Is WF no longer free to join?

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Hey there, can someone put me straight as I can seem to find the info anywhere. Is our forum no longer free to join? I'm asking because I sent a few people here and they are coming back to me with news that it's no longer free to join and is now a $10 joining fee.


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Manie
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    Originally Posted by Manie Amari View Post

    Hey there, can someone put me straight as I can seem to find the info anywhere. Is our forum no longer free to join? I'm asking because I sent a few people here and they are coming back to me with news that it's no longer free to join and is now a $10 joining fee.


    Thanks

    Manie
    Hi Manie,

    Yes that is correct. Although seeing the member numbers shoot past 500,000 was nice I've slowly snapped to what basically killed a certain other once huge forum. I'm not going to allow that to happen here.

    Out of over 1000 sign ups a day it broke down something like this:

    * 700 Bots (Retarded and on autopilot, most never even posted)
    * 100 Cookie Stuffers
    * 150 People I can't understand
    * 50 People that really wanted to be members

    Those numbers aren't exact of course but you get the idea.

    Allen
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by admin View Post


      Out of over 1000 sign ups a day it broke down something like this:

      * 700 Bots (Retarded and on autopilot, most never even posted)
      Awesome move! I've always thought to myself that bots don't have wallets. Oh, and I love that I'm not the only one who loves the word retarded!

      Originally Posted by admin View Post

      * 100 Cookie Stuffers
      * 150 People I can't understand
      This made me laugh as I read it and it could be due to the coffee not kicking in yet, but I thought it read 150 people I can't stand, lol! But what it actually says is good too.

      Originally Posted by admin View Post

      * 50 People that really wanted to be members

      Those numbers aren't exact of course but you get the idea.

      Allen
      I do get the idea and think it was a brilliant move on your part and am grateful for it.

      Terra
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Lee Jr
      Originally Posted by admin View Post

      Out of over 1000 sign ups a day it broke down something like this:

      * 700 Bots (Retarded and on autopilot, most never even posted)

      Allen
      Good Move
      This is reason enough to start charging.
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      Originally Posted by admin View Post

      Hi Manie,

      Yes that is correct. Although seeing the member numbers shoot past 500,000 was nice I've slowly snapped to what basically killed a certain other once huge forum. I'm not going to allow that to happen here.

      Out of over 1000 sign ups a day it broke down something like this:

      * 700 Bots (Retarded and on autopilot, most never even posted)
      * 100 Cookie Stuffers
      * 150 People I can't understand
      * 50 People that really wanted to be members

      Those numbers aren't exact of course but you get the idea.

      Allen
      Holy Guacamole!
      How about the advertising spots ? Will rate increase alot more ?
      Looking to advertise soon !
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      • Profile picture of the author admin
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        Originally Posted by toddr View Post

        Holy Guacamole!
        How about the advertising spots ? Will rate increase alot more ?
        Looking to advertise soon !
        No nothing really changed except to register costs $10.
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        • Profile picture of the author shelahc
          Originally Posted by admin View Post

          No nothing really changed except to register costs $10.
          Yesterday I was trying to post for WSO and found that I had to upgrade & pay the $10. So I did thinking that was all I needed to buy WSO.

          The rules were not very clear that I had to pay the $37 fee for War Room which included the fee to WF.

          So immediately after paying the $10 I had to turn around and pay an additional $37. There was no option to credit the $10 toward the $37.

          Basically I paid the $10 for WF two times. I've submitted a support ticket to get the initial $10 credited back, no response as of yet.

          I may be good if admin could make it clear before any fees are paid, what all the $10 gives you access to.
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
              Originally Posted by skibbz View Post

              I referred an Internet Marketing newbie to WF yesterday, he is now gonna have to pay... hope he does not back out because of this, WF is the best resource for learning IM, I cant think of anywhere else we can find so many talented internet marketers getting real results
              They can still read the forum, so I don't think that is an issue.


              Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

              $10 is a hell of a deal any day the of week, even if it were a recurring fee.
              It is a recurring fee. Once every 20 years. :p

              Glad to see this happen. Should help to keep out some of the spammers, which some days just get out of control.
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              • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                It is a recurring fee. Once every 20 years. :p
                Liar :p

                Warrior Forum Membership (One Time Payment) 10.00 US$
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                • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                  Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

                  Liar :p

                  Warrior Forum Membership (One Time Payment) 10.00 US$
                  Damnit. My bad.
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                  • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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                    Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                    Damnit. My bad.
                    Good thing...I was going to cancel my subscription - $10 every twenty years is out of my reach.
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                    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

                      Good thing...I was going to cancel my subscription - $10 every twenty years is out of my reach.
                      I had already added the transaction to my checkbook ledger.
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                • Profile picture of the author skibbz
                  Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

                  Liar :p

                  Warrior Forum Membership (One Time Payment) 10.00 US$
                  hahaha thats real funny Big Mike
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          • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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            Originally Posted by shelahc View Post

            Yesterday I was trying to post for WSO and found that I had to upgrade & pay the $10. So I did thinking that was all I needed to buy WSO.

            The rules were not very clear that I had to pay the $37 fee for War Room which included the fee to WF.

            So immediately after paying the $10 I had to turn around and pay an additional $37. There was no option to credit the $10 toward the $37.

            Basically I paid the $10 for WF two times. I've submitted a support ticket to get the initial $10 credited back, no response as of yet.

            I may be good if admin could make it clear before any fees are paid, what all the $10 gives you access to.
            I'm confused - I just opened another browser and went to the WF to check out the instructions.

            1st, you click the button to become a member of the Warrior Forum, which takes you to this Registration Page:

            WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums - Forum Rules

            On the Registration Page, you read the rules and then tick the checkbox agreeing to them. When you click the Register button, you're taken to this page:

            http://www.warriorforum.com/register.php?do=register

            On that page you fill out the form and then have a choice of either a Warrior Forum Membership or a War Room Subscription. Adjacent to each option is a link leading to an explanation of what each one is about.

            http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...id-status.html

            On that page explaining everything, admin has clearly listed that posting WSO's requires a War Room Subscription.

            What part of that page isn't clear to you?
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            • Profile picture of the author admin
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              Hey Mike,

              In her defense those links weren't there when she ordered. The techs put the system in place before I knew it and I had to scramble to get those links up.

              That's why I saw her order, I was watching them to see if everything was going smooth. As usual not everything did at first

              Allen


              Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

              I'm confused - I just opened another browser and went to the WF to check out the instructions.

              1st, you click the button to become a member of the Warrior Forum, which takes you to this Registration Page:

              WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums - Forum Rules

              On the Registration Page, you read the rules and then tick the checkbox agreeing to them. When you click the Register button, you're taken to this page:

              http://www.warriorforum.com/register.php?do=register

              On that page you fill out the form and then have a choice of either a Warrior Forum Membership or a War Room Subscription. Adjacent to each option is a link leading to an explanation of what each one is about.

              http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...id-status.html

              On that page explaining everything, admin has clearly listed that posting WSO's requires a War Room Subscription.

              What part of that page isn't clear to you?
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              • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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                Originally Posted by admin View Post

                Hey Mike,

                In her defense those links weren't there when she ordered. The techs put the system in place before I knew it and I had to scramble to get those links up.

                That's why I saw her order, I was watching them to see if everything was going smooth. As usual not everything did at first

                Allen
                @shelahc - my bad and I apologize for thinking you were doing something stupid. Now we know who the real idiot is
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                • Profile picture of the author admin
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                  Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

                  @shelahc - my bad and I apologize for thinking you were doing something stupid. Now we know who the real idiot is
                  Ha! Sometimes yes, sometimes no..
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                • Profile picture of the author shelahc
                  Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

                  @shelahc - my bad and I apologize for thinking you were doing something stupid. Now we know who the real idiot is
                  LMAO.... no worries Big Mike. And no I don't consider you an idiot. :p
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            • Profile picture of the author shelahc
              Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

              I'm confused - I just opened another browser and went to the WF to check out the instructions.

              1st, you click the button to become a member of the Warrior Forum, which takes you to this Registration Page:

              WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums - Forum Rules

              On the Registration Page, you read the rules and then tick the checkbox agreeing to them. When you click the Register button, you're taken to this page:

              http://www.warriorforum.com/register.php?do=register

              On that page you fill out the form and then have a choice of either a Warrior Forum Membership or a War Room Subscription. Adjacent to each option is a link leading to an explanation of what each one is about.

              http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...id-status.html

              On that page explaining everything, admin has clearly listed that posting WSO's requires a War Room Subscription.

              What part of that page isn't clear to you?
              I do not remember seeing that page prior to paying for the WF membership.

              The page I was on did not specify that when I paid the WF regular membership. Even had my son who has been a member of both forums for a long time try to determine.

              It's really no big deal, just thought it would be nice to have gotten the credit for what was already paid.
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              • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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                Originally Posted by shelahc View Post

                I do not remember seeing that page prior to paying for the WF membership.

                The page I was on did not specify that when I paid the WF regular membership. Even had my son who has been a member of both forums for a long time try to determine.

                It's really no big deal, just thought it would be nice to have gotten the credit for what was already paid.
                Go back and read the previous few posts - you were right, I was wrong...I'm an idiot
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          • Profile picture of the author admin
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            Originally Posted by shelahc View Post

            Yesterday I was trying to post for WSO and found that I had to upgrade & pay the $10. So I did thinking that was all I needed to buy WSO.

            The rules were not very clear that I had to pay the $37 fee for War Room which included the fee to WF.

            So immediately after paying the $10 I had to turn around and pay an additional $37. There was no option to credit the $10 toward the $37.

            Basically I paid the $10 for WF two times. I've submitted a support ticket to get the initial $10 credited back, no response as of yet.

