Product Creation is Easy...Finding Affiliates...Not So Much!

by Dexx
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Anyone else seem to be a in a similar boat?

Everyone always talks about the money is in creating products, and I have no problem being able to do that!

But I just can't seem to attract affiliates for new products that get created...

I post in the JV forum here, and on the ClickBank forum on DP...

What are some other good methods to attract or get the attention of affiliates to brand new products?
#affiliatesnot #creation #easyfinding #product
  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    "Killer" sales copy - many affiliates are discriminating.

    Promise value to make affiliate-promotion easy - a
    pre-written email series they can mail their lists,
    hot banners, keyword lists, viral videos they can
    use and upload to video-sharing sites, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author mgcstrat
    Affiliates are generally lazy, so I hear, so you really need to provide them with a program that is already converting to get them to jump on board. Having all the supporting artwork and sales text is most helpful too.

    In other words, you need to give affiliates a real reason to join your program. If they can sense that you are reputable and have invested good time into a quality product, they are more likely to join your program.

    What have you done thus far?
    What are you conversion rates?
    Have you done testing/split testing on ads?

    I hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Ah okay I understand what you are both talking about, though I guess to expand on my original question...

    Once all of this material is created for them...

    How do I find / get the word out to affiliates in the best way?
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      i have the exact opposite problem that u have, and that is creating products lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    The secret is to create a uniquely desirable product, compelling offer, with copy that converts.

    In other words... don't be a "me too."

    Stand out because of the quality and unique approach.

    Also make sure you are in a high demand market where there is competition and plenty of people dissatisfied with the current options on the market and looking for better alternatives.

    If you have that affiliates will knock on your door.
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  • Profile picture of the author Damz
    And you must offer some decent amount at least $20+ for the affiliates. Its the main thing that affiliates looking for promoting a product.
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    • Profile picture of the author sylviad
      I agree with Ben.

      Offer them more than 50% - maybe even 75%
      so they feel they are getting a good chunk of the pie
      and not just working to make money for you.

      Your payout has to be substantial. I'm selling a
      product that pays a measly $8.95. His price is
      priced way too low, so even 50% is crappy. I don't promote
      it.

      He does the promotion and my hidden page manages
      to get picked up when people search for his product name.
      In that sense, it's good because I'm doing absolutely
      nothing to make that money. It's really not worth it though
      at 5 sales a month = $45. Instead, I could be selling
      one of the related products on my site that pays $34 each.

      How to get affiliates?

      I just launched my own product, listed it on CB and posted
      it on a few other affiliate networks. But somehow it got
      picked up by other sites that are listing it as an affiliate
      product. I've no idea how that happened. :confused:

      So I would recommend running a search for 'affiliate networks'
      and any sites where you can list your product. Send the link
      to your affiliate page rather than your sales page if you don't
      have an affiliate link on your sales page.

      Don't make the mistake I did... and forget to put your sales
      page link on your affiliate page. :rolleyes:

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      • Profile picture of the author Dexx
        Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

        So I would recommend running a search for 'affiliate networks'
        and any sites where you can list your product. Send the link
        to your affiliate page rather than your sales page if you don't
        have an affiliate link on your sales page.

        Don't make the mistake I did... and forget to put your sales
        page link on your affiliate page. :rolleyes:

        Sylvia
        Oh wow Sylvia, a search for affiliate networks! haha never even thought of that!

        I'll try that out later today, thank you
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        • Profile picture of the author sylviad
          You're welcome, Dexx

          Another thing you can do is to submit some press releases
          about your new product launch.

          Put notices on any and all marketing and affiliate forums
          that allow it, ie: in sig files and if they have special sections
          on affiliates/jvs. Go beyond WF. There are tons.

          Also... don't overlook targeting sites that cater to your niche.
          ie: Forums and chat boards where people talk about your
          niche. You just might find someone who'd love to make a few
          bucks as an affiliate.

          That should help.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
    Find a good JV Broker.....that is the best way!

    There are a few of us around

    This goes beyond affiliate networks because a lot of them
    will produce the same results as the JV Forum here.

    Also, go to the JV Network sites...which are few...and
    get your product listed there.

    And as mentioned above...you definitely want to have some
    proven conversion, a nice affiliate suite of tools as well as
    other marketing assets.

    Don't under estimate the necessity of a good JV Invite page which
    has specific info about what is in it for the JV Partner / Affiliate.

    Hope this helps

    Highest Regards,
    Sean
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    • Profile picture of the author Dexx
      Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

      Find a good JV Broker.....that is the best way!

