Clickbank Alternatives for vendors AND affiliates??

11 years ago

Shopping Cart | Affiliate Software | Sell Online comes to mind. They allow Google Checkout, PayPal, and authorize.net

Not quite as full a set of features as Clickbank, but they're up and coming.

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Mr. Ken Russell

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Sarevok

Why is the death of clickbank a sure thing now? I think clickbank is still awesome.

Does anyone know the implication of the clickbank color rating thingy?

PS: Not meaning to highjack thread. JVZoo is one I've seen with momentum as of late, also Paypal seems pretty good. (as long as you don't get lots of complaints, but really, you don't want complaints anywhere).

Here's 5:

Custom Shopping Cart
Free Signup
Infusion Soft
1ShoppingCart
PayPal

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Sarevok

11 years ago

Why is the death of clickbank a sure thing now? I think clickbank is still awesome.

Does anyone know the implication of the clickbank color rating thingy?

PS: Not meaning to highjack thread. JVZoo is one I've seen with momentum as of late, also Paypal seems pretty good. (as long as you don't get lots of complaints, but really, you don't want complaints anywhere).

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ShaneGorry

11 years ago

I hear a Bob Dylan tune in my head. Survival of the most adaptable seems to be what divides the sheep from the goats in business.

Originally Posted by Sarevok

Why is the death of clickbank a sure thing now? I think clickbank is still awesome.

Does anyone know the implication of the clickbank color rating thingy?

PS: Not meaning to highjack thread. JVZoo is one I've seen with momentum as of late, also Paypal seems pretty good. (as long as you don't get lots of complaints, but really, you don't want complaints anywhere).

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Brains Gone Wild

So it begins.... the death of Clickbank.

For the record, ClickBank has been established longer than Google, has (as of today) now paid out over $2.25 Billion in client earnings, and continues to grow steadily. Meanwhile, in internet marketing forums, its impending demise has been announced at least several times per month ever since I've been online.

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Brains Gone Wild

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

For the record, ClickBank has been established longer than Google, has (as of today) now paid out over $2.25 Billion in client earnings, and continues to grow steadily. Meanwhile, in internet marketing forums, its impending demise has been announced at least several times per month ever since I've been online.

True, Alexa. However, the same could be said about Paypal. After years of policy changes, millions in marketer funds withheld, bad business decisions and general insanity - most internet marketers won't touch Paypal with a 10 ft pole. Just because CB (and Paypal) have track records and a history of financial success, it doesn't mean that they can't shoot themselves in the foot. (see Google). Ironically, CB may prove to not be evergreen.

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Randall Magwood

11 years ago

Paydotcom is a good alternatives. Allows you to block affiliates who are messing up your business.

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NelsonSanabria

11 years ago

plimus
click2sell .eu
jvzoo
paydotcom
Cj

just a couple no particular order!

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realaffiliatereviews

11 years ago

creating your own private offer on your own platform is where a lot are going. mainly due to clickbank not approving IM related offers, and also, because clickbank's refund rate is ridiculous since they refund to anyone and everyone.

i actually have done this with my offers. i moved my offers over to my own merchant and use 1shoppingcart for my affiliate program.

actually, i just added a CPA offer that pays $50 per $4.95 sale and if anyone is interested in mailing for the offer, pm me and i can get you setup in our system.

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Coolstro

11 years ago

Here is a comparison chart Compare JVZoo.com to Clickbank and the rest of the Competition

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BeechHill

11 years ago

This seems to be a prevalent situation. Google slaps, Amazon affiliate cancellations and now Clickbank. Followed by many more third party players soon. It's all just a natural maturation of the technology. I guess that means less shortcuts and more talent and work needed to produce something of worth which creates less problems and returns real value to the customer. Which is to say, same as it ever was.

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celente

11 years ago

jVZOO

paydotcom

I still like clickbank, and think it is the best even though they are doing this stupid color coding things.

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realaffiliatereviews

11 years ago

i agree with brains gone wild. paypal is becoming an issue as well and jv zoo runs everything through paypal. if you have havent been burned by paypal yet, you are most certainly on their list at some point in time, especially if you sell IM related products. i have had so many partners get burned by them and i dont trust them to hold on to my money so for many, jvzoo isnt an option unless they integrate with merchant accounts.

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MarketingMinded

11 years ago

JVZoo is a viable option. Good for both, vendors and affiliates.