            I may be good if admin could make it clear before any fees are paid, what all the $10 gives you access to.
            I sent you an email as soon as I saw that. Send me a PM on here and I'll credit back the $10 for you..
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            • Profile picture of the author shelahc
              Originally Posted by admin View Post

              I sent you an email as soon as I saw that. Send me a PM on here and I'll credit back the $10 for you..
              Just wanted you to know I never received an email from you. didn't want you to think I was ignoring you.
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      • Profile picture of the author skibbz
        Originally Posted by toddr View Post

        Holy Guacamole!
        How about the advertising spots ? Will rate increase alot more ?
        This is the same thing I was thinking, wonder if they plan to raise the cost of advertisement spots too
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          No nothing really changed except to register costs $10.
          So no change in ad fees at this point.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      I think its a great idea. $10 is not a lot of money and apart from weeding out bots and crap like that it weeds out all the nut cases too.
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    • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
      Originally Posted by admin View Post

      * 700 Bots (Retarded and on autopilot, most never even posted)
      LOL that's really hard to moderate and police... $10 one time pay is fine in my opinion. WF is the best IM forum so far.
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    • Profile picture of the author eugenedm
      Obviously, WF only want serious human beings to join. I can't blame them Warrior Forum is a great forum where you can learn a lot of things. It's like a big collaboration of thousands of minds who can give you a lot of ideas especially about IM.
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      • Profile picture of the author skibbz
        about how many new members join WF per day currently?
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        • Profile picture of the author bit twiddler
          Read the 2nd post by Allen ("admin").

          Originally Posted by skibbz View Post

          about how many new members join WF per day currently?
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Originally Posted by FredJones View Post

        Don't know the technical solution, but I agree with the principle: yes, these are not VSOs (visitor special offers) - these are WSOs (Warrior Special Offers) - so if we can maintain War Room because someone paid $37, why can't we use the same script to let people access the WSO section only if they have paid $10? This $10 can be thought of an investment towards getting digital products as WSOs which by itself will recover the money for serious WSO buyers that buy a couple of WSOs in their lifetime (assuming that most serious business people here will buy that much)...
        Shhhh! Some of us use the WF SE Love to our advantage.

        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post


        Comparing this to eBay's system is a bit off, as eBay doesn't allow things like asking questions publicly before buying, and the reviews are not part of the page that offers the product(s).
        Paul,
        Just a small tweak.

        Buyers can ask questions publicly on Ebay.



        Any of my auctions in the past, I've actually told people to please as any questions before bidding.
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  • Profile picture of the author WeavingThoughts
    This forum is well worth it even if it charges that much each month/week.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brains Gone Wild
      Originally Posted by WeavingThoughts View Post

      This forum is well worth it even if it charges that much each month/week.
      True but don't give them any ideas!
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  • Profile picture of the author Manie Amari
    Thanks for the prompt response guys! Noted.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Yep ... costs $10 bucks to join or alternatively, just go for the War Room membership at $37. Done to reduce the amount of spammer accounts being registered every day.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...formation.html
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I assume it is just for new members. I had not heard about it til now.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    I would like to say,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,And please sit down, cause everyone knows Im the fat old tired mean old man here. I would like to say thank you.
    I do not care if you charged .50 cents Allen, I think this is the greatest step that has been taken and will cut down alot of the riff raft and bring us people who actually want to learn and teach us.

    Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Well Allen, I have a question though. Some of us that sell WSO's, my jv's are not always based in warriors on there list. Will they have to become a member to buy a wso, that could hurt us some.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      It's been mentioned in another thread by Paul that that isn't the case.

      The WSO section will be publically accessible.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Great move, hopefully it will cut down all those stupid newbie threads from people too lazy to Google stuff!
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  • Profile picture of the author Merden
    How any new expert members will register? How we come to know new idea? If it is true then it's simply not good. I think War Room Member membership is only paid.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by Merden View Post

      How any new expert members will register?
      By paying $10? I seriously doubt that's hurting the bankroll of any "expert".

      Originally Posted by Merden View Post

      How we come to know new idea?
      Business information flowed before Allen was a twinkle in his parent's eyes. Business information has flowed on this forum when it was paid, when it was free, when it was a hybrid, and when it went through it's drag phase way back when. Business information will flow long after this forum is dead and gone.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Merden View Post

      How any new expert members will register? How we come to know new idea? If it is true then it's simply not good. I think War Room Member membership is only paid.
      How many good ideas do these experts have that can't come up with a 10 dollar bill?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      This is brilliant news. It's worth it just to keep the bots and cookie-stuffers out.

      The number of posts we'll have to "report" all the time, for the moderation queue, will also shrink a lot.
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        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        This is brilliant news. It's worth it just to keep the bots and cookie-stuffers out.

        The number of posts we'll have to "report" all the time, for the moderation queue, will also shrink a lot.
        Agreed...I whole-heartedly concur...
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      Originally Posted by Merden View Post

      How any new expert members will register? How we come to know new idea? If it is true then it's simply not good. I think War Room Member membership is only paid.
      If you are a SEO expert or a marketing expert I think you can afford 10 bucks, if you can't then I doubt you are an expert at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    Hmm....

    The terms on the registration page still says this :
    Forum Rules

    Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies...
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  • Profile picture of the author jvjoe
    I think it's a nice development, cos
    most people don't value what they get from
    the forum. It also allows serious new members and reduces
    those fake warrior members
    that can just create multiple accounts.
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  • Profile picture of the author nav123
    I think this is a great approach. This makes the forum a better environment.
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    • Profile picture of the author skibbz
      This is a great move, we will eliminate the spammers who keep bombarding the forum with junk
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  • Profile picture of the author dylan4f
    definitelly good move.. thumbs up on that
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  • Profile picture of the author preets
    Great Move Allen. So all the Free members (not war room member) have to pay $10 now to continue ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jerome Y
    Glad I saw this, I was wondering as well why I had people asking if they needed to pay for WF membership.

    I think it's a good move to cut out people who mass create accounts.
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    The forum used to require a payment to join. I had to pay, and it was more than ten bucks. No need to ask if it was worth the investment.

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    • Profile picture of the author skibbz
      I referred an Internet Marketing newbie to WF yesterday, he is now gonna have to pay... hope he does not back out because of this, WF is the best resource for learning IM, I cant think of anywhere else we can find so many talented internet marketers getting real results
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      • Profile picture of the author Jesse L
        Originally Posted by skibbz View Post

        I referred an Internet Marketing newbie to WF yesterday, he is now gonna have to pay... hope he does not back out because of this, WF is the best resource for learning IM, I cant think of anywhere else we can find so many talented internet marketers getting real results
        People can still read all of the posts, just not participate or search.

        I wonder, why no search option for the guests? It will help them find that what they are looking for is here and perhaps help persuade them to join.
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        • Profile picture of the author admin
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          Originally Posted by Jesse L View Post

          People can still read all of the posts, just not participate or search.

          I wonder, why no search option for the guests? It will help them find that what they are looking for is here and perhaps help persuade them to join.
          Hi Jesse,

          If you look at the number of guests and then imagine what 10,000 of them searching would do to server resources it will become clear

          The members would never get to search anything on here. Plus some of the 'guests' are actually bots..

          Allen
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
            The best way to do a pretty detailed search of the Warrior Forum is Google.

            1) No server resources used from the WF.
            2) More intricate searches.

            For example:

            Let's say you have figured out that Alexa Smith knows something about Clickbank. You want to see what she has to say about it.

            Google: site:warriorforum.com "alexa smith" clickbank

            Give it a try.

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            Originally Posted by Jesse L View Post

            People can still read all of the posts, just not participate or search.

            I wonder, why no search option for the guests? It will help them find that what they are looking for is here and perhaps help persuade them to join.
            Originally Posted by admin View Post

            Hi Jesse,

            If you look at the number of guests and then imagine what 10,000 of them searching would do to server resources it will become clear

            The members would never get to search anything on here. Plus some of the 'guests' are actually bots..

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        • Profile picture of the author Steve Wells
          Originally Posted by Jesse L View Post

          People can still read all of the posts, just not participate or search.

          I wonder, why no search option for the guests? It will help them find that what they are looking for is here and perhaps help persuade them to join.
          They can do a proper Google search related to the warrior forum, and get the info they need.

          Using Google to search the warrior forum is a great idea........ just got to know what to type into Google to get the results you want...
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    • Profile picture of the author Gladiator
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      [hands waving over here]
      Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

      The forum used to require a payment to join. I had to pay, and it was more than ten bucks. No need to ask if it was worth the investment.

      .

      Yes it was something I used look forward to login in to everyday! Still waiting for it to come back!
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    I really EMPATHIZE with all those new people who now
    have to pay, like I did, when I joined. :p

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    • Profile picture of the author nicraz
      I had been reading about Warrior Forum for a while now and finally decided to join, and yes I had to pay the $10, it says one time payment or 20 years. We'll see if we're still around in 20 years I think it definitely helps to keep only the people that do want to participate in the forum. Lots of good information here.
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      • Profile picture of the author Raydal
        Originally Posted by nicraz View Post

        I had been reading about Warrior Forum for a while now and finally decided to join, and yes I had to pay the $10, it says one time payment or 20 years. We'll see if we're still around in 20 years I think it definitely helps to keep only the people that do want to participate in the forum. Lots of good information here.
        Wow, that means that my renewal date is coming up in 10 years
        time. Better start putting away a Warrior membership fund
        considering the rate of inflation.

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        • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
          The only thing that would be better is for Allen to make it retroactive to all those who haven't purchased the War Room membership. Those complaining should be appreciative that he didn't, because I know that I'm not the only one who thinks he should do that.
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        • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
          There will be an impact on the WSO subforum with the current setup. If someone is not already a forum member it will now cost $10 to join so they can ask questions about offer(s) or to post a review. That will probably not happen, and may force sellers to have another forum / support desk elsewhere. Sellers are already supposed to have an off-forum contact, and this will make that more important.


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          • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
            Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

            There will be an impact on the WSO subforum with the current setup. If someone is not already a forum member it will now cost $10 to join so they can ask questions about offer(s) or to post a review. That will probably not happen, and may force sellers to have another forum / support desk elsewhere. Sellers are already supposed to have an off-forum contact, and this will make that more important.


