Hey Flippers... Gotta A Question For YOUSE.

by Tom B Banned
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I am going to test out a few flips based on some ideas I have.

I did want some input from people that have flipped a few. Mainly if you found flipping a blog style website more lucrative compared to a sales page type of website.

It will be selling a particular product but with the blog I could add more adsense, clickbank items and so on...

I just wanted feedback if the blog approach with many profit streams would sell for more than a sales page with one product or package for sale.


Tanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Desmond Ong
    Hi Thomas,

    There's no real way to tell which one is more profitable. It depends on which types of sites that you can build the best.

    If you have no prior flipping experiences, script sites and blogs are the best stuff to flip around.

    Salespage type of sites (we called it 'product flip') may cost higher though. So be extra careful if you are planning to do a product flip.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by desmondblog View Post

      Hi Thomas,

      There's no real way to tell which one is more profitable. It depends on which types of sites that you can build the best.

      If you have no prior flipping experiences, script sites and blogs are the best stuff to flip around.

      Salespage type of sites (we called it 'product flip') may cost higher though. So be extra careful if you are planning to do a product flip.
      Luckily I plan on doing a product flip. lol

      I have done my own products since being in Internet Marketing so it shouldn't be too bad.


      Thanks,
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  • There was a thread a couple weeks back where a guy created a product, salespage, and blog. He marketed it as Clickbank Ready. That was much better than the $97, and $47 flips. I dont think he had any sales with it, either.

    It actually looked REALLY good. I think he got $397 for it if I remember. He even posted a link to the sitepoint auction.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

      There was a thread a couple weeks back where a guy created a product, salespage, and blog. He marketed it as Clickbank Ready. That was much better than the $97, and $47 flips. I dont think he had any sales with it, either.

      It actually looked REALLY good. I think he got $397 for it if I remember. He even posted a link to the sitepoint auction.
      Thanks Charles.

      I will do a little search. I am going to test a full turnkey solution. With traffic and without.

      I am going to test some flips for a product I created for an upcoming launch.

      Just some ways they can make money with my product.
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  • Profile picture of the author Droopy Dawg
    Hey Thomas... I think you'll do fine as long as you offer them something that can make them MONEY.

    I noticed you'll get bids if:

    a) Your site gets tons of traffic (that you can prove), in which they can sell/rent ad space

    b) Your site has a great product with a great site that they can simply "plug and play".

    There are a few people over at Sitepoint that does REAL well, and it shows by the excellent products they auction off.

    This guy - http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/users/259231/profile

    This Lady - http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/users/297484/profile
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Droopy Dawg View Post

      Hey Thomas... I think you'll do fine as long as you offer them something that can make them MONEY.

      I noticed you'll get bids if:

      a) Your site gets tons of traffic (that you can prove), in which they can sell/rent ad space

      b) Your site has a great product with a great site that they can simply "plug and play".

      There are a few people over at Sitepoint that does REAL well, and it shows by the excellent products they auction off.

      This guy - http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/users/259231/profile

      This Lady - http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/users/297484/profile

      Thanks Droopy. I think the products will be no problem.

      What I am thinking will be turnkey including back end scripts. I am going to test without traffic as well as creating traffic and sales.


      Thanks for the links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Droopy Dawg
    Good luck Bro I hope it works out for ya!
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  • Profile picture of the author InternetM39482
    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

    I am going to test out a few flips based on some ideas I have.

    I did want some input from people that have flipped a few. Mainly if you found flipping a blog style website more lucrative compared to a sales page type of website.

    It will be selling a particular product but with the blog I could add more adsense, clickbank items and so on...

    I just wanted feedback if the blog approach with many profit streams would sell for more than a sales page with one product or package for sale.


    Tanks!
    Hey Thomas,

    The current market trend will tell that Product flips are going for a good price (more profits than a blog flip). I mean both those startup ones without any sales, or those that have been up there for some months and have made some sales.

    Whilst you can go ahead and add a blog, it may increase the overall perceived price and thus you may be able to sell it for a lil' more. One of my acquaintance sold her site (exactly similar to what you described) for $1300 and she made like 3 sales from August last year. But, I'd like to add that too many things in a single package may over-complicate things and a potential buyer may find it hard to maintain.

    However, look around the Sitepoint marketplace and you'll see sellers like Desmond (he replied above), SuiteJ, Biggy Fat rocking with blog flips as well.

    Swastik
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Swastik View Post

      Hey Thomas,

      The current market trend will tell that Product flips are going for a good price (more profits than a blog flip). I mean both those startup ones without any sales, or those that have been up there for some months and have made some sales.

      Whilst you can go ahead and add a blog, it may increase the overall perceived price and thus you may be able to sell it for a lil' more. One of my acquaintance sold her site (exactly similar to what you described) for $1300 and she made like 3 sales from August last year. But, I'd like to add that too many things in a single package may over-complicate things and a potential buyer may find it hard to maintain.

      However, look around the Sitepoint marketplace and you'll see sellers like Desmond (he replied above), SuiteJ, Biggy Fat rocking with blog flips as well.

      Swastik

      Thanks Swastik. That helped a lot. It sounds like I am on the right path.


      Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author eMarketing_Tips
    Cool flip info lol! thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Another question for the gurus here.

      I am doing some research on sitepoint right now.

      In your experience, does a site sell more when it is clickbank ready? I was thinking of setting it up on its own affiliate - download delivery script.


      Tanks again!
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  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    Hey Thomas:

    Let me go ahead and offer my two cents. To start off and make that first $100 in the next 24 hours you should go ahead and do a quick blog flip. I'm not sure if you write your own articles or not but if you do, by all means go for it. But if not, PLR articles will suffice BUT the value of PLR flips are lower than unique flips (but still sell).

    I personally think it's time to give the Revolution Church theme a rest. That particular theme is getting so saturated it isn't funny (thanks to its ease of use). BUT if you can stand out (i.e., create something no one else has), you can sell Revolution Church sites like hotcakes. It is easily customizable, just ask Swastik (he replied above).

