Need some tip on how to ''motivate''/make an emplyee finish his job...

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Hi! I do online marketing, but so far I was self employed, and so I don't have much experience with hiring people. Recently I've hired a freelance guy to help me finish translating and making subtitles of a seminar, but he takes too long to it.

I assume it is pretty overwhelming job but i have the feeling it gets prolonged too much. And i need it as soon as possible so I can start selling is as a first on the market.

On the other hand the price that I arranged to pay him is ridiculously small for that service, but sees that the payoff is taking too long in time. And one more issue is that he already finished half of it so its no point canceling it and giving to someone else. So can the pros give me some tips on what is best to be done?

PS: sorry if this is not the right place to post this thread I couldn't remember of any management/ hiring related forum - if you a better one hint me. Many thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    Sorry to tell you but the translator has figured out you low balled them and they decided to sell it themselves.
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    • Profile picture of the author lowriderzzz
      Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

      Sorry to tell you but the translator has figured out you low balled them and they decided to sell it themselves.
      he can't sell it himself because I doens't has access to the website and I can monitor if he sells it. He works on a full time job to and has just new born baby nad is moving to a new apartment, but that's not my issue.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by lowriderzzz View Post

        he can't sell it himself because I doens't has access to the website and I can monitor if he sells it. He works on a full time job to and has just new born baby nad is moving to a new apartment, but that's not my issue.
        THIS answers your question!

        You hired a guy with little time, a lot of needs, a lot of concern, and no ability to fact check! That is no problem, becuase you paid them enough......er..... DROP THAT.....! *****AND***** you LOW BALLED them!

        OF COURSE they are slow!

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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          If you don't want to cut your losses and start over with someone new and know this guy does good work, how about giving him some incentive.

          Perhaps you could make a bonus time schedule listing dates for completion with the largest bonus amount being the soonest completion date and dwindling amounts thereafter.

          Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author Nino
    If you depend so much on him why don't you offer a fast delivery bonus sounding like this:

    Hey x, I know it might be hard work for you with all your issues right now so I want to help you if you want to help me too. I will give you another <10 cents> if you deliver this in 1-2 days (whatever suits you best - instantly is obviously not possible).
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    • Profile picture of the author lowriderzzz
      Originally Posted by Nino View Post

      If you depend so much on him why don't you offer a fast delivery bonus sounding like this:

      Hey x, I know it might be hard work for you with all your issues right now so I want to help you if you want to help me too. I will give you another <10 cents> if you deliver this in 1-2 days (whatever suits you best - instantly is obviously not possible).
      yeah I was thinking about it, but what if he still takes long to finish it ?

      the price was a real bargain.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
        Originally Posted by lowriderzzz View Post


        the price was a real bargain.
        Getting what you paid for?
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      • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
        Originally Posted by lowriderzzz View Post

        yeah I was thinking about it, but what if he still takes long to finish it ?

        the price was a real bargain.
        Really, the bonus is a very good idea. Offer a big enough carrot and you'll always get the donkey to move (well, nearly always)
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  • Profile picture of the author Nino
    Have you paid him anything yet?
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    • Profile picture of the author lowriderzzz
      Originally Posted by Nino View Post

      Have you paid him anything yet?
      nope - i offered to pay him for the work done and he to send me the files but he wanted when all is completed to pay him and he to send me the files.
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      • Profile picture of the author wanderinglex
        Originally Posted by lowriderzzz View Post

        nope - i offered to pay him for the work done and he to send me the files but he wanted when all is completed to pay him and he to send me the files.
        That's the problem - you're simply paying too low. As a freelancer myself, I got tired of people wanting me to do the work for a third of the price - I still accept some of the offers, though, but put them on hold until I finish the higher paying work.

        Offer him a higher price and come to an agreement about the deadline - or wait until he finishes the job...
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      • Profile picture of the author Nino
        If you also didn't gave him any money you hold all the cards man. Just put pressure on him saying that you really need that fast and not to be an a** give him a bump in payment.

        If he refuses then go and search somewhere else ...

        I am willing to bet 1$ that he won't refuse your offer -especially if he translates in his first language and you give him a right amount of time to finish the work (i don't know how big it is)

        Originally Posted by lowriderzzz View Post

        nope - i offered to pay him for the work done and he to send me the files but he wanted when all is completed to pay him and he to send me the files.
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        • Profile picture of the author lowriderzzz
          Originally Posted by Nino View Post

          If you also didn't gave him any money you hold all the cards man. Just put pressure on him saying that you really need that fast and not to be an a** give him a bump in payment.

          If he refuses then go and search somewhere else ...

          I am willing to bet 1$ that he won't refuse your offer -especially if he translates in his first language and you give him a right amount of time to finish the work (i don't know how big it is)
          its a pretty huge work ( about 14 hours of video seminar - basically conversation) and I knew he couldn't be able to finish it for the estimated date but i thought to my self even if it takes a year to finish it it is still a bargain because i keep the product and will sell it life time. The thing is it is almost close to year and he only got half of it done...


          @wanderinglex - well I know its too low and he probably later on figured it out that its too low, (actually its 100 euros for making a subtitles of 13 hours seminar) but he he offered that price first and I even didn't had to negotiate about I just accepted and since then none of us made any comment about it.

          @Alessandro Zamboni - so you don't believe you can outsource good talented people ? what if you pay higher to someone from UK/USA and he still mess the job? You obviously have more experience then me so I'm just asking.
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          • Profile picture of the author Nino
            13 hours of each word translation for 100 euro? Damn...

            I wouldn't do this in 20 years for 100 euro.

