Clickbank rejected my product :-(

by Velrajan Thangavelu 18 replies
Dear Warriors,

Clickbank rejected my product Video Scraper Plus with the reason "Click bank won't approve any product which are related to youtube"..but still i could see so many product in clickbank which are related to youtube..

Feel very bad now..
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    Is there a similar product to yours already selling through Clickbank?

    If so, ask why that product is approved and yours is not.

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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    Assuming you are within the TOS of youtube, I would point out to whomever turned you down that they need to educate themselves on CB's newly updated rules.

    If I remember correctly, CB will now allow these sorts of products as long as they don't promote any methods that violate the sights TOS.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      Assuming you are within the TOS of youtube, I would point out to whomever turned you down that they need to educate themselves on CB's newly updated rules.

      If I remember correctly, CB will now allow these sorts of products as long as they don't promote any methods that violate the sights TOS.
      Clickbank also prohibits "Any product that, in ClickBank's sole judgment, encourages the unlawful transfer of copyrighted media, such as music, movies, videos, and games."

      With the word "Scraper" in the product's title that may be the trigger more so than being related to YouTube, especially if the content "encourages the unlawful transfer of copyrighted media...."
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      • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Clickbank also prohibits "Any product that, in ClickBank's sole judgment, encourages the unlawful transfer of copyrighted media, such as music, movies, videos, and games."

        With the word "Scraper" in the product's title that may be the trigger more so than being related to YouTube, especially if the content "encourages the unlawful transfer of copyrighted media...."
        but youtube videos are allowed to be used wherever you want - they provide embed code just for this.

        that being said, their response was that they don't allow ANY youtube products - which I don't think is true as of last week.

        I think this is just a matter of educating the person who turned you down. Plus, the 'scraper' thing probably threw them off a bit as well..
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

          but youtube videos are allowed to be used wherever you want - they provide embed code just for this.
          You can embed them, but you can't take copyrighted video content and use it however you like, which is what scraping implies. And, from the WSO of the product: "If you're trying to gather video content to use in your own videos, nothing sucks worse than having to sift through each video one by one in order to download them."

          Disclaimers against downloading copyrighted content may not be sufficient either, as whether a product encourages unlawful transfer of copyrighted content is "in ClickBank's sole judgment."
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          • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

            You can embed them, but you can't take copyrighted video content and use it however you like, which is what scraping implies. And, from the WSO of the product: "If you're trying to gather video content to use in your own videos, nothing sucks worse than having to sift through each video one by one in order to download them."

            Disclaimers against downloading copyrighted content may not be sufficient either, as whether a product encourages unlawful transfer of copyrighted content is "in ClickBank's sole judgment."
            But if it's on youtube, then youtube allows and encourages you to use it.

            I believe the copyright issues are something else entirely: they are with others who post copyrighted material there in the first place. This should be well outside the scope of CB.

            There simply is nothing shady with using youtube videos on your own site.

            I'm assuming again that this product was in compliance with youtubes TOS. In reality, all we are talking about here is a small bot/spider.

            Re:scraping. This simply means pulling some sort of data from a UI via a program. Way before blackhats were 'scraping' html, programmers were doing screen scrapes, etc. for totaly legit purposes (and we still do). If I were in a design meeting with clients and other programmers, and I were to suggest scraping something, nobody would raise an eyebrow.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
              Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

              But if it's on youtube, then youtube allows and encourages you to use it.
              For embedding purposes. By my reading of their TOS, it doesn't appear to me as they encourage you to use it in any way you like. For personal use, maybe. But, for commercial use, which would include use by marketers, no. Not by my reading of it, anyway.

              Re:scraping. This simply means pulling some sort of data from a UI via a program. Way before blackhats were 'scraping' html, programmers were doing screen scrapes, etc. for totaly legit purposes (and we still do). If I were in a design meeting with clients and other programmers, and I were to suggest scraping something, nobody would raise an eyebrow.
              I would bet that the ClickBank reviewer is more familiar with the blackhat meaning than the programming meaning.
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    • Yes am within the TOS of youtube.One thing i don't understand is recently i saw the similar kind of product which are approved by clicbank..don't know what made them to reject my product..

      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      Assuming you are within the TOS of youtube, I would point out to whomever turned you down that they need to educate themselves on CB's newly updated rules.

      If I remember correctly, CB will now allow these sorts of products as long as they don't promote any methods that violate the sights TOS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
    Remove all mention of YouTube from the sales letter and ask them to re-evaluate it. For example:

    Video Scraper Plus Module #4 – Youtube Bulk Upload – The Video Marketer's Dream...and change it to: Video Scraper Plus Module #4 – Video Bulk Upload – The Video Marketer's Dream (works with the #1 video sharing site online).

    Stuff like that. In the copy add an FAQ section with this question:

    Q: Will Video Scraper Plus work with YouTube?
    A: Yes!

    Don't give up. Ask ClickBank to work with you to get approved. You'll be surprised.
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    • Alan,thanks for the tips..will do

      Originally Posted by Alan Petersen View Post

      Remove all mention of YouTube from the sales letter and ask them to re-evaluate it. For example:

      Video Scraper Plus Module #4 – Youtube Bulk Upload – The Video Marketer's Dream...and change it to: Video Scraper Plus Module #4 – Video Bulk Upload – The Video Marketer's Dream (works with the #1 video sharing site online).

      Stuff like that. In the copy add an FAQ section with this question:

      Q: Will Video Scraper Plus work with YouTube?
      A: Yes!

      Don't give up. Ask ClickBank to work with you to get approved. You'll be surprised.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    They do seem to have got very picky lately! They rejected one of mine for that reason too; and I also had one rejected because my email addie was not on the sales page - and that was never a requirement in the past!

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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    You can embed them, but you can't take copyrighted video content and use it however you like, which is what scraping implies
    I'm sorry, but no it does not imply this. Just like c programming does not imply creating virus's or malware.

    'Scraping' is a long established technical term, not a blackhat term.

    Ask any computer science professor what scraping is - you won't get anything back talking about stealing copyrighted material.

    I don't think I have ever taken issue with anything you've said in the past (just the opposite probably), but I really have to do so here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      I'm sorry, but no it does not imply this. Just like c programming does not imply creating virus's or malware.

      'Scraping' is a long established technical term, not a blackhat term.

      Ask any computer science professor what scraping is - you won't get anything back talking about stealing copyrighted material.

      I don't think I have ever taken issue with anything you've said in the past (just the opposite probably), but I really have to do so here.
      I think Hormel Foods would make a similar argument for "spam."
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    I would approach someone else in ClickBank. Maybe the person that you talked to is a MAD person or something like that.

    Try to talk to someone else. They MAY approve you.

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  • Thanks a lot for your valuable suggestion.Planning to give a try again with the modification you have suggested..fingers crossed....
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