Please help me! I'm failing. Here's WHY...

Unfortunately I'm guilty of all three! So much information overload and everybody's got THE final answer on how to make money online and 99% of it is crap when you get it. I know there are people making money out there (some of them from selling to me) ... but I'm not yet one of the 1% that's been successful but I've stopped buying the latest shiny object and starting to get it done the right way now.

Dare I say it?

Some folks are just not cut out for the Internet marketing challenge.

Don't get me wrong, I have often said that everyone has a good business idea within themselves that a savvy Internet marketer could make profitable.

But not everyone has what it takes to be a business person and no matter how long they try, they are not going to make it unless some major changes occur (which don't often happen.)

Some folks, for instance, can't stay focused (as you mentioned) on a task for more than a few minutes. No matter how often they jump to a new task, they can't endure long enough in one arena.

Other folks think they "know it all" and refuse to learn or follow what successful marketer's teach. They aren't going to do well.

Still other people can't form an intelligent sentence, think clearly, or put their ideas into meaningful comments. They doom themselves.

Sure, every once in a while the exceptional person overcomes these flaws, but my experience is that 99% of these would-be marketers fail rather quickly and eventually give up.

Steve

This was the first thing I learned and to be honest, I would probably be on the street if I didn't learn it when I did. I didn't make a ton of money at that time (or even today) but it was enough to put food on the table and keep things moving.

Aside from my personal problems, I always recommend building lists before anything else.

As far as the failing goes, I believe the only true failure is to do nothing. Even if no money is being made, consistent work towards making that income is just part of the process. Of course with the right training that process can be accelerated.

Thanks for the great post!

And see this is the problem right here. All the "insiders" are mailing about those unicorns and rainbows every 2-3 days.

Insider needs to make a living and they do so by emailing. In order to keep emailing they need to have a variety of products and services to email about. So John Subscriber gets 15 next big things having to do with traffic, 12 next big things having to do with social networking, and 8 next big things about making it big as an affiliate/product creator.

Most "insiders" are in this to make a buck - NOT to help someone really make a bunch of money. If they really cared they would not talk about all these next big things but they would lay out a plan that would not change every week with the next new kind of hammer that comes out. They wouldn't say "you have to have this or you will fail". They wouldn't use language to fool you such as talking about their friends when it's just a way for them to make an affiliate commission.

Case in point #2. They don't need traffic they need to build a list. But how do you get someone to your squeeze page without traffic.

See this is what many of the trusted insiders feed their subscribers. Round about, unclear, and impossible for anyone to succeed by following the advice.

But the good news is that there will be an email coming out next week from said trusted insider about how to get more traffic.

I'm not anti insider. I'm antiBS. I'm not suggesting that insiders should share their information for free or anything of the sort - I don't. But I am suggesting that there be some transparency and honesty here if someone is putting themselves out to be a "trusted insider".

Mark

I believe that this might hold true... for the first couple of months or so.
But I believe people actually deep down know what they are doing or not doing that is causing the problems(s). So they search and search for a way to do the tasks that they do not want to do or refuse to acknowledge. Yes, outsourcing can be a solution for some of this... but that takes funds they do not have.

So they spend countless hours and money (often bill money) searching and searching for that magic paragraph that will change their lives forever. That one sentence that will tell them how to make all of the dirt go away.

I think the most success comes from watching and learning from others, both successful and complete failures. Then and only then do you put that Knowledge together too make "Yourself" shine.

I do not want to buy from Jack that is trying to be John. I want to buy from Jack that is open and truely being Jack.
So in other words, quit jacking around and passing the buck, making all of this entirely more complicated than what it needs to be. Just be who you really are and use your uniqueness to design and grow "Your" business.
Focusing on the money instead of yourself and your network will only hinder you...

my 2 cents

JL

The only thing that I would add is tracking and testing.

I think too many marketers never really get around to these things. Sure they might do a bit of tracking, and a bit of testing.

But they don't put in enough effort to truly understand what they are seeing when they see their numbers.

And it is this lack of tracking and testing that causes them to "not know why they are failing"

And it causes them to waste huge amounts of time on efforts that are bringing them no results at all. But they do those things because that is what they were told to do.

But if they were to make a commitment to themselves to track and test their processes and systems, then they will be able to stop doing the things that bring no results, and focus their energies on the things that do work.

Not only that but I think when you track and test your mindset changes from "I have to find that magic bullet" to "how can I improve what I already know works?"