    Oh, and remember these few rules (well, my personal set of rules anyway):

    1. Don't list an auction for longer than three days (for the urgency factor).
    2. Set a reserve and a BIN.
    3. Listing an auction on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday at 1 PM and 6 PM (Central time) I have had success. No success whatsoever on Wednesday. Thursday I haven't tried, but I'm damn sure Friday and Saturday are no go.
    4. Do your market research of course. Find out what's selling and what isn't. Study the best in the game and you can step yours up.

    Basically a few of my "secrets" I guess but everyone will tell you differently haha. But whatever you choose to do, I wish you luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
      Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post


      I personally think it's time to give the Revolution Church theme a rest. That particular theme is getting so saturated it isn't funny (thanks to its ease of use).
      Hear, hear! That theme has been done to death. I don't use it myself because I have 0 technical ability so I couldn't customize it to make it look really good, but I've flipped a few sites using free magazine themes and they've sold well - probably just because they looked a bit different.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

      Hey Thomas:

      Let me go ahead and offer my two cents. To start off and make that first $100 in the next 24 hours you should go ahead and do a quick blog flip. I'm not sure if you write your own articles or not but if you do, by all means go for it. But if not, PLR articles will suffice BUT the value of PLR flips are lower than unique flips (but still sell).

      I personally think it's time to give the Revolution Church theme a rest. That particular theme is getting so saturated it isn't funny (thanks to its ease of use). BUT if you can stand out (i.e., create something no one else has), you can sell Revolution Church sites like hotcakes. It is easily customizable, just ask Swastik (he replied above).

      Oh, and remember these few rules (well, my personal set of rules anyway):

      1. Don't list an auction for longer than three days (for the urgency factor).
      2. Set a reserve and a BIN.
      3. Listing an auction on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday at 1 PM and 6 PM (Central time) I have had success. No success whatsoever on Wednesday. Thursday I haven't tried, but I'm damn sure Friday and Saturday are no go.
      4. Do your market research of course. Find out what's selling and what isn't. Study the best in the game and you can step yours up.

      Basically a few of my "secrets" I guess but everyone will tell you differently haha. But whatever you choose to do, I wish you luck.

      Thanks Biggy. I didnt even know of the Revolution Church theme but now I will have to use it. lol
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      • Profile picture of the author Cackle
        Hot niches with unique content sell faster than products from what I've seen.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by incomespace View Post

      flipping is short term thinking
      Really?

      Well, what if people were building up cash through flipping in order to pay for other projects?

      Or adding more capital for their adword campaigns selling affiliate products and/or cpa offers?
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      • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        Really?

        Well, what if people were building up cash through flipping in order to pay for other projects?

        Or adding more capital for their adword campaigns selling affiliate products and/or cpa offers?
        Then they could come up with faster, more creative ways of raising such money. The woman is right... why don't you just tell us how much you need for your bigger project and maybe we'll give it to you just to save you the agony of having to flip all those sites as a mere "stepping stone" to your internet marketing heaven.

        Eric
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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          Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

          Then they could come up with faster, more creative ways of raising such money. The woman is right... why don't you just tell us how much you need for your bigger project and maybe we'll give it to you just to save you the agony of having to flip all those sites as a mere "stepping stone" to your internet marketing heaven.

          Eric
          Dude, you need to stop trying to open doors with your head. It is really effecting your thought process.

          You are jumping to HUGE conclusions about me and what I need. I see you doing this a lot on this forum.

          I don't need any help with projects but thanks for asking. I am doing this for other reasons. Feel free to start another topic discussing more creative ways of generating money without site flipping.

          Try and pretend you know what you are talking about in another thread.
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          • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
            Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

            Dude, you need to stop trying to open doors with your head. It is really effecting your thought process.

            You are jumping to HUGE conclusions about me and what I need. I see you doing this a lot on this forum.
            Thomas, you're welcome to disagree with me, but you're not welcome to be rude about it. I've seen you being rude a lot in the forum.

            Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

            I don't need any help with projects but thanks for asking. I am doing this for other reasons. Feel free to start another topic discussing more creative ways of generating money without site flipping.

            Try and pretend you know what you are talking about in another thread.
            Let's see, if I simply scroll back, we see the following:

            Originally Posted by incomespace
            flipping is short term thinking
            Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

            Really?

            Well, what if people were building up cash through flipping in order to pay for other projects?

            Or adding more capital for their adword campaigns selling affiliate products and/or cpa offers?
            Flipping IS short-term thinking. The questions you asked seemed disingenuous because either you ARE flipping to pay for other projects or not; or, you ARE trying to add more capital for adwords campaigns (etc) or not. So, get to it then, why play games?... are you, or aren't you?

            So if you suggest that site flipping is good for such things then my reply still holds merit for anyone passing through, especially suggestible newcomers... because who the heck wants to waste precious time in a stepping stone activity when the same results can be had with greater efficiency and less hassle in dozens of other ways.

            I think you owe IncomeSpace an apology.

            Eric
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            • Profile picture of the author Kate Anderson
              Flipping CAN be short term if that's what you want it to be. For me, personally, I choose to use it as a way of building a customer base, establishing my brand for quality, and other benefits and opportunities that have been made available to me from my flips.. far and above the monetary aspect (although that's certainly good, too! =)

              Other people build entire businesses around flipping.. from offering low cost packages to get people into their hosting plans, mailing lists, affiliate programs, etc.. and others, use it for instant cash, thinking of it all in 'short term'.

              Sometimes there's more to things than meet the eye, and the aggressive tone of "There are other ways to do it, it's short term thinking, yadda" are obviously said from someone who doesn't do it.. right?

              So, what you see this as, looking from the outside-in is going to be different from people who are, (get this).. actually doing it!

              People can shake their heads at how I "waste precious time in a stepping stone activity", but personally, my walk way is pretty clear, and the pathway that these stones can lead you to, is pretty impressive.. just depends on what your objectives are and if you utilize the full potential that can come from developing & selling websites (or anything else, for that matter including whatever it is that you are involved in)

              Don't knock it til you try it..



              Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

              Thomas, you're welcome to disagree with me, but you're not welcome to be rude about it. I've seen you being rude a lot in the forum.

