I found unregistered restaurant domain name...legal?

by RiggsB
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I recently came across an unregistered domain name for a restaurant. They are currently using a hyphenated version of the name, but the available name is their exactname.com. Can I purchase without worrying about any legal issues? I only plan to sell it once I purchase. Thanks for the assistance!
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    You can if you use that domain name and it doesn't infringe on there name at all. So you would have to check trademarks ect.

    Now would I do it, no I would not do it unless I had a legitimate reason for that exact domain.

    This is coming from me, who went against ebay and won against several domain names cause they had ebay in them. I did find other uses for them other than the ebay. So they could do nothing because nothing in the domain pertained to them.

    I still lost too though since the original plan was to use them for ebay. There were worthless but I wouldn't give up. The lawyers left me alone though and I figure they were really paralegals in the first place.
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    • Profile picture of the author RiggsB
      I see thanks. I guess the only thing I'd want to do with it is sell it to the restaurant. This is all very new to me, so not sure if that is common practice, or frowned upon. Thanks again!
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by RiggsB View Post

        I see thanks. I guess the only thing I'd want to do with it is sell it to the restaurant. This is all very new to me, so not sure if that is common practice, or frowned upon. Thanks again!
        They don't have to buy it from you. They own the trademark to that name most likely and could simply file a UDRP and get the name from you. It's not worth the headache registering trademarks.
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        • Profile picture of the author whland
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          They don't have to buy it from you. They own the trademark to that name most likely and could simply file a UDRP and get the name from you. It's not worth the headache registering trademarks.
          Exactly. They wouldn't need to buy it from you. They could just take you to court over it.

          I wouldn't bother with registering the domain just to sell it to them.

          It's not worth the risk.

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  • Profile picture of the author 300SMG
    If it were me, I'd register it. Let the restaurant know you have it and want them to have it BUT include it in a full new web design project proposal.
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    • Profile picture of the author RiggsB
      Originally Posted by 300SMG View Post

      If it were me, I'd register it. Let the restaurant know you have it and want them to have it BUT include it in a full new web design project proposal.
      Thanks - but not sure I follow what you mean by the proposal. Apologies for the ignorance!
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      • Profile picture of the author RiggsB
        Just following up, thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author 300SMG
        Originally Posted by RiggsB View Post

        Thanks - but not sure I follow what you mean by the proposal. Apologies for the ignorance!
        What I'm saying is register it but offer it to the restaurant ..don't hijack it or hold it for ransom. When you let them have it try and get a web design project out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    It's called cyber squatting and frowned upon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
    If they hire good lawyers they could tie you up in court and drain you financially until you realize it is better just to walk away. However, if you are serious about trying to make something out of the opportunity, the best way to do it would be to do what 300SMG suggested.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Campbell
    Originally Posted by RiggsB View Post

    I recently came across an unregistered domain name for a restaurant. They are currently using a hyphenated version of the name, but the available name is their exactname.com. Can I purchase without worrying about any legal issues? I only plan to sell it once I purchase. Thanks for the assistance!
    The best advice given here is to stay away from using others trademarks in your domain name. If you are not the trademark holder then it can easily be taken away from you and any attempt to sell it to the trademark holder could be met with a legal notice to turn it over to them anyway. It doesn't seem worth it to try this.
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  • Profile picture of the author garveyonweb
    Originally Posted by RiggsB View Post

    I recently came across an unregistered domain name for a restaurant. They are currently using a hyphenated version of the name, but the available name is their exactname.com. Can I purchase without worrying about any legal issues? I only plan to sell it once I purchase. Thanks for the assistance!
    The legal issues against you in the US is the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act. This is a big issue especially if the name is trade marked. As others have said 300SMG probably has your solution, but if you get their backs up watch out.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficBot
    I own a domain of a prominent investment bank in the keywords. I purchased it because I wanted to use it to ride their coattails to sell a stock trading software. I simply did a domain redirect from to the affiliate product and thought everything was good. Guess what? I got an email from the investment banks lawyers a few days later telling me that I "may" be infringing on their name and that they wanted me to surrender the domain name to them. I told them I would park the domain and put it for auction. They told me they didn't want me to sell it to someone else who might also infringe on their name. Long story short, I still own the domain and generate some nice affiliate sales from a stock trading product on Clickbank. And I am not scared of them. This was back in August 2012 and I haven't heard from them since. Therefore, Mr. Banker lawyer kiss my you know what! The worst they can do to you is issue a cease and desist order which if they did in my case I would have complied.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by TrafficBot View Post