With tracking and testing you start to rely on skill and knowledge, but without you are relying on hope and chance.

I think fear of failure paralyzes many people as well, not to mention the lack of taking real action to get something to work. Its not something you can just cruise through and expect awesome results.

Great post, I'm certainly guilty of not building a list, should be the first step you take. All traffic that come through sites you own is gone when it's gone otherwise. You should have a way of calling them back at will!

Believe it or not i just started my own affiliate business online and have made money of course but i didnt know nothing about internet marketing. I learned by watching you tube videos on how to do this or that. some ways have work and some have not.

David

Hey Matt. One other BIG reason what stops people getting started on line is MONEY
or should I say the lack of I know I have been online trying to get a start for over 5 years now
I have a hhuuuummmmm website that I am unable to build due to the lack of knowledge and I foolishly keep it going knowing I could do with the money for food but I keep it in hopes that
one day I will figure it out I have tried Affiliate Marketing but free traffic is the pits when it comes to trying to make money everyone knows it is solo ads that makes the money and solo ads cost money so to be honest if you don't have money to start you don't have a hope in hell's chance

Well said. So many people need to read this and really understand it. Thank you for putting it out there.

Well when i USED to fail... my problem was infatuation with the 1st sale. I did no backend marketing, even though i was getting alot of front end customers. Because of this, i didn't recoup any money lost via advertising, i did no free marketing to lower the customer acquisition cost...... and i was forced out of business. I know better now though.

I have been online for about 3 years plus and i think that the main reason why i only starts to make money online this year is because previously i never focus enough on the right things. When i start to do a project, i usually did not finish it then starts to move onto the next project/website. I never have the chance to see any results at all because i "jump" around so often

Its all very well to talk about how building the list is the most important thing - but how do you build it? I have tried many ways and most of them seem to fail. Offering gifts for subscription is not working, solo ad did not work since all subs came from bolivia and two could not even speak the lingo. Free ads have not worked. People come, look and leave. No buying, no subscribing. What to do? I have really good products.

very true.. but is difficult to say if you are listening to the wrong 'gurus'. their methods worked for them but it is for them, you are not them and if you failed and blamed them? I think it is slightly unfair. aiysss~ is getting complicated..

imho. is the lack of taking massive RIGHT actions that led to failure.. but remember time should never is a constraint for u..

cheers!

Sounds like my first year online. I'm just now starting to build a list. Just put my first free report up on my website tonight.

One of the things I've realized is that you need to have a willingness to fail. Get your first product out there and see how people react to it. If it works, keep doing it. If not, figure out something else that might work. Eventually you'll find something that gets people to buy. You'll never learn, though, unless you are willing to fail.

I think the biggest problem is too much reading and not enough (or any) doing. You have to start making mistakes to have something to learn from.

My survey asked one question:

"What is your biggest challenge in Internet Marketing?"

I asked because I wanted to know what people needed help with.

My site and Facebook ads targeting internet marketers.

thats why newbies like us needs a good mentor that teaches us step by step. And not the advice what we are passionate about. we are just passionate about to make money online and get out for a 9-5 jobs

In my opinion nobody get success online unless one is experienced, we try and fail but we learn something, we read things we implement them and everything gets on track slowly. Never think of shortcuts they lead to nowhere

I am / was guilty of just about all those things.

Thankfully I found the right type of person to mentor me before I wasted years and thousands $$$ chasing "golden turds" (lol). Just by implementing something as easy as tracking I've been able to turn a 100 click solo in to 80 opt-ins rather than my usual 50-60.

As you said, "focus"... I focus on tracking and improving rather than chasing down miracle products. Viewing sales pages is an educational experience now rather than rainbow chasing.

Hopefully this little insight helps at least one struggling marketer lurking the threads.

These are some great reasons, I remember (even rather recently) being trapped by all three of these. I think the problem stems with many people who know nothing about internet marketing (the newbies) trying to somehow teach other markets how to make money.

I couldn't find a good marketer to follow (how had laid their strategies out on the table) until only recently and it's a real shame so many people who are new to IM have to go through the same thing.

Nice post. But are there really very few genuine Gurus? Can stats on how many are genuine?

I don't think there are stats per se on how many gurus are genuine. Really, it just comes down to being able to judge who the ethical marketers are and who's just flooding the market with garbage. I can assure you there are a bunch of people on both sides of the fence.