              Let's see, if I simply scroll back, we see the following:

              Flipping IS short-term thinking. The questions you asked seemed disingenuous because either you ARE flipping to pay for other projects or not; or, you ARE trying to add more capital for adwords campaigns (etc) or not. So, get to it then, why play games?... are you, or aren't you?

              So if you suggest that site flipping is good for such things then my reply still holds merit for anyone passing through, especially suggestible newcomers... because who the heck wants to waste precious time in a stepping stone activity when the same results can be had with greater efficiency and less hassle in dozens of other ways.

              I think you owe IncomeSpace an apology.

              Eric
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              • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                Originally Posted by Kate Anderson View Post

                Flipping CAN be short term if that's what you want it to be. For me, personally, I choose to use it as a way of building a customer base, establishing my brand for quality, and other benefits and opportunities that have been made available to me from my flips.. far and above the monetary aspect (although that's certainly good, too! =)

                Other people build entire businesses around flipping.. from offering low cost packages to get people into their hosting plans, mailing lists, affiliate programs, etc.. and others, use it for instant cash, thinking of it all in 'short term'.

                Sometimes there's more to things than meet the eye, and the aggressive tone of "There are other ways to do it, it's short term thinking, yadda" are obviously said from someone who doesn't do it.. right?

                So, what you see this as, looking from the outside-in is going to be different from people who are, (get this).. actually doing it!

                People can shake their heads at how I "waste precious time in a stepping stone activity", but personally, my walk way is pretty clear, and the pathway that these stones can lead you to, is pretty impressive.. just depends on what your objectives are and if you utilize the full potential that can come from developing & selling websites (or anything else, for that matter including whatever it is that you are involved in)

                Don't knock it til you try it..

                Great post Kate. You are definitely someone people can learn a lot from and thanks for your contributions.

                I guess website companies are not real businesses and only think short term.

                Also, who said that you can't build a list of happy customers that you can sell over and over again. I can see a business being built out of flipping sites just like anything else here. If I wasn't already finishing up a product I would look into this.

                Most of this stuff can be outsourced. Just think that you can have multiple sites being built. You can have some sites you sell quickly to pay for your outsourcing as well as creating some sites that you push traffic to and start aging.

                Then you can have a great mix of sites being promoted. The quick sites can help generate a customer's list that you can sell over and over again.

                I fail to see how this is any different than a lot of other business models being taught on this very forum.

                People need to think a little bigger than just one site flip.
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                • Profile picture of the author Kate Anderson
                  Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                  I fail to see how this is any different than a lot of other business models being taught on this very forum.

                  People need to think a little bigger than just one site flip.
                  You're right, it's no different, in fact, I've never had such a responsive, targeted mailing list in all of my 10 years online like I do now.. these are super hungry buyers!

                  I started flipping as a part time hobby.. I enjoyed it, and being a writer/copy writer, well it just made sense. Now, I have more orders than I can handle, I've set up a talented crew to help me, and I still have time for my own projects (such as the one in my, ahem, sig launching today), and I've made stronger connections with some of the "larger than life" guys/gals in the business than I ever have before.. like I said, 10 years online and 6 months flipping.. unbelievable difference in exposure, branding, the whole nine yards..

                  So, yep, there are easier ways to do it.. I could have sunk a small fortune in blasting ads all over the place, JV'd till I was blue in the face, spammed a forum or two until my post count was high and I was considered the resident expert.. but I prefer to build a business, build a brand and be paid for doing it.

                  Keep me posted on your auction listing.. love to check it out =)
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            • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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              Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

              Thomas, you're welcome to disagree with me, but you're not welcome to be rude about it. I've seen you being rude a lot in the forum.

              Let's see, if I simply scroll back, we see the following:

              Flipping IS short-term thinking. The questions you asked seemed disingenuous because either you ARE flipping to pay for other projects or not; or, you ARE trying to add more capital for adwords campaigns (etc) or not. So, get to it then, why play games?... are you, or aren't you?

              So if you suggest that site flipping is good for such things then my reply still holds merit for anyone passing through, especially suggestible newcomers... because who the heck wants to waste precious time in a stepping stone activity when the same results can be had with greater efficiency and less hassle in dozens of other ways.

              I think you owe IncomeSpace an apology.

              Eric
              Actually, I think you owe me an apology. As I said earlier in this thread I am doing some tests for a product of mine. I am doing some case studies for a product launch. Not that I need to explain anything to you. You just seem to jump to conclusions like in most of your posts.

              Maybe if you actually read before posting most of your crap you would have stopped. Now you just look foolish as well as rude yourself.

              I am just tired of the wannabe gurus coming here and trying to fake it till you make it.

              I am still waiting for your new thread post on creative ways to generate income besides flipping sites. I am sure a lot of new people would appreciate a post like that unless you were just talking out of your ass again.

              I know I would appreciate it since there are a lot of posts talking about needing money right away and I could just direct them to your wonderful guru post.
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              • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                Actually, I think you owe me an apology.

                As I said earlier in this thread I am doing some tests for a product of mine. I am doing some case studies for a product launch. Not that I need to explain anything to you. You just seem to jump to conclusions like in most of your posts.
                Au contrairre, my friend... as I said before, you're perfectly welcome to disagree with me, or attempt to set me straight, but you have no right to insult yet you do... and it's unmistakeable. So, get your head on straight and stick to the topic rather than insulting the person.

                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                Maybe if you actually read before posting most of your crap you would have stopped. Now you just look foolish as well as rude yourself.

                I am just tired of the wannabe gurus coming here and trying to fake it till you make it.
                Thomas, it's really simple... check out the "Thank You" count before you "jump to conclusions" about the quality of my posts. It makes you look foolish and rude for calling me foolish and rude. Like I said, you don't have to like what I say, or even agree with it, but you've no right to be so arrogant and insulting. I've not been that way towards you in spite of your dishing it.

                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                I am still waiting for your new thread post on creative ways to generate income besides flipping sites. I am sure a lot of new people would appreciate a post like that unless you were just talking out of your ass again.

                I know I would appreciate it since there are a lot of posts talking about needing money right away and I could just direct them to your wonderful guru post.
                lol thank you, Thomas. I do appreciate a good challenge. My experienced opinion when people come in wanting to make $3000 in the next month is that if people were willing to publicly share such secrets for free, that $3k would turn into a trickle very fast.

