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Spinning And Mass Distributing Articles

by enterprisemind
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HI,

How important to building traffic is spinning articles and submitting them to low quality article directories? Also, are all of these articles unique, or do some of the same articles get submitted in multitude? I see the backlink potential, but also see it as potential time wasted. Would it have the same effect if you just submit original article to about 5 high ranking article directories? Please advise.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Originally Posted by enterprisemind View Post

    HI,

    How important to building traffic is spinning articles and submitting them to low quality article directories?
    It's not a question of importance but rather one of how effective. Complete waste of time and not effective.

    I see the backlink potential, but also see it as potential time wasted.
    The backlink value is low and not worth it. It is time wasted.

    Would it have the same effect if you just submit original article to about 5 high ranking article directories? Please advise.
    No, but there are better ways to get backlinks and traffic. I don't think article directories should be a part of your marketing or backlinking campaigns. Article directories took a dive in 2011 with the first Panda update. Been in the toilet ever since.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheContentAuthority
    Enterprisemend,

    I would not spend any time submitting low quality content. It is also unwise to submit any kind of content to a low PR website. You would do far better writing a handful of good articles and submitting them to high PR web 2.0 properties than you would submitting dozens of spun article to low quality sites.

    Also, reputable web 2.0s will not allow you to submit duplicate articles.

    Here are some off-page best practices that may give you some good ideas,

    SEO Off Page Best Practices | TechJaws.com

    Hope that helps,

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  • Profile picture of the author trade4861
    Honestly, I cant see the purpose of spinning articles, even for SEO purposes. Especially if your submitting the same article to several directories. Any mass submission of an article will just go straight to Google’s supplemental index. I highly doubt that links in the supplemental index help in SEO. Spun articles that don’t go to the supplemental index will never be linked to. I see it as being totally pointless. Article spinning should be considered a thing of the past.
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    • Profile picture of the author PCH
      Listen to what these guys are saying. It's true, spinning articles is considered immensely ineffective. Most spinners just spin out rubbish anyway, soif you have to proof read and make changes, you'd be best to make any changes manually.

      I know, there will still be people who like spinning. No arguements with them. All I'm saying is that I here much mor from people who think it's a waste of time.

      I've only used one personally, and I didn't like the output at all.
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      • Profile picture of the author 1byte
        Never liked the crappy results output by various "spinners" and could never bring myself to submit any of it to article directories, web 2.0s, etc. I think article spinning is (thankfully) going the way of the dinosaurs...
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        • Profile picture of the author CyberSEO
          Originally Posted by 1byte View Post

          Never liked the crappy results output by various "spinners"
          What's about spinning your own articles written in Spintax?
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    If you want to get traffic from article directories - you write articles then submit manually them to 5 - 10 article directories that have high traffic. It is better than than spin existing hundreds of articles and submitting them to hundreds article directories.

    If you want backlinks only, not traffic - submitting hundreds of spinned articles to hundreds of article directories.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnrone
    Spinning doesn't really help you in your SEO or marketing effots. As what others have said, it really is ineffective simply because the spun article or description doesn't provide a genuine and remarkable content. More often than not, the spun article or description has grammatical errors and appears to be of spammy nature. Thus, when submitted to various sites, it would result to suspension of accounts or you will end up being banned. So, I would rather submit a genuine article to only one site, not to multiple sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author 100KAffiliateManager
    At best you're wasting your time, and at worst you could be damaging your site and reputation. The backlink value will be zero and anyone that does somehow get to the articles and starts reading spun content is not going to find any value, read very much or want to even click on any links directing them back to your money site.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Low quality work can come back to haunt you. I've caught a lot of people copying my content. Indian writers are the worst for this - be wary if you're outsourcing for $1 an article or something. DMCA is proving very effective at taking it down, but I think suing the thieves could be a nice new business for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberSEO
    So what's about high quality spinning of your own texts?
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    Speaking from personal experience, the articles don't convert into $$$...THAT'a the main problem...aren't you into IM to make money? Why crank out articles that can't do it for you?