Anyways, I'm glad I found this thread because I am looking to join a mentor program.

Not everyone start with the same level, like ...list building.

I find it amazing how many newbies try to start with a niche of the IM market itself. How can they possibly tell others how to do it when they haven't actually been there and done that themselves. The result is that there appears to be lots of desperate marketers producing golden turds to try to make the bills. Resulting in poor results and diminished trust.

The answer is quite simple, it is simply because they are not in a learning environment...they are trying to re-invent the wheel on HOW to learn...but the mistake is not only theirs, Because too many are trying to re-invent the wheel on HOW to teach!

Soon enough, I plan to reveal the solution on HOW to learn without failure!
It will GUARANTEE Success!

You've definitely brought up some good points, and I'd like to add one more ...

Biggest Reason #4

A lot of people don't target highly profitable niches ...

... and wonder why the make no money, or next to it.

This is probably due to all the misinformation out there that you should target low competition niches, where you can dominate easier.

I say this is rubbish.

There's a good reason most of the profitable niches are competitive ... because quite simply, that's where the money is!

I get that some people get intimidated by all the competition out there, especially in weight loss, MMO, pick up, etc.

But here's the thing ...

The way I see it, the more competition there is, the QUICKER you can build a profitable website.

Here's why:

If you have a ton of established competitors in your marketplace, that means you have a ton of like-minded marketers getting a lot of traffic, who probably have big lists.

And it's far easier to start or grow a business doing JV's, than it is to build a business from scratch.

So as long as you have a product that works, that provides genuine value, that actually solves real problems, and it converts, you won't have a problem finding partners.

Just my $0.02

There's a few things, wish we were on a hangout or conference Matt, this could take a while lol.

It sucks, but it's true... list building, traffic, building a site, researching a market the list goes on and one; but none of these things are the first things a person should do when starting a business.

The first thing they should do is DECIDE to start a business.

Then, learn how business works.

But even before these things, they should decide what the business is going to be. Look, I've seen too many students go about this thing as if all they have to do is find out what everyone else is selling, learn what they are doing and then just copy that... then they are SURE to make money.

I got news for a lot of folks here. Many of us who started 5, 10, 15 or nearly 20 years ago now had nothing to lose and everything to gain from busting our humps learning, testing, researching and coming up with new strategies to figure out this whole doing business online thing.

As the years went by and we became profitable, people ASKED us to teach them and so we did, to help out. Then, our businesses evolved into consulting, coaching, strategy training and doing campaigns for others.

But here's the best part, NONE of us are marketers. Marketing is something you plan and do in your business but it is not something you ARE.

If you want to kick business off to profits, you first have to realize even the governments expect you to fail at least 2 out of 5 years in business!

Not every year will be good, not all will be bad. Many of the things we do in business is utterly and painstakenly boring at times, but we do it because that's part of the show.

The first thing people have to do is:
1. Decide to start a BUSINESS, not a "me too" campaign
2. ...figure out how a real business structure works and which will be right for you ie,
- Sole Proprietorship, Partnership, LLC, S Corp, C Corp
(most of the time the Partnership is the way to go, even if your spouse is listed as the partner in order to gain a better advantage on your taxation strategy)
3. Learn about the rules and laws of the game. Don't wait until you need to know... because you want to start building right from the start.

NOW...figure out what you want to do. Do you want to sell retail, then start with Amazon and eBay and work your way up.

Do you want to do affiliate marketing? Alright, pick a niche and stick with it. NOW, build that list, split test, advertise... the skies the limit... just focus!

Business is about knowing what you need to know or knowing the people who know what you need to know.

Understand that most things that sell in a WSO are a tactic or strategy for a particular method of marketing, but not necessarily a solid BUSINESS model or strategy.

Understand that most "guru" courses from some of the best in the business, will teach a HUGE chunk of what you need to know to make more money, but there will be many things you need to do before you implement their training and there will be MANY things after you implement it that will not be covered in the course.

If you've been online for 5 years and haven't made a dime in your "business", then you don't have a business (sorry, harsh but true)

(Here's a great copy writer's line) But it's not your fault...or is it?

Have you ever taken the time to REALLY learn about business, how it works, how to balance your financing and workload, how to properly research and beta test products and services?