                Besides, our mini-thread here started out after you started playing sophmoric question games with someone who simply said that "flipping was short-term thinking" and I concurred with her based on your reply that suggested flipping was a means to an end.

                For, in that case, there are plenty of other more efficient means to those ends than flipping.

                Now, if you're going to do it like Kate, for the branding and long-term, that's another story. But that's not what you said when you attemping to refute the suggestion by "incomespace"...

                That's all, my friend. Please, no more insults (except in private )

                Best wishes,
                Eric
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                • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                  Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

                  Au contrairre, my friend... as I said before, you're perfectly welcome to disagree with me, or attempt to set me straight, but you have no right to insult yet you do... and it's unmistakeable. So, get your head on straight and stick to the topic rather than insulting the person.

                  Thomas, it's really simple... check out the "Thank You" count before you "jump to conclusions" about the quality of my posts. It makes you look foolish and rude for calling me foolish and rude. Like I said, you don't have to like what I say, or even agree with it, but you've no right to be so arrogant and insulting. I've not been that way towards you in spite of your dishing it.

                  lol thank you, Thomas. I do appreciate a good challenge. My experienced opinion when people come in wanting to make $3000 in the next month is that if people were willing to publicly share such secrets for free, that $3k would turn into a trickle very fast.

                  Besides, our mini-thread here started out after you started playing sophmoric question games with someone who simply said that "flipping was short-term thinking" and I concurred with her based on your reply that suggested flipping was a means to an end.

                  For, in that case, there are plenty of other more efficient means to those ends than flipping.

                  Now, if you're going to do it like Kate, for the branding and long-term, that's another story. But that's not what you said when you attemping to refute the suggestion by "incomespace"...

                  That's all, my friend. Please, no more insults (except in private )

                  Best wishes,
                  Eric

                  First, I am not your friend. I could care less of how many thanks you got. It means nothing just like post counts.


                  I am doing this for my own reasons. You are jumping to conclusions and I found your post telling me you will give me money instead of watching me flip was very rude. You know nothing about me, my business nor what I am trying to accomplish. That wasn't sticking to the topic but insinuating what my needs are which was a bogus assumption on your part. In fact just a way to put me down while trying to make yourself look cool.


                  I doubt you have much experience in anything you are talking about. In fact, most of your posts are just regurgitations of what others have said in previous posts.


                  Of course you will talk crap about better ways to making money than flipping sites but than say you can't tell. Yeah right. The ole fake it until you make it bit gets really old.


                  I am not interested in posting much on this forum because of idiots like you.
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                  • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    First, I am not your friend. I could care less of how many thanks you got. It means nothing just like post counts.
                    You're awfully sensitive, Thomas. That can't be good for the blood pressure. But, that being said, "friend" is a term of endearment. I still see you as a potential friend:
                    He drew a circle around himself in order to keep me out. I drew a circle around us both in order to keep him in.
                    Ain't up to you whether or not I continue to treat you as a friend. Anyways... moving on...

                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    I am doing this for my own reasons.
                    I believe you. But this all stemmed from your response to someone else... not about your own private reasons that you didn't share. I can only go by what you say.

                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    You are jumping to conclusions and I found your post telling me you will give me money instead of watching me flip was very rude.
                    Oh, alright, I didn't realize you were so sensitive. I was just trying to make a point that I would rather help you financially than watch you waste so much time doing what could be done more quickly and efficiently at least a dozen other ways. I thought you valued your time.

                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    You know nothing about me, my business nor what I am trying to accomplish. That wasn't sticking to the topic but insinuating what my needs are which was a bogus assumption on your part. In fact just a way to put me down while trying to make yourself look cool.
                    Noooo, no, I'm sorry I gave you that impression, but it's just the opposite. I don't need to put you down in order to look cool. I already am cool. But, so are you. I never questioned your coolness or insulted you. I just shared my thoughts on your refutation of someone's statement.

                    After all, this is a DISCUSSION forum.

                    We're just discussing... well, ideally... I know I am.

                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    I doubt you have much experience in anything you are talking about. In fact, most of your posts are just regurgitations of what others have said in previous posts.
                    Ok, since you saw fit to go there, I feel free to say that what you just said demonstrates a profound disconnect that those with a modicum of success have with newbies. Newbies NEED things to be restated, rehashed, regurgitated, reconsituted... and some people, such as myself, have different styles of stating things and some are more effective than others.

                    Why is that a bad thing? In reality, I am just inviting people to share and ponder and then answering questions, or challenging assumptions, as they arise. I can't make people ask questions on high-level marketing.. and it would be a travesty to attempt so for people who aren't ready for it.

                    In any case, my friend, I prefer to leave it up to each individual to decide about the quality of my posts for him or herself. Notice, I don't attack the quality of your other posts even though you don't have many thanks for them.

                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    Of course you will talk crap about better ways to making money than flipping sites but than say you can't tell. Yeah right. The ole fake it until you make it bit gets really old.
                    Ok, well, why don't you take your own medicen, then, and share with us all your precious secrets for site-flipping. Then I'll share a precious secret or two with you.

                    Come on, brother, I'm in... I'm good to go... but, you first.... what have you got in that site-flippin bag of yours?

                    Your friend,
                    Eric
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                    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                      Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post


                      Come on, brother, I'm in... I'm good to go... but, you first.... what have you got in that site-flippin bag of yours?

                      Your friend,
                      Eric
                      Keep trying to twist my comments BizBoost.

                      I am not overly sensitive, just tired of people coming here and pretending to know more than they do.

                      I never said I was an expert at flipping sites. I simply said it can be used to raise money for other projects. Not a short term solution imo but a long term solution as long as you are using the revenue to feed other projects to build up income streams.

                      Flipping sites can be an additional revenue stream for any business. It can be a cashcow to fund other projects until they become a cashcow. I never said you had to stop flipping sites once those others projects have taken off. Again you assumed that which is again incorrect.

                      This business is just like any other business. The company that manages their cashflow the best will be the most profitable.

                      You are the one that stated there are better options to raise money for other projects. I just said to post those because a lot of people would benefit.

