Newbie entering world of Internet Marketing

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Hi guys,

First I want to say that I am very impressed about this forum. I have read a lot of the threads and found some interesting information.

Now, what I am here for: I am interested about internet marketing but don't know anything about it yet. That's why sites like the one from George Brown really appeal to me because it is supposed to learn you how to use internet marketing. But since I am very new to this stuff I don't really trust this kind of sites and would like to learn more about if before I start investing in ways of internet marketing that just seem to be too good to be true.

If this is not the place to ask, just let me know and excuse me. I am really eager to learn and would love to begin using internet marketing (/affiliate marketing)

So is there anyone who can tell me where to learn the basics of this interesting stuff? I have looked all over the internet and only came across sites like Googlesniper.

I saw someone replying on a thread that this forum is the place to be.

Again, if I'm doing this totally wrong, let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
    Originally Posted by Refreshment View Post

    I saw someone replying on a thread that this forum is the place to be.
    That's right. You can learn a lot here and from the people who participate. There are a lot of people who share really useful information here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacob Pionke
      Warrior Forum is a great place to start learning Internet Marketing,best advice i can give you is "don't spend to much time re-searching, but take action"
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      • Profile picture of the author shelahc
        Originally Posted by Jacob Pionke View Post

        Warrior Forum is a great place to start learning Internet Marketing,best advice i can give you is "don't spend to much time re-searching, but take action"
        Take action yes, but don't jump out and shoot yourself in the foot due to lack knowledge on the basics. I'm a newbie as well so I can relate to what Tom is saying. Fortunately I have an awesome coach (my son) as well as others here to learn from.

        There are some great people here in this forum with tons of knowledge & experience. Interestingly everyone tends to do a little something different than another. What works for one may not for the other and it's good to see the variety and note what may work for me .
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        • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
          Originally Posted by shelahc View Post

          Take action yes, but don't jump out and shoot yourself in the foot due to lack knowledge on the basics. I'm a newbie as well so I can relate to what Tom is saying. Fortunately I have an awesome coach (my son) as well as others here to learn from.

          There are some great people here in this forum with tons of knowledge & experience. Interestingly everyone tends to do a little something different than another. What works for one may not for the other and it's good to see the variety and note what may work for me .
          Yeah I am working on learning the basics as much as possible, would like to take some action soon tho.
          Good to hear you have your son to coach you.

          Everybody has his own way of doing things, good to see that and take bits from everyone to make your own.
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  • Profile picture of the author rockong
    Welcome to WF!

    You'll learn a lot here for sure. My biggest advice to you is to "stay away from the shining objects" in the WSO section. Don't waste your money on junk WSO - take your time to learn who the reputable merchants are.

    Best of luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Moore
      Originally Posted by rockong View Post

      Welcome to WF!

      You'll learn a lot here for sure. My biggest advice to you is to "stay away from the shining objects" in the WSO section. Don't waste your money on junk WSO - take your time to learn who the reputable merchants are.

      Best of luck!
      I couldn't agree more!
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    Thanks for the fast replies guys, good to see this forum is active.

    I really want to take action, but don't have a clue where to start...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacob Pionke
      Originally Posted by Refreshment View Post

      Thanks for the fast replies guys, good to see this forum is active.

      I really want to take action, but don't have a clue where to start...
      Well i will be honest with you and say that the first ever sale i made was using a coaching program called DotComSecretsX (Type it in google, and you will find it). I think its very important to have someone to guide you, mainly to guide you to your first sale, because from there everything is down the hill. The reason i choose that one is because its by Russel Brunson(I think thats how you spell it :p), and its only $1 ! Yeah $1 for your first month ! So it doesn't require much investment.

      But if you dont want to spend any money what so ever then the answers are all here, on warrior forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author fiverrfreak
    You are in the right forum, its a place where people are very active and are ready to help you out by giving you answers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Hi Tom,

      I am a noob just like you so I will find it interesting to see the replies here. I have no idea where to start either.

      I have looked at Google Sniper also and I am trying as hard as I can to "take action" but I can't get past the keyword search part. I am doing everything George said and just can't get any keyword searches within the parameters that he suggests.

      I won't' hijack your thread by asking about it here but hopefully if you found anything you can let me know. I guess we can try to stumble through this together buddy!
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulSolid
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    My advice for you is to be FOCUS. There are lots of programs and businesses online but you will need to FOCUS on one at a time. is it affiliate, blogging, service providing, list building etc. just pict one of them, browse this WF and get all the details needed for it and the next part is start ACTING ON THEM. Welcome On board. As your sound, Just Keep Refreshing yourself here.
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  • Profile picture of the author James.N
    The key is to focus on one thing and make sure you master that before moving on. Too many people spread themselves too thin or try spinning too many plates at one. Work on website, get traffic to it, make money from it before you move on to the next project. It can become overwhelming with all the acronyms and various ways to get traffic, make money, etc. A lot of ways require money such as ppc ads, media buys, solo ads. SEO is the cheapest way to get started.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shubh Ashish
    Welcome to the forum.I guarantee you'll get a Refreshment here as your name says.At the some time yo will make some nice amount of cash.
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  • Profile picture of the author doityourself
    Lots of people say take action and i personally do not subscribe to this train of thought.

    The first thing you can do is read and get an idea what you are getting into before steaming ahead. This is important because when I first started (and I'm still sort of a newbie) the promotional part of internet marketing was a horrifying experience and now that I have certain tools, my life in affiliate marketing is a lot less stressful and a lot more fun. Goodluck
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by doityourself View Post

      Lots of people say take action and i personally do not subscribe to this train of thought.

      The first thing you can do is read and get an idea what you are getting into before steaming ahead. This is important because when I first started (and I'm still sort of a newbie) the promotional part of internet marketing was a horrifying experience and now that I have certain tools, my life in affiliate marketing is a lot less stressful and a lot more fun. Goodluck
      Personally I am trying to get started in affiliate marketing. Tried it ones, basically stumbling in the dark, with a video game time code company website, and made a few dollars. I think literally like $3.

      As I said I am trying Google Sniper but is that where I should be starting? Is it's advice dead now? Can someone point me in either a better direction or a direction that will compliment what I have learned?
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraLarkin
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    You will need to attempt to find newbie - "step by step" threads. They exist around here, and are extremely helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by SandraLarkin View Post

      You will need to attempt to find newbie - "step by step" threads. They exist around here, and are extremely helpful.
      Any particular threads you recommend?
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuke
    Welcome! My advice is to pick one model and stay focus until you start to see results!
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  • Profile picture of the author s0fia
    I'm a newbie just like you. Good advice, just put away your money for now and read the posts from the beginning and then you can buy the resources you need.
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelplies
    You should read more blogs and all the articles you can find right here on WF.
    Good luck by the way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by michaelplies View Post

      You should read more blogs and all the articles you can find right here on WF.
      Good luck by the way.
      Thanks for the advice. Any particular blogs or threads you recommend for affiliate marketing?
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      • Profile picture of the author michaelplies
        Originally Posted by Blackman75 View Post

        Thanks for the advice. Any particular blogs or threads you recommend for affiliate marketing?
        sure, just check the link in my signature.
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  • Profile picture of the author danthadj
    this is really an awesome place to learn
    i recommend you start building a blog with wordpress so you can get your name out there

    look for your NAME.com

    great way to start


    dan
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by danthadj View Post

      this is really an awesome place to learn
      i recommend you start building a blog with wordpress so you can get your name out there

      look for your NAME.com

      great way to start


      dan
      Thanks for the advice Dan. Can you go into a bit more detail as to how that would help?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Gray
    Hi welcome to the forum

    My advice is simple...

    Read as much as you can, figure out what area/s you would like to work in then find an excellent coach in that field and get on his one to one coaching if you can.

    I wish I had known this when I first started, an excellent coach makes all the difference, saves you time, lost effort and money.

    Good luck to you,

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by Mark Gray View Post

      Hi welcome to the forum

      My advice is simple...