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            Hi Brian,

            I thought we just needed to have another form of contact apart from PM's. So, that could be off-fourm, or within the thread itself. I always choose the later option.

            As far as non-members not being able to post? Not to be cold, but I don't care. My offers are always a way of saying "thanks" to the people who make this forum what it is, not what it ain't (if you follow).

            Either way, I think the $10 sign-up is an awesome move!



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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

            There will be an impact on the WSO subforum with the current setup. If someone is not already a forum member it will now cost $10 to join so they can ask questions about offer(s) or to post a review. That will probably not happen, and may force sellers to have another forum / support desk elsewhere. Sellers are already supposed to have an off-forum contact, and this will make that more important..
            I think it's important for anyone who is able to buy from the WSO forum to be able to contact admin of the forum or a moderator without paying $10 to report being ripped off or a scam. I'm also a bit concerned that customers can't post in the WSO thread about their experience with the product. It does no one any good if there are no objective reviews and no one can warn others that the offer is a scam or doesn't work or they've been ripped off.

            Other than that, it's a great move.
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        • Profile picture of the author nicraz
          Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

          Wow, that means that my renewal date is coming up in 10 years
          time. Better start putting away a Warrior membership fund
          considering the rate of inflation.

          -Ray Edwards
          Yep, 10 years will go by before you know it. And wow, you've been around a long time!
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  • Profile picture of the author Hitmanad
    Glad it's $10 to join.

    What other benefits would I get if I joined the War Room?
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  • Profile picture of the author queenbuzzy
    I think $10 is a good payment barrier: not too much to turn away the newbies who are really interested, but definitely enough to stop automated posts.

    I've always recommended WF as a great resource for those wanting to learn IM (even if I haven't been consistently on the forums) and $10 is a pretty decent price point to get the kind of education and support that is offered.
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  • Profile picture of the author Delsworld
    Great ideal. One day I was looking at new posts and every ever one was on satellite football. Charging a modest fee will help keep out the riffraff. Good move...
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  • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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    I think it's a great idea and makes sense for a lot of reasons. Reminds me of the old days when there used to be arguments about who was a paid or free member...anyone remember those?

    $10 is a hell of a deal any day the of week, even if it were a recurring fee.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Reminds me of the old days when there used to be arguments about who was a paid or free member...anyone remember those?
      [hands waving over here]
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      I think it's a great idea and makes sense for a lot of reasons. Reminds me of the old days when there used to be arguments about who was a paid or free member...anyone remember those?
      Yep. And you've got one smart sig button.

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      • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        Yep. And you've got one smart sig button.

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        Haha, it caught my attention too!

        BIG Mike, would you mind sending the PSD over?

        I personally think this is an excellent change which will reduce the amount of spam. I have seen bots spamming WSO threads with unrelated content - including one of my WSOs too. Moderators do a great job deleting it, but why's is worth the hassle when it doesn't have to be one?
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      • Profile picture of the author FredJones
        Originally Posted by admin View Post

        Hi Manie,

        Yes that is correct. Although seeing the member numbers shoot past 500,000 was nice I've slowly snapped to what basically killed a certain other once huge forum. I'm not going to allow that to happen here.

        Out of over 1000 sign ups a day it broke down something like this:

        * 700 Bots (Retarded and on autopilot, most never even posted)
        * 100 Cookie Stuffers
        * 150 People I can't understand
        * 50 People that really wanted to be members

        Those numbers aren't exact of course but you get the idea.

        Allen

        Allen, that's alarming. But look below, what I could achieve.

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        Want to ensure that my long-quiet profile does not get hit by the "second phase". My partner logs in here and works regularly including providing services and I also contribute to those services - just got to know from him about this thread...
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        You haven't seen the second phase yet..
        Yes, I could make her (my work partner) post here - after 2.5 years and infinite persistence - just by shouting out one word that injects fear - incredible ... See what sells?
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      • Profile picture of the author denysapu
        $10 invest for few targeted traffic (that sometimes are convert) isn't bad
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        • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
          Originally Posted by denysapu View Post

          $10 invest for few targeted traffic (that sometimes are convert) isn't bad
          And this is why it's now paid. Some of us are primarily givers and some of us are primarily takers. The takers (and I'm not saying you are one), are the ones that have ruined it for the rest of us to the point that something had to be done.

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    There are lots of good information here so I think it is worth the price of admission
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    It's a good move, but I think it would have made more sense to charge $5 to register instead. I know $10 isn't much, but as some people are starting out in IM with very little funds it can be.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      It's a good move, but I think it would have made more sense to charge $5 to register instead. I know $10 isn't much, but as some people are starting out in IM with very little funds it can be.
      If the difference between $5 and $10 is too much for you to handle, you shouldn't be in business.
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      • Profile picture of the author shelahc
        Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

        If the difference between $5 and $10 is too much for you to handle, you shouldn't be in business.
        Joseph, sometime $5 CAN make a difference. If you buy something that costs $10 and you only have $5, then you can not buy the item.

        And as with any new venture, the $10 is just ONE of the fees or investments having to be paid out.... they all could add up to be a bit substantial for some.

        Just sayin......
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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          Originally Posted by shelahc View Post

          Joseph, sometime $5 CAN make a difference. If you buy something
          Again, if you only have $5 to spend you shouldn't be trying to get into business. I know the fancy sales letters say otherwise and you want to believe that you'll be the Hollywood success story; but chances are it ain't gonna happen.

          Spend the $5 on a couple pounds of rice (food for weeks), get a job at McDonalds, and save $10. It ain't that complicated :rolleyes:.

          "Just sayin'"
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          • Profile picture of the author shelahc
            Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

            Again, if you only have $5 to spend you shouldn't be trying to get into business. I know the fancy sales letters say otherwise and you want to believe that you'll be the Hollywood success story; but chances are it ain't gonna happen.

            Spend the $5 on a couple pounds of rice (food for weeks), get a job at McDonalds, and save $10. It ain't that complicated :rolleyes:.

            "Just sayin'"
            Hear what you're sayin... but no need for sarcasm. Some people have a lot less then we have to reach their dreams of entrepreneurship. I guess I happen to be more sympathetic for those ones. Those who have enough courage to try with what little bit they may have and beat the odds.

            Just sayin (again)... LOL
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            • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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              Originally Posted by shelahc View Post

              Hear what you're sayin... but no need for sarcasm. Some people have a lot less then we have to reach their dreams of entrepreneurship. I guess I happen to be more sympathetic for those ones. Those who have enough courage to try with what little bit they may have and beat the odds.

              Just sayin (again)... LOL
              I'm a realist, and would prefer not to spend my time coddling or entertaining the whining that come from those with a failing mindset to begin with. Those with a true entrepreneurial spirit aren't thinking "gosh, I wish this was $5 cheaper." They're thinking "s***, I better find a way to make $5 if I want this asset."

              The difference between success and failure really is as simple as that, and you don't lower the bar (that at $10 is still extremely low) to let in a few more people that are going to whine and blame others when they inevitably fail.
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              • Profile picture of the author shelahc
                Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

                I'm a realist, and would prefer not to spend my time coddling or entertaining the whining that come from those with a failing mindset to begin with. Those with a true entrepreneurial spirit aren't thinking "gosh, I wish this was $5 cheaper." They're thinking "s***, I better find a way to make $5 if I want this asset."

                The difference between success and failure really is as simple as that, and you don't lower the bar (that at $10 is still extremely low) to let in a few more people that are going to whine and blame others when they inevitably fail.
                I didn't intend to turn this thread into a squabble. To an extent I agree with you, but I choose not to be so haughty.

                Can we not just agree to disagree on some points and move forward?
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            • Profile picture of the author Steve Wells
              Originally Posted by shelahc View Post

              Hear what you're sayin... but no need for sarcasm. Some people have a lot less then we have to reach their dreams of entrepreneurship. I guess I happen to be more sympathetic for those ones. Those who have enough courage to try with what little bit they may have and beat the odds.

              Just sayin (again)... LOL
              $10 is nothing...............

              If someone does not know how to get or make $10 they have NO BUSINESS trying to make money online.

              They will not succeed.

              They have to WORK to make money. And if they are willing to work OFFLINE and make $10 then maybe they could work online and make more.

              But not being willing to work and earn or knowing how to come up with a measly $10 is crazy.

              There really is no excuse honestly. I can maybe see someone in a poor third world country where $10 translates to like $50 or $70 dollars, being a problem possibly.

              But honestly, if someone can't come up with $10, then they have lots of broken work principles in the first place. And those need to be addressed before they try and do internet marketing.

              I mean no offence by what I have said, because I am sure there are some situations not covered by my statement, but overall what I have said is the honest truth.
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      It's a good move, but I think it would have made more sense to charge $5 to register instead. I know $10 isn't much, but as some people are starting out in IM with very little funds it can be.
      Admittedly $10 in some parts of the world is a lot of money but think about it. If the surfer has a computer and a connection .. they are probably capable of coming up with $10 more.

      Most of these things come to the point of the willingness to do a little extra or do without a little extra. I drive a 3 year old car not because I can't afford a new one but because a car payment might cut into my steak budget. If the desire for a new car turned into a need .. I am not beyond eating peanut butter. In reality I could just work an hour more and still eat steak.

      That could be the true secret to online success ... see something you want and then do what is necessary to obtain it.
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      • Profile picture of the author shelahc
        Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

        Admittedly $10 in some parts of the world is a lot of money but think about it. If the surfer has a computer and a connection .. they are probably capable of coming up with $10 more.

        Most of these things come to the point of the willingness to do a little extra or do without a little extra. I drive a 3 year old car not because I can't afford a new one but because a car payment might cut into my steak budget. If the desire for a new car turned into a need .. I am not beyond eating peanut butter. In reality I could just work an hour more and still eat steak.

        That could be the true secret to online success ... see something you want and then do what is necessary to obtain it.

