) will bypass sales pages with an opt-in very quickly indeed.

            Originally Posted by Batilda View Post

            I know that super affiliates do this
            "Superaffiliates" often make their own, separate arrangements with their vendors.
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            • Profile picture of the author Batilda
              Alexa...thanks for your take on the issue. I have a follow up question for you.

              I read the other thread, and I can understand how affiliates might get turned off with a sales page that ALSO has an opt-in, because they may never get credit for the sale from traffic that they sent. What about sending leads to an opt-in-only page?

              The type of pages that are working great for many vendors are right now are ones that have NO sales pitch or page, but a simple opt-in to receive free information such as an eBook or video. The lead is then captured which can be marketed to via autoresponder emails. Revenue per lead is 10X this way vs. just a sales page with no lead capture.

              Do you think the "serious professional affiliates" would NOT go for this, even if I state on my affiliate page something like "all leads resulting in a sale will be guaranteed credited to the affiliate who sent the lead."

              I guess I had presumed that affiliates would go for the more sophisticated, higher conversion strategy, as it brings in much higher conversions and commissions.
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              • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
                Hi Batilda,

                Originally Posted by Batilda View Post

                The type of pages that are working great for many vendors are right now are ones that have NO sales pitch or page, but a simple opt-in to receive free information such as an eBook or video. The lead is then captured which can be marketed to via autoresponder emails. Revenue per lead is 10X this way vs. just a sales page with no lead capture.
                You state that, as though it is fact... as though you have the raw data and experience as a vendor, to defend that statement.

                I bet, though, that you read it somewhere. Probably either 1) a sales page, 2) someone's affiliate sign up page, or 3) in an ebook somewhere.

                1 - If on a sales page... what were they selling? A script to do just that?

                2 - If on someone's affiliate sign up page, check their sales page. This vendor is probably trying to get you to send traffic to their opt in page.

                3 - if in an ebook... well, they had to write about something, because they needed a product to sell. It didn't matter what. It certainly didn't matter that they had never implemented/proven the strategy... they just needed to create a product and sell it. I wonder where they read about it?

                Sorry if I come off a little sarcastic, but the statement is totally false!
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                Originally Posted by Batilda View Post

                What about sending leads to an opt-in-only page?
                Worse still. Why would affiliates who know what they're doing want to build the vendor's list rather than their own? :confused:

                Originally Posted by Batilda View Post

                The type of pages that are working great for many vendors are right now are ones that have NO sales pitch or page, but a simple opt-in to receive free information such as an eBook or video. The lead is then captured which can be marketed to via autoresponder emails. Revenue per lead is 10X this way vs. just a sales page with no lead capture.
                Sorry if I seem very blunt, but I don't believe a word of this and am simply not willing to take it seriously at all.

                I offer you the additional observation that anything that can be sent by the vendor can (with the vendor's cooperation) be sent by the affiliate, without the affiliate needing to build the vendor's list for him. Pro-affiliates tend to like cooperative vendors.

                Originally Posted by Batilda View Post

                Do you think the "serious professional affiliates" would NOT go for this, even if I state on my affiliate page something like "all leads resulting in a sale will be guaranteed credited to the affiliate who sent the lead."
                Yes; I think almost no pro-affiliate will be remotely interested. Perhaps I should speak only for myself, but that's my opinion, anyway. You've seen how so many of them feel about this issue, in the long poll/thread you just read, so I don't think you can doubt it, really?

                Originally Posted by Batilda View Post

                I guess I had presumed that affiliates would go for the more sophisticated, higher conversion strategy
                They will. The one that goes for the most sophisticated, higher conversion strategy together with reliability of payments. Whatever the vendor can send them, the affiliate can send them. Vendors who recognize this and make their email series available for affiliates to send out themselves, if they want to, are often doing very well. From the serious affiliates' perspective what you're describing isn't "a more sophisticated, higher conversion strategy". The one you're describing will be fine for 90% of affiliates, I think. What many vendors sometimes don't quite appreciate is that the affiliates they want and need are actually the other 10% because they're the ones who make nearly all the sales. And the main reason they're the ones who make nearly all the sales is that they're building their own lists rather than the vendors' lists.
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          • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
            Originally Posted by Jeff Hope View Post

            @Shaun - The browser cookie is actually set by the clickbank.net domain, so probably no access to it from the vendor domain. Otherwise the right approach though.
            I was referring to pulling the affiliate ID from the cookie
            that is dropped on the visitor's computer.

            I normally work with Rapid Action Profits affiliate set-up and
            the code to access their affiliate cookie is:

            <?php echo $_COOKIE['nick']; ?>

            This pulls the affiliate ID from the cookie and then auto-
            populates the web form dynamically so that the affiliate
            ID gets inserted into the autoresponder database.

            Dedicated to mutual success,

            Shaun
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            • Profile picture of the author Jeff Hope
              Hi Shaun,

              Right - RAP runs on your own domain and can read cookies from that domain with no problem.

              I was saying that from a vendor's domain, where their sales or squeeze page is located, they won't be able to read the affiliate tracking cookie which is set by clickbank.net, another domain, for security reasons.

              Jeff
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    • Profile picture of the author PeakConfidence
      Originally Posted by Batilda View Post

      Someone told me that the software EasyClickMate can do this - anyone have experience with it? If so, is it easy to set up in the software?
      Easy click mate and click guard are amazing btw, i have set mine up on and off clickbank as a secure download and full affiliate site, the service is awesome too! Id recommend it in a second and is very easy to set up and yes cover affiliate auto responders
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  • Profile picture of the author Weblover50
    My first impresion was that it is not possible with Aweber and you may have to set up a custom mailing list software if you really want to do it. Thanks to Shaun OReilly for the details. Aweber is pretty cool, I understand
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  • Profile picture of the author Batilda
    Thanks Jeff...I get it now.

    I was about to ask you whether you know the PHP code I would need to use on the squeeze page to capture the information after the "?hop=" ?

    Then I did a Google search and found this good article which seems to have all the answers. I am placing a link here so that others can benefit:
    www . alvinpoh. com/how-to-dynamically-insert-affiliate-links-or-track-referrals-with-aweber/

    (I had to put spaces in the link because apparently I do not have enough of a post count to place links in my replies)
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  • Profile picture of the author Batilda
    Sid, Alexa...Thanks for enlightening me. I appreciate your passion.
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