      Read as much as you can, figure out what area/s you would like to work in then find an excellent coach in that field and get on his one to one coaching if you can.

      I wish I had known this when I first started, an excellent coach makes all the difference, saves you time, lost effort and money.

      Good luck to you,

      Mark
      Thanks Mark. I am searching and getting a headache trying to figure out where to start. I am interested in affiliate marketing for now and CPA eventually. Suggestions?
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      • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
        Wow I am flabbergasted about all the positive replies you guys are giving me. I love this forum already. I will be reading everything and will try to absorb all the information that is heading my way.

        Step by step threads would be awesome, or a coach to guide me. I will be searching for that kind of threads. If you guys have any recommendations on these kind of threads, please let me know.

        I will be swimming in information, some guiding would be lovely.
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        • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
          Originally Posted by Refreshment View Post

          Wow I am flabbergasted about all the positive replies you guys are giving me. I love this forum already. I will be reading everything and will try to absorb all the information that is heading my way.

          Step by step threads would be awesome, or a coach to guide me. I will be searching for that kind of threads. If you guys have any recommendations on these kind of threads, please let me know.

          I will be swimming in information, some guiding would be lovely.
          I would be interested in this information also.
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          Originally Posted by Refreshment View Post

          Wow I am flabbergasted about all the positive replies you guys are giving me. I love this forum already. I will be reading everything and will try to absorb all the information that is heading my way.

          Step by step threads would be awesome, or a coach to guide me. I will be searching for that kind of threads. If you guys have any recommendations on these kind of threads, please let me know.

          I will be swimming in information, some guiding would be lovely.
          We are all constantly learning as the markets shift all the time! Our advice: BE SOCIAL! Social media outlets... Good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author ryanreynolds
        Originally Posted by Blackman75 View Post

        Thanks Mark. I am searching and getting a headache trying to figure out where to start. I am interested in affiliate marketing for now and CPA eventually. Suggestions?
        If you're looking into affiliate marketing and CPA my first advice is going to be learn how to build a website. Eventually you will outsource this but in the beginning it is going to be imperative to learn these tasks yourself. Affiliate sales and CPA rely a lot on split testing and optimizing the campaigns. So learn how to do that effectively also.

        I am trying to recall a good course I came across a while back regarding CPA, it was called something along the lines of "Rags to Riches" by a fellow named Ken I believe.

        I generally recommend finding a mentor over buying a course, though. Usually actually seeing how someone else makes lots of money will drastically decrease the learning curve.

        Its all about perception. If you generally hang around people who are always broke then that becomes the norm for you and you can't possibly fathom what its like to earn lots of money. Try hanging around someone who makes 10K per day and see what that does for how you perceive the term rich. I know it was a life changer for me and revealed the one thing that had been holding me back: mindset.

        Best of luck to you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
          Originally Posted by ryanreynolds View Post

          If you're looking into affiliate marketing and CPA my first advice is going to be learn how to build a website. Eventually you will outsource this but in the beginning it is going to be imperative to learn these tasks yourself. Affiliate sales and CPA rely a lot on split testing and optimizing the campaigns. So learn how to do that effectively also.

          I am trying to recall a good course I came across a while back regarding CPA, it was called something along the lines of "Rags to Riches" by a fellow named Ken I believe.

          I generally recommend finding a mentor over buying a course, though. Usually actually seeing how someone else makes lots of money will drastically decrease the learning curve.

          Its all about perception. If you generally hang around people who are always broke then that becomes the norm for you and you can't possibly fathom what its like to earn lots of money. Try hanging around someone who makes 10K per day and see what that does for how you perceive the term rich. I know it was a life changer for me and revealed the one thing that had been holding me back: mindset.

          Best of luck to you.
          I do have some experience building a website. It was junk but did earn me a few bucks. Who would you recommend as a mentor?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Gray
    Blackman75 - I recommend John Thornhills affiliate marketing course. I haven't used it myself but he is my coach/mentor and his partnership 2 success course has changed my life.
    Top notch, no BS coaching.

    Check out warrior forum for other recommendations and testimonials for johns courses.

    Thanks

    Mark

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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Thanks Mark. Also thanks to trotterstraders, since I couldn't PM him.
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  • Profile picture of the author canada94
    Welcome Tom

    You first have to know where you want to go,follow a proven system and follow it through until you start to make money...do not fall for the 'magic bullet' and jump ship every time something else comes along.
    If I can be of any help leave me a message on my blog and I will get back to you.

    Hope this helps

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  • Profile picture of the author ebusinesstutor
    The first step is to identify an audience that needs help in a niche where you can stand out. An Internet marketing coach can help you with this.

    Just doing what everyone else is doing with affiliate programs will doom you to failure. You need to find what is "uniquely you."
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by ebusinesstutor View Post

      The first step is to identify an audience that needs help in a niche where you can stand out. An Internet marketing coach can help you with this.

      Just doing what everyone else is doing with affiliate programs will doom you to failure. You need to find what is "uniquely you."
      FANTASTIC advice and I am in the process of doing that. While trying to find out what is uniquely me I am trying to get "something" started.

      IE I have in the past done retail sales and call center sales (inbound) and every good sales person MUST develop their own sales "personality" which may or may not be who they are outside of the job but it is definitely a personality related to who they are outside the job and is uniquely them.

      When I started I had absolutely no experience though and I had no idea how to find that personality that was uniquely me. I was however given a good base to find out and given products and told how to sell those products. I also had managers that helped me to find my sales personality and develop it.

      Right now I am looking for how and where to start. I really want to get something started so I am stuck with relying on the examples I have learned from Google Sniper 2.0 and trying to adopt them as my own for now and then learn from any mistakes I might make.

      Perhaps that is a big mistake but for now I am not sure where else to start.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Kohler
    Welcome!

    This is a great forum. George Brown does have a great system. Essentially, anything that can go viral is a great place to start.

    For instance, I just created a video, and drove some traffic to it. It was a funny video, but it went viral. I did a few things to make it search engine friendly (like adding an article with LSI Keywords and made it interesting to read). But it was the video that got people going. Right now, after 10 days, its at 1.2 million views. Fun stuff. So that's the direction I would go in. Viral is good!
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by Michael Kohler View Post

      Welcome!

      This is a great forum. George Brown does have a great system. Essentially, anything that can go viral is a great place to start.

      For instance, I just created a video, and drove some traffic to it. It was a funny video, but it went viral. I did a few things to make it search engine friendly (like adding an article with LSI Keywords and made it interesting to read). But it was the video that got people going. Right now, after 10 days, its at 1.2 million views. Fun stuff. So that's the direction I would go in. Viral is good!
      This is another fantastic idea. I have had some experience making videos in the past and I had fun doing it. I don't necessarily expect you to post your video link here (I understand not wanting the "whole world" to know your secrets )

      But would you consider sending me a PM with a link so I could watch and learn from it? If so thanks in advance since I don't yet have the required 50 posts to PM you back.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
    Hi

    I don't agree that you should read lots of stuff before getting started, you will learn more from any mistakes and you only need the budget for a domain and cheap hosting.

    In the long term building a list is the way to go but building affiliate sites is a good way to get started.

    There are some good tips in this thread below from another warrior and a free pdf guide.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...uin-panda.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Ronnie44
      There are 100's of ways to make money online. Like others have said, choose one, focus all your attention on it & learn as much as you can.

      I found brokering to be the easiest way to start, & that's all I do at the moment & make a nice living from it. I even outsource the outsourcing so I do very little work really.

      One thing I will say though, whatever service you provide, be 100% honest, 100% reliable & you'll get plenty of repeat customers.
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      • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
        Originally Posted by Ronnie44 View Post

        There are 100's of ways to make money online. Like others have said, choose one, focus all your attention on it & learn as much as you can.

        I found brokering to be the easiest way to start, & that's all I do at the moment & make a nice living from it. I even outsource the outsourcing so I do very little work really.

