Starting Backlinking business

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I was thinking of starting a backlinking business. Any suggestions on this? I was going to use a software program to run all the backlink orders. Is this in high demand or has it been shot to hell since the new google update?
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  • Profile picture of the author CalinDan
    If you reaaaaaaaally provide a quality service, people will use it. It helps with their indexing and so forth. I still use some services for my review sites.

    But, if you're only doing it to make money of it ...and forget about the link juice and quality, I say try something else.

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    Dan
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    • Profile picture of the author kentcrossfit
      Originally Posted by CalinDan View Post

      If you reaaaaaaaally provide a quality service, people will use it. It helps with their indexing and so forth. I still use some services for my review sites.

      But, if you're only doing it to make money of it ...and forget about the link juice and quality, I say try something else.

      Regards,
      Dan
      Yea I wouldn't do it just to make money and provide a shotty service. That kind of business is very temporary. I was thinking of using Senuke xcr. I've heard some good stuff about it any insight on that software? It's just quite an investment and I WOULD want it to help my customers get quality links and not spammy links that are garbage.

      I would of course test it on my own websites prior to using it on anyone elses, and if the results were good then I would proceed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by kentcrossfit View Post

    Is this in high demand or has it been shot to hell since the new google update?
    Both.

    There are threads started off here, daily, by people wanting to hear recommendations for automated spammy backlinking services which won't benefit their sites at all and may easily get them heavily penalized.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jesse L
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Both.

      There are threads started off here, daily, by people wanting to hear recommendations for automated spammy backlinking services which won't benefit their sites at all and may easily get them heavily penalized.
      It is amazing how people become deaf when work is mentioned. It is also amazing at just how hard people work in order not to work. :confused:

      Alexa, do you think people listen when you tell them the truth and the truth isn't what they want to hear?
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      • Profile picture of the author kentcrossfit
        Originally Posted by Jesse L View Post

        It is amazing how people become deaf when work is mentioned. It is also amazing at just how hard people work in order not to work. :confused:

        Alexa, do you think people listen when you tell them the truth and the truth isn't what they want to hear?
        I don't really understand this comment. Could you please go more in depth on this? I just don't see what this added to the thread. I don't mean to be rude, I'm just saying.
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          • Profile picture of the author kentcrossfit
            Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

            I think Jesse, like a lot of the rest of us, has read a lot of Alexa's posts and realizes that a lot of people still continue to try the same, stupid tricks every single day and then wonder why they fail.

            Alexa's one of the most informative people you could hope to follow here at the WF...she sells nothing, she asks for nothing, and I'm fairly certain if you took the time to ask her, she'd give you a small list of posts that are worth more than any TEN WSO's you could buy.

            -- j
            Oh yea. But I mean that's not what I'm looking for. I'm not afraid to work or looking for a way to get out of working. I'm just thinking. lol. I've worked for the past month doing nothing but spending money on a venture that ended up not making me a cent. So working to MAKE something would actually be great, just haven't found the right thing for me I guess.

            And I don't buy WSO's they are all a waste of money. The information on here is worth more than 99 % of these WSO's.
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              • Profile picture of the author kentcrossfit
                Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

                Gotcha. Forgive me if I accidentally implied that you were one of those people...I've got some personal things going on and I'm a little brain dead today. Your replies in this thread show me that you're actually looking for some help and you don't seem like the other people that I was referring to at all.

                -- j
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Jesse L View Post

        Alexa, do you think people listen when you tell them the truth and the truth isn't what they want to hear?
        LOL, I never know! Being a skepchick, I often think they don't. But on occasions when I've "voiced" that concern before, I've always ended up with private messages from others (often people I don't know at all) assuring me that being really open about stuff helps other readers, too. So I suppose the answer's "some"?