      I own a domain of a prominent investment bank in the keywords. I purchased it because I wanted to use it to ride their coattails to sell a stock trading software. I simply did a domain redirect from to the affiliate product and thought everything was good. Guess what? I got an email from the investment banks lawyers a few days later telling me that I "may" be infringing on their name and that they wanted me to surrender the domain name to them. I told them I would park the domain and put it for auction. They told me they didn't want me to sell it to someone else who might also infringe on their name. Long story short, I still own the domain and generate some nice affiliate sales from a stock trading product on Clickbank. And I am not scared of them. This was back in August 2012 and I haven't heard from them since. Therefore, Mr. Banker lawyer kiss my you know what! The worst they can do to you is issue a cease and desist order which if they did in my case I would have complied.
      You apparently don't know a thing about trademark infringement. They don't have to kiss your a$$. They can sue the pants off of that a$$.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
      Originally Posted by TrafficBot View Post

      I own a domain of a prominent investment bank in the keywords. I purchased it because I wanted to use it to ride their coattails to sell a stock trading software. I simply did a domain redirect from to the affiliate product and thought everything was good. Guess what? I got an email from the investment banks lawyers a few days later telling me that I "may" be infringing on their name and that they wanted me to surrender the domain name to them. I told them I would park the domain and put it for auction. They told me they didn't want me to sell it to someone else who might also infringe on their name. Long story short, I still own the domain and generate some nice affiliate sales from a stock trading product on Clickbank. And I am not scared of them. This was back in August 2012 and I haven't heard from them since. Therefore, Mr. Banker lawyer kiss my you know what! The worst they can do to you is issue a cease and desist order which if they did in my case I would have complied.

      lol wow... Not only are you using their name, but your using it to "ride their coattails" to make money off their name? Oh and this isn't some random company name your using. You're messing around with a 'prominent' investment bank, you know... people who have the money to take you to court?

      You're walking on some very thin ice. They probably haven't contacted you because they are building a case against you. You'd better hope this post can't be traced back to you because you just incriminated yourself. Not only would you be sued for damages, but you would lose any income you made from the website.

      I hope for your sake that you're just a kid who doesn't know any better. If not... I hope you can afford the legal battle ahead.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      Oooh

      I hope you dont get a nasty shock

      Originally Posted by TrafficBot View Post

      I own a domain of a prominent investment bank in the keywords. I purchased it because I wanted to use it to ride their coattails to sell a stock trading software. I simply did a domain redirect from to the affiliate product and thought everything was good. Guess what? I got an email from the investment banks lawyers a few days later telling me that I "may" be infringing on their name and that they wanted me to surrender the domain name to them. I told them I would park the domain and put it for auction. They told me they didn't want me to sell it to someone else who might also infringe on their name. Long story short, I still own the domain and generate some nice affiliate sales from a stock trading product on Clickbank. And I am not scared of them. This was back in August 2012 and I haven't heard from them since. Therefore, Mr. Banker lawyer kiss my you know what! The worst they can do to you is issue a cease and desist order which if they did in my case I would have complied.
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  • Profile picture of the author gpwilson
    If i was in your position than i would register the name of the restaurant first. Then every thing would be in my hand. I mean than it's up to me whether i make it profitable site or i would sell that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by TrafficBot View Post

      The worst they can do to you is issue a cease and desist order
      Originally Posted by gpwilson View Post

      If i was in your position than i would register the name of the restaurant first. Then every thing would be in my hand.