        One thing I will say though, whatever service you provide, be 100% honest, 100% reliable & you'll get plenty of repeat customers.
        Can you PM me with some more information on how I might get started in "brokering" and what all might be involved?
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by Kevin McNally View Post

      Hi

      I don't agree that you should read lots of stuff before getting started, you will learn more from any mistakes and you only need the budget for a domain and cheap hosting.

      In the long term building a list is the way to go but building affiliate sites is a good way to get started.

      There are some good tips in this thread below from another warrior and a free pdf guide.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...uin-panda.html
      This is my way of thinking. I don't know much about list building and plan to look into it later but for now I would like to get started building affiliate sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenschofield
    Welcome to the warrior forum and I wish you all the best learning internet marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    This is definitely the place to be if you want to learn internet marketing. You will probably wind up buying a few products on here (called a "WSO"... Warrior Special Offer), and being a newbie, I'm sure that you'll find the first few products that you come across as "new". But not all WSO's are truly worthy, so don't buy everything at once.
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    Since I'm a total newbie I have to start from scratch. I find Affiliate marketing very interesting but apparently there are more ways of IM to make good money. Weird question; So it is true that people make a lot of money with this kind of marketing?

    So I have to learn how to make a site, and then implement Affiliate marketing on it. That's why a full guide is very appealing to me. I think that's the reason why IM beginners buy guides like the one from George Brown.

    So tell me, is there a way I can learn everything from the bottum up, without having to pay for some fancy looking guide? I don't mind paying tho, just want to learn everything without having the focus on the big money they talk about.

    There is so much information here that it's very hard to have a good overview. I will have to get used to the forums.
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  • Profile picture of the author nav123
    My word of advice is to invest your time and money wisely and make sure you don't regret failing. Instead learn from it. Failure is path to success. I would also recommend you to get a mentor whose expert in affiliate marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    I would love to have a mentor, how to find one?

    Working on learning how to build a website now...
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    Just what I needed
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    • Profile picture of the author sebtanic
      Hi Refreshment,

      I recommend a training program called "The Challenge", it's very good at teaching you the basics and it's totally free.

      You can find it at challenge dot co (just co, not com mind you).

      I'm a newbie myself and still struggling to make my first $1, but this course has definitely helped me to get started.
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    Sounds good, but the weird thing is that I have to sign up for webinars or something at specific times?
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    create an authority site, focus on branding and valuable content. Put on page/off page SEO on your second tier of importance.

    IF YOU BUILD IT RIGHT THEY WILL COME!

    Here is thread I made about zombie profits that kinda spells out what I mean: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...king-dead.html
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    • Profile picture of the author sebtanic
      Right, the webinar, I forgot all about that!

      Truth is, they want you to sign up so they can send you an occasional email (not a lot though).

      I think I actually never got around to watching the webinar really lol... Not sure why they do these webinars at fixed times, doesn't really make sense to me. It almost put me off as well, but I decided to give it a go anyway as a good friend of mine had recommened it to me. I did complete the course and it has a lot of valuable information.

      The rest of the course you can do at your own pace, it is designed to be done a day at a time investing a minimum of 30 minutes a day, for 7 weeks. Be warned that often you will be busy for a lot longer than 30 minutes if you want to do things well.

      I can definitely recommend this course as it doesn't cost you anything except your email address, and it gives you pretty good, structured approach. They do offer you software that they would get commission for if you purchase it, but I did the whole course without buying anything. (well at least I am giving them some free publicity here in exchange lol)

      I believe you could even just click on the "member's access" link on the top of the page, it doesn't seem to require a password... but really no harm in signing up for it, and forget about the webinar, it's not strictly necessary.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanreynolds
      Originally Posted by Kevin McNally View Post

      Hi

      I don't agree that you should read lots of stuff before getting started, you will learn more from any mistakes and you only need the budget for a domain and cheap hosting.

      In the long term building a list is the way to go but building affiliate sites is a good way to get started.

      There are some good tips in this thread below from another warrior and a free pdf guide.
      Nice tip, right on point. 100% this.

      That, and product creation.

      Building a list is critical if you want to actually consider it a business. If you wait until you are 100% ready and comfortable with taking action you will never do anything. You have to venture outside your comfort zone if you want to prosper.

      "Fortune favors the bold" - quote by someone I don't remember.

      Originally Posted by sebtanic View Post

      Hi Refreshment,

      I recommend a training program called "The Challenge", it's very good at teaching you the basics and it's totally free.

      You can find it at challenge dot co (just co, not com mind you).

      I'm a newbie myself and still struggling to make my first $1, but this course has definitely helped me to get started.
      I agree this is a good course. Ed is a super guy with much knowledge to share. Make no mistake though he is a great businessman as well. His free training is the entry way into his sales funnel. No doubt though the Challenge contains a vast amount of information for beginners.

      Originally Posted by Blackman75 View Post

      I do have some experience building a website. It was junk but did earn me a few bucks. Who would you recommend as a mentor?
      I'd be happy to show you my first website and have a friendly competition for whose website is the ugliest.. lol

      As for what mentor to recommend, this is a good question and it would depend on your budget and what path you decide to go down, and how much you already know. This place looks to be crawling with tons of good information. Much like the forums I come from, you need to be cautious, but find a couple people that you can trust and soak up every word they say. Don't be afraid to ask questions because we've all been in your shoes at one point in our careers. And thats why people come to forums; to offer up their advice and experience. Good luck to you.
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      I agree with aizaku, funny I don't care about Zombies at all, but I too have a Zombie website, the hardest thing was finding a subject matter expert so the articles and videos were actually appealing!
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    Reading all the links you guys post:

    Soo any more of those usefull links?
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    For the people who PM'd me, thanks for the help! Can't reply so that's why I post it here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    I was just going to write a reply on The Challenge.

    It is awesome, checked some of the lessons and I love it. Will be checking it from beginning to end as soon as possible. They explain everything very well, even I can understand it.

    Have to get used to the fact that there is some paying involved in these lessons.

    So my question: I guess paying for hosting and domains is required for these lessons, even when just starting? (which brings me to a silly question; are all these payments easy to stop when wanted (for example: hosting for a month, stays hosting for a month? and buying a domain which you have to pay for yearly, can be stopped after a year?))
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    • Profile picture of the author sebtanic
      Well I bought a domain & hosting for one year. I think that is the minimum amount of time.

      If I remember correctly, when I signed up for the domain I had the option to either renew the contract automatically after a year, or to default to let it expire unless i renew explicitly.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanreynolds
      [QUOTE

      So my question: I guess paying for hosting and domains is required for these lessons, even when just starting? (which brings me to a silly question; are all these payments easy to stop when wanted (for example: hosting for a month, stays hosting for a month? and buying a domain which you have to pay for yearly, can be stopped after a year?))[/QUOTE]

      yes a domain and paid hosting is required. The hosting if paid month to month is like $9.99 or something like that for the basic plan if I remember right. Hostgator is a good choice for this. You will need to register a domain name which is like $8.99 with my registrar. Some people will say you can get by with using free resources by creating a site on a service like blogger.com or weebly or other web 2.0s. But I don't like this idea because you lose the credibility of having a real domain name. Just my opinion though. I'm sure plenty of people will chime in to disagree with me.

      Yes, the payments for the hosting are easy to stop. I'd suggest paying month to month until you are certain this type of work is the right fit for you. Once you do that you can take advantage of their discount when you pay up front for a whole year of service.

