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Hey Warriors,

I have been re-learning affiliate marketing these past few days and I realize that I have messed up by going to the new "big" thing. I have serveral websites that I didn't finished. I have joined my very first affiliate program and it was Amazon Assocaites. After I have seen this post. I have realized I messed up and now where I need to start. I have a website called Tech Geek. It was going to be my personal blog for computers. But I have decided to work on that site and monetize it with physical products. I am thinking that I should focus on Amazon specifically and actually master their affiliate program before I move on to another. Of course however, I have joined Commission Junction. But I did however, heard that you can make amazon work. My niche I was looking into was the Computer Niche. I know however, that niche is very broad. I havent decided on what im going to promote in that niche. I was getting an idea of promoting computer parts and give my tech geek website a test run and just see how things go. I know now thats what I need to focus on is Amazon Associates. An I am going to do just that. What do you think warriors? I want to basically turn my tech geek website into reviewing computer components to the computer market and get targeted buyers who are already "in the mood" to buy. What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author bsbear
    Awesome, I like how you are chronicling your adventure in your signature.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
      Originally Posted by bsbear View Post

      Awesome, I like how you are chronicling your adventure in your signature.
      I took off my Adsense Earnings. I want to focus on what I should have done long time ago. My first niche that I was going to do long time ago was samsung TV's, but I backed out like an Idiot I was. So now I want to go back and review computer parts as a test run and actually work on my site. I have it up right now. Its just blank and has no content whatso ever on there right now.
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    • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
      I don't understand why people promote something that pays 4-5% when you can promote affiliate networks that pay 75%.:confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
        Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post

        I don't understand why people promote something that pays 4-5% when you can promote affiliate networks that pay 75%.:confused:
        From what I learned, people promote physical products because its tangible and you have familiarty. An most people would trust Amazon over a vendor from the clickbank marketplace. But I can't really speak for everybody. Everybody is different. Thats just what I have learned. An hey that 4-5% commission can add up if you just keep working at it. Like probaly building a big authority or expanding one site to become a big authority website. Or just building more sites.
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        • Profile picture of the author fin
          If you ask me, you're wearing your underwear on top of your pants.

          Amazon is one sales channel.

          Build a website that you can use with anything: Amazon, CB, Commission J, etc.

          You're looking at it upside down, IMO anyway.
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          • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
            Originally Posted by fin View Post

            If you ask me, you're wearing your underwear on top of your pants.

            Amazon is one sales channel.

            Build a website that you can use with anything: Amazon, CB, Commission J, etc.

            You're looking at it upside down, IMO anyway.
            I have thought about it. I have joined CJ through affilorama when the taught how to sign up. I might use some click bank products if there are some for the computer niche. My general plan was to review computer parts for my website tech geek and just stick with tech geek for awhile.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post

        I don't understand why people promote something that pays 4-5% when you can promote affiliate networks that pay 75%.:confused:
        It's because you can sell 10 times as many on a "network" like Amazon. Everyone's heard of Amazon. Everyone trusts them. Conversion-rates can be huge, compared with (say) ClickBank. I'm saying that as someone making a living mostly through ClickBank. And by the way that 4-5% you speak of is often 8-9%.
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        • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          And by the way that 4-5% you speak of is often 8-9%.
          I must admit I haven't researched them in a few years.

          I will still take $75 out of each $100 over $8-$9 any day.
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            Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post

            I will still take $75 out of each $100 over $8-$9 any day.
            Even if you can sell 10-15 times as many of the $8/$9 commission item? :confused:

            Well, it's a view.

            I admit I'm on your side, really, in the sense that about 85% of my income comes from ClickBank. I added Amazon to my business only about a year or so ago. I do wish I'd done it earlier, though.
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            • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              Even if you can sell 10-15 times as many of the $8/$9 commission item? :confused:

              Well, it's a view.