    Focus on the reader...great copy is what makes the sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesse L
    Originally Posted by enterprisemind View Post

    HI,

    How important to building traffic is spinning articles and submitting them to low quality article directories? Also, are all of these articles unique, or do some of the same articles get submitted in multitude? I see the backlink potential, but also see it as potential time wasted. Would it have the same effect if you just submit original article to about 5 high ranking article directories? Please advise.

    Thanks
    It is probably best to create content that people can use. If you want good links, create guides! People love guides.
    I have even had a few of mine mentioned in large online publications and news services. These types of backlinks are awesome!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by enterprisemind View Post

    How important to building traffic is spinning articles and submitting them to low quality article directories?
    There's no potential benefit from this.

    These days, it'll probably get your site heavily penalized for "overoptimization" by Google's "Penguin update". This has already happened to large numbers of Warriors, and they've been told expressly and openly by Google that this is the reason.

    This is an activity for people who don't quite appreciate how article directories work, I'm afraid. Multiple article directory submission is pointless, and without benefits. It's all explained, in great detail, in this thread: How do Article Directories work?

    Don't even think about it.

    "Spinning" is also completely without value. It can damage your business, but it can't help you. Everyone who actually makes a living from article marketing (rather than from supplying spinning software or services) says the same things about spinning. And there are reasons for that.

    For people open-minded enough to read them, these six items explain much more, at greater length and in greater detail.
    • this post explains the benefits of spinning
    • the first half (or so) of this thread contains a good discussion of what you can gain from spinning articles
    • the advice on this subject given by so many people throughout most of this thread has been really helpful to many people here
    • on the meaning and significance of "duplicate content", in this context, this little post from expert article marketer Anne Pottinger includes direct quotations from Google's WebMaster Central Blog on the subject (not easy to find a more authoritative source than that!)
    • this little article is also a very useful and accurate explanation of the subject
    • this post, and its links, explain in detail the closely related subject of how article directories really work and why they exist
    Originally Posted by enterprisemind View Post

    Would it have the same effect if you just submit original article to about 5 high ranking article directories?
    No - it would typically have a much better, much safer, much more productive and profitable effect.

    Though I must say, for me, 5 is still "too many directories". It's about 3 - 4 "too many", for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author CyberSEO
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      These days, it'll probably get your site heavily penalized for "overoptimization" by Google's "Penguin update". This has already happened to large numbers of Warriors, and they've been told expressly and openly by Google that this is the reason.
      I'm sorry but the Penguin algo has nothing to do with site optimization and content quality That update was all about link SPAM.

      Panda (the another algo) doesn't really care about the content uniqueness. On the other hand, it does care a lot about your visitors' behavior. Thus the article writing and spinning services are not that useful anymore as they were before Panda.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by CyberSEO View Post

        I'm sorry but the Penguin algo has nothing to do with site optimization and content quality That update was all about link SPAM.
        No need to be sorry!

        That link SPAM you're referring to is exactly what I'm talking about: it covers mass automated submission to article directories. That IS webspam. Google has said so openly, and has also said so privately, by email, to people whose sites have been penalized for "overoptimization" after the Penguin update, because this is what they'd done. You can read some of those emails for yourself, if you have a look around online where people have commented on them (including in the SEO folder of this forum), if you wish.

        Originally Posted by CyberSEO View Post

        Thus the article writing and spinning services are not that useful as they were before Panda.
        Yes, that's certainly true. But it's only since "Penguin" that they've been actively and openly penalized.
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  • Profile picture of the author DougHoltOnline
    I use college interns, who need college credits, to write original copy to submit to content sites such as BlogHer, Ezines, etc. This has proven to be a great way for them to get writing experience, college credit, and learn a bit about IM. Oh, and getting the articles doesn't hurt our team either.

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  • Profile picture of the author enterprisemind
    Thanks to all who are contributing. I now have a more clear outlook on the 'effectiveness' of spinning and mass distributing articles. I will continue to just submit to my handful of high ranking article directories and contemplate using some Web2.0's.
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