      Domain names will just expire after the year is up provided you dont have it set to "autorenew" by your registrar. NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO- has caught me a few times with this feature when I was unaware of it. Thats one of the reasons why I dont use them (but Im starting to digress... and ramble).
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      • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
        Originally Posted by ryanreynolds View Post

        Domain names will just expire after the year is up provided you dont have it set to "autorenew" by your registrar. NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO- has caught me a few times with this feature when I was unaware of it. Thats one of the reasons why I dont use them (but Im starting to digress... and ramble).
        Do you mean don't auto renew?
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        • Profile picture of the author ryanreynolds
          Originally Posted by Blackman75 View Post

          Do you mean don't auto renew?
          Right, I wouldnt set it to auto renew, but thats just my preference. My registrar sends email start at 45 days before it is going to expire to remind me to re register it. If I leave it up to my memory to cancel (like everything else in my life) then I would forget.
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    Ah oke, that sounds fair
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    So guys, the last couple of days the WSO forum is starting to become really appealing to me. Is there any (very) newbie guide that you guys could recommend to start using and get some experience with making money on the internet? I saw a guide about selling domains on flippa for example.

    Just to get some experience with making money online while reading and learning stuff about AM.
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    *Full guide explaining everything from scratch
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  • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
    I guarantee you my first site was ugliest! LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanreynolds
      Originally Posted by Blackman75 View Post

      I guarantee you my first site was ugliest! LOL
      Well, if I had to bet, i'd definitely put money on my site being the worst. ANd I am a gambling man..As a matter of fact even today I'd probably bet that my sites are uglier.

      You got me curious now. I'll have a look at the waybackmachine and see what I can conjure up.
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      • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
        Originally Posted by ryanreynolds View Post

        Well, if I had to bet, i'd definitely put money on my site being the worst. ANd I am a gambling man..As a matter of fact even today I'd probably bet that my sites are uglier.

        You got me curious now. I'll have a look at the waybackmachine and see what I can conjure up.
        Me to. Going to see if I can dig up my first attempt.
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      • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
        Originally Posted by ryanreynolds View Post

        Well, if I had to bet, i'd definitely put money on my site being the worst. ANd I am a gambling man..As a matter of fact even today I'd probably bet that my sites are uglier.

        You got me curious now. I'll have a look at the waybackmachine and see what I can conjure up.
        Ok found it! I'll show you mine if you show me yours! LOL Wait...that sounded kind of creepy.
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        • Profile picture of the author ryanreynolds
          Originally Posted by Blackman75 View Post

          Ok found it! I'll show you mine if you show me yours! LOL Wait...that sounded kind of creepy.
          yes, yes a bit it did.. lol

          Moving on...... my very very first site was done about 2 and a half years ago. It was a forum about relationships. I had no clue what I was doing. This was before I found any forums to learn from, before I knew anything about keyword relativity, etc... just a stupid idea I had at the time. I promoted it on facebook and got a few people to register but it never took off. I can see now the error of my ways. But it goes to show that you actually do learn by taking action and learning from your mistakes.

          That is why I'm not ashamed to tell people about my failures. Everyone has them, even the "gurus". But I doubt you will hear FK's or Jeff Paul's old war stories on here.

          I can't seem to get it to come up on the archives. PM me and I'll share the url.(Remember I'm not ashamed...to share..over PM that is! ) My post count is too low to PM yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pserah
    As a writer by trade I am very interested in anything to do with Kindle (and Nook, but that doesn't seem to be nearly as popular). I don't mean to hijack your thread or anything but do any of you seasoned Warriors have some good info on Kindle related stuff and marketing?

    Thanks,
    Pserah
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  • Profile picture of the author ArranWood
    WOW, you really have hit a nerve with this post...
    Ok here's my two penny's worth of advice. Ignore 99% of the advice you will be given!

    Granted you ARE on the best forum for Internet Marketing, but still so many people on here are peddling the same stuff just reworded and repackaged.

    The first thing I feel you should do is affiliate marketing, I know lots will argue against that (and of course many for it too, but here's why...
    Affiliate marketing is by far the easiest way to start the ball rolling, much better than selling your own products off the block.

    Try and find a product that you know something about, then find a supplier of that product and find the affiliate program that works with that supplier. Once you have done that, you can spend time NOT money marketing the product.

    You will get stuck, you will wonder off for the greener grass for other products, but when you come back to the first product stick with it.

    Finally don't affiliate with anything unless you get serious money per sale. a MINIMUM, I will say that again a MINIMUM of $50 per sale. If you do anything for less, you will find yourself fighting an uphill battle.

    Finally whatever you do choose to do ONLY do it for 1/2 months, then step back and you will understand much more and be able to focus on important things such as recurring income, and list building. but for now, I would recommend the steps above, it really will open your eyes and cost you much less than jumping in at the deep end.

    I am online most days and I am more than happy to help you. Not as a Mentor, not as a Coach, just as someone who has been there and fell down every hole along the way.

    Best regards
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanreynolds
      Originally Posted by ArranWood View Post

      Finally don't affiliate with anything unless you get serious money per sale. a MINIMUM, I will say that again a MINIMUM of $50 per sale. If you do anything for less, you will find yourself fighting an uphill battle.

      Finally whatever you do choose to do ONLY do it for 1/2 months, then step back and you will understand much more and be able to focus on important things such as recurring income, and list building. but for now, I would recommend the steps above, it really will open your eyes and cost you much less than jumping in at the deep end.

      I am online most days and I am more than happy to help you. Not as a Mentor, not as a Coach, just as someone who has been there and fell down every hole along the way.

      Best regards
      Arran Wood

      Just to offer up a counter argument to this, MOST of the higher paying commissions are promoted by a greater number of people, thus higher competition. If you're relying on search traffic (cheapest method) then its going to be hard to find enough traffic to convert these. Not always the case, but something to consider.

      If you're going the affiliate route check out the Amazon Associates affiliate program. I've had decent success with it for the limited time & effort I've put into it.
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      • Profile picture of the author ArranWood
        Originally Posted by ryanreynolds View Post

        Just to offer up a counter argument to this, MOST of the higher paying commissions are promoted by a greater number of people, thus higher competition. If you're relying on search traffic (cheapest method) then its going to be hard to find enough traffic to convert these. Not always the case, but something to consider.

        If you're going the affiliate route check out the Amazon Associates affiliate program. I've had decent success with it for the limited time & effort I've put into it.
        I agree with you to a very large extent Ryan as regards "The higher paying commissions are promoted by a greater number of people" however this is NOT a bad thing...
        There are easily 1 million different ways/sites etc. to use to promote a product online, so even if there are 100,000 competitions of which less than 10,000 will have the knowledge to promote a product properly; this leaves a massive market to promote and earn commissions.

        The difference I feel anyway between promoting a product for less money is not actually all financial...

        Let me try and give an example here of what I mean, when I started out I would spend hours trudging over the steps to promote something. Then after all was done for the day I would check my affiliate commissions for that day. If it was a "Low Commission - High Demand" I may have seen 5 or 6 x $5.00 payments for that day’s work. But of course I knew that the work I had just done would result in sales for days or even weeks after. So the best I could do is judge what I made that day then times that by the time I expected to earn from the work I did. Of course that's great but looking at 5 x $5.00 payments for a whole days work, hardly made it seem worthwhile.

        On the other side of the coin, when I was promoting a "High Commission - Low Demand" product for the day as above, then I checked my affiliate commissions at the end of that day and seen just 1 or 2 sales @ $50.00 each. I was really over the moon and would have to fight myself to walk away from the computer and call it a day. I was so eager to open my computer the next day just to see if I had made sales.

        Greed also plays a BIG and POSITIVE part in affiliate marketing (again in my opinion) I really became greedy after a few months in respect of the number of sales I made in a day. If I had only made 1 or 2 sales I would get very annoyed try to learn another method that could pull me in that extra sale or two every day (Warrior is great for this by the way). Of course the nature of “Greed” is there is never enough, so one or two extra sales soon became five or six and so on, until I was earning far more from my “online knowledge” than I could earn here in the real world.


        Enough of my life story, sorry Ryan (and others who read this) but I just wanted to give a clear reason why I said to the self-proclaiming newbie to ONLY promote products with commissions over $50.00 per sale.
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        • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
          Originally Posted by ArranWood View Post

          I agree with you to a very large extent Ryan as regards "The higher paying commissions are promoted by a greater number of people" however this is NOT a bad thing...
          There are easily 1 million different ways/sites etc. to use to promote a product online, so even if there are 100,000 competitions of which less than 10,000 will have the knowledge to promote a product properly; this leaves a massive market to promote and earn commissions.