        Originally Posted by kentcrossfit View Post

        I don't really understand this comment. Could you please go more in depth on this? I just don't see what this added to the thread. I don't mean to be rude, I'm just saying.
        I think Jesse intended it as just a comment aimed at me, because I've made something of a habit (in many other threads) of telling people what I think they need to hear rather than what they want to hear. Apologies for the distraction from your thread.
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        • Profile picture of the author kentcrossfit
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          LOL, I never know! Being a skepchick, I often think they don't. But on occasions when I've "voiced" that concern before, I've always ended up with private messages from others (often people I don't know at all) assuring me that being really open about stuff helps other readers, too. So I suppose the answer's "some"?



          I think Jesse intended it as just a comment aimed at me, because I've made something of a habit (in many other threads) of telling people what I think they need to hear rather than what they want to hear. Apologies for the distraction from your thread.
          No apology necessary. I was just wasn't sure what she meant thats all . And I'm not looking for "quick cash". I'm looking for ANYWAY to EARN money online, because if it exists it has been eluding me very well. But somehow I see people all around me (On the forum) who are apparently making at least some positive ROI.

          So I'm just still looking. Hell as soon as I make a dollar doing something I'll know I'm on the right path.
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  • Profile picture of the author WeavingThoughts
    Senuke is exactly what a *shotty* backlinking service uses.

    If you want to backlinking then hire VAs who write individual comments/articles/blog posts etc and manually post them to each website, one at a time. No push button crap.
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    • Profile picture of the author kentcrossfit
      Originally Posted by WeavingThoughts View Post

      Senuke is exactly what a *shotty* backlinking service uses.

      If you want to backlinking then hire VAs who write individual comments/articles/blog posts etc and manually post them to each website, one at a time. No push button crap.
      Nice insight. Thanks for the heads up!
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  • Profile picture of the author kentcrossfit
    God damn the google god!! *Shakes fist towards sky!*
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
    Originally Posted by kentcrossfit View Post

    I was thinking of starting a backlinking business. Any suggestions on this? I was going to use a software program to run all the backlink orders. Is this in high demand or has it been shot to hell since the new google update?
    I would highly recommend against starting a backlink/spam business. Why start a business where your services actually hurt the people who use them?
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    • Profile picture of the author kentcrossfit
      Originally Posted by Paul Gram View Post

      I would highly recommend against starting a backlink/spam business. Why start a business where your services actually hurt the people who use them?
      I'm glad that the vote seems to be very clear. In pursuing this I will investigate how to create high quality backlinks manually and the best places to put them. Maybe dive more into the SEO all together too.
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  • Profile picture of the author WeavingThoughts
    You should hire Filipino or third world VAs and train them for a few weeks before you start a manual link building business You will need to price yourself higher than the market rate due to the extra costs involved for a manual service, but your service will at least get results.
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    • Profile picture of the author kentcrossfit
      Originally Posted by WeavingThoughts View Post

      You should hire Filipino or third world VAs and train them for a few weeks before you start a manual link building business You will need to price yourself higher than the market rate due to the extra costs involved for a manual service, but your service will at least get results.
      Weavingthoughts,
      Could you or anyone else point me in a direction on how to find out the most ideal place to put backlinks? I mean I don't just want to go to some website that has nothing to do with what I'm trying to link to and post some links do I?
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      • Profile picture of the author kentcrossfit
        Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

        If you can find a way to do this cost-efficiently, put me on your short list of people to contact. I'm very interested. Backlinking is my least-favorite thing in all of SEO, and I'd love to outsource that task.



        The only problem here WT is that the people who can afford to work very cheaply (compared to us for example) often can't read or write in passable English. I had a Vietnamese lady doing my backlinking for me before the Sept 28th update...I wanted short (2-3 sentence) blurbs with my backlinks in them, but they could only do profile links due to limited English. They also couldn't readily post to the sites I needed them to post to due to very limited ability with communication.

        If OP can get around this, though, I think I can refer a TON of business to him.