      I can barely believe some of the grotesquely misguided nonsense that people post as "advice" here.

      To those gullible enough to take any notice of them, these people are genuinely dangerous. They don't even know whether or not it's trademarked, but they still "have all the answers".
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I can barely believe some of the grotesquely misguided nonsense that people post as "advice" here.

        To those gullible enough to take any notice of them, these people are genuinely dangerous. They don't even know whether or not it's trademarked, but they still "have all the answers".
        listen to this smart lassy.

        Can get into big legal troubles with this I am sure. Times change, and the internet changes along with it. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author tjaysen70
    Yeah if it's a registered trade mark name then you should stay away from it.
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  • Profile picture of the author leemoran
    For what its worth I have done this more than a few times, I have always offered it as my gist to them. I have always got some kind of work - a website, SEO Google places something. I give before I ask. It usually works
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  • Profile picture of the author sunray
    Trademarks are restricted to specific fields of activities. For example, a footwear company can register a domain (and trademark it too) as microsoft-shoes.com.They sell soft shoes, and have nothing to do with another company that develops, manufactures and sells software products.
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  • Profile picture of the author fenomeno
    If that name is TM dont register it. If not, register it! Very simple. By the way, I avoid TMs, but had a few. I sold each of them to their owners! You may also register it if there is TM, but play wise. Although I dont suggest playing with TMs.
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  • Profile picture of the author TMercT
    Hmmm this is a debate table issue, I dunno If I would register it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    Originally Posted by RiggsB View Post

    I recently came across an unregistered domain name for a restaurant. They are currently using a hyphenated version of the name, but the available name is their exactname.com. Can I purchase without worrying about any legal issues? I only plan to sell it once I purchase. Thanks for the assistance!
    First of all, there is a LOT of nonsense being spewed on this thread. The reality is:

    - If it is a generic restaurant name, like BobsBurgers.com, you can register it and use it or sell it as you'd like (unless it's trademarked). There are MANY different "Bobs Burgers" restaurants. http://www.manta.com/mb?search=Bobs+Burgers

    - If it is a trademarked name, stay away unless you plan on using it in a different industry than the trademark is established for. There is a lot of gray area, like the "dilution" possibility that davezan posted above.
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  • Profile picture of the author RiggsB
    Wow, thank you for all of the advice; you guys rock. It definitely seems to not be worth the trouble.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    How about this?

    1) I presume the restaurant are happy with their existing domain name. They have probably been using it for some time because some other misguided idiot bought the one word version and has previously tried to get an inflated price from them.

    2) How about NOT buying it. Phone the restaurant and point out that it is for sale and they can buy it for themselves.

    That sets you out immediately as one of the good guys. Then maybe, just maybe, they might use you for seo services, design services, updating services - or whatever services you offer.

    You do offer services, I presume. Or were you just hoping to make a quick buck by buying a domain they probably don't even want?
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post


      How about NOT buying it. Phone the restaurant and point out that it is for sale and they can buy it for themselves.

      That sets you out immediately as one of the good guys. Then maybe, just maybe, they might use you for seo services, design services, updating services - or whatever services you offer.
      Carol, hands down some of the best advice I've ever seen given to someone who has brought up this issue! If only more people would think this way....generating good will rather than "WIIFM"...

      I doubt any one here would like someone else "riding on the coattails" of their business, nor would they appreciate someone buying a domain name with their business name in it for the sole intent of making a profit on it by selling it to them - trademarked or not. But I'm amazed at how many people think it's just fine to do that to someone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author tellygrrl
    Carol, I completely agree. It's all about building trust and this is a great suggestion... What a great way to introduce yourself to potential clients...
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  • Profile picture of the author 12204
    register them, contact the restaurant, try to sell it to them, profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joel Gray
    You DO NOT want to register the domain, it will just cause you a lot of stress if the company decides to take legal action against you. Cyber squatting is not something that you want to be a part of.

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