        Ditto.... it's not so much the amount. Could be $10, $100 or $1,000, but I don't bash those that might have to struggle with coming up with what WE personally would consider to be easy money.

        I do like your analogy....
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      • Profile picture of the author ShaneGorry
        Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

        Admittedly $10 in some parts of the world is a lot of money but think about it. If the surfer has a computer and a connection .. they are probably capable of coming up with $10 more.

        Most of these things come to the point of the willingness to do a little extra or do without a little extra. I drive a 3 year old car not because I can't afford a new one but because a car payment might cut into my steak budget. If the desire for a new car turned into a need .. I am not beyond eating peanut butter. In reality I could just work an hour more and still eat steak.

        That could be the true secret to online success ... see something you want and then do what is necessary to obtain it.
        Simple but golden.
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  • Profile picture of the author immick
    Applaud this move. I think it will make it a stronger forum in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author bhmseoservices
    Based on those numbers that the Admin posted I can understand.
    To be frank it's well worth it to be charged to be on this forum!
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  • Profile picture of the author algreg
    I joined a long time ago and went on a WSO buying frenzy from June 2010 all the way til June 2012. I learned a lot and never had to pay. But I agree with everyone, 10 bucks is no big deal. Plus, I'm a REAL person and obviously not a bot so I would give information just as good as I get it.

    Thanks for all you do everybody. It's appreciated. I think I'm gonna check out the War Room. Never been in there before. If it's only $37 then what the hell? I've got some ideas I wanna bring to market and that's probably just the right place for me at this point in my business.
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    Awesome I think this is a great step Allen it will get rid of all the tire kickers, and time wasters.

    I am glad to see this.

    If people cannot spare $10 dollars they should be looking for work, and use some of that money to get started with their Internet businesses. That ten bucks will be the best money they ever spent!

    Good news!
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  • Profile picture of the author GBM
    I think the $10 sign up is a good idea... And I guess I'm lucky I signed up recently haha.

    But I think ANYBODY who signs up should be able to REPLY to threads in the WSO section.

    People won't want to pay to ask a question about a product that they may not buy... and it's much simpler to handle it all in one thread than to start using other forms of contact on the side. A lot of people will be too lazy to ask a question unless they can do it right then and there.
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  • Profile picture of the author lastdual
    I'm a recent join, and I was honestly glad to see the $10 join up fee. It told me that this was more likely to be a serious community.
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      Originally Posted by lastdual View Post

      I'm a recent join, and I was honestly glad to see the $10 join up fee. It told me that this was more likely to be a serious community.
      Cool, I see it says registered member under your name. Haven't noticed that until yours. I think Allen should charge $25 and provide a t-shirt lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author admin
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      Originally Posted by lastdual View Post

      I'm a recent join, and I was honestly glad to see the $10 join up fee. It told me that this was more likely to be a serious community.
      Thank you. That's exactly what I was hoping for. That and killing the cookie stuffers and spammers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
    A $10 entrance fee will cut back on the trolls, garbage, and noise. Awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    1. My understanding from way back is that WSOs are for Warriors. Warriors at various times have had to pay for access. If you didn't pay you were not a Warrior but if you did you were. Same goes here. Making WSO buyers pay the fee may cut down on a lot of the automatic refunds and other scamming that goes on by unknowns.

    2. Google doesn't currently require a fee to search through their site. Typing in "site:warriorforum.com how do I make money fast without spending any time or making any effort", for example, brings up 139,000 results. This means that nonmembers will need to learn how to search through Google which can perhaps resolve many of the repeated questions we get here everyday.

    3. Just remember that there are already lots of idgits who are grandfathered in and will continue making trouble in one form or another. I wish we could grandfather a bunch of them out but oh well.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author admin
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      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post


      3. Just remember that there are already lots of idgits who are grandfathered in and will continue making trouble in one form or another. I wish we could grandfather a bunch of them out but oh well.

      Mark

      You haven't seen the second phase yet..
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by admin View Post

        You haven't seen the second phase yet..
        Attrition through stupidity?
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        • Profile picture of the author 1byte
          AWESOME! I'll be glad to see less spammers and other idiots wreaking havoc on this forum
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by admin View Post

        You haven't seen the second phase yet..
        Ooh, go on.
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      • Profile picture of the author George Wright
        Originally Posted by admin View Post

        You haven't seen the second phase yet..
        An affiliate program with 100% commission going to the affiliate.

        One can dream can't one?

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      • Profile picture of the author Cali16
        Originally Posted by admin View Post

        You haven't seen the second phase yet..
        Oooohh, nothing like a teaser to build up the suspense!

        Please give us a heads up so we can get out the popcorn!

        On a more serious note, very grateful that you did this, Allen. I've always been amazed that you generously allowed people to join this goldmine for free. It will be nice to no longer have to deal with all the annoying spammers and cookie-stuffers.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
          Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

          That could be the true secret to online success ... see something you want and then do what is necessary to obtain it.
          Not just online success, any success. There are so many failures because most won't do what is necessary because it's too hard|takes too long|costs too much.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sudeshna
        Want to ensure that my long-quiet profile does not get hit by the "second phase". My partner logs in here and works regularly including providing services and I also contribute to those services - just got to know from him about this thread...

        Originally Posted by admin View Post

        You haven't seen the second phase yet..
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  • Profile picture of the author Refreshment
    Ahh I was just in time with joining before the fee then haha. But looking back at what I have learned at this forum I can say that the $10 fee is well worth it. Nice move to get serious people on this forum!
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  • Profile picture of the author datingworld
    I think it will make warriorforum very unique than other forums on the web.
    I would say it is a very positive step....
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  • Profile picture of the author mraudi
    Good move by the admin! cleans up the rubbish and make WF a better community =)
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      The other IM forums will get bombarded with the classic: "How can I raise X to do Y?" posts....

      where X is "$10" and Y is "to access the Warrior Forum"....
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    Should eliminate

    "My name Swingswang I come from Boofoo.I want sale over online. You help."
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  • Profile picture of the author pdrs
    Great Move!
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  • Profile picture of the author TimK06
    Well unless it just began yesterday it's still free to join however they are really limited what you can do in WF with the free membership so I would say it's definitely headed in that direction.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    still cheap for the great info and members resources in here
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  • Profile picture of the author TimCastleman
    Thank God.

    $10 is nothing for what this forum can provide.

    I just wish you'd make everyone (old & new) pay the fee.

    Get rid of the tire kickers and freebie seekers and make everyone have some skin in the game.

    In the grand scheme, $10 is less than lunch tomorrow, so pay it and move on.

    Tim
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
      I see both good and bad in this.

      Its definitely gonna take away from the activity - or at least from first looks.

      But it will cut back on all those bots, and all that spam, AND all the ridiculous threads we see day in & day out. You all know which ones I'm talking about.. Hell, even Allan knows. LOL

      Which is a good thing.

      BUT - 10 bux is a very small price to pay, for say, a cookie stuffer who knows when properly done, they could earn hundreds/thousands of dollars just stuffing a few top threads.

      These blackhat f*ckers are out there, and they arent stupid.

      If they can make a profit, they will find a way to do it.. Sad but true.

      So even while 10 dollars is "something" - its not much of a deterrent.

      However, you dont wanna raise it too high, because then average users who mean no harm & really want to be here might not be able to.

      Its a tough choice.

      However if phase 2 is the "this post contains X number of images" in a bright yellow box, then as long as it also detects those stuffers, I applaud the move.
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      • Profile picture of the author admin
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        Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post

        I see both good and bad in this.

        Its definitely gonna take away from the activity - or at least from first looks.

        But it will cut back on all those bots, and all that spam, AND all the ridiculous threads we see day in & day out. You all know which ones I'm talking about.. Hell, even Allan knows. LOL

        Which is a good thing.

        BUT - 10 bux is a very small price to pay, for say, a cookie stuffer who knows when properly done, they could earn hundreds/thousands of dollars just stuffing a few top threads.

        These blackhat f*ckers are out there, and they arent stupid.

        If they can make a profit, they will find a way to do it.. Sad but true.

        So even while 10 dollars is "something" - its not much of a deterrent.

        However, you dont wanna raise it too high, because then average users who mean no harm & really want to be here might not be able to.

        Its a tough choice.

        However if phase 2 is the "this post contains X number of images" in a bright yellow box, then as long as it also detects those stuffers, I applaud the move.

        Have you seen that yellow box?

        Please report it if you do.

        Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post



        However, you dont wanna raise it too high, because then average users who mean no harm & really want to be here might not be able to.
        Most people in this forum don't seem to realise that many of us paid more than that for access already - the forum used to be paid only.

        People will always complain when the price of something goes up - but in this case, don't feel too hard done by because a lot of us paid for access already - and you don't see us complaining that it was free for so many others.

        There was always going to be a point where Allen had to protect himself from the spam and bots that inevitably follow when a community gets good traction and a lot of members.
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    I personally like the change, it makes this place more of an investment for newbies
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  • Profile picture of the author DianaHeuser
    Great move Allen.


    But now I am all 'eyes' for the next phase
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    I certainly have - damn man I'll see if I can find it.

    I dunno if it was just from a legit image post or not tho.. lol
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      Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post

      I certainly have - damn man I'll see if I can find it.

      I dunno if it was just from a legit image post or not tho.. lol
      In some cases the post may actually be ok but they all need to be reported. We will check every one of them out.

      Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post

      I certainly have - damn man I'll see if I can find it.

      I dunno if it was just from a legit image post or not tho.. lol
      I saw one yesterday in a WSO and thought it strange, I also noticed it was a relatively new WSO with little to no replies. I think it was a writing one as I look at those just out of curiosity.

      After reading your post, I went back to see if I could find it but couldn't. I did find 2 other ones with them though.

      And yes, I duly reported them. Maybe Allen and/or the mods can get those sorted out.

      Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    I was gonna edit, but you replied before I could -

    I went and checked my sales threads that contain images to see if my posts had that tag - and they did NOT.

    So there was probably something fishy with the posts I seen that yellow box for.