                      Now you are trying to call me out. lol

                      Look, it is obvious you don't know any better ways to making fast money than site flipping. Otherwise you would be posting them instead of trying to redirect it towards me.
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                      • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
                        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                        Keep trying to twist my comments BizBoost.

                        I am not overly sensitive, just tired of people coming here and pretending to know more than they do.
                        Really? It's that widespread that you have to insult people and call them names? Maybe you're just a little too stressed out because nothing said in this thread warrants such behavior.

                        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                        I never said I was an expert at flipping sites. I simply said it can be used to raise money for other projects. Not a short term solution imo but a long term solution as long as you are using the revenue to feed other projects to build up income streams.

                        Flipping sites can be an additional revenue stream for any business. It can be a cashcow to fund other projects until they become a cashcow. I never said you had to stop flipping sites once those others projects have taken off. Again you assumed that which is again incorrect.
                        I assumed nothing. I saw you attempt to refute "incomespace"'s statement, "flipping is short term thinking" with not statements of experience and wisdom, but academic sophmoristry.

                        Even what you just said above would ring true for a newbie because it's ACADEMIC... it makes perfect sense on paper, or, in theory, but it is, as incomespace suggested short-term thinking UNLESS it is your main service... which it was not for you.

                        This is not about you and me. It was about your response to IncomeSpace which I addressed. Now you're trying to turn it into a showdown.

                        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                        This business is just like any other business. The company that manages their cashflow the best will be the most profitable.
                        Academic.... makes perfect sense on paper.

                        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                        You are the one that stated there are better options to raise money for other projects. I just said to post those because a lot of people would benefit.

                        Now you are trying to call me out. lol
                        You were the first to call anyone out telling me to prove I knew better ways. I agreed as long as you shared something of your personal strategy first. Because I can say, "Ebay", "Craigslist", "YouTube", "Advanced Forum Marketing", which are STRATEGIES... not tactics. While most people KNOW these strategies, they don't all have the same understanding of tactics.

                        So, share some of your site flipping TACTICS that make site-flipping such an awesome way to earn money to fund other projects, and I'll share some of mine in other realms and we'll see which is quicker and less costly in terms of time, effort and cashola.

                        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                        Look, it is obvious you don't know any better ways to making fast money than site flipping. Otherwise you would be posting them instead of trying to redirect it towards me.
                        The only thing obvious here is that when I sincerely questioned one of your replies, you resorted to insults. Now, if you want me to share some of my tactics so freely, then you'll have to pony up first so we're on even footing.

                        If you don't, I'll just assume you're the one who doesn't know better options to raise money more quickly or efficiently than flipping sites... and we can let it go at that.

                        Best wishes,
                        Eric
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                          Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post


                          Academic.... makes perfect sense on paper.



                          Best wishes,
                          Eric
                          Now I know you don't know what you are talking about after you made that statement regarding cashflow. That is unless you are not serious about business and this is just a hobby.

                          Reread what you wrote to me. You didn't make it a refute you made it personal when you said I will give you money so you won't have to flip websites. That is insulting as if I need your money.

                          There is nothing sincere about you my friend. I am sorry you thought my comments were insults. Like you, I was making sincere observations.

                          For the rest, no point in continuing the argument. I know you won't post anything of use in this thread. You keep trying to deflect by telling me to post. I never made any comments regarding better ways of making fast cash on the internet. You did.

                          Like I said, you are just talking out of your ass.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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          Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

          Then they could come up with faster, more creative ways of raising such money. The woman is right... why don't you just tell us how much you need for your bigger project and maybe we'll give it to you just to save you the agony of having to flip all those sites as a mere "stepping stone" to your internet marketing heaven.

          Eric
          This isn't suppose to be demeaning nor insulting? You wouldn't have the type of money that is required to invest in my projects.
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          • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
            Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

            This isn't suppose to be demeaning nor insulting? You wouldn't have the type of money that is required to invest in my projects.
            Gosh, Thomas, I sincerely apologize. You really and truly did not strike me as the sensitive type with all the insults I've seen you toss around in such a knee-jerk fashion. But, maybe that's actually a sign of being sensitive.

            So, I apologize. I meant that comment purely as "tongue-in-cheek" to clearly illustrate my position that site-flipping was an extremely inefficient short-term solution. But, as the woman earlier said, site-flipping IS (generally) short-term thinking with exceptions such as Kate, but you weren't one of those exceptions so a debate ensued.

            Alright, my apologies again... can we start over (I didn't take your insults personally)?

            Eric
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            • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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              Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

              Gosh, Thomas, I sincerely apologize. You really and truly did not strike me as the sensitive type with all the insults I've seen you toss around in such a knee-jerk fashion. But, maybe that's actually a sign of being sensitive.

              So, I apologize. I meant that comment purely as "tongue-in-cheek" to clearly illustrate my position that site-flipping was an extremely inefficient short-term solution. But, as the woman earlier said, site-flipping IS (generally) short-term thinking with exceptions such as Kate, but you weren't one of those exceptions so a debate ensued.

              Alright, my apologies again... can we start over (I didn't take your insults personally)?

              Eric
              There is nothing to start over. Now I am sensitive eh? lol


              Basically you are the type of poster that gets under my skin the most. Something I need to stop because it simply isn't worth it. You twist everything posted into something that just isn't the truth.


              I am not any exception to site flipping since I am doing it for a case study on a project. I already stated this before you even posted. Instead, you try to twist and make it sound like I am hurting for money.


              I have seen you do this many times on this forum. Twisting comments is like a hobby for you. Maybe it is something you get off on or a reading comprehension disability. It mainly screws up the whole thread like you did in this one.


              Listen, I do have a lot of customers on this forum. The last thing I need is some person insinuating things like me needing money, especially when it is false. It doesn't put a lot of faith into my customers in what I am selling and supporting.


              So when are you going to throw me the 50k I am going to use to finish up my current project to avoid selling my sites?

              BTW, that was the worst apology I have ever heard. Sorry but I cannot accept it as it was written.
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              • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                There is nothing to start over. Now I am sensitive eh? lol


                Basically you are the type of poster that gets under my skin the most. Something I need to stop because it simply isn't worth it. You twist everything posted into something that just isn't the truth.
                Hi, my friend.