      There are a few of us around

      Highest Regards,
      Sean
      That sounds like it could be pretty expensive (vs posting for free in the different affiliate forums such as was suggested)

      Is there much information (as far as increased results over the previous suggestion) to learn more about this as a strategy?
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      • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
        Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

        That sounds like it could be pretty expensive (vs posting for free in the different affiliate forums such as was suggested)

        Is there much information (as far as increased results over the previous suggestion) to learn more about this as a strategy?

        Hey Dex,

        Well it depends on your perspective and the arrangement. Depending on what exactly the arrangement is ....you may be out an additional percentage but your results usually are far better (provided you have good copy)

        Brokers tend to be connected with several marketers from small list owners to large ones. And the relationship base is strong and the affiliates tend to produce more results.

        I have seen product creators bring on hundreds of affiliates who produce nothing. Could it be the sales copy? Maybe....but it could also be the affiliate that is bouncing from program to program and not putting forth the proper effort to adequately promote.

        Furthermore, a broker or JV Manger tends to produce more favorable results based on affiliate motivating, effective communication and such.
        I would rather spend an additional 10-20% for results vs nothing.

        Of course, Brokers are selective with the programs they promote and there are certain things that are required but at the end of the day....you have the possibility to gaining access to some people who have very large lists....more importantly....produce results.

        Highest Regards,

        Sean
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    • Profile picture of the author Trader54
      Originally Posted by The IM Reporter View Post

      Find a good JV Broker.....that is the best way!
      Say on a $97 dollar product what % does a JV Broker charge?
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      • Profile picture of the author Marta K
        You can also include a video in your sales letter. sometimes a simple thing like that helps. pictures of people giving testimonials is another thing. Make it real and long. Tell the story - if you convince people to use the software, they will tell others. automatic aff signup. lots of little thing add up. Find forums with 'users' - they usually know others. Try making it viral - catchy videos work really well lately.
        Getting affiliate is no different than getting client - but convince them they are going to look like gurus AND make money of this deal.
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    • Profile picture of the author Galactus
      Originally Posted by Sean A McAlister View Post

      Find a good JV Broker.....that is the best way!

      There are a few of us around

      This goes beyond affiliate networks because a lot of them
      will produce the same results as the JV Forum here.

      Also, go to the JV Network sites...which are few...and
      get your product listed there.

      And as mentioned above...you definitely want to have some
      proven conversion, a nice affiliate suite of tools as well as
      other marketing assets.

      Don't under estimate the necessity of a good JV Invite page which
      has specific info about what is in it for the JV Partner / Affiliate.

      Hope this helps

      Highest Regards,
      Sean
      That is the Smart way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Originally Posted by ProductCreator View Post

    Dexx, what is the niche? I presume it is not internet marketing because for the IM niche it is incredibly easy to find affiliates.
    Well I create windows software applications, so the product I'm currently promoting is the File Management Software in my signature link (it's my first attempt to sell software on ClickBank)

    Still in the process of creating the affiliate material such as autoresponder messages and articles for submission.

    But it has such flexibility for use that the software itself could be used for almost any niche that an affiliate is in, I just need to get that message to them! heh
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  • Profile picture of the author willies
    I agree with the fellow who talked about high commission.

    If it is a digital product, like I believe it is, you can offer as much as 75% as has been suggested and still make a huge amount of money. Afterall, you don't spend money on any inventory.

    When affiliates see this and the product is good judging from the sales letter, which of course should contain what to expect from purchase of the product, they are likely to join your program and promote your product.

    However, make sure you offer incentives like excellent support, marketing materials and so on. This can also make them to refer other people into the program.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Puddy
    If i want to attract a particulr JV partner the first thing i do is go out and promte his/her product make them a whole lot of sales get in their top ten promoters list and wait for him/her to conatc me and they will...

    that way I have the leverage... as opposed to me just asking them, then they have all the chips

    Robert
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  • Profile picture of the author BigG95
    Sign up @ JVNotify.com, that's where most Top Affiliates hang out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Trader54
      Originally Posted by BigG95 View Post

      Sign up @ JVNotify.com, that's where most Top Affiliates hang out.
      Did you mean JVNotifypro.com, I found it and thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
        Originally Posted by Trader54 View Post

        Did you mean JVNotifypro.com, I found it and thanks.

        Another one is

        JVProductlaunch.com
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  • Profile picture of the author TerryTelford
    Hi Dexx,

    You've got the key to the vault right in front of you. This forum is full of people who have databases of subscribers, know how to market and are always looking for fresh quality products to promote for a solid 50-75% commission. And we're all easy to contact All you need to do is reach out and start contacting us personally.

    Talk again soon.