          The difference I feel anyway between promoting a product for less money is not actually all financial...

          Let me try and give an example here of what I mean, when I started out I would spend hours trudging over the steps to promote something. Then after all was done for the day I would check my affiliate commissions for that day. If it was a "Low Commission - High Demand" I may have seen 5 or 6 x $5.00 payments for that day’s work. But of course I knew that the work I had just done would result in sales for days or even weeks after. So the best I could do is judge what I made that day then times that by the time I expected to earn from the work I did. Of course that's great but looking at 5 x $5.00 payments for a whole days work, hardly made it seem worthwhile.

          On the other side of the coin, when I was promoting a "High Commission - Low Demand" product for the day as above, then I checked my affiliate commissions at the end of that day and seen just 1 or 2 sales @ $50.00 each. I was really over the moon and would have to fight myself to walk away from the computer and call it a day. I was so eager to open my computer the next day just to see if I had made sales.

          Greed also plays a BIG and POSITIVE part in affiliate marketing (again in my opinion) I really became greedy after a few months in respect of the number of sales I made in a day. If I had only made 1 or 2 sales I would get very annoyed try to learn another method that could pull me in that extra sale or two every day (Warrior is great for this by the way). Of course the nature of “Greed” is there is never enough, so one or two extra sales soon became five or six and so on, until I was earning far more from my “online knowledge” than I could earn here in the real world.


          Enough of my life story, sorry Ryan (and others who read this) but I just wanted to give a clear reason why I said to the self-proclaiming newbie to ONLY promote products with commissions over $50.00 per sale.
          Thanks for the explanation ArranWood!
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  • Profile picture of the author SurrealPSD
    Good stuff being optimistic guys, but the reality is that you could potentially put in 2 years worth of work for no recompense. Often these projects take a while to gather momentum, particularly traffic building.

    Try not to be too bedazzled by success stoies, learn the relevant crafts and keep on trucking. As long as you can accept you may not get immediate results, you'll be all good
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  • Profile picture of the author giljimenez
    Welcome to the world of accountability my friend!
    Let me encourage you and warn you as I wish I would have been!

    You're in a world that will sell you fast, easy, and free! When it's the exact opposite
    for the most part.

    Come in, do your due diligence. Work your butt off. Brand yourself and be better than
    you were they day before.

    Find the reason why you want to do this. Is is for the money? Is it for the fame? Is it for
    your family? Find that reason that will keep you waking up every morning completely
    excited to work, work, and work some more.

    Hit the ground running. Read, apply, then tweak. Get results, then give back to the
    community!

    You can do it, kid!
    Much love and success your way!
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by giljimenez View Post

      Welcome to the world of accountability my friend!
      Let me encourage you and warn you as I wish I would have been!

      You're in a world that will sell you fast, easy, and free! When it's the exact opposite
      for the most part.

      Come in, do your due diligence. Work your butt off. Brand yourself and be better than
      you were they day before.

      Find the reason why you want to do this. Is is for the money? Is it for the fame? Is it for
      your family? Find that reason that will keep you waking up every morning completely
      excited to work, work, and work some more.

      Hit the ground running. Read, apply, then tweak. Get results, then give back to the
      community!

      You can do it, kid!
      Much love and success your way!
      Gil
      Nice comments Gil!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Gray
    I think I may have said this before, but if your serious get a mentor/coach.

    Will save you money, time and kick you in the butt when you need it, in my opinion there simply is no better way to get ahead of the heard.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by Mark Gray View Post

      I think I may have said this before, but if your serious get a mentor/coach.

      Will save you money, time and kick you in the butt when you need it, in my opinion there simply is no better way to get ahead of the heard.

      Mark

      Who do you recommend Mark? Oh and Ryan I sent the link for my site. Try not to laugh too hard buddy.

      PS I don't think you can PM me back even till that post count gets up there. Don't worry, do a lot of reading here and you will find enough to comment on in an hour or two, if you are a blabber mouth like me. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenji
    You're in great hands here. This forum has nearly everything but you've to explore in detail to get to the nuggets.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by Kenji View Post

      You're in great hands here. This forum has nearly everything but you've to explore in detail to get to the nuggets.

      I am beginning to learn that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Gray
    Blackman75 - I recommend my mentor/coach John Thornhill.

    Do some research on him here on WF and ask people about him, you will get only 100% positive feedback of that i am certain.

    Changed my business and the way oi look at my online business.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by Mark Gray View Post

      Blackman75 - I recommend my mentor/coach John Thornhill.

      Do some research on him here on WF and ask people about him, you will get only 100% positive feedback of that i am certain.

      Changed my business and the way oi look at my online business.

      Mark

      Can I ask how much it costs?
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    +1 on Rockong`s advice
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    Welcome to amazing forum at the world.. Don't forget to read rule first..
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    Thanks for the fast replies guys, good to see this forum is active.
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    I keep saying it but I love all the feedback you guys are giving, really helping me a lot!
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  • Profile picture of the author smkmarketing
    Originally Posted by Refreshment View Post

    Hi guys,

    First I want to say that I am very impressed about this forum. I have read a lot of the threads and found some interesting information.

    Now, what I am here for: I am interested about internet marketing but don't know anything about it yet. That's why sites like the one from George Brown really appeal to me because it is supposed to learn you how to use internet marketing. But since I am very new to this stuff I don't really trust this kind of sites and would like to learn more about if before I start investing in ways of internet marketing that just seem to be too good to be true.

    If this is not the place to ask, just let me know and excuse me. I am really eager to learn and would love to begin using internet marketing (/affiliate marketing)

    So is there anyone who can tell me where to learn the basics of this interesting stuff? I have looked all over the internet and only came across sites like Googlesniper.

    I saw someone replying on a thread that this forum is the place to be.

    Again, if I'm doing this totally wrong, let me know.

    Thanks in advance,

    Tom
    I am new too and I have checked out some products, I did pick a program to work with and I am focusing on that one system and working and learning and DOING. Best of luck to both of us!
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    What program did you pick to focus on? There is too much information for me to make a good choice on whose advice to follow.

    Update: just tried putting my first affiliate link ad on my wordpress blog and it said wordpress doesn't allow affiliate links to be put on your blog. So how do you guys fix this?
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    • Profile picture of the author bkat52
      how much is John Thornhills coaching class? I checked out his site and it looked interesting.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanreynolds
    Originally Posted by Blackman75 View Post

    Who do you recommend Mark? Oh and Ryan I sent the link for my site. Try not to laugh too hard buddy.

    PS I don't think you can PM me back even till that post count gets up there. Don't worry, do a lot of reading here and you will find enough to comment on in an hour or two, if you are a blabber mouth like me. LOL
    haha, yep you're right. I tried to PM you back from my phone last night but I was denied! I checked the site out though. Have to say I had a small laugh (in a good way), only because I could relate 100% thinking back to my first site. The site really isn't that bad. I could at least tell what it was about and make sense of the content. Well now I feel a bit embarrassed since I can't PM you the link yet.

    Originally Posted by ArranWood View Post

    I agree with you to a very large extent Ryan as regards "The higher paying commissions are promoted by a greater number of people" however this is NOT a bad thing...
    There are easily 1 million different ways/sites etc. to use to promote a product online, so even if there are 100,000 competitions of which less than 10,000 will have the knowledge to promote a product properly; this leaves a massive market to promote and earn commissions.
    I agree, and I guess it probably depends on the product you are promoting and what methods you are using.

    My counter argument was just me playing devil's advocate.. and based on gaining some easy victories for the beginner so they don't get discouraged too soon.

    Much like Dave Ramsey's debt snowball approach to pay off smallest debts first in order to recognize progress rather than the debts with the highest interest rates (which would actually cost the least in the long run).