              I admit I'm on your side, really, in the sense that about 85% of my income comes from ClickBank. I added Amazon to my business only about a year or so ago. I do wish I'd done it earlier, though.
              How do you guys do so well in clickbank! I wish I was that good . Well at least its good to know y'all mastered click bank and doing well in affiliate marketing
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              • Profile picture of the author fin
                Originally Posted by flatbro94 View Post

                How do you guys do so well in clickbank! I wish I was that good . Well at least its good to know y'all mastered click bank and doing well in affiliate marketing
                I'm on a different end of the spectrum from Alexa, but even I've discovered it's all about providing great value and building great relationships.

                Then it's just as easy as recommending something and they say, "OK!"
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                • Profile picture of the author maxaurelius
                  Originally Posted by fin View Post

                  I'm on a different end of the spectrum from Alexa, but even I've discovered it's all about providing great value and building great relationships.

                  Then it's just as easy as recommending something and they say, "OK!"

                  +1 Build the relationships first... Key. It's all I preach.
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post

                Now you've got me curious (like I don't have enough research to do) and I guess I would be remiss to not at least revisit the possibility.
                This is the thing: one always "has enough to do". :p

                To be honest, a couple of years ago I was making posts here saying I found it hard to understand why people wanted to sell items for 4%/5% commissions rather than for 70%/75%.

                But I saw plenty of people here making a living from Amazon, so I had a quick chat with Gaz Cooper, who kindly pointed me in the right direction over one or two Amazon things I didn't understand ... and to cut a long story short, it turns out that the "4%/5%" is actually 8%/9% and the conversion rates really can be very high (though, admittedly, you have this "funny business" that you have to sell a certain number of items per month to qualify for the upgraded commissions on the whole lot, but I do that by selling mostly books and some CD's on each of which I earn very little, but of course they're trivially easy to promote when you have decent lists, so it's actually not really so much of a chore as it sounds. And once they're mentioned in your autoresponder messages anyway, you don't really have to "do" anything to keep them ticking over, as long as you're continuing to build your lists).

                Anyway, we're digressing here, sorry, Flatbro. I think what you're planning to do sounds a pretty good idea. in principle, anyway.

                Originally Posted by flatbro94 View Post

                How do you guys do so well in clickbank!
                Well, I do all this: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774 , but it's an almost totally different business model from Amazon, of course.
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                • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
                  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                  Well, I do all this: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774 , but it's an almost totally different business model from Amazon, of course.
                  Why is it totally different, except for the different numbers (conversion rates and commission percentage)?

                  Isn't an Amazon product promoted the same way a ClickBank product is? You recommend it in the autoresponder sequence, then you point them to a review page, and from there to the actual Amazon product page.

                  Is there something I'm missing out? :confused:
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                  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                    Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

                    Why is it totally different, except for the different numbers (conversion rates and commission percentage)?
                    Because (I think?) many people who are doing well with Amazon are doing so with "product sites" rather than "niche sites", and many are even consciously attracting traffic comprising people already interested in a specific product. (I know there are a few people who try to do that for ClickBank as well, but for obvious reasons very few of them ever manage it successfully).

                    Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

                    Isn't an Amazon product promoted the same way a ClickBank product is?
                    It is by me, but I don't think that's necessarily typical at all.

                    Sorry, I'm not explaining this very clearly ... . What I'm saying is that with ClickBank, there are three or four really fundamental things that you have to do, and though people try many, many other ways of making ClickBank sales, almost nobody's ever successful with any of them, and there are reasons for that, and they're understandable and consistent and pretty much objective reasons. With Amazon I think this isn't so: I think there are all sorts of different ways of marketing Amazon products, and some of them actually work (at least to some extent).

                    The other difference, of course, is that you're not allowed to put Amazon links in emails, YouTube videos, and so on.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
                      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                      Sorry, I'm not explaining this very clearly ...
                      No problem. My question is, taking into the account the way you promote ClickBank products, when you, or I, decide to promote Amazon products as well, the process isn't different, is it? you just promote Amazon products the way you promote ClickBank ones.

                      Of course, there are other ways of promoting Amazon products, as you've specified, but I'm talking here in the context of how you do it, because to some extent that's my business model as well (well, to a large extent actually ).
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                        Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

                        No problem. My question is, taking into the account the way you promote ClickBank products, when you, or I, decide to promote Amazon products as well, the process isn't different, is it? you just promote Amazon products the way you promote ClickBank ones.
                        I do, yes.

