Opt-in or no Opt-in for a promotional freebie

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I've written a 38 page eBook in a particular IM niche that I intend to give away for free as part of a promotion exercise for a related product that I'll sell. The eBook stands up on its own with only the odd reference to the product in it and a full ad on the back page.

My intention is to offer this eBook for free in return for an email address to build a list. However, posts here seem to suggest that using this method gets you a pile of poor quality email addresses and unresponsive subscribers which you pay dearly for as numbers grow.

With that in mind I'm considering offering the eBook for free with no opt-in to gets as much exposure as I can, sell the product and concentrate on building a buyers list of more responsive subscribers with a proven interested in my wares (I'm not yet interested in promoting everything and anything). Is this the better move?

And which is the best/prefered WF section to promote free eBooks?
#ebook #email marketing #freebie #freebies #list building #optin #promotional
  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    The only variable that separates a "poor quality lead" and a "high quality lead" is if they'll buy from you. And that is based upon your relationship with them, and whether or not they have a credit card. That's about it.

    I've paid good money for leads that have turned out crappy, and have gotten free leads that turned out to be gold.

    The truth is, it's hard to determine how each subscriber will turn out.

    I would absolutely use your book as opt-in bait. But you know what? Why not split test it with an option to download it without opting in, and promote your list from within the book?

    You could split test like crazy and have two separate lists; one where people opt in for the book, and one where people get it then opt in after. Sure, it's a lot more work, but it will answer yourself using the best data possible; your own.

    If you ask me, I would use it as opt in bait.

    But to play devil's advocate I could argue that if people opt in AFTER reading your content they'll be a more valuable subscriber, because your relationship will already be there.

    Just remember to treat people on your list with respect, regardless of how they end up there, and then everybody wins.
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  • Profile picture of the author jingrong
    Totally agree with Sarevok, you can sell your second book, third book, etc to your subscribers in future. Opt-in is necessary if you want to start your Internet business. Build rapport and build trust with them. Consumers only buy things when they trust on you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by pixelware View Post

    My intention is to offer this eBook for free in return for an email address to build a list.
    Well, there are certainly a few thousand (or a few tens of thousands of) people here building businesses that way.

    Originally Posted by pixelware View Post

    However, posts here seem to suggest that using this method gets you a pile of poor quality email addresses and unresponsive subscribers which you pay dearly for as numbers grow.
    That's what it gets you if that's what your traffic comprises, clearly.

    The people who opt in can only be a sub-group of the people who visit your page in the first place, can't they?

    Originally Posted by pixelware View Post

    With that in mind I'm considering offering the eBook for free with no opt-in to gets as much exposure as I can, sell the product and concentrate on building a buyers list of more responsive subscribers with a proven interested in my wares (I'm not yet interested in promoting everything and anything). Is this the better move?
    I don't quite see why they're alternatives? Can't you do that as well?

    Originally Posted by pixelware View Post

    And which is the best/prefered WF section to promote free eBooks?
    It's something you have to test for yourself, but it's going to depend very substantially on your traffic source.

    For me, it would make absolutely no sense at all to give away the freebie without asking for the opt-in, but that's because the lists of freebie-downloaders I build from my sites are hugely valuable, because the traffic's high quality in the first place - that's what it boils down to.

    Giving away the freebie without an opt-in will increase the number of people downloading it, but it certainly isn't going to improve their average quality . Like so many other IM issues, it's ultimately about whether an increase in quantity alone has any real value.
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    • Profile picture of the author Les Blythe
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


      For me, it would make absolutely no sense at all to give away the freebie without asking for the opt-in
      Have to agree with Alexa - WHY would you do that? Any credibility you might build will be there in any case - get the opt-in and build the list!
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  • Profile picture of the author WeavingThoughts
    Giving away a freebie without opt in is like giving away review copies without wanting them to leave a review.
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  • Profile picture of the author brentb
    Require Opt-In up front...

    All the quality people who would opt-in still on the back end of the download because they want more info.... STILL WILL.

    People who are interested, obviously because the download, even though they maybe aren't 100% interested in receiving your emails also will. I am sure at least some of these people will be valuable. No Doubt!

    Sure overall quality will be lower but so what? You will make more money... period.

    Its like saying, would you rather have a website that makes $500 a month in user subscriptions OR have a website that makes $500 a month in user subscriptions and $100 a month in ad revenue? Your low quality subscribers will not make you as much but they are worth having. And who says what you are doing will provide you with low quality subscribers? It doesn't have to. I agree with Alexa in that you should pay attention to your traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel B
    I suggest you to use your report as free WSO with a squeeze page to get leads.
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    • Profile picture of the author pixelware
      Thanks for the advice folks.

      I agree with with you Alexa that the quality of subscribers will depend a lot on the quality of the traffic to my web site / squeeze page - so an opt-in here, I now feel, is a no brainer.

      I guess I was thinking more along the lines of putting it up on IM and eBook sites to drum up some traffic. By offering it for free without an opt-in ought to result in more downloads but a sure fire way of attracting countless freebie seekers who download everything and anything and in many cases don't even read the stuff. Par for the course I guess.

      Trying both makes sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author locke815
    Indeed you need to have a quality lead.
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  • Profile picture of the author MKCookins
    As others have said it would be insane to give away that eBook with no opt in.

    They key to responsive subscribers is how you treat your list. If you treat them well by giving them free good quality content on a regular basis - and not try to sell something to them every day. They will see you are generally trying to help them and be more likely to buy your product when the time comes
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  • Profile picture of the author RichSerafini
    You do want to get the opt-in. If the product is good and you continue to provide value to the list, people will stay on your list and you can begin to build your business.
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    • Profile picture of the author SEOSteveO
      You should always have an opt-in so that you can collect names and emails so that you can market to them in the future as they will always be your future customers. But you shouldnt try to sell them everytime you email them. only 1 in every 5-7 emails should be a sales pitch to something, everything else should be free content thats valuable enough to have them keep opening up your emails
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
    Always use an opt-in if you are looking for exposure. You will have the opp to stay connected to your list and remind them who you are regularly. Unless you have a massive amount of money lined up for a huge traffic push. Otherwise you won't be getting into as many minds as you are hoping for.
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    • Profile picture of the author niles
      I was reading that it is better not to ask for the opt in upfront.

      So, I tried it. Unfortunately, very few people signed up.

      Therefore, I will always get the opt in upfront.
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  • Profile picture of the author howtogurus
    Seems to me that with no opt-in you have no way to follow up. So with an opt-in at least you can follow up. Good list or bad list, at least it is a list.
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    • Profile picture of the author PCH
      A freebie without an opt in is like leaving your wallet on the bar - it will just disappear and you'll never hear from them again

      Also, I'd feel inclined to not 'tell all' in the freebie. Always leave a part of the story untold so that future sales can 'reveal' the missing parts. I don't mean leave out great big obvious chumks, just selected pieces that will make a more complete story.

      To your success mate
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyler S
    Hey, I have split tested these theories before. It is always more beneficial to require an optin as your subscribers will most likely understand this.
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