    But I totally get your angle and I think it is a 100% valid way to approach affiliate sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by ryanreynolds View Post

      haha, yep you're right. I tried to PM you back from my phone last night but I was denied! I checked the site out though. Have to say I had a small laugh (in a good way), only because I could relate 100% thinking back to my first site. The site really isn't that bad. I could at least tell what it was about and make sense of the content. Well now I feel a bit embarrassed since I can't PM you the link yet.



      I agree, and I guess it probably depends on the product you are promoting and what methods you are using.

      My counter argument was just me playing devil's advocate.. and based on gaining some easy victories for the beginner so they don't get discouraged too soon.

      Much like Dave Ramsey's debt snowball approach to pay off smallest debts first in order to recognize progress rather than the debts with the highest interest rates (which would actually cost the least in the long run).

      But I totally get your angle and I think it is a 100% valid way to approach affiliate sales.
      LOL Well send it to me once you hit 50. Wow that sounds like MMO lingo! LOL Ryan gets the joke since he's seen my old site.
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  • Profile picture of the author rising_sun
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    Tom congratulation and welcome to the world of IM.
    This is the beginning platform , but it's need only dedication and regularity .

    My only one suggestion is that , please learn a lot before starting and involving it ,
    gather experience and then utilize it.
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  • Profile picture of the author msu
    Pick one thing at a time that you need to learn and focus on just that until you're starting to get it right, then move on to the next thing. The most sensible thing to start with is content, then move on to traffic building.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by msu View Post

      Pick one thing at a time that you need to learn and focus on just that until you're starting to get it right, then move on to the next thing. The most sensible thing to start with is content, then move on to traffic building.

      Simple and to the point but logical.
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  • Profile picture of the author shipwrecked
    To add one very important thing: don't rely on old, obsolete SEO courses and articles. They will not teach you almost anything effective. SEO and internet marketing in general has changed tremendously even during the last year.

    Make sure everything you learn is up-to-date and from the current year: 2012. Of if you go into 2013, then read materials from that year... 2011 already is a bit "out of fashion"...

    Obsolete techniques can be very harmful.
    Most newcomers do plenty of old techniques, because they are reading about them online. And they overdo them, believing that they should put more effort, energy into the techniques they are using. Google will simply penalize them and when they don't see the desired results, they do even more... It's like if they were "digging their own graves"...
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeye
    This is the absolutely right place to start learning. Have a look around, find what you're interested in, and focus on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Hill SEO
    Hi Tom,

    I think the best piece of advice I could give you is to go out and make your own mistakes. While there is an abundance of great tips and information out there; it is easy to become overwhelmed and lose focus on your own goals.

    Do not rush out and waste money on software / tools, there is always a free alternative.

    If you are going to make a success of this then it will require a hell of a lot of work and individuality. I can assure you it is very enjoyable and well worth the effort.

    To quote a line from Ratatouille "not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere"

    Good luck Tom and I hope you find what you are looking for!
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    It has been a long time that I have been so interested in anything like IM. I really hate reading but since I found this forum I am reading stuff day and night. Looking for all the free information I can get and absorbing everything you guys are saying.

    I am very dedicated and willing to put in work for IM, it makes learning fun again. And hopefully profitable too some day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    Any thoughts about newbies joining War Room? I'm thinking about it, seeing a lot of positive stuff about it. Is it good for a newbie to join War Room? Cause that will be my first money spent then..
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    • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
      Originally Posted by Refreshment View Post

      Is it good for a newbie to join War Room?
      Yes, with one caution: there is so much good stuff there that it is easy to get distracted. At first take it in small bites, or you could find yourself lost there for days.

      It's probably the best $37 you'll ever spend on your business.
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      • Profile picture of the author Deb S
        This is a great place to learn. There are so many paths to take in IM from the niche to the traffic method, etc. It can become overwhelming, so do some research and take the advice given here... pick a method and focus on just one at a time.
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  • Profile picture of the author ArranWood
    Well Tom and other self-proclaimed newbies, I am sure this thread has given you some great inspiration and some good advice to boot. Really guys and galls the internet is packed full of money, in fact I would say it's harder to fail than succeed!

    Having said that IF you don't focus on a single system or a single product niche then I can almost guarantee you will fall flat on your faces.

    I hope you take on board the advice that so many have said about keeping focused because distractions are everywhere and not surprisingly so are the failed internet marketers who never stayed focused and lost their time and money dabbling in IM.

    Best regards all
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    • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
      Originally Posted by ArranWood View Post

      Well Tom and other self-proclaimed newbies, I am sure this thread has given you some great inspiration and some good advice to boot. Really guys and galls the internet is packed full of money, in fact I would say it's harder to fail than succeed!

      Having said that IF you don't focus on a single system or a single product niche then I can almost guarantee you will fall flat on your faces.

      I hope you take on board the advice that so many have said about keeping focused because distractions are everywhere and not surprisingly so are the failed internet marketers who never stayed focused and lost their time and money dabbling in IM.

      Best regards all
      Arran Wood
      Yeah, I am very happy that I posted this thread on the forum. Never expected such good responses.

      When I found my way of IM I will focus, have to find my way first tho. Am still working on that.
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    Keep learning and action, but you must find your own formula.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisHer
    I said this before and I'll say it again and again when this issue comes up. Focus on a niche that you care about and in which you are knowledgeable. Provide quality content through a blog and provide quality products that people want to buy. WF can help you a lot with how best to market and get targeted traffic.

    Best, Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author getrichinfo
    remember to create a business plan before jumping into the exciting world internet marketing!
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  • Profile picture of the author DWK
    Quadxnet, I love your "spinning plates" metaphor in describing what not to do as a beginner. You are so right about that. I'm a retired teacher and have been exploring IM possibilities for longer than I intended. I know what it's like to have too many plates going at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author ArranWood
    Me again, sorry if I seem to be dominating this thread, but I have received so many messages asking me to help clarify certain IM terms and provide help, of course I am happy to do so for anyone breaking into the field of IM, but rather than repeat myself in every second message, I will put some info here too.
    Most of the questions focus on two areas:


    1. 1. The niche
    2. 2. The products to promote


    The answers below are the way I see things, they may not be exactly (or remotely) what others see and the answers but that’s the differences in opinions and the terminology should be irrelevant as long as the solution is suitable.

    Within the messages people are mentioning micro-niche, mini-niche and so many other types of niches that they have seen someone mention on other posts. Here’s the way I see things.

    Let’s take “Leisure” as a topic for the sakes of example only, some may call this a niche or some other term but to me it’s a TOPIC.

    Within Leisure you have hundreds of smaller RELATED FIELDS that others may call mini niches. Let’s say for example Fishing, Tennis and swimming as related fields.

    Now down another layer you have the subjects that are often called micro niches that are encompassed within the related fields, again for example you could have fishing rods, fishing reels and fishing hooks all being within the Fishing RELATED FIELD and all again within the TOPIC of Leisure.

    If you wanted to you can even go down yet another two layers, for example a BRAND NAME within that subject, such as Shakespeare fishing rods and Shakespeare fishing reels.

    The final level that is common would be a specific MAKE or a brand, to me this is in MOST cases too excessive in depth (in the case of the example fishing) but for other brands it’s essential; the name Apple 32 gig IPod for example would be one that you WOULD target but some a model like Shakespeare XYZ fishing rod is something you would not.

    Ok I think I have explained what I see as the various levels or niches as some may say, now where should you start????

    The answer is virtually impossible to answer in general, because I have no idea what your personal knowledge is and what your current abilities are. If for example you have been working for a manufacturer of Fork lift trucks and you know all about 3 of their models, I would suggest that you jump straight on that and make some kind of comparison between the models and talk in the terms that fork lift buyers use such as maximum reach and how that would benefit them over and maximum lifting weight. In short if you are this person YOU know what buyers want to read and what makes them buy a truck better than me.