                        With only two exceptions, I think ...

                        (i) In addition to my "normal sites", I do have one "gift-style" Amazon site for selling gimmicky/entertaining stuff, and on that site I don't have an opt-in or build a list;

                        (ii) I promote quite a few Amazon books which are of course ultra-low-price and ultra-low-commission, but they're worth my while simply because they increase my "number of sales" and with it my commission-level, and they're close to "set and forget" anyway.
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            • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              I do wish I'd done it earlier, though.
              Now you've got me curious (like I don't have enough research to do) and I guess I would be remiss to not at least revisit the possibility.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxaurelius
    =/ I'm not a fan of amazon's program. I've used them for selling merchandise for my niche and the payout is low if your selling items less than $100. Big ticket items on amazon is the best way to make GOOD money from amazon, but other than that you need to sell a lot to get a good commission check.

    I have one site that does 80+ orders of low end items like shirts and stuff, and monthly income for that site on amazon is about $60-200 bucks a month. That's good, but not compared to my other methods of generating income.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author sarlat
    You talk about getting targetted buyers - well for them to be targetted that means they must be looking for something to specifically purchase - not just browsing.

    To get targetted buyer you need to be satisfying a problem they are suffering or an outcome they desire. Find the problem/frustration/desire/ first then provide a solution to that problem/frustration/desire.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
      Originally Posted by sarlat View Post

      You talk about getting targetted buyers - well for them to be targetted that means they must be looking for something to specifically purchase - not just browsing.

      To get targetted buyer you need to be satisfying a problem they are suffering or an outcome they desire. Find the problem/frustration/desire/ first then provide a solution to that problem/frustration/desire.
      Your right. I agree with what your saying. I just haven't found the problem yet or I haven't figured out what specific products in my niche I want to review.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarlat
    If you are reviewing computer parts and there is a demand for this (I have no idea) then best bet is to build an email list, build a relationship with that list and then just sell products to that list as and when you find them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
      Originally Posted by sarlat View Post

      If you are reviewing computer parts and there is a demand for this (I have no idea) then best bet is to build an email list, build a relationship with that list and then just sell products to that list as and when you find them.
      I'be heard that's the way to go honestly is to build a relationship with a list that you can help.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarlat
    Absolutely the best thing you can do - opens up so many avenues for you.
    You can become an expert in the field of computer parts, building computers etc etc etc
    From there you can make your own products, services - even write an amazon book
    Just looking for small commissions from amazon is good but not going to make you wealthy on its own
    Build a list - build rapport- sell them stuff- simple....sort of
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  • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
    I hear its good to build a list over a problem.that people have and you can help them with. I hear that you could build a site over that problem and provide information to your problem. Would be good to offer like a free ebook or something providing them with valuable content and they will sign up to your list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
    I'm probably not opening eyes more by finding a problem first In the computer niche
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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    The guy that taught people how to use Evernote effectively made a killing.

    That's how powerful a targeted niche can be.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
    I have used evernote before
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  • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
    1. Find a profitable Niche

    2. BUild a list
    -fall in love with your list
    -care for your list and dont spam affiliate products

    3. Monetize with related products to your niche


    This is what I was taught from Chris Farell and His free training!
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  • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
    I personally want to change my username to my name now lol! I dont want to be called by my old username xD!
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    • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
      Originally Posted by flatbro94 View Post

      I personally want to change my username to my name now lol! I dont want to be called by my old username xD!
      I think that is possible. Check the rules.
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      Originally Posted by flatbro94 View Post

      I personally want to change my username to my name now lol! I dont want to be called by my old username xD!
      No problem doing that, here. Just open a helpdesk ticket and request a name-change. I've done it myself (I used to be just "Alexa S" when I first came here).
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      • Profile picture of the author Zack Sprague
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        No problem doing that, here. Just open a helpdesk ticket and request a name-change. I've done it myself (I used to be just "Alexa S" when I first came here).
        THANK YOU!
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