                There's something you should know. A while back, I made a simple, friendly joke regarding a respected marketer who, benignly, and without evil intent, made an erroneous post. You referred to me as "boneheaded"... from then on, you were on the "to be needled" list.

                It just so happens this thread's topic was legitimate and of interest to me.

                But, that being said, consider the debt paid.

                Best wishes on flipping $50k worth of sites,
                Eric
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                • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                  Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

                  Hi, my friend.

                  There's something you should know. A while back, I made a simple, friendly joke regarding a respected marketer who, benignly, and without evil intent, made an erroneous post. You referred to me as "boneheaded"... from then on, you were on the "to be needled" list.

                  Consider the debt paid.

                  Best wishes on flipping $50k worth of sites,
                  Eric
                  That is what I thought. I had a feeling this was intentional. Funny that I didn't even remember it but you haven't forgotten. lol

                  No need to flip 50k worth of websites since I already have it. Keep twisting things around and I still think you are a bonehead. I didn't realize you were so sensitive and needed revenge after reading all of your funny jokes.

                  Keep needling away.
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                  • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
                    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                    Keep twisting things around and I still think you are a bonehead. I didn't realize you were so sensitive and needed revenge after reading all of your funny jokes. Keep needling away.
                    No, really, Thomas, it's ok. It's over. Your debt is paid. You can rest now.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                      Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

                      No, really, Thomas, it's ok. It's over. Your debt is paid. You can rest now.
                      Yes, I see you are busy arguing and insulting others in the review section. lol
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                      • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
                        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                        Yes, I see you are busy arguing with others in the review section. lol
                        Yes, it started when someone, with good intentions, tried to repay a debt of gratitude with some FREE ADVERTISING for that person in the main section.

                        Since we members moderate, I expressed concern that if we were all allowed to do that, then people could easily exploit/game it. As you well know by now, not all intellects were created equally and a few white knights came out of the woodwork to manufacture a fairy tale with "big, mean dragon" and a damsel-in-distress.

                        As a result, they all fell on their swords and the post was moved to a more appropriate section.

                        Glad to see you've got time to waste stalking me. Must mean you're doing well?

                        Best wishes,
                        Eric
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                        • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                          Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

                          Yes, it started when someone, with good intentions, tried to repay a debt of gratitude with some FREE ADVERTISING for that person in the main section.

                          Since we members moderate, I expressed concern that if we were all allowed to do that, then people could easily exploit/game it. As you well know by now, not all intellects were created equally and a few white knights came out of the woodwork to manufacture a fairy tale with "big, mean dragon" and a damsel-in-distress.

                          As a result, they all fell on their swords and the post was moved to a more appropriate section.

                          Glad to see you've got time to waste stalking me. Must mean you're doing well?

                          Best wishes,
                          Eric
                          I am doing great, thanks for asking. No not cyber stalking but then again that is you trying to make things up. I had someone pm me expressing how much of a bonehead you are and pointed me to that thread.

                          Your posts suggest that you are losing the intellect battle.
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                          • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
                            Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                            I am doing great, thanks for asking. No not cyber stalking but then again that is you trying to make things up. I had someone pm me expressing how much of a bonehead you are and pointed me to that thread.

                            Your posts suggest that you are losing the intellect battle.
                            I believe you were PM'd from Yikes who didn't even read the whole thread which resulted in a false accusation. Anyone with an eye for detail and secure emotions can go find out for themselves.

                            Anyways, as far as the intellect battle... was there a battle? If so, I give you the win... you're amazing. Thanks for the lesson.

                            Eric
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                            • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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                              Originally Posted by BizBoost View Post

                              I believe you were PM'd from Yikes who didn't even read the whole thread which resulted in a false accusation. Anyone with an eye for detail and secure emotions can go find out for themselves.

                              Anyways, as far as the intellect battle... was there a battle? If so, I give you the win... you're amazing. Thanks for the lesson.

                              Eric
                              Actually, there have been a few more pm's.

                              I was speaking in regards to your intellect dig on Yikes. You sure are insulting a lot of people tonight.

                              I guess that means you are not secure with your emotions.
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                              • Profile picture of the author BizBoost
                                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                                Actually, there have been a few more pm's.
                                You have a gossip circle. I'm envious.

                                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                                I was speaking in regards to your intellect dig on Yikes. You sure are insulting a lot of people tonight.
                                I guess you can't please everyone.

                                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                                I guess that means you are not secure with your emotions.
                                I guess not. You win again. Thanks.

                                Eric
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                                • Profile picture of the author ic7
                                  This thread brings up questions about Site Flipping as a solid Business Model. I would say this is a pretty important subject. There's a thread at Sitepoint that discusses this:

                                  Starting Siteflipping Company Requires Help - SitePoint Forums

                                  Great discussion there and more here:

                                  siteflipu.com Sold

                                  I think if people focus just on the flips themselves, then Flipping is probably not a good business model. On the other hand, Flipping can be just the beginning of a much larger business. As Kate said, building the email list, offering more services to the list, selling directly to them, etc.

                                  Anyway, interesting stuff. I think Flipping is the type of activity that brings new people into the online moneymaking world. I see it as a good starting point.

                                  Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author Quilst
      Originally Posted by incomespace View Post

      flipping is short term thinking
      Nope, couldn't disagree more

      Site flipping takes time to develop and if it can take you less time with proper maintain you could get more for less work.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Originally Posted by Quilst View Post

        Nope, couldn't disagree more

        Site flipping takes time to develop and if it can take you less time with proper maintain you could get more for less work.
        They are just trying to get their post count up.
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    • Profile picture of the author MeTellYou
      Originally Posted by incomespace View Post

      flipping is short term thinking
      Have you ever tried to look into flipping for more than 5 seconds... I am sorry if I sound harsh, but I don't think you would have said that if you actually knew more about it.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    On Sitepoint the sales pages (Clickbank Ready) are going for more money than the blogs but blogs do very well. In either case, the competition is steep and designs are outstanding on a lot of them so whatever it is, it needs to be competitive in design and features.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    I've been taking a rest from flipping myself but my prior research at Sitepoint has always shown that the Sales Page type sites with a product are much more lucrative (well, I guess that depends on how much you have invested in the product) and more desirable.