    Enjoy your day!
    Terry
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  • Profile picture of the author dndoseller
    Try very high prices products with high 75% commission. Clickbank affiliates come out of the woodwork.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Sol
    You could always Google a similar product...
    Then go through all the sponsored ads and try to contact these folks...
    Give them a reason why they should promote your stuff
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    I didn't do it myself yet because I didn't have enough time for that, but I learned from an expert that if you want to have affiliates really working to sell your products, you have to make things very easy for them, teaching them everything, step by step, and sending them many messages with more tips, encouraging them, giving prizes, etc.

    They key is to make everything simple, showing them exactly how to promote your products, besides giving them all the necessary tools. Something like: do-this, now-do-that...
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  • Profile picture of the author jhongren
    Hi Dex,

    Another way of recruiting affiliates is to get the help from an affiliate manager.

    Personally I have an affiliate manager who helps me to manage my affiliates from recruiting to training and building up my affiliate center. You can PM me if you need help in looking for one.

    Jimmy D Brown has a very good resource on managing and recruiting of affiliates..you can check out here .. you should get his book (not affiliate link)
    :: Sales Army Secrets :: How To Get Thousands Of Other People Promoting Your Products!

    Cheers,
    John
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  • Profile picture of the author Woody C
    Try this for finding and keeping affiliates:

    :: Sales Army Secrets :: How To Get Thousands Of Other People Promoting Your Products!

    It is a wonderful e-book, but Jimmy also gives you valuable info in the e-course if you just opt-in.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhongren
    Hi Woody,

    Looks like Jimmy really did leave a very deep impression on both of us. =)

    We recommended the same resource at almost the same time. =)

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author DennisM
    Hi Dexx,

    One option is to find an affiliate in your niche doing their own launch. You can then ask if they'd be willing to put your product as a one time offer - OTO. I'd offer a min. of 75% commission or even possibly a full 100%!

    See, you'd be building your own list of BUYERS! Buyers are GOLD! You'd then be well prepared for your next launch with buyers list!

    This plan works wonders in other niches because some have NEVER heard of an OTO. Heck, depending on the size of the list the JV has I'd even provide the OTO script.

    Check out this posting right here on the WF....

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...knows-you.html

    Scroll down to post #41. I mentioned in detail a couple of ways to find JV's

    Good luck!

    Dennis
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Spencer
    Here's the best investment I ever made on finding affiliates, setting up a killer affiliate program, etc.

    Salesarmysecrets.com (not affiliate link)

    This ebook package by Jimmy D. Brown KICKED ASS!!! Plain and simple...and it comes with the who, what, when, where, why, and how of affiliate programs.

    Get it and you won't need anything else...I promise.

    Best wishes,

    Brad Spencer





    Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

    Anyone else seem to be a in a similar boat?

    Everyone always talks about the money is in creating products, and I have no problem being able to do that!

    But I just can't seem to attract affiliates for new products that get created...

    I post in the JV forum here, and on the ClickBank forum on DP...

    What are some other good methods to attract or get the attention of affiliates to brand new products?
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I got a question on this. I recently launched an ebook product and got it on Clickbank. Yesterday I received out of the blue, from someone I don't know from squat, an email

    Here it is:

    Greetings from your new clickbank affiliate from Singapore.)

    Your unique "Niche Demon" moneymaking system sure sounds too
    irresistible to ignore. I would love to put forward my joint venture
    proposal for promoting to my own optin list of about 1400 members,
    comprised mostly of newbies & money-making opportunity seekers who
    would I feel be excellent targeted prospects for this deal If
    my offer is acceptable to you, please forward a review copy of your
    e-book for my
    personal evaluation first, so that I can proceed to write an unbiased
    recommendation before starting to organize my campaigns. Lately I
    have had the opportunity to review a couple of other similar killer
    marketing systems, including Liz Tomey's "5 Day Cash
    Machine" & one newly-launched "MiniSite Formula" & I would be raving
    to add yours to my marketing arsenal too.

    Looking forward to your positive response & to initiating a lasting
    & mutually beneficial biz relationship with you very soon,


    So ... anyone here launch a product and get emails like this? I don't know how to respond. I don't really want to give away review copies to total strangers.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrdomains
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post



      So ... anyone here launch a product and get emails like this? I don't know how to respond. ..
      DonĀ“t respond. They are fishing and will probably rip you off somehow.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    I'd ask for examples of their proof for quality reviews / affiliate promotions
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  • Profile picture of the author Franck Silvestre
    To find affiliates, you can use Marlon Sanders Affiliate Dashboard. It's an awesome "dashboard" that will show you step by step by step.

    Franck
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