        -- j
        Well I'll keep you updated as I progress. I hate doing it as well. But it's something we all gotta do if we don't want to be on page 500 of google. If anything I need to find the most efficient and effective way to go about doing it if I'm going to do it or outsource it.

        Hell I'll do it myself and all of the backlinks will be EXTREMELY relevant and have good content if people are willing to pay for a better product. I mean I could have like 10 - 15 people I do "drip feeds" of backlinks all month long and they pay a monthly price.

        I just need to find out how to find the best places to place them.
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  • Profile picture of the author nobluff
    Originally Posted by kentcrossfit View Post

    I was thinking of starting a backlinking business. Any suggestions on this? I was going to use a software program to run all the backlink orders. Is this in high demand or has it been shot to hell since the new google update?
    From the start people are going to be suspicious of your offer of building backlinks, and this is entirely due to the vast amount of scammers that are in this niche, so this is the first thing you are going to have to resolve. Once you add software to link building you are increasing suspicion exponentially. That being said, once you have a loyal following, they will be extremely loyal as a decent backlinker is hard to find (personally haven't found one that uses software).
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    The demand is unreal and growing. Google created its own monster, but they do not want to go back to having content decide ranking for web pages. Thus the price for an ordinary PR4 permalink keeps on going up. Wish that Google did learn their lesson and started using plus one more. However many companies would simply hire a click brigade right away.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Stevens
    This is going to have to be smarter than Google's algorithm if it's going to work. Google does not like artificial links or links that are paid for.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by George Stevens View Post

      This is going to have to be smarter than Google's algorithm if it's going to work. Google does not like artificial links or links that are paid for.
      google changes faster than I can change underpants these days. :p

      Back linking services are so so, flood your site with them to quick, and its not a good thing.....but I think right now google classes them as that annoying mosquito buzzing around you ear when you are trying to get to sleep......zzzZZZzzzzzzZZZZZzzzzzZZZ LOL :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author neralu
    Well , its again a debatable item for using or not using senuke xcr.. however, if u go and look at the testimonials... tonnes of people are using it and they are getting benefited. with recent new feature of creation of script urself has made drastic revolution in these services.. if u just head towards fiverr, there are tonnes of people making good amount of money selling senukex campaigns.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by neralu View Post

      Well , its again a debatable item for using or not using senuke xcr..
      I think not.

      This forum's full of people who've had their sites heavily penalized by Google for using this software, and many of them have been told openly by Google that that was the reason.

      Automated backlinks from non-context-relevant sites, of the type achieved by such software, have no real value anyway. I respect your right to disagree, but to me it doesn't seem worth discussing much.

      Originally Posted by neralu View Post

      however, if u go and look at the testimonials... tonnes of people are using it and they are getting benefited.
      Now?

      Since Google's recent updates?

      I don't think so.

      Call me a skepchick, but could it possibly be that people selling those things, and/or services entailing their use, might be aware that their sales pages will be something of a "bald and unconvincing narrative" without some "suitable testimonials"?

      Originally Posted by neralu View Post

      if u just head towards fiverr, there are tonnes of people making good amount of money selling senukex campaigns.
      Nobody's questioning that "service" providers are still attracting ill-informed/uninformed customers, and that the "service" providers themselves are the ones gaining something.

      But the people thanking them, there, are thanking them for their performance of the service, typically on the day it's completed, not attesting to the fact that they're benefitting from it. It's exactly the same as people whose WSO testimonial, just after downloading the product, reads "Looks great, thank you" (i.e. typically written before they've actually used/tested it). If you imagine that those are "testimonials" in any meaningful or significant sense at all, then we're certainly using the word "testimonials" very differently indeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author angshuy2k
    Hiya,

    Backlinking services still work, as long as your campaign methods are well structured and made for your clients benefits.