Probably, the answer would be no. There are plenty of big names out there that will read this and say "Well I don't know much about business but I make a ton of money"

Yeah, well, then you're a good sales person and the person you HIRED to run your business is good at business

What am I getting at? You have to learn how to build a foundation before you start adding the bricks, the mortar, walls, windows, door and the roof.

The interior luxuries (ie money and change in lifestyle) come after you have a house that can't be knocked down no matter the economy.

Still wish we were all in a Google hangout or something on this topic lol

I'm done, it really can't be written in the space allotted here

- Bob

Hi,
My advice to anyone having troubles online or just starting out would be this.

There is a great book by David Allen called Getting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity. It's available on Amazon and deals with overcoming the information overload syndrome and also gives a great way to learn how to focus.

With the tips from this book and also the use of evernote and focus booster, two simple but very helpful productivity tools, I have not only increased my productivity but have been able to relax and enjoy this profession more. I started in 2007 and suffered from information overload syndrome for a few years.

A great mentor would be my next recommendation.

Notice I haven't even mentioned a niche yet as to choose a good niche, and get good keywords to promote it, you should get advice from someone who knows what they are doing.

I totally agree with you on all points Matt.

I must confess that in some niches I make
below that $1 - $3 per month per subscriber, but
that's why I choose to focus on the more profitable
ones

I started building a list from day one. With the very
first site that I put up, I put opt-in forms all over
the place, and I still do that. Of course, today, you
need to do more work to SELL people on joining your
list, but I definitely consider my database the most
important asset that I own.

That also reminds me to point out to everyone that
you should be backing up, and downloading, that
database regularly.

I also think that it's critical to start building real
relationships.

All things being equal, people will help out their friends
FIRST. So, start making connections and forming
real friendships. Those will be the people that you
can really count on when launching your own products,
etc.

Willie

I think the biggest reason why people fail at IM is #3, lack of focus. They scatter their energy around and spread themselves too thin buying all these programs that don't really work.

I agree with you Matt on the fact that it is easy to fall on teachers online who are not ready or are unable to teach.

In fact, following a person who is not ready or are unable to teach you can be translated into what could be seen as a loss of time. This being, it can still be a source of experience.

I agree, it's hard to stay focused with your inbox flooded with new offers every day. I've recently been trying to focus on SEO since I already have the web design down, then I'll branch out from there.

I think you've nailed it!! That pretty much summs it up for me.

The first thing that broke the rut for me was getting a coach, who firstly developed a positive mindset, then motivated me to focus, then build a list. Mbacak, you summed it all up in a few words. Newbies read this and learn. Top info.

Hmm, might have had something to do with LOTS of emails - all on different things and very close together that had me a bit scattered.

Nope, not clicking your sig link :rolleyes:.

All of that is completely secondary in my opinion. It ignores a truth that everyone seems too scared of.

The biggest reason of all for failure is that they do not work hard at work worth doing. When you work hard success naturally falls into place because you discover for yourself the things that work and do not work. You don't need some "Guru" telling you anything.

No one can cheat you anymore because you KNOW from your own experience what works and what does not.

When I say hard work, I mean above and beyond what the average man considers hard work(Not no 14 hour days). I mean 20-40 hour days. I mean falling asleep at your computer desk. I mean forgetting to eat, sleep and sacrificing the unnecessary things in life.

Bill Gates, Thomas Edison, Will Smith and many of the other greats had this type of work ethic.

You always hear that stupid saying "Don't work hard, work smart."


Well, I have a better saying, "Lets work both hard and smart at the same time. Then you'll be unstoppable."

Work today how others won't, so you can live tomorrow how other can't.

There is no secret answer to success. All of it is just a lot of hard work and perseverance until sooner or later a breakthrough happens. It is sooner than later the harder you work.

Now if you excuse me, I have to get back to work.

I am guilty of all three of your main points.
I am much more selective about who I listen to.
Not that I am being more careful, I am finding that the people
I like and I can confirm their results are all saying the same thing.

That said, because I am always looking for "extra" income those shiny objects
can look good go me. Whether they look like they will save me time, money or frustration
of setting things up (many time I hit roadblocks that I have a hard time overcoming on my own)
Then I move on the the next thing.

Focus is a problem for me too. It is easy to get side tracked.

I would like to see more follow up from the people creating these products we buy.
I buy a product. I like it. I then like the person who sold it to me.
I start working with it.
Then a few days later I am sent emails for another product.

Do the gurus just plan on many of us getting frustrated with the product we just bought and they know we will be ready to give up and try an new products a few days later?