    Of course in the case of fork lift trucks it would be easy to offer a commercial seller some kind of deal where you refer them customers in return for upwards of $50 commissions. Or you can see if they already have some kind of affiliate referral program in place.

    Again taking a step back, if you have been working making fishing hooks, that sell for penny’s then you would NOT want to waste your time promoting them because you would have to make a ridiculous amount of sales just to make it worthwhile. So I say this again as I have many times “High Profit – Low sales” is better for you than “Low Profit- High Sales”.

    Once you have found your product to promote, than and only then should you even think about ways to promote the product. There are so many different ways to promote different products, some need extravagant websites others a simple sales page. Some need no website at all. In my opinion again, you should look for the cheapest option here, as you may discover a little later you did not understand the product as well as you imagined you did not know the market. Once you do make a few sales then following the methods you learnt on Warrior then you can work out your next steps and budget for them.

    I personally have over 300 websites, no two are the same and my approaches to the markets are also equally different on each site. One thing I will say is essential is don’t talk about YOU on the home page. I am sorry if this upsets you, only a handful of people actually care, the vast majority care about the product and what you can do for them, not who you are and why this and why that.

    Anyway enough rattling on, 800 words for a single post is more than enough for even the most dedicated warrior to have to read.


    Best regards all
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    Big thumbs up for you Arran, I dont mind reading 800 words if they are full of useful information.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjaysen70
    yeah as a newbie, you will want to become an affiliate first and then learn how to drive traffic to a landing page. See what traffic converts via tracking and then scale up. Use clickbank and register free there. Those are digital products and are much easier than jumping into the CPA game.
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    Yeah I am focussing on learning how to get my own website up the right way for affiliate marketing.

    So I am focussing on affiliate marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author echelon
    Welcome to the Warrior Forum. This is effectively the place where you could get some pointers about particular internet marketing techniques. The search feature could hep you search many marketing methods as well as products you want to know more about.

    While you may or may not be familiar with some topics, making a search for them could help you gather free information.

    The WSO section is a good place to learn about ways to earn money online. However, really try to be focus on a training from beginning to end. It can be easy to purchase more than one of those training without applying them and have a return on the investment made.
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  • Welcome to WarriorForum!

    You'll learn a lot here for sure.

    Good luck!
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    Welcome to WF!
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  • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
    Great post ArranWood. Yeah a bit long, LOL, but good!
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    Welcome and enjoy! Ask any questions you have and learn as much as you can. There are very knowledgeable people on here.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I know you have heard it 1 thousands times in here, but ok, time to go again.

    1) TAKE ACTION

    2) BUILD LIST

    3) OFFER VALUE

    4) SELL STUFF TO THEM


    Dunno what else you want us in here to keep telling you.

    You keep hearing it and seeing it in here, yet these posts show up time and time and time again.

    Time to take action aint it
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  • Profile picture of the author Rexus
    I am trying to post a reply, no good.........This system is keeping me out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rexus
    There we go. Whatever you do, stay away from George Brown, he is a thief.
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  • Profile picture of the author Avish
    I Would Like To Suggest You To Start From Promoting Affiliate Programs And Products And While You Are Sharing Your Affiliate Link And Convincing People You Will Exactly Learn To Communicate With People In The Real Internet Marketing Manner.. Keep On Growing Your Network In Social Media Sites, In SEO Sources, Do List Building And Signup Some Of The Best Internet Marketing Platforms Just Like WF..

    Do All The Basic Things You Can First.. Build Strong Foundations And Then Go For Something Of Your Own.. This Is The Overall Thing I Can Say.. Never Stop Researching And Take Action On Valuable Things That Can Really Produce You Results..
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    • Profile picture of the author jordianis
      Originally Posted by Avish View Post

      I Would Like To Suggest You To Start From Promoting Affiliate Programs And Products And While You Are Sharing Your Affiliate Link And Convincing People You Will Exactly Learn To Communicate With People In The Real Internet Marketing Manner.. Keep On Growing Your Network In Social Media Sites, In SEO Sources, Do List Building And Signup Some Of The Best Internet Marketing Platforms Just Like WF..

      Do All The Basic Things You Can First.. Build Strong Foundations And Then Go For Something Of Your Own.. This Is The Overall Thing I Can Say.. Never Stop Researching And Take Action On Valuable Things That Can Really Produce You Results..
      This is a great idea for a newbie like myself, thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Avish
        Originally Posted by jordianis View Post

        This is a great idea for a newbie like myself, thanks
        You're Welcome My Friend.. Never Forget To Keep Raising Network.. Set The Better Foundations And You Will Succeed..
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    Yeah that's the spirit. I want to implement the stuff I have learned and learn from that. Keep learning, but practice what I have learned too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    So yeah, now I am working on getting my own site up. So hosting and domain..
    Found some people telling about Hostgator being the best hosting? Also saw something about Hostdeal?

    Choices, choices choices
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  • Profile picture of the author jordianis
    Hi, welcome to the forum, I am also a newbie and would appreciate if someone could point me to a place where I can begin my reading on the topic of affiliate marketing. I already have a clickbank account but how do I go about making my first $ dollar?

    thanks
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  • Originally Posted by Refreshment View Post

    Hi guys,

    First I want to say that I am very impressed about this forum. I have read a lot of the threads and found some interesting information.

    Now, what I am here for: I am interested about internet marketing but don't know anything about it yet. That's why sites like the one from George Brown really appeal to me because it is supposed to learn you how to use internet marketing. But since I am very new to this stuff I don't really trust this kind of sites and would like to learn more about if before I start investing in ways of internet marketing that just seem to be too good to be true.

    If this is not the place to ask, just let me know and excuse me. I am really eager to learn and would love to begin using internet marketing (/affiliate marketing)

    So is there anyone who can tell me where to learn the basics of this interesting stuff? I have looked all over the internet and only came across sites like Googlesniper.

    I saw someone replying on a thread that this forum is the place to be.

    Again, if I'm doing this totally wrong, let me know.

    Thanks in advance,

    Tom
    Just a little something I wrote up and thought I'd share with you guys. I usually turn this kind of stuff into ebooks but I decided to be nice and crack it out with a few paragraphs.

    Clickbank products aren't the easiest things in the world to convert so I'm going to help you guys out by letting you know how I promote those products. You will see your hops increase dramatically and hopefully you'll get some conversions out of it.

    The first thing you need to do is sign into Clickbank and go to the marketplace to find products that you want to promote. Facebook is becoming more and more popular by the minute so I would start with those. If they don't convert well for you, try my tactics on other products that you think will sell better.

    People who use Facebook usually play the games or use an app that requires you to play certain games in order to "unlock" something in the app. So start by browsing the Clickbank marketplace for Facebook game products. If all else fails, just search for the two most popular games on Facebook - Mafia Wars and Farmville. For me, Mafia Wars converts better. The product that converts the best for me would be Mafia Wars Annihilation. Go to the marketplace and search for it. Now that you have your product chosen, get the promotion link/your affiliate link. Copy and paste it into Notepad for easy access.

    For the next part, you are going to need a Twitter account that has at least 50 followers. You yourself are not going to be using Twitter to promote the product(s) so 50 followers is sufficient. If you don't have a Twitter account with at least 50 followers just go to NamePros.com and under NP$ Incentives start a thread asking for followers. It's a quick, easy and free way to get some followers. Once you have your Twitter account ready, go to retweet.it. This site allows you to get free retweets, all you have to do is tweet the messages on the homepage to get credits. They also give you the option to buy credits but it really isn't necessary. That's a lot of retweets for just one of two products and you don't want to put all of your eggs into one basket. If you're promoting a bunch of products it would be a good option. So once you get at least 20 credits or so, go to Notepad, where you copied your Clickbank affiliate link, and copy and paste it into retweet.it under Submit A Message. After that, retweet.it does the rest and you'll get a bunch of retweets for free. That's one way I get my conversions.

