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Question about obsessive spinning of articles.

by johnfrem
8 replies
If I am obsessive creating many variations for my articles, rewriting every sentence in the article three ways to say the same thing. And then going back over the article a second time and adding in more variations to to the words that make up the sentences. And then use automatic article submitter to randomly pick from all those variations and submit to article sites, am I going overboard spinning my articles? Will it help more?

Heres an example look at this one sentence below......

{With {hundreds|thousands} of {mix drink|drink|cocktail} recipes and a {several hundred|thousand} varieties of {spirits|liquor} and beers available from all over the {world|earth|globe|planet} {many bartenders|a bartender} must have {excellent|superb} {memory|recollection skills|memorization} to have {remembered|memorized} all of it.|With so many different types of {mix drinks|cocktails}, wines, {liqours|spirits}, beers bartenders need to have excellent {memory|recollection|memorization} skills.|I use to {wonder|ponder} how hard it was for bartenders to {remember|memorize} {hundreds of|so many} {varaitons of|different} {cocktails|mix drinks} {when thinking of|considering} how many different {mix drinks|cocktails} there are not to mention all the different wines, beers, {liqours|spirits}.}
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  • Profile picture of the author hebsgaard
    Personally I would say that it's slightly overkill. You have provided 3 sentences and they take up 8 lines on my screen. That's a lot. What's really important though is how cost effective it is to do what you're doing.

    How much time do you spend coming up with all those variations and what do you get out of it?

    Would the time be better spent writing completely new articles?

    These are important questions that you need to ask yourself. Having several different variations of the same articles might be beneficial in SEO terms. Is it more efficient than providing new quality information though?
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    I think this could be termed anal.

    What are you trying to achieve here? There doesn't seem to be any real benefit to your efforts and I am sure any article spinning software with a good built in thesaurus could produce hundreds, if not thousands, of variations but - So what?

    I think you need to give a little thought to effective time management.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinsonYeung
    Wow, you are spending too much time rewriting these sentences I guess. I personally focus more on quantity spinning and submit them to free traffic system. The more I submit the more backlink I'm getting. But I never spend so much time in rewriting the articles to that excessive spin format
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  • Profile picture of the author johnfrem
    Ok thanks guys..... I do not waste time spinning articles like this. I am just learning to spin articles. Thats why I wanted to ask you warriors. I wanted to get an idea how much is spinning is needed to get the best results. I have never even submitted an article before in my life. Just so you all don't think I am crazy!


    PS: Artwebster, every time I see your picture it always reminds me of Sean Connery the movie actor. I know you have heard this before many times.
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
    Hi John,

    One of the biggest problems with using braces, or in fact any text delimiter for article
    spinners, is the fact that the become very complicated very quickly. If there was a
    problem with your output, it's probably going to take more time to debug. In addition
    to this, it's not going to be as easy for you to read, or understand how all the parts
    interact with each other, and therefore more errors creep in.

    However, the more possible variations you add, the more likelihood of a spin giving you
    a higher uniqueness in your articles. There comes a point though, where adding more
    variables to your spinnable content doens't make sence. You need to consider how
    many possible articles you'll ever need, verses the number of potential unique articles.

    HTH

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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi,

      Interesting

      You also need to consider that your spinning is not going to produce a very good read.

      Examples -

      .............

      and a {several hundred|thousand}

      when spun is =

      and a several hundred

      ...............

      different types of {mix drinks|cocktails}, wines, {liqours|spirits}, beers bartenders need to have excellent

      when spun is =

      different types of cocktails, wines, spirits, beers bartenders need to have excellent

      ...............

      I could find more. It doesn't read right, has bad grammar and uses wording that looks spun.

      I've actually spun content much more deeply and thoroughly than this as a test - with emphasis on nested spins and changing the amount of words used in the variations.

      The point is - it's only worth spinning this thoroughly if you have literally 1000s of places to automatically post the content to, which all get some return.

      If you spin this deeply to only obtain and utilise 5 unique articles (for example), then you are totally going against the core principle of spinning in the first place - leveraging software and techniques to either save time, or expenditure.

      You need to have your reason for spinning firmly in mind before starting, then you can decide if it's worthwhile, and also approach the whole thing with the right mindset and keep refining the process to shave off even more time.

      HTH
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Sanchez
    Don't spin for the sake of spinning. You have to make sure that you are still providing good readable content that others will link to. Quality first, then quantity.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdamWB
    I'm actually doing a pretty extensive test to see the benefit of submitting quality spun unique articles to each directory - instead of the same article to multiple directories.

    And the method your using, is exactly what I do. Rewrite sentence 3 times, then go over the entire document adding in slight variations here and there (well I don't do it, my writer does).

    To be honest I'm not really expecting anything great - as my current technique of submitting the same article to the top 30-50 directories seems to be working fine, great actually. And dont' let anyone tell you google de-indexes the duplicated articles, or does not give them any link-juice - it's a complete fallacy and I have a million and a half ways I can prove it.

    Anyway, good luck and let me know how the spinning goes.
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