I am now focusing on building a list. Taking my time. Building a real business and a real income.
No more shiny objects to me- just focused commitment.

Thanks for listening

Sorry for the typos

Where was this forum, last year? Oh wait, I wasn't here. Thank you everyone at War Room. I never realized why I failed, until now.

I do have the right people guiding my towards, a solid direction. One thing is true. Educate yourself.

Hi mbacak,

Totally agree with your post! Building a list of subscribers is the most important component of an online business. Whatever action you're taking. You should put list building as the final result that you want to achieve. FOCUS on list building and you will succeed.

Very good post!

I think NOT having a plan of action is a major reason so many IMers fail.

Very great points gathered.

I used to make all the listed mistakes because my mind is overloaded with the right information.

However, when I learnt to quiet the mind, I get to enjoy $1000 a day income. It really makes a lot of difference when we chose to take the steps that will lead to our next step of success.

Man... thanks for posting this. I got more value out of this post then reading 100 other posts. I hate to admit it but I've fallen into that trap before and not just once either.

I call them the Golden Ticket, do this and bang your a millionaire. For me List building is king and since I learnt that form you Matt, it has served me very well. Even now in the mobile arena and business world.

My 2 cents, do what they do and find someone like matt to show you how.

Its worked well for me and will continuing working.

I agree with everything you said except list building. Just as not everyone is good at writing good content, not everyone should be sending low quality emails. I only read about a fourth of the emails I receive, even the ones I know I have subscribed too.

Good thread, I think the top reasons people fail are:

* They think it is HARDER than what it is to make money.

You just need a converting niche, a converting sales page and a product - obviously if the product is quality it helps with conversion rates.

* They lose Focus.

Those with products or systems that you have tried ask yourself what you have REALLY done to market them?

Marketing is hard work.

* They get demotivated.

Keep on failing, losing money and sooner or later you hit a wall.

The truth is that all successful people will leave clues - don't chase the rainbows - find the clues...

Powerful read! I loved it and wish someone would have broke it down in this manner to me when I began. If I could add anything it would be make sure you have a good informative squeeze page and a awesome free gift to get them to sign up to your list.

Kind Regards

Find the ONE thing that made you the most money online and scale it up. I think I have heard it about 100 times, but it bears repeating...because SIMPLY..it works!

They fail because they promote many programs and join every other opportunity. No one told them they need to just stick with one good opportunity and promote it through their squeeze page. They also do not make money because they lazy as well.

I simply want a mentor to teach me. Avoiding all the shiny objects, when more than half of what a new person is flooded with is shiny objects by the "gurus" takes a little time to sift through.

I've bought nothing, looked at several. Until I feel better versed, and research in forums like this do help a newbie trust me on that, and find an actual real person who is ready, willing and able to be a true and reliable mentor through the process, no shiny objects will be purchased.

I'm sure there are viable mentors here in the Warrior Forums, but sifting through the thousands to find the one....not such an easy task for us new people.

I have a problem believing that this can really happen for me.. I know how the list building works, i have bought courses teaching this but i seem to spend a ton of money on solo ads and i don't get much in return..

I always end up being out of pocket when i try building a list so i stop doing it.. I also run out of money so i can't keep buying solo ads..

I actually enjoy your candidness and opinions.

You'll probably hate to find that in some cases we
have a lot more in common then you think. However,
there's one thing, that drives me nuts...

...not knowing who's talking. Who are you? What's your
name... and why don't you use a real name?

I'm really curious behind the thinking....

(Below is not about YOU dub,dub... just
my personal low tolerance these days )

Right now, I think, there's a bigger issue on the internet,
then "self appointed" gurus... it's fake ones, they are running
ramped and it's getting worse. Clickbank kinda cleaned that
up in their market place, but they still run ramped.

Fake stories, and of fake people, selling shit they throw
together that has no value what-so-ever, is a BIG issue.

And that's why, I posted this in a earlier post:

DubDub

Kevin Oleary and Daymond John from shark tank are doing appearances left and right. Daymond claims to have done 400 billion in sales, he wants 40k for an appearance... They are richer than all of us... but are doing motivational speaking... apparently its smart and the easiest way to make money.

I bet you people are begging for them to speak in public so what are you going to do deny the people of what they want? Some people are not action takers and feel good about sitting in a room with a "guru". Thats not me, thats not you, its their money let them do it.