    Another method of mine is Facebook. I have a fan page with 20k fans and it grows everyday, this is the first place that I start. I take my Clickbank affiliate link and update the fan page with a new status containing my link. Another way I use Facebook to promote Clickbank products, especially the Mafia Wars products, is I go to Groups and search for Mafia Wars groups. I look for all the popular groups, groups with at least 20k members. I post my Clickbank affiliate link to the walls. Make sure you don't overdo it though. Do around 5 every few hours. Facebook is getting pretty strict these days and if they see that you're constantly abusing the wall feature they will block you for hours, sometimes days, from posting on any walls.

    That's basically it. I'll be honest and say I'm not one of those people making hundreds a day and thousands a month but I still make money from just using the above methods. I hope it works for you guys as well. GOOD LUCK!
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    • Profile picture of the author Blackman75
      Originally Posted by pinnaclesoftwares View Post

      Just a little something I wrote up and thought I'd share with you guys. I usually turn this kind of stuff into ebooks but I decided to be nice and crack it out with a few paragraphs.

      Clickbank products aren't the easiest things in the world to convert so I'm going to help you guys out by letting you know how I promote those products. You will see your hops increase dramatically and hopefully you'll get some conversions out of it.

      The first thing you need to do is sign into Clickbank and go to the marketplace to find products that you want to promote. Facebook is becoming more and more popular by the minute so I would start with those. If they don't convert well for you, try my tactics on other products that you think will sell better.

      People who use Facebook usually play the games or use an app that requires you to play certain games in order to "unlock" something in the app. So start by browsing the Clickbank marketplace for Facebook game products. If all else fails, just search for the two most popular games on Facebook - Mafia Wars and Farmville. For me, Mafia Wars converts better. The product that converts the best for me would be Mafia Wars Annihilation. Go to the marketplace and search for it. Now that you have your product chosen, get the promotion link/your affiliate link. Copy and paste it into Notepad for easy access.

      For the next part, you are going to need a Twitter account that has at least 50 followers. You yourself are not going to be using Twitter to promote the product(s) so 50 followers is sufficient. If you don't have a Twitter account with at least 50 followers just go to NamePros.com and under NP$ Incentives start a thread asking for followers. It's a quick, easy and free way to get some followers. Once you have your Twitter account ready, go to retweet.it. This site allows you to get free retweets, all you have to do is tweet the messages on the homepage to get credits. They also give you the option to buy credits but it really isn't necessary. That's a lot of retweets for just one of two products and you don't want to put all of your eggs into one basket. If you're promoting a bunch of products it would be a good option. So once you get at least 20 credits or so, go to Notepad, where you copied your Clickbank affiliate link, and copy and paste it into retweet.it under Submit A Message. After that, retweet.it does the rest and you'll get a bunch of retweets for free. That's one way I get my conversions.

      Another method of mine is Facebook. I have a fan page with 20k fans and it grows everyday, this is the first place that I start. I take my Clickbank affiliate link and update the fan page with a new status containing my link. Another way I use Facebook to promote Clickbank products, especially the Mafia Wars products, is I go to Groups and search for Mafia Wars groups. I look for all the popular groups, groups with at least 20k members. I post my Clickbank affiliate link to the walls. Make sure you don't overdo it though. Do around 5 every few hours. Facebook is getting pretty strict these days and if they see that you're constantly abusing the wall feature they will block you for hours, sometimes days, from posting on any walls.

      That's basically it. I'll be honest and say I'm not one of those people making hundreds a day and thousands a month but I still make money from just using the above methods. I hope it works for you guys as well. GOOD LUCK!
      Thanks! I don't see Mafia Wars Annihilation, though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
      Originally Posted by pinnaclesoftwares View Post

      Just a little something I wrote up and thought I'd share with you guys. I usually turn this kind of stuff into ebooks but I decided to be nice and crack it out with a few paragraphs.

      Clickbank products aren't the easiest things in the world to convert so I'm going to help you guys out by letting you know how I promote those products. You will see your hops increase dramatically and hopefully you'll get some conversions out of it.

      The first thing you need to do is sign into Clickbank and go to the marketplace to find products that you want to promote. Facebook is becoming more and more popular by the minute so I would start with those. If they don't convert well for you, try my tactics on other products that you think will sell better.

      People who use Facebook usually play the games or use an app that requires you to play certain games in order to "unlock" something in the app. So start by browsing the Clickbank marketplace for Facebook game products. If all else fails, just search for the two most popular games on Facebook - Mafia Wars and Farmville. For me, Mafia Wars converts better. The product that converts the best for me would be Mafia Wars Annihilation. Go to the marketplace and search for it. Now that you have your product chosen, get the promotion link/your affiliate link. Copy and paste it into Notepad for easy access.

      For the next part, you are going to need a Twitter account that has at least 50 followers. You yourself are not going to be using Twitter to promote the product(s) so 50 followers is sufficient. If you don't have a Twitter account with at least 50 followers just go to NamePros.com and under NP$ Incentives start a thread asking for followers. It's a quick, easy and free way to get some followers. Once you have your Twitter account ready, go to retweet.it. This site allows you to get free retweets, all you have to do is tweet the messages on the homepage to get credits. They also give you the option to buy credits but it really isn't necessary. That's a lot of retweets for just one of two products and you don't want to put all of your eggs into one basket. If you're promoting a bunch of products it would be a good option. So once you get at least 20 credits or so, go to Notepad, where you copied your Clickbank affiliate link, and copy and paste it into retweet.it under Submit A Message. After that, retweet.it does the rest and you'll get a bunch of retweets for free. That's one way I get my conversions.

      Another method of mine is Facebook. I have a fan page with 20k fans and it grows everyday, this is the first place that I start. I take my Clickbank affiliate link and update the fan page with a new status containing my link. Another way I use Facebook to promote Clickbank products, especially the Mafia Wars products, is I go to Groups and search for Mafia Wars groups. I look for all the popular groups, groups with at least 20k members. I post my Clickbank affiliate link to the walls. Make sure you don't overdo it though. Do around 5 every few hours. Facebook is getting pretty strict these days and if they see that you're constantly abusing the wall feature they will block you for hours, sometimes days, from posting on any walls.

      That's basically it. I'll be honest and say I'm not one of those people making hundreds a day and thousands a month but I still make money from just using the above methods. I hope it works for you guys as well. GOOD LUCK!
      I loved reading this, good information. You teach affiliate marketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sondunkilthim
    I'm on the same boat as you are, Refreshment. Good thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
      Originally Posted by Sondunkilthim View Post

      I'm on the same boat as you are, Refreshment. Good thread.
      Welcome to you then. Thanks, everybody here is very helpful. There is a lot of good information in this thread. Make sure to check everything. Lets make this a good thread for newbies.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mitchell H
    Never be afraid to ask questions! Everyone here is extremely helpful in answering anything you may be confused on
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  • Profile picture of the author Dong Lee
    This forum is definitely a great place to be. You can share your learnings and learn from other people's success and failures.
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  • Profile picture of the author steverich
    You are definately in the best place to learn!!

    If you need some quick cold hard cash to keep your head above water while you're learning the ropes as it were, check out my sig.

    All the best
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    If you want to learn, you came to the right place. This forum is jam packed with useful information and really good people willing to help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    I am really liking to work on IM. Very very happy that I found this forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author bestpjs
    Wow, good luck man,

    Don't listen to empty promises..

    Start with small budget..

    Try to replicate things that are absultly working.. and require mimal moeny investment..

    Good luck..
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  • Profile picture of the author shipwrecked
    Create multiple sites and build separate types of strategies for each.

    Either one, two or more... or all of them will rank well enough to bring you profit!

    Otherwise keep in mind that there's not just the search engines that can bring you traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
      Originally Posted by shipwrecked View Post

      Create multiple sites and build separate types of strategies for each.

      Either one, two or more... or all of them will rank well enough to bring you profit!

      Otherwise keep in mind that there's not just the search engines that can bring you traffic.
      That's a good one.
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