    I think Clickbank ready is a must - I've only ever listed 2 sales page type sites with a product but both times got lots of questions about clickbank.

    Plus I think you will have to spend less time on customer support with this type of site. The blogs can be kind of support intensive, especially if you sell to a newbie. My after-sale support time for some of my customers amounts to many hours which I do for free and most of the time the questions are not related to my site at all but are basic wordpress questions like "how to upload a photo" etc...

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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      I've been taking a rest from flipping myself but my prior research at Sitepoint has always shown that the Sales Page type sites with a product are much more lucrative (well, I guess that depends on how much you have invested in the product) and more desirable.

      I think Clickbank ready is a must - I've only ever listed 2 sales page type sites with a product but both times got lots of questions about clickbank.

      Plus I think you will have to spend less time on customer support with this type of site. The blogs can be kind of support intensive, especially if you sell to a newbie. My after-sale support time for some of my customers amounts to many hours which I do for free and most of the time the questions are not related to my site at all but are basic wordpress questions like "how to upload a photo" etc...

      Lee
      Thank you Lee. That post helped a lot.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      I've been taking a rest from flipping myself but my prior research at Sitepoint has always shown that the Sales Page type sites with a product are much more lucrative (well, I guess that depends on how much you have invested in the product) and more desirable.

      I think Clickbank ready is a must - I've only ever listed 2 sales page type sites with a product but both times got lots of questions about clickbank.

      Plus I think you will have to spend less time on customer support with this type of site. The blogs can be kind of support intensive, especially if you sell to a newbie. My after-sale support time for some of my customers amounts to many hours which I do for free and most of the time the questions are not related to my site at all but are basic wordpress questions like "how to upload a photo" etc...

      Lee
      I agree that Clickbank ready is more lucrative, but already sales of these type of products have dropped considerably since Kate Anderson's Flip Mastery - nearly everyone is doing CB ready now.

      If you could come up with something a bit different that no one else is doing there's alot of potential on Sitepoint, but you won't have the monopoly for long.

      I've spent alot of time on support for wordpress blogs as well - probably 90% of my blogs have been bought by newbies. I try to just do the transfer and then any questions they have I just refer them to Youtube - there's a video to answer nearly any wordpress question there. Because most are newbies though I've managed to get about 50% of them to sign up for Hostgator through my affiliate link and that makes up for the time I spend on support.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kate Anderson
        Oh sure, put the blame on me, Hamida!

        People who produce quality sites are still selling them, and those who are struggling need to take a step back and figure out how they can improve on their offers. Don't just copy what everyone else is doing.. try something new (new blog theme, new layout, new way of presenting your offer, new everything).

        The problem isn't in lack of demand, or saturation in the marketplace of high quality products, it's in saturation of a 'monkey see, monkey do' routine. People see someone sell and they copy their model, rather than "base it off of a successful format", they outright copy it.

        Then, in a matter of weeks the marketplace has seen it a thousand times, and no one's impressed anymore.

        It's time to change things up. Try being different, more creative.. follow a basic guideline of what's selling but put your own spin on it and present it in a new way.. It will work, trust me.


        Originally Posted by Hamida Harland View Post

        I agree that Clickbank ready is more lucrative, but already sales of these type of products have dropped considerably since Kate Anderson's Flip Mastery - nearly everyone is doing CB ready now.
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        • Profile picture of the author SuiteJ
          Originally Posted by Kate Anderson View Post

          Don't just copy what everyone else is doing.. try something new (new blog theme, new layout, new way of presenting your offer, new everything).

          The problem isn't in lack of demand, or saturation in the marketplace of high quality products, it's in saturation of a 'monkey see, monkey do' routine. People see someone sell and they copy their model, rather than "base it off of a successful format", they outright copy it.
          .
          You certainly nailed that one on the head, Kate. I remember at around the same time people started duplicating your sites (or trying!), they were also copying my blogs and jacking my sales pages (I don't mind borrowing, but copy and pasting the whole thing is a tad annoying lol)

          Actually, didn't we rant about that once. lol

          Anyway, you're totally right. Focus on quality sites that are unique to you and you will find you'll build a reputation that creates a following of repeat buyers and a solid foundation you can rely on.

          Flippng sites FAST is great, but CRAP doesn't sell. At least it doesn't anymore. lol.

          Cheers
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        Originally Posted by Hamida Harland View Post

        I agree that Clickbank ready is more lucrative, but already sales of these type of products have dropped considerably since Kate Anderson's Flip Mastery - nearly everyone is doing CB ready now.
        Thanks Hamida. I was thinking of a complete turnkey package with download script as well as clickbank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
    Wow, lots of kickass info in this thread.

    I was planning on doing the same thing Thomas (this will be my first attempt at a site flip) and I was wondering, what kind of marketing will you be using for this?

    I personally have read that selling say a blog with the site (possibly squidoo's and such too) could make a difference too. I don't have a lot of conclusive info for you, but this thread is giving me more ideas.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Buildingfutures View Post

      Wow, lots of kickass info in this thread.

      I was planning on doing the same thing Thomas (this will be my first attempt at a site flip) and I was wondering, what kind of marketing will you be using for this?

      I personally have read that selling say a blog with the site (possibly squidoo's and such too) could make a difference too. I don't have a lot of conclusive info for you, but this thread is giving me more ideas.
      I will be listing them on sitepoint. There seems to be a lot of activity on that site.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kate Anderson
        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        I will be listing them on sitepoint. There seems to be a lot of activity on that site.
        List them up on SP and set up a squeeze page for buyers who want to receive alerts whenever you post an auction. Do that for a few weeks, and once you have a good size list, you can flip them to it directly.. I don't post much on SP anymore, I privately flip to my list (just sold two sites last night, and another $10k in sales last week doing the same thing and no, this isn't my full time job which is why I am floored when people overlook the potential).