I have read "think and grow rich" My friends told me its a scam, and im some voodoo believing person now. It changed my life and put me on a different path. Their opinion doesn't matter so i spent the money on the book anyway and made my own decision, perception is reality for many, their money, their choices.

MLM and "gurus" will be around until the end of time so your prediction on it ending is way off, in fact i would bet it will be on the rise rise.... in a world with more and more info to take it everyday we will need more "gurus" to hone in and sell a package consisting of "only what you need to know" type of packages... and there will always be people willing to sell you it.

Matt, I have been on your lists for years (literally!)

I've studied your techniques, but if you are offering private coaching or training, I have my credit card in hand ready to buy...just send me a link!

I've used your email marketing strategies for the last 18 months and have been able to make a nice high $x,xxx per month income, but I'm looking to take it to the next level.

Thanks Matt for what you do, you're the real deal!

BTW...I'm serious about paying for coaching/consulting

I will admit lack of focus and stubborness have definately been problems with me but even though transitioning from a typical tech startup way of doing things to IM was far from easy I refuse to let any hardship stop me. I have had many Amazing mentors along the way including Matt Bacak and Ray Higdon. Will I ever know everything no but if I learn to keep my focus while executing my strategy and building value in one niche at a time nothing can stop me except myself.

Yes and No.

Everyone story can be similar but still different.

Sure thing the survey gave some insight and i truly agree on the lack of focus.

As for chasing unicorns and shiny object it goes down to the wrong attitude. They are buying into the promise that the product will do something for them instead of thinking what they can do for their business idea.

Following the wrong people is a tricky one. You can't tell who the good ones are till you've wasted time following the bad ones. Boy how much money i've wasted in the wrong "coaching"...

My opinion is that once you are really clear about your business, you have mapped out a plan black on white and you are serious about executing what need to be done ( create a website, start building a list, write content, write email campaigns, create your first product, practice copywriting, test traffic tactics and so on) then you don't really need to follow anybody.

You will lead your enterprise and drive your business forward.

Stop following the gurus and start to actually do something to execute your ideas and you'll see results happening.

Please note that I think it's good to have a mentor to help you out in the initial stage though the correct mindset must be a leader's one. I have finally found an excellent mentor myself and he's pure dynamite though the work to do it'd mine and every single decision is still mine because i'm leading my business.

This attitude means you are taking responsibility for yourself and your business.

The tricky part of this is that any good man can make a foolish decision: story

There were 2 nice men however one built his house on rock while the other built it on sand.

-end of story-

Get clear about your business idea, plan it out, and build it on solid foundations.

Yeah fail: cos i do nthn... Except read.

Number three is really true to most people! When they get to fail they quit and look for another way. But its not like that, you have to focus on one thing so that you don't get lost. This is because these people want to have that easy money but its not going to be like that. It takes a lot of hard work and challenges to overcome and get what you're aiming for.

Number 1 reason I've failed in past until I change this bad habit:

distractions and perfectionism. I would tweak and tweak things, and mess with others that weren't making me money. So, I'd spend hours and hours on tweaking a site and not reach out to customers, etc.
My two cents.

If I had to take a wild guess :rolleyes:, I'd say it's because they're in it for the money. It's always the same: how can I build a list and make money, how can I create a product and how can I profit.

What happens to giving people what they need?
If you're not getting paid, you're not providing value. Simple as that.

I totally agree and am guilty of doing all of these things. I keep going round in circles because I am too affraid of making mistakes and looking a total idiot. This is silly. Everyone makes mistakes, if they learn from those mistakes then you are a wise person. You need to get focused and set yourself a timeline of things to do.

Completely agree, I am very guilty on all three counts. Main excuss is fear of getting it wrong. Silly because unless you accept your mistakes and learn by them, how are you supposed to learn.

I missed the first one but i wont miss this one!!!!!!!!!!!
PS: Your stuff is awesome Matt!!!!!!!!!!!

Some people also think that, there are millions of money available online. We will come to online and we will be paid for doing nothing. There are some people who are teaching people money making while they themselves are not sure what they are teaching. This way they are making money but the consumers or the students are suffering.

I agree with you, and I have been building my lists after several years' frustration. Now I become focused, and am confident that I can be successful.

I agree whole-heartedly. I also have been mislead by false prophets in IM! Email marketing is the one avenue I haven't explored yet. Thanks for the enlightenment.