    I'll see if I can find them again, they might be somewhere in my history.

    If anyone else finds them or sees a big yellow box saying "this post contains X amount of images" please report it, because I may not find it.. this is a very big forum.. lol

    edit:

    I'm not seeing it anywhere dude. Someone may have removed it earlier, or it could still be out there.. I have no idea. sorry

    HAPPY HALLOWEEN THO!!! I'm off for the night, enjoy your holiday everyone!
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      Thumbs up Allen, I think charging to become a member is a good deal. It's not too high to keep out a poorer newbie that does want to join, and surely bots don't have credit cards or Paypal.

      Now about that second phase? You've got us all curious.

      Seriously, that little bit of money should help clean up a lot.
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    • Profile picture of the author Birdi
      Personally speaking , it was about time ...

      Get rid of those spammers, really annoying this forum has alot of value and you can learn alot, If you are serious you'll pay that cost and participate good value help others and learn aswell.

      When it's free it attracts the wrong crowd. You make that payment you commit ....

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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        BUT - 10 bux is a very small price to pay, for say, a cookie stuffer who knows when properly done, they could earn hundreds/thousands of dollars just stuffing a few top threads.
        They don't last here. They get spotted and reported quickly. It was profitable enough, sure, when they could just keep a system pumping and dropping cookies for free. Now... Not so much.
        Its definitely gonna take away from the activity - or at least from first looks.
        In raw volume? Sure, maybe for a few days. But as people get used to the lower spam counts and higher readability of posts, they're more likely to get involved. And it's traditionally held true that people who pay for something are more likely to use it.

        Not to mention the increase in usability from the decreased load on the servers. And the somewhat reduced negativity from the probable reduction in trolls.


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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Birdi,
        When it's free it attracts the wrong crowd. You make that payment you commit ....
        Yep. The overwhelming majority of the spam and BS posts in the discussion sections were from free accounts. (Of course, a lot of good info is, too, but we're not making those people go away, so that's not an issue.) If you look at the people who coach new folks on how to use the forum properly, most of them have paid for access. The rest are just smart people who understand that communities don't provide value if there isn't some basic structure in place to let folks communicate effectively.

        It's already had a significant impact. My estimate is that reported posts are down from a rate of around 20 or 30 per hour to 4 per hour. And, with the exception of leftover free accounts, those are mostly single post issues (affiliate links, post in wrong section, stuff like that), and not one account representing 25 or 30 spams.

        So far, it's a hit both in terms of quality and quantity.


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  • I applaud this move to both cut down on spammers PLUS to cut down on one-post lazy newbies asking "How can I make money online?" and who never even come back to their own threads. Those threads have been polluting the WF badly as of lately.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ali Thunder
    I think this is nice step taken by the admin We can get more quality people now!

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    This is a good move to reduce spammers.
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  • Profile picture of the author thenextGeek
    What about those who joined the forum when it was still free? Will something happen to us then?
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    This move may just restore my sanity and reverse my decision to leave the WF. I'm becoming increasingly stroppy about the number of lazy (there's a reason I used that word) people who ask stupid questions because they simply expect everyone else to do their work for them. As an example, a few days ago someone asked if the strange appearance of their site was a theme problem. I snapped at them and said why not try changing the theme and THEN coming to ask if it didn't cure the problem. This warrior was, apparently, thrilled by my good advice!!!!

    I pointed out that his strapline said it all. "lazy warrior".

    Let's hope the lazy, incompetent, I want I wanters don't have $10.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I do have one question on behalf of all WSO sellers

    Does this now mean customers and/or potential customers will have to pay $10 before they can post in our WSO threads?!
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    • Profile picture of the author WikiWarrior
      This is great news. I hoped this would happen for a while now and $10 is a nominal amount for anyone to pay.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      I do have one question on behalf of all WSO sellers

      Does this now mean customers and/or potential customers will have to pay $10 before they can post in our WSO threads?!
      Yes.

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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

        Yes.

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        I can understand the argument that WSO offers are suppose to be for Warrior members only. But let's face it, things have changed with the WSO forum and I would bet a lot of new members to this forum actually come as the result of a WSO promotion.

        I would still like to see members able to post in the WSO section for free. Otherwise it prevents some of the transparency that the posts have previously given to offers in the WSO forum.

        The eBay feedback system wouldn't work anywhere near as well if people who had purchased a product needed to pay a fee to eBay just to leave their feedback. I feel the same about this situation.

        I'm all for this rule in all the other forum sections though.

        As always though, I understand and appreciate this is someone else's house and we must go by their rules. Just voicing my opinion though.
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          I can understand the argument that WSO offers are suppose to be for Warrior members only. But let's face it, things have changed with the WSO forum and I would bet a lot of new members to this forum actually come as the result of a WSO promotion.

          I would still like to see members able to post in the WSO section for free. Otherwise it prevents some of the transparency that the posts have previously given to offers in the WSO forum.

          The eBay feedback system wouldn't work anywhere near as well if people who had purchased a product needed to pay a fee to eBay just to leave their feedback. I feel the same about this situation.

          I'm all for this rule in all the other forum sections though.

          As always though, I understand and appreciate this is someone else's house and we must go by their rules. Just voicing my opinion though.
          In addition to not being able to report scams and ripoffs, the lack of transparency is a problem to me.

          I was looking at a WSO this past week that cost $77 to buy and I almost hit the buy button. I wanted this software. As I read the pages of comments, I noticed that no one was getting their licenses for the software and no one's questions were being answered. I didn't buy it because of the problems in the thread, and these kinds of situations have swayed me in plenty of WSO threads. The paid members who just come in and shill for the seller can still post, but real customers with real problems won't be able to unless they pay to do it.

          I also like the fact that a customer can leave a glowing review without having to pay $10.
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          • Profile picture of the author WillR
            Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

            I also like the fact that a customer can leave a glowing review without having to pay $10.
            Not to mention the fact a lot of WSO buyers are those people very short on money where even a small $10 fee IS a big deal to them.
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            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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              Originally Posted by WillR View Post

              Not to mention the fact a lot of WSO buyers are those people very short on money where even a small $10 fee IS a big deal to them.
              This is true. It's easy for me to say that if you can't come up with $10, you shouldn't be in business anyway or buying WSOs, but there are plenty of people in other countries where $10 is a big deal and they have the same aspirations and dreams as those of us who think of $10 as chump change.

              I still don't disagree with charging for membership, but I think the WSO forum needs the transparency of customers being able to post. Not everything posted in the WSO forum is a support issue that should be taken to offsite support... and not all sellers respond to their support queries, leaving the buyers no recourse at all if they aren't a paid member.
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  • Profile picture of the author dlane1987
    I'm a bit lost. i apologise if this has already been covered but what is the $10 for? I haven't had to pay $10.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    site:warriorforum.com Warrior forum: "Join Date: Oct 2012" - Google Search

    Google has indexed over 530 posts by members who joined in Oct. 2012. It will be interesting to see how many post who join in November. ($10 payers)

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    .... and I do realize that most of the cookie stuffers and spammers use the WSO/sales threads to do their dirty work.
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  • Profile picture of the author ralchevd
    If you don't think too much and too deeply - it's good. But however, I think that many people will take themselves as "special" only because they paid 10 bucks, so they will probably post ridiculous stuff and expect instant money-making answers. Just a theory. Still I approve the join fee.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Originally Posted by ralchevd View Post

      If you don't think too much and too deeply - it's good. But however, I think that many people will take themselves as "special" only because they paid 10 bucks, so they will probably post ridiculous stuff and expect instant money-making answers. Just a theory. Still I approve the join fee.
      They will be set straight very quickly by those who paid $47.

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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    It's WSO = WARRIOR Special Offer

    Not VSO = Visitor Special Offer

    I'm happy that the change applies to the WSO section. In fact, it's the thing that I'm the happiest about. I think/hope it will go a long way toward making the WSO section better.

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      It's WSO = WARRIOR Special Offer

      Not VSO = Visitor Special Offer

      I'm happy that the change applies to the WSO section. In fact, it's the thing that I'm the happiest about. I think/hope it will go a long way toward making the WSO section better.

      All the best,
      Michael
      But that does not matter as long as "anyone" can buy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        But that does not matter as long as "anyone" can buy.
        I see what you mean. Maybe that will be addressed in Phase 3?

        All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

    I also like the fact that a customer can leave a glowing review without having to pay $10.
    On the other hand, it makes it more expensive for those who were creating throwaway accounts to give themselves glowing reviews...

    I would think that anyone serious about their online busines who is also actively buying WSO's wouldn't have a problem paying $10 to comment on it, even if they don't participate elsewhere. in the forum.

    I don't know if Allen has any stats on it, but really, how many buyers are we actually talking about? A handful or thousands?
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      On the other hand, it makes it more expensive for those who were creating throwaway accounts to give themselves glowing reviews...

      I would think that anyone serious about their online busines who is also actively buying WSO's wouldn't have a problem paying $10 to comment on it, even if they don't participate elsewhere. in the forum.

      I don't know if Allen has any stats on it, but really, how many buyers are we actually talking about? A handful or thousands?
      I honestly don't know the answer, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were a lot since a lot of people come to the WSOs through email promotions.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        I think the only members who will complain about having to join are those sending out all the W+ emails with WSO affiliate links.

        If visitors have the money to shop for WSOs, they can afford to join for $10 if they have a question. It might make for better questions instead of the repetitive crap we often see.

        Or sellers can be REQUIRED to provide an email/help contact for questions of non-members in the copy. It could be required for sellers to list a contact address at the bottom of every WSO - or at the top left.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
          I'm with you on this one, Kay...

          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          Or sellers can be REQUIRED to provide an email/help contact for questions of non-members in the copy. It could be required for sellers to list a contact address at the bottom of every WSO - or at the top left.
          Sellers should be required to provide a working support/contact address as a part of the offer. (maybe a prerequisite to approval?)
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          Or sellers can be REQUIRED to provide an email/help contact for questions of non-members in the copy. It could be required for sellers to list a contact address at the bottom of every WSO - or at the top left.
          That's already a requirement. That doesn't mean that dishonest sellers answer support questions and without the ability to post honest reviews of the product in the WSO thread, new buyers are flying blind.