        I set my listings up so when I email my list privately, the first one who responds and claims it, gets it.. works really well, and I avoid distracting my buyers with 1,000's of other auctions on SP that way
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        • Profile picture of the author MeTellYou
          Originally Posted by Kate Anderson View Post

          List them up on SP and set up a squeeze page for buyers who want to receive alerts whenever you post an auction. Do that for a few weeks, and once you have a good size list, you can flip them to it directly.. I don't post much on SP anymore, I privately flip to my list (just sold two sites last night, and another $10k in sales last week doing the same thing).

          First one who responds and claims it, gets it.. works really well, and I avoid distracting my buyers with 1,000 other auctions on SP that way
          Great point. If you write your content yourself, then it's pure profit (minus the domain name)


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        • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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          Originally Posted by Kate Anderson View Post

          List them up on SP and set up a squeeze page for buyers who want to receive alerts whenever you post an auction. Do that for a few weeks, and once you have a good size list, you can flip them to it directly.. I don't post much on SP anymore, I privately flip to my list (just sold two sites last night, and another $10k in sales last week doing the same thing and no, this isn't my full time job which is why I am floored when people overlook the potential).

          First one who responds and claims it, gets it.. works really well, and I avoid distracting my buyers with 1,000 other auctions on SP that way
          I have to purchase your course now.


          BTW, thanks for responding to my PM.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kate Anderson
      Originally Posted by Buildingfutures View Post

      I personally have read that selling say a blog with the site (possibly squidoo's and such too) could make a difference too. I don't have a lot of conclusive info for you, but this thread is giving me more ideas.
      I've bundled them up a few times here and there (ebook site/w blog) and they do increase the value, absolutely. Just set the blog up on its own hosting account with HG and hand it over.. they can upgrade the account if they wish to host the ebook site and blog on the same account, but it's easier for you to just automate the delivery quickly.

      I have never tried a Squidoo lens with an ebook package.. thought of it before, but really didn't think it would add much value to the package.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    I just saw this thread. I'll throw a few tips in. My experience has been if you have just a little patience and setup a site and get some traffic and income and post proof, the sale amount jumps considerably. Angela E. and others have backlinking wsos to help jumpstart a new site. Google will also give you a hand that first month for unique content. Set it up, backlink, get a few sales and/or some adsense income, wait 31 days (to list it as an established website) and bansai! Anyway, hope this helps.

    TomG.

    OOPS, almost forgot. Setup some free supporting websites and throw those into the auction, ie. hubs, lenses, blogger blogs, you get the idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by tommygadget View Post

      I just saw this thread. I'll throw a few tips in. My experience has been if you have just a little patience and setup a site and get some traffic and income and post proof, the sale amount jumps considerably. Angela E. and others have backlinking wsos to help jumpstart a new site. Google will also give you a hand that first month for unique content. Set it up, backlink, get a few sales and/or some adsense income, wait 31 days (to list it as an established website) and bansai! Anyway, hope this helps.

      TomG.

      OOPS, almost forgot. Setup some free supporting websites and throw those into the auction, ie. hubs, lenses, blogger blogs, you get the idea.

      Thanks Tom. I will be testing both. Established as well as quick flips. I have a feeling I will see the same results as you stated.
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  • Profile picture of the author abelacts
    I used to flip blog style sites. People will go after unique content (fetch higher price) but I did okay with some sites having duplicate PLR content.

    To add values, you can throw in a forum (just install from Fantastico) and Amazon product catalogs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Pereira
    Product sites with revenue sell for more than blogs generally.

    Further more, unique scripts (or software) sites with revenue tend to sell for more than eBook product sites. People prefer software to eBooks for some reason I've found.

    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Jason Pereira View Post

      Product sites with revenue sell for more than blogs generally.

      Further more, unique scripts (or software) sites with revenue tend to sell for more than eBook product sites. People prefer software to eBooks for some reason I've found.

      Good luck.
      Awesome Jason. That is exactly where I am going with this.
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    already sales of these type of products have dropped considerably since Kate Anderson's Flip Mastery - nearly everyone is doing CB ready now.
    Ahh, yes, I didn't think about that. I hadn't sold stuff since before then, I think.

    Thanks for mentioning the tip about sending them to youtube - I didn't think about that. I actually made a bunch of videos for my peeps to try to help them out. Be much easier to go to youtube and find one that's already there!

    The problem isn't in lack of demand, or saturation in the marketplace of high quality products, it's in saturation of a 'monkey see, monkey do' routine.
    These are wise words. I remember seeing how well your auctions did last year and thinking about how selling those types of sites were so much different than what everyone else was doing (at the time) and wondering "Now why didn't I think of that?" LOL!

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  • Profile picture of the author SaSeoPete
    This is a great thread thanks Thomas.

    I don't have anything worthwhile to add, but I would really like to start site flipping too and see how I go. Great tips here to get me started.
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      Originally Posted by SaSeoPete View Post

      This is a great thread thanks Thomas.

      I don't have anything worthwhile to add, but I would really like to start site flipping too and see how I go. Great tips here to get me started.
      Good luck with it SaSeoPete and remember there are a lot of people with great experience on this forum that are incredibly helpful. You just saw that in this thread.


      I would like to thank everyone for their advice. It helped a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kate Anderson
    Originally Posted by Traffic-Bug View Post

    It depends and varies based on particular niches. Sometimes blogs are worth more than websites.
    Gosh, I'm on a posting spree!

    Established blogs, definitely.. but when it comes to start ups, competing head to head - a blog vs an original ebook website - I've never seen a blog flip for more than a site.. ever.
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  • Profile picture of the author dclozen
    Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

    I am going to test out a few flips based on some ideas I have.

    I did want some input from people that have flipped a few. Mainly if you found flipping a blog style website more lucrative compared to a sales page type of website.

    It will be selling a particular product but with the blog I could add more adsense, clickbank items and so on...

    I just wanted feedback if the blog approach with many profit streams would sell for more than a sales page with one product or package for sale.

    Why not try setting up a multi page web site that's both a blog and marketplace that way you would have the best of both worlds. Both
    blog for keyword insertion and trafficking and market place for income.


    Tanks!
    Why not try setting up a multi page web site that's both a blog and marketplace that way you would have the best of both worlds. Both
    blog for keyword insertion and trafficking and market place for income.
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