            Then you should more than give him a bump in price.... if he already did half of the job and he didn't ask for advance money that means he's a good guy. I would give him 300 euro for finishing the job. (he probably could use the money if he has a kid coming)

            Let's face it... if you post a freelancer work now, you will pay a lot, even for half of those 13 hours. Why not be a good person and give the money to the right person?

            Originally Posted by lowriderzzz View Post

            its a pretty huge work ( about 14 hours of video seminar - basically conversation) and I knew he couldn't be able to finish it for the estimated date but i thought to my self even if it takes a year to finish it it is still a bargain because i keep the product and will sell it life time. The thing is it is almost close to year and he only got half of it done... @wanderinglex - well I know its too low and he probably later on figured it out that its too low, (actually its 100 euros for making a subtitles of 13 hours seminar) but he he offered that price first and I even didn't had to negotiate about I just accepted and since then none of us made any comment about it.
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            • Profile picture of the author lowriderzzz
              Originally Posted by Nino View Post

              13 hours of each word translation for 100 euro? Damn...

              I wouldn't do this in 20 years for 100 euro.

              Then you should more than give him a bump in price.... if he already did half of the job and he didn't ask for advance money that means he's a good guy. I would give him 300 euro for finishing the job. (he probably could use the money if he has a kid coming)

              Let's face it... if you post a freelancer work now, you will pay a lot, even for half of those 13 hours. Why not be a good person and give the money to the right person?
              yes he is skilled - I've seen some of the work and it was good - grammar and stuff.
              Well I can afford to pay a little more. But as I said he doesn't wants being payed in advance.

              do you think your first message about "hey lets help each other" will be OK the way you composed it.
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  • Finding a good freelancer is like winning lottery. And if you target low-price people, percentage of success lowdown.
    I use Freelancer.com portal and I was lucky to find good people who help me anytime I need, but I never target people from other countries than UK and US.

    They ask a little more, but it's justified, I think.
    A dear friend of me, who wants ecommerce websites built, has thrown away a lot of cash in outsourcing with low quality people.

    I hope this could save you time and money, and give in exchange more free time to you!

    See you soon,
    Alessandro
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    • Profile picture of the author damor23
      Thank you for the information to try freelancer.com. You are so correct in avoiding cheap prices. I am in the process of getting a decent site built, paying a little extra will save me not olny money but heartache and dissapointment.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nino
    Considering the fact that you are waiting for this to generate money... IMO the faster the better, even if it's a bit more expensive.

    It's your choice though... Make some math... see how much are you willing and make the offer... Don't waste time because chances are he might stall you another year if you don't put your leg in the door.
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    • Profile picture of the author lowriderzzz
      Originally Posted by Nino View Post

      Considering the fact that you are waiting for this to generate money... IMO the faster the better, even if it's a bit more expensive.

      It's your choice though... Make some math... see how much are you willing and make the offer... Don't waste time because chances are he might stall you another year if you don't put your leg in the door.
      that's sounds reasonable. i will offer him this and see what the result be. either way I haven't paid in advance but in this case time seems to reflect on money/income.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
    I agree with Nino man.
    When I hire freelancers I can be pretty harsh, but it's a buyer's market these days.

    I'd suggest the same, just threaten to walk, my guess is he'll come thru.
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  • Profile picture of the author trewith3
    This is a suggestion,
    Set clear and measurable goals; clear responsibility for a complete, or at least defined, task; job enrichment; tasks performed in the work itself; and recognition for the achievement works that is already done. However, explain a clear expectations that provide a picture of the outcomes desired with goal setting and feedback and an appropriate structure or framework. According to Susan M. Heathfield, from About.com Guide, effective employee feedback is specific, not general. For example, say, "The report that you turned in yesterday was well-written, understandable, and made your points about the budget very effectively." Don't say, "good report."
    Useful feedback always focuses on a specific behavior, not on a person or their intentions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    It's almost been a year?

    You want to be the first on the market?

    It sounds like you have a tough situation to deal with.

    There isn't an easy solution to this, but I think it's time to cut your losses.

    Find someone else to do it, and get it out on the market. The money you make selling the product will offset the extra amount you spend to get your job finished in a timely manner.

    Let me ask you this: How much money do you think you would have made by now if the job were done a year ago? You saved money up front, but you lost more in wasted time and lost sales.

    Consider it a lesson learned and move forward. The sooner, the better.

    All the best,
    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Perhaps you can offer him extra money. That is often an incentive to us. Often people will put you on a back burner if they have some serious issues.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by lowriderzzz View Post

    On the other hand the price that I arranged to pay him is ridiculously small for that service, but sees that the payoff is taking too long in time.
    What do you expect for a ridiculously small price? Do you really think working for peanuts is motivating? It doesn't motivate me.

    You want to motivate him? Offer him a nice big bonus and follow up and give it to him for completion by a reasonable date (reasonable for the amount of work that you gave him to do).
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  • Profile picture of the author alpinewood
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    try more money next time, money talks after all
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  • Profile picture of the author lowriderzzz
    Originally Posted by gpwilson View Post

    You are right. It is possible to cancel this project right now. All you can do is to discuss with him directly. Give him a reasonable certain amount of time. And another think is that do not create any pressure on him. People do not like to work under pressure.
    I know this about the pressure. I don't create pressure on him. I contact him once maximum twice a month to check the progress. . I came with the conclusion to pa him more and set a clear reasonable deadline. I just want some tips on how to compose the overall offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I would fire this guy and find someone else to do the work you need.
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      Seriously, move on to the next person, though this time, don't make the same mistakes...
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  • Profile picture of the author eugenedm
    You should find someone, give them a better pay so they work faster. Money is a great motivator, you know. If you want fast and quality service be prepared to pay more.
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