          The only solution I see is "Phase 2" being that ONLY members can participate in the WSO forum at all. Only members can see it and buy.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            Yes, sellers are supposed to give a contact - but I haven't seen one given in a while. But - I don't visit the WSO section much, so...

            How would you know if the good comments are real or from a seller posting from a library or friend's house anonymously ....how would you know if a negative review is from someone trying to damage the seller anonymously?

            With a contact placed so mods can easily check for it before approval - non-members can send questions to the seller who can answer in a FAQs post on the WSO thread.

            Maybe I'm making it too complicated. I think most who find the WSO section will WANT to join here so not sure there's any problem to begin with.
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            • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              Yes, sellers are supposed to give a contact - but I haven't seen one given in a while. But - I don't visit the WSO section much, so...

              How would you know if the good comments are real or from a seller posting from a library or friend's house anonymously ....how would you know if a negative review is from someone trying to damage the seller anonymously?
              Here's a recent WSO that convinced me not to buy:
              Seller has what appears to be a great product. First page great reviews. Second and third page, buyers begging for their license keys over and over for days. Nothing but the sound of crickets from the seller in that WSO.

              Finally, some started filing Paypal disputes. Seller comes back and acts so surprised to see everyone not getting license keys. Vows to resolve it.

              Buyers continue to post that their not getting their license keys.

              This was a product that I wanted and decided not to buy.

              Another case:
              This one I bought. Software didn't work from day 1. People started posting that software didn't work and buyers were bullied and badgered by the seller to use their support forum. The problems weren't being addressed via the support forum and buyers continue to post that software is not working. Buyers are told that it's being worked on and to be patient. Most, including myself were patient. So patient that the opportunity to file a Paypal dispute has passed.

              Bottom line: This seller got to keep all the money, the product never worked and still does not work and seller continued to post new WSOs even while the sh%t storm from this product was ongoing.

              For me, I don't read what appears to be canned reviews, but it is very obvious when a product is not what it is advertised to be or not working or a blatant ripoff. The landslide in the WSO is unmistakable.
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              • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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                Originally Posted by WillR View Post

                If the forum is happy to allow non-members to buy WSO products
                I'm probably wrong here, but I've always been under the impression that "Technically", WSO's are only intended for members of the forum. Otherwise, they're actually offers available to the general public, which would make them non-special offers.

                Maybe, instead of letting people post for free in that area, the WSO forum should be closed off to anyone who isn't logged in as a member? That would solve a number of issues and create more of an incentive to pay for the basic, $10 membership.
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                • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
                  Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post


                  Maybe, instead of letting people post for free in that area, the WSO forum should be closed off to anyone who isn't logged in as a member? That would solve a number of issues and create more of an incentive to pay for the basic, $10 membership.
                  In fairness, that's quite a harsh suggestion.

                  There's no doubt a considerable amount of non-members purchase WSO products and if your suggestion were put into effect, you'd basically just slash a sizable chunk of sales from every single person who's hosting an ad. Guest exposure must be phenomenal.

                  The same applies to Classifieds and Warriors for Hire.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joshster
    Great info Allen, I was wondering about that when looking for my Book club membership!
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    That will definitely reduce the number of spams in this forum. Actually it will not go fully paid. Some of the sections will be opened for all I think. Right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    If you make the WSO section special, you also have to make the classified section special and the warriors services section special because they have customers too.

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  • Profile picture of the author SergioFelix
    If I was just getting started online I wouldn't be too happy to pay a fee just to join a forum but given the quality of the information here I can easily say that even the war room membership is very low.

    And of course I agree on the $10 fee, I think anyone that joins will treasure the WF a lot more.
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  • Profile picture of the author kimonerz
    It's a great thing that I joined previous to this. Either way this is a good move, it gets rid of all the warriors that aren't serious about IM. The money is also very well worth it, just from the quantity and quality of the information provided in the forum.

    This gets me thinking that Warrior forums will probably double or triple the amount of profit now. This can mean a good thing - drastic improvements to the site, more free things, etc. Almost like a Public School vs a Private School. This is also a good marketing strategy to promote the growth of the war room.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      You have to be a War Room member to run a WSO. I don't see a problem with requiring people to join the forum if they want to access WSOs. They were designed as special offers for members here - though the concept has blurred since the W+ affiliate program began.

      If anyone can buy WSOs without being a member here - there's no longer anything special about them. Would probably take two days before "visitors" began complaining in WSO threads..."why can't I see the rest of the Warrior Forum - not fair".

      Will be interesting to see what plans Allen has for this issue - I'm sure he has something in mind.

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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        You have to be a War Room member to run a WSO. I don't see a problem with requiring people to join the forum if they want to access WSOs. They were designed as special offers for members here - though the concept has blurred since the W+ affiliate program began.

        If anyone can buy WSOs without being a member here - there's no longer anything special about them. Would probably take two days before "visitors" began complaining in WSO threads..."why can't I see the rest of the Warrior Forum - not fair".

        Will be interesting to see what plans Allen has for this issue - I'm sure he has something in mind.

        kay
        I don't see a problem with it either. I do see a problem with buyers having to pay before leaving a review or comment or plea for help in the WSO thread if they don't have to pay to access the product.

        Having it accessible to only paid WF members would solve that problem and help solve the spammer cookie stuffing problem, since most of the cookie stuffers stuff in the WSO forum... so saying that non-paid-members can post in the WSO forum lets the cookie stuffers back in.
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

          Maybe you can allow only those who made a purchase to post in the WSO thread only.
          The forum has no idea who has purchased and who hasn't. Some of the WSOs sell thousands of copies. There's no way to enforce that.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rbtmarshall
          Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

          They would be able to see the rest of the forum, they just would be limited to viewing only.

          That can be a good thing because after viewing the forum 3,4,5,6 times, they may realize the value that they would be getting from joining.

          On another note, something should be done about being able to post in the WSO section.

          Maybe you can allow only those who made a purchase to post in the WSO thread only.

          There are so many hype avatars in the WSO section. That are only used to promote the information being sold.

          I also agree that something needs to be done about this. People who have been here for months or even years and have little to no posts outside the WSO section are very suspicious to me. It is a simple task to make that avatar appear as if it's not coming from the same IP address as the seller.
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  • Profile picture of the author kencalhn
    I strongly believe that it's a great idea for everyone to have to verify their identity by paying the $10 or whatever, or war room membership, to avoid phony reviews and other problems. Getting .cc verification of identity helps prevent multiple accounts, spams, fake reviews and other problems.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    I missed the original thread but I just went for look...

    The Following 1,675 Users Say Thank You to admin For This Useful Post

    I added a "Thanks" so it is now 1,676!

    Lurkers and newbies,

    1. Browse the forum and take notes.
    2. Take action and earn $10.
    3. Become a paid member.
    4. Keep learning, taking action and earn $37.
    5. Join War Room.

    These may be the most important things you can do to start your online career.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
    While I'm here.....

    I too would like to see the WSO section locked to members only. Then they would be true WSO's.

    Also the WSO affiliate spammers would go away. The War Room script could probably be adapted.

    Just my $.02
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello everyone,

    Allen- I too think it was a great idea, and I don't think $10 or $37 is a whole lot to ask for the quality of information that is provided here, including several good free resources, not to mention the expertise and experience of many Warriors in many different fields of online marketing (and even in fields outside of online marketing - writing, graphic design, etc.). Plus, the fact that the Warrior Forum was around even before the dot-com boom and bust (1997- 15 years already, and counting) - that, too, should show the value of the information here is essentially timeless and priceless!

    There are some products out there that cost more than that and don't give you 1/100th of what you'll find here. Heck, some products don't even give you 1/1000th and charge more.

    Again, great decision Allen - I hope it's helping to keep out the spammers and helps to bring more people here who you "understand." :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    I know WSO vendors and especially WSO affiliates are on pins and needles about the decision but it is just going to mean the vendor will need to become a little better copywriter and actually run a real help desk instead of depending on the post under the WSO to do the selling for them.

    The affiliates will migrate to the vendors who take time to communicate. As far as transparency, there will still be plenty of members giving their reviews. I know this is coming from someone who has purchased a whopping 3 WSO and has no intention of running one in the near future but that is how I see it.

    If you think about it .. Allen just validated our customers for us. No more "My country does not allow Pay pal and I do not have a credit card"
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    Just an exciting thought, does this mean no more "What is the Best..." and "What is your favorite..." type questions?
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      Originally Posted by Jesse L View Post

      Just an exciting thought, does this mean no more "What is the Best..." and "What is your favorite..." type questions?
      Out of curiosity, what's your favorite "What is the Best" thread?



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      • Charging a fee to register is obviously a great idea. Applause, a choir of angels singing hosannas and hallelujah.

        However, I don't think it will cut down on mod work as much as some think. Mark my words, we're going to see squawking from rule-breakers. "I paid to join this forum -- you can't tell me what to do!"

        It's as inevitable as sunrise.

        And how, exactly, do you eject someone who thinks he's paid for the privilege of being a jackwagon?

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        • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
          Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

          C

          And how, exactly, do you eject someone who thinks he's paid for the privilege of being a jackwagon?

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          • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
            Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

            Charging a fee to register is obviously a great idea. Applause, a choir of angels singing hosannas and hallelujah.

            However, I don't think it will cut down on mod work as much as some think. Mark my words, we're going to see squawking from rule-breakers. "I paid to join this forum -- you can't tell me what to do!"

            It's as inevitable as sunrise.

            And how, exactly, do you eject someone who thinks he's paid for the privilege of being a jackwagon?