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aceshigh888

11 years ago

Well I can't complain I got checks from clickbank for 10 years actually! So I can't complain, but still I'm going to. They are so unfair about what products they accept and not accept. I mean you put all this work into creating a product and then submit it and they reject it for no good reason. It's so dumb. I'm just about to launch something new. I guess I must love being the CB whipping boy cuz I think my best bet is to try get on with them again. They'll probably reject. If they don't I'm golden, if they do then I'll just go with some small no name outfit. I'm not excited about that either but I guess that's all the name of the game. But ya I just hate when big companies are not fair and unbiased. They give sweet heart deals to there insider crew of snake oil sales men and everyone else is locked out.

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Alexa Smith Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by aceshigh888

They are so unfair about what products they accept and not accept.

There are reasons for that, hello.

They're becoming a little stricter (though they'll still accept product-types and sales-page-types that neither Plimus nor 2Checkout will accept, and say so openly) not because they want to make life difficult for vendors but in response to the significantly changing regulatory climate and the demands of their own upline financial service providers.

Exactly the same is true of companies like PayPal and many of their competitors.

Originally Posted by aceshigh888

I mean you put all this work into creating a product and then submit it and they reject it for no good reason.

With absolutely no wish to sound unsympathetic about it, I appreciate that to the person who's had a product declined, it's often going to feel like it's "for no good reason", even though ClickBank is actually less strict regarding product acceptance and approval than many other retailers/processors.

I wish you good luck with it, anyway.
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aula

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Brains Gone Wild

So it begins.... the death of Clickbank.

unfortunately it really looks this way

Clickbank designed the colours system in order to keep the money
from over 80% of the accounts (by saying they didn't reach the absurd requirements they invented...)

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StingGB

11 years ago

Originally Posted by aula

Clickbank designed the colours system in order to keep the money
from over 80% of the accounts (by saying they didn't reach the absurd requirements they invented...)

I agree. I only occasionally referred clients to Clickbank products when they were relevant. Consequently I only got the very occasional sale. Because it was several months between my first and second sale, Clickbank literally took all of my first commission, charging me monthly fees for holding onto my money. I can now see my second and third sales commissions going the same way. They not only stole the money from me, but also from the product vendor. I'm done with them now, I'm not referring anyone else to Clickbank products because I've never received one single penny of the commission I fairly earned. The company can go to Hell as far as I'm concerned, they are nothing but thieves.

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aula

11 years ago

Originally Posted by StingGB

I agree. Because it was several months between my first and second sale, Clickbank literally stole all of my first commission, charging me monthly fees for holding onto my money. I can now see my second and third sales commissions going the same way. They not only stole the money from me, but also from the product vendor. I'm done with them now, I'm not referring anyone else to Clickbank products because I've never received a penny of the commission I fairly earned. The company can go to Hell as far as I'm concerned, they are nothing but thieves.

And that was until now. Now they charge so much more higher fees for literally ANYTHING and they charge absurdly high fees whenever there is a refund.

And for sure in any decent serious correct business, the affilliate will never be penalized for a refund, more than losing his commission.

but in Clickbank, when there is a refund, you not only lose all your commission,
but you also pay EXTRA 45.00 $ penalization fee.... !!!

Yes, it is truly mindblowing how Clickbank has become...

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StingGB 11 years ago

Originally Posted by aula

but in Clickbank, when there is a refund, you not only lose all your commission, but you also pay EXTRA about 50.00 $ penalization "markup" fee.... !!!

Blimey, I didn't know that. I don't understand how a company like this can be allowed to exist. Don't you have laws against these sort of scam business practices in the US? In the UK for instance, when bank charges crept up to around £30 each, the government stepped in and capped it at a few pounds to reflect the true cost. We were also allowed to claim back all the money they'd overcharged us, plus interest, costing them billions.
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aula

11 years ago

here are the official fees from their website:

Refunds and Chargebacks

Chargeback fee: ClickBank Markup* Greater of ClickBank Markup or $45

so this is on top of losing completely your commission, you are also penalized extra !!!

money that goes straight from your pockets, to Clickbank's very fat pockets...

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kayfrank

11 years ago

I don't think clickbank will die - its too established.

However, I prefer JVZoo personally. The layout and ease of use. I like the payment and refund system. Great for sorting out OTOs really easily.

Yes I'm a fan (at the moment!). And you can add a product for free so test it out and see how you get on. There is a small commission for JVZoo but they also do promote your product for you!

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Harvey Segal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by StingGB

They not only stole the money from me

You mean they deducted the dormancy fee which is clearly explained in their terms and conditions which you agreed to

Originally Posted by StingGB

but also from the product vendor.

They did not deduct any fee from the vendor

Originally Posted by aula

but in Clickbank, when there is a refund, you not only lose all your commission,
but you also pay EXTRA 45.00 $ penalization fee.... !!!

Yes, it is truly mindblowing how Clickbank has become...

And it is truly mindblowing how you have got your figures so utterly wrong.

Instead of $45 it should be $3 maximum

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