    You can surely use automated software to built links but the question is -
    i) Quality of the link
    ii) Types of links
    iii) Campaign types

    Ok now lets see, you have made 100 Backlinks using automated software then next thing you want to make sure is that those 100 links are at least maintained with quality information ( i.e. beneficial / informative to your future / potential customers ) and a well informed site to which each of them will point towards. Maintaining social network, profile, bookmark account in due course or ask your customer that they should maintain this backlinks with useful information or else: end point ( Spammy ) Backlinks.

    I would agree to the disagreement Alexa, just presented and would surely say, fiverr senuke, for only $5 think how much can you do for just five, most of the people including myself can only provide suggestion to the customers that these links that I have build for you - I am giving you user name and passwords for each links built and please maintain and fix it and put your company logo, website logo, some brief description and add friends to the links and give them some offline marketing tips. However, all other customers out side the fiverr payes 300 times more to create, nurture and maintain theier IM campaings where they look for quality with quantity and ofcourse with a toolkit to measure the success and failure of a marketing campaign.

    What I can suggest you can do is use fiverr as a testing the water and ask you customers about one thing-
    1) This backlinks that I am building for only $5 is just tester and will give you nothing but backlinks which is of mixed quality but if you really want the quality work with long term results then I can provide you with -
    a) On site SEO optimization Suggestion
    b) Weekly status report on your online and offline marketing
    c) Weekly link building ( PR, Article ( Unique Self Written, Maintain Social Network site presence with adding friends and others and keep tweeting from one account and not having multiple spammy account )

    I mean to say, use automated software to make your work easier and then fine tune the automated backlinks to give it a test of genuine links from High PR sources. ( And charge for it ) If they start to show results with your well researched campaign then surely from one campaign you will hit the market from word of mouth in no time.

    More often, I have seen ill informed customers running behind backlinks ( Alexa said ); I agree and as an Internet Marketer it is our job to make our customers understand about what they are looking for and actual cost of marketing. You can say that like this way:
    Q.1 Do you want 1 million Backlinks ? With my internet marketing campaign or
    Q.2 Do you want 1 million prospective customers from my internet marketing campaign ?

    If the customer settle for Q1 then make them understand what might be internet marketing and even after that they want 1 million backlinks use automated link Creation software and give them what they want for $5,10,20,30 or what ever you think is right.

    If they settle for Q 2. then plan, design, consult and deploy your marketing strategy and work with your client for internet marketing and give them a quotation for pricing which normally includes ( My time as cost + Campaign cost( i.e. advertisement both online and offline, link building etc + blah blah ) But of course logical Charge for full SEO ( Tell them straight about marketing cost with worked out example.

    If the customer wants to settle for both ( Oh well you know what to do ).

    Anyway, automation software that works for me are as follows:
    a) Areeb's Senuke with TBS and capthca sniper
    b) Scrape box
    c) Xrumer ( 10% usages ) unless someone ask about.
    d) Sick Submitter

    But this are just automation tools for backlinks and then how you can modify them to give the best to your customer depends on the money they give and time you spent on each marketing campaign ( of course let your customer know what you are doing and walk with them )

    If they are just happy as it is then use automation and give them trillions of links if not they are wise enough to make it a successful campaign by spend the appropriate money and you know what to do.

    A friend and your well wisher,

    Kind regards,
    Swrajit

    Originally Posted by kentcrossfit View Post

    I was thinking of starting a backlinking business. Any suggestions on this? I was going to use a software program to run all the backlink orders. Is this in high demand or has it been shot to hell since the new google update?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Just in case readers of this thread want more independent information (i.e. from members not promoting automated linkbuiding services in their signature-files), this thread from today is quite a good place to start: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-software.html
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        • Widening your market reach;
        • Exposing your brand name in places where your target audiences hang out as a friendly expert resource of relevant, timely and useful content, products and services;
        • Siphoning targeted traffic from those places to your website; and
        • Offering in your website supplemental content, products and services not found elsewhere to nurture repeat business...
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