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            With the click of one button in my version of v-bulletin.
            Yep...they did "pay". But they also agreed to abide by the rules. If they break the agreement at any point admins are allowed to disable their account.
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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              Sid,
              Sellers should be required to provide a working support/contact address as a part of the offer. (maybe a prerequisite to approval?)
              They are. Anyone caught without a working means to contact them off this forum gets their offer closed until that situation is changed.

              That info is not required to be in the thread itself. Some folks only use email, and don't want their address posted.

              General comments...

              A few people are confusing access with transparency.

              Buying from ads posted here is open to everyone. Posting here is not, at least not any more. That does not mean we're suddenly going to have reviews slanted one way or the other by the system. Just that there will likely be fewer of them, and they'll tend to be from more serious people.

              Comparing this to eBay's system is a bit off, as eBay doesn't allow things like asking questions publicly before buying, and the reviews are not part of the page that offers the product(s). As far as I know, it is also not possible on eBay for someone to comment on a product they have not purchased.

              I find it interesting to watch how ANY change is viewed as "bad." For example, a huge number of sellers, buyers, and just plain browsers complained vigorously and often about the alleged fake reviews and other abuses made possible by free members being able to post in the WSO section. Now there are complaints that they won't be able to do that...

              Yes, that's what it amounts to.

              I cannot think of any way at the moment to allow random non-members to ask questions, and then allow only paying non-members to post reviews. I'm sure it's possible, but it would still leave that whole section open for the previously mentioned abuses.


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              • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
                Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                Birdi,Yep. The overwhelming majority of the spam and BS posts in the discussion sections were from free accounts. (Of course, a lot of good info is, too, but we're not making those people go away, so that's not an issue.) If you look at the people who coach new folks on how to use the forum properly, most of them have paid for access. The rest are just smart people who understand that communities don't provide value if there isn't some basic structure in place to let folks communicate effectively.

                It's already had a significant impact. My estimate is that reported posts are down from a rate of around 20 or 30 per hour to 4 per hour. And, with the exception of leftover free accounts, those are mostly single post issues (affiliate links, post in wrong section, stuff like that), and not one account representing 25 or 30 spams.

                So far, it's a hit both in terms of quality and quantity.


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                Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

                Charging a fee to register is obviously a great idea. Applause, a choir of angels singing hosannas and hallelujah.

                However, I don't think it will cut down on mod work as much as some think. Mark my words, we're going to see squawking from rule-breakers. "I paid to join this forum -- you can't tell me what to do!"

                It's as inevitable as sunrise.

                And how, exactly, do you eject someone who thinks he's paid for the privilege of being a jackwagon?

                fLufF
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                It appears that it already is cutting it down, though the nature of Mod duties may change a bit.

                My guess is that the "I paid [$10] to join this forum..." complaints won't be that high; at least not any higher than the people who currently complain, "I paid [$37] to join the War Room..."

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                • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                  Michael,
                  My guess is that the "I paid [$10] to join this forum..." complaints won't be that high; at least not any higher than the people who currently complain, "I paid [$37] to join the War Room..."
                  We get some of that, but very little. And when we do, the reply is along the lines of, "You paid for access and an opportunity. Not a guarantee that you could do whatever you wanted, even if it's against the rules. Rules which, by the way, were posted and visible to You+World+Dog prior to your paying."

                  Ends it.

                  They might try to argue the rules after that, but that's never going to go away.


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                      Thomas,
                      Can I be put on a yearly payment plan? Thanks.
                      Sure. We cheerfully set up a special layaway plan, just for you.

                      Pay $1/year, access to be granted upon completion of payment.

                      See ya in 2022. Or 2049, if you chose the War Room membership.


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              • Profile picture of the author Steve Wells
                Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post


                I cannot think of any way at the moment to allow random non-members to ask questions, and then allow only paying non-members to post reviews. I'm sure it's possible, but it would still leave that whole section open for the previously mentioned abuses.


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                Simple: If the Vendor of a WSO wants anyone who is NOT a Warrior Forum member to be able to ask questions, have them put up a support desk.

                Then make sure that this support desk is cleary visable and that they use wording that will inform and encourage any non-member of the warrior forum to submit their question to their support desk.
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        • Profile picture of the author George Wright
          Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

          Charging a fee to register is obviously a great idea. Applause, a choir of angels singing hosannas and hallelujah.

          However, I don't think it will cut down on mod work as much as some think. Mark my words, we're going to see squawking from rule-breakers. "I paid to join this forum -- you can't tell me what to do!"

          It's as inevitable as sunrise.

          And how, exactly, do you eject someone who thinks he's paid for the privilege of being a jackwagon?

          fLufF
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          You're right of course, however, after a ban or 2 at least some will get tired of paying $10 to join. I've seen war room members get banned, so the powers that be have no trouble banning paying members.

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          • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
            Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

            You're right of course, however, after a ban or 2 at least some will get tired of paying $10 to join. I've seen war room members get banned, so the powers that be have no trouble banning paying members.

            George Wright
            Yeah, the last time I checked I paid $37 for the privilege of obtaining the information in the war room, wso privileges, a cool little tag in my avatar, blog privileges, but nowhere can I find a get out of jail free card or any other type of immunity.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    By the way... For folks who are worried that people who aren't members can't report problems with sellers... Bzzzzt!

    See that Help Desk link at the top center of this and every other public page on the site? Don't have to be a member to use that...


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  • Profile picture of the author Dan J
    This is a move that has been long overdue! Better late than never aye? Good job admin!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Another positive to this is there will most likely be fewer 'serial refunders' since the majority do not want to pay for anything.. even the cost of membership. Every little bit of 'positive' is always a good thing in any business.

    Not sure, but if a WSO is supposed to be for Warriors Only and the technical way to become a Warrior is to 'pay' then I do not think non-warriors should be allowed to view or buy a WSO.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Trash Talk & Complaints? Another positive about 'paid membership' is there are the 'official forum rules' that are required to read before payment is tendered. So if a person pays and becomes a member only later to break the rules such as talk trash about people & complain about the forum mods (all usually done by trolls).. well they did agree to the rules.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    For those suggesting it's wrong/bad/harsh and will hurt WSO sellers because members may have to pay to join/comment/buy (depending on final decision), I have two thoughts:

    1. It used to all be paid. While the forum was not locked, per se, none of the members shared the link with nonmembers so in effect you had to be a paying member to even know about the forum. Was it unfair then? At some point Allen approved opening it up to the world and so the links started being shared.

    2. While hurting legit sellers who only sell in the WSO forum is a possibility, it's also a possibility that some of the scamming WSO sellers will go away if there aren't as many victims ripe for picking.

    As far as the legit WSO sellers, the idea has always been and has been pushed by mods and others, that you have a product you sell elsewhere and then you cut the price as a special offer for Warriors offered on that forum -and that it is not a be all and end all place to sell your stuff.

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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      For those suggesting it's wrong/bad/harsh and will hurt WSO sellers because members may have to pay to join/comment/buy (depending on final decision), I have two thoughts:

      1. It used to all be paid. While the forum was not locked, per se, none of the members shared the link with nonmembers so in effect you had to be a paying member to even know about the forum. Was it unfair then? At some point Allen approved opening it up to the world and so the links started being shared.
      It wasn't unfair because that was the accepted status quo. You can't be unhappy about a condition if the alternative is yet to come into existence to compare it to.

      We are talking about of a revert which would represent a possible devalue of a system we've adhered to.

      Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

      But it's not. It's to give other Warrior's the opportunity to get your product or service at a 'better deal' than the general public. I assume the original idea was a way for product creators to give back to the community by giving their friends a discount.
      I think for any point of this nature to hold any weight, a definition needs to be established as to what exactly a "Warrior" is.

      Aren't guests to be given benefits too for being regular visitors? They still represent valuable traffic...
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      • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
        Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

        I think for any point of this nature to hold any weight, a definition needs to be established as what exactly a "Warrior" is.

        Aren't guests to be given benefits too for being regular visitors? They still represent valuable traffic...
        Needs a definition? I thought it's quite obvious that a Warrior, in the context of this forum, is a registered member.

        Guests naturally get benefits but they aren't part of the community and as I put forward - weren't the intentional target of the special offers.

        It doesn't matter what I think though. People seem to treat the WSO forum as an online store when I don't think that was the intention at all.
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
          Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

          Needs a definition? I thought it's quite obvious that a Warrior, in the context of this forum, is a registered member.

          Guests naturally get benefits but they aren't part of the community and as I put forward - weren't the intentional target of the special offers.

          It doesn't matter what I think though. People seem to treat the WSO forum as an online store when I don't think that was the intention at all.
          Well, for the very point you highlight, no, it's not obvious...
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Troy,
          It doesn't matter what I think though. People seem to treat the WSO forum as an online store when I don't think that was the intention at all.
          It wasn't originally, no. But the insane growth of the past few years has changed the nature of the place.

          This used to be a community with an attached marketplace. The marketplace now overshadows the community in terms of traffic, largely because of the advent of WF-linked affiliate systems.

          As they say in The Old Country: Shift happens.


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  • Profile picture of the author bit twiddler
    I've read that there are those who have been "gaming" the WSO system using multiple accounts. I think this will help to curb such things. I do use a user name, but I believe in transparency and therefore always have my real name in my footer.

    I think the boss has implemented a long overdue and very welcomed response to some of the issues this great place has been met with.

    Thanks Allen, et al
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    • Profile picture of the author Rbtmarshall
      Originally Posted by bit twiddler View Post

      I've read that there are those who have been "gaming" the WSO system using multiple accounts. I think this will help to curb such things. I do use a user name, but I believe in transparency and therefore always have my real name in my footer.

      I think the boss has implemented a long overdue and very welcomed response to some of the issues this great place has been met with.

      Thanks Allen, et al
      My initial thought was that also. But, what prevents someone profiting to spend an extra $40 to join the war room, that $40 may end up being a small expenses that can easily be offset in the product launch.

      This $10 membership fee is going to keep the spam down in Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum . People who come in the asking a dumb ass question then referring a website or unique oddball keyword to search and generate clicks/leads.
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    • Profile picture of the author ShaneGorry
      Originally Posted by bit twiddler View Post

      I've read that there are those who have been "gaming" the WSO system using multiple accounts. I think this will help to curb such things. I do use a user name, but I believe in transparency and therefore always have my real name in my footer.

      I think the boss has implemented a long overdue and very welcomed response to some of the issues this great place has been met with.

      Thanks Allen, et al
      To post a WSO you always had to be a War Room Member. So to have multiple accounts as you put it these people would have to have paid for War Room Membership multiple times. Charging ten dollars for those who don't want War Room Membership will have no effect on the situation you describe in the event that it is occurring.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Shane,
        To post a WSO you always had to be a War Room Member. So to have multiple accounts as you put it these people would have to have paid for War Room Membership multiple times. Charging ten dollars for those who don't want War Room Membership will have no effect on the situation you describe in the event that it is occurring.
        Bit twiddler was talking, I think, about people who created multiple free accounts to post fake testimonials. That wasn't common, but it did happen. I've banned a number of WSO sellers for that stuff.


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        • Profile picture of the author ShaneGorry
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Shane,Bit twiddler was talking, I think, about people who created multiple free accounts to post fake testimonials. That wasn't common, but it did happen. I've banned a number of WSO sellers for that stuff.


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          Oh right. In that case I totally agree with Bit twiddler that this is yet another positive to come out of this change. Thanks for the clarity.
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        • Profile picture of the author bit twiddler
          YES! That's among the less than scrupulous tactics I've read in other locations. I know that if you bring a great presentation, a product of great value, and develop relationships with JV's, you can get all of the testimonials necessary for a great launch.

          I lived the first half of my 59 years "gaming" everything and many times it brought me misery. That's the way I grew up. My father was a retired gangster and restaurant owner from the 30's, 40's 50's and 60's. That is all he knew. I've since altered my methods and posture. If you want long term successful relationships online, or off, the "gaming" game isn't the way to go. My word and my reputation are important to my relationships and don't bring me any misery.

          Play the Warrior Game by the rules and you can create a sustained stream of income online, and off, that can grow and mature unfettered.

          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Shane,Bit twiddler was talking, I think, about people who created multiple free accounts to post fake testimonials. That wasn't common, but it did happen. I've banned a number of WSO sellers for that stuff.


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  • Profile picture of the author Rbtmarshall
    Just a suggestion:


    This section is for making Warrior members a Special Offer. A Special Offer means making Warriors a deal like no others get. Usually that comes in the form of a much lower price. No junk offers will be approved here.
    Maybe this wording of this forum description should be changed to reflect that the offer is By warriors instead of For warriors. Still making them Warrior Special Offers
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
    Older warriors will remember back in the day when you had to pay to gain access to the warrior forum . I remember a download section with lots of goodies when you signed up and the forum was just starting to become the main product.

    Back then $10 would have been a great buy to get in, now there are tens of thousands new warriors in the forum so it's still a good deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author DotComBum
    It's like a membership site, if you want to access for great information you have to pay, just like buying a newspaper or magazine to get news and info.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      Originally Posted by DotComBum View Post

      It's like a membership site, if you want to access for great information you have to pay, just like buying a newspaper or magazine to get news and info.
      Is the analogy a good one?

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      • Profile picture of the author DotComBum
        Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

        Is the analogy a good one?

        Yes, you are free to browse but if you want to buy it you can refer back later, but here is far more better than a magazine hahahah
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        that was the accepted status quo
        Now we have a new status quo - changing with the times.
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  • Profile picture of the author Swapnil7
    Great Move to reduce Spam on the board, it will help to attract only perspective and real willing members to join our community.
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  • Profile picture of the author internetmonkey
    Hopefully this move will cut down on some of the out of place comments and as long as the WSO threads remain public, I don't see a problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    Could every WSO have an additional buy button show up if a paid member was logged in?

    Example:

    "Buy Now" button 1 = $37.

    "WF Member Buy Now" button 2 (Only shows up when paid member is logged in) = $17

    Let the visitors come and buy all they want. However, if they want a special offer let them help support the forum first.

    I have never posted a WSO nor am I an affiliate so I really have no business brain-storming about this topic. I will say over the years I have purchased some incredible WSO's for unbelievably low prices.

    @Allen, thanks for grandfathering us in. In a couple years when you need to change it to $10 a month I hope you can grandfather us again. J
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Janice,
      Could every WSO have an additional buy button show up if a paid member was logged in?

      Example:

      “Buy Now” button 1 = $37.

      “WF Member Buy Now” button 2 (Only shows up when paid member is logged in) = $17
      I don't know if that's technically feasible, but I love the idea.
      @Allen, thanks for grandfathering us in. In a couple years when you need to change it to $10 a month I hope you can grandfather us again.
      Ummm... You already paid, ma'am.


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      • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Ummm... You already paid, ma'am.


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        Ha Ha - I forgot I paid for the WR membership - it is such a trivial amount for what you get on the inside.
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      • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Janice,I don't know if that's technically feasible, but I love the idea.
        It might be possible to have WSO sellers add an additional button surrounded by some sort of token like
        Code:
         [loggedin]button code here[/loggedin]
        and have a custom script on the forum strip that code for non logged in viewers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by Janice Sperry View Post

      Could every WSO have an additional buy button show up if a paid member was logged in?

      Example:

      “Buy Now” button 1 = $37.

      “WF Member Buy Now” button 2 (Only shows up when paid member is logged in) = $17

      Let the visitors come and buy all they want. However, if they want a special offer let them help support the forum first.

      I have never posted a WSO nor am I an affiliate so I really have no business brain-storming about this topic. I will say over the years I have purchased some incredible WSO’s for unbelievably low prices.

      @Allen, thanks for grandfathering us in. In a couple years when you need to change it to $10 a month I hope you can grandfather us again. J
      Hi Janice,

      There have been many discussions about how to make the WSO board better, and not one has ever taken hold.

      Until now.

      Regardless of implementation, I think your idea is brilliant, and I wonder why no one has ever mentioned it before (to the best of my knowledge).

      Thumbs up!

      All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by Janice Sperry View Post

      Let the visitors come and buy all they want. However, if they want a special offer let them help support the forum first.
      They support the forum when they buy WSOs. The more people who buy WSOs, the more WSOs there are. The more WSOs there are, the more money the WF makes. Your recommendation would result in fewer sales for sellers, which will likely translate into fewer WSOs, which equals less money for the WF.

      The WF isn't the only place special offers are available, and some of those places get more popular every day. If Allen wants to push vendors and buyers away from here to those other places instead, your idea will probably help him accomplish that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
      If your intent is to help the Warrior Forum, may I suggest that both buttons be displayed for everyone, with an additional link to join the War Room.

      Buy Now - $37
      War Room Members - $17

      Join the War Room here.


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      Originally Posted by Janice Sperry View Post

      Could every WSO have an additional buy button show up if a paid member was logged in?

      Example:

      "Buy Now" button 1 = $37.

      "WF Member Buy Now" button 2 (Only shows up when paid member is logged in) = $17

      Let the visitors come and buy all they want. However, if they want a special offer let them help support the forum first.

      I have never posted a WSO nor am I an affiliate so I really have no business brain-storming about this topic. I will say over the years I have purchased some incredible WSO's for unbelievably low prices.

      @Allen, thanks for grandfathering us in. In a couple years when you need to change it to $10 a month I hope you can grandfather us again. J
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  • awesome. keeps out the rift raft and only those who are serious join. That is the best way to run a forum when you want to keep the quality high.
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  • Profile picture of the author NBAY
    I think that's very reasonable. I personally think joining the website was one of the best investments I have made in a long time. Being a member on this forum is worth thousands of dollars when used wisely.

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    Is there an option to buy all the paid services for like $99.95 (lifetime)? So there is no need to pay over and over again for different pay options.
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    now world is turning into that phase where nothing is free of cost. Well, lets pay and be liable, cause you are paying so you have to count on every single penny... no fuss ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Instead of $10, it should $12.77.

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    Well worth it. Good move IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bobby Asburn
    $10 isn't much considering all the information in WF. It's a good decision taken.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    Steve, you have to be registered to ask a question here too. (Questions and Answers can be viewable to the public.)
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      Originally Posted by Steve Wells View Post

      I may be wrong, but I do not believe that asking a question is open to the public, from what I have tried, they have to log-in to ask a question, and in order to log-in they need an ebay account.
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      Steve, you have to be registered to ask a question here too. (Questions and Answers can be viewable to the public.)
      Yes - you need to log into Ebay, but that is still free.

      Ebay does have a "reviews" area which is used for product reviews.

      Seller feedback is provided for customers to give feedback of their experience with the seller - but only those who have purchased from a specific seller have that option.

      Perhaps if there was a way for someone to register to this forum and only have access to pop reviews on the WSO area - but you'd still get spammers in the threads so that would defeat the whole purpose of what was just done.
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  • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
    Buyers can ask questions publicly on Ebay.
    Actually, they can't.

    It's up to the seller to post the question and answer to the auction or not.

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    Matt,
    Paul, I should inform you that they no longer accept payment by carrier pigeon.
    Consider yourself told.


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  • Profile picture of the author hmpargi
    This is good to make forum paid. but then instead of charging them 10$ on registration can't we do something else and they still can register in here. Because when i joined. I was free member then I buy many wso. which helped me personally here. and i was free member at that time but i was spending money on wso. The thing is i didn't know about warrior forum in first place. but as free user i need chance to go around look out stuff..

    Now question here is. Is visitors are allowed to look at the threads and read atlist not reply. but can they read.. ? read and even they allowed to by wso?
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  • Profile picture of the author admin
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    I'm going to lock this thread now, it's a little weird :-)

    We're not ebay for one. And two nothing whatsoever has changed as far as guests are concerned. They can still read everything they could read before and buy any WSO like they did before. The single difference is that if you want to register now there is a small fee to weed out the crap of our society.

    That's it.
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