Pulling Mad Cash From Conduit (review) Sites

by flnz400 24 replies
Anyone doing the above? I'm working my ass off trying to get my review sites rolling, but things are a bit stagnant.

I'm wondering if people outside of the War Room are having success (minor 1k/mo) with these methods?

This is my first attempt at entering affiliate marketing, and at this point, it seems I could be getting a better ROI on my time implementing other methods. I'm open to suggestions if you could spare a moment or two.

Here's part of what I've done thus far...

I set up a generic conduit site (generic review site that is not limited to a niche) and found some lucrative affiliate offers. One of which is Chris' suggestion about Market Health.

I found products that seemed to have a decent stake in the marketplace and did some keyword research. I refined that research into a list. From this list, I choose the highest yielding keywords to form my titles, tags, meta tags, and keywords. I use Wordpress, so all of these things apply.

Keywords are chosen from a "buying mood"..... buy (product), () review, best () for blah blah, fix (insert inherently urgent product solution here; IE desperate buyers), etc....

I banged out some reviews. I took deep links and found some relevant content on Yahoo Answers or wherever and answered a few questions I am knowledgeable about, with a link to my product as a solution.

I submitted my home url to directories. My rss feed is submitted to rss directories. Some Squidoo pages and blogs also import my rss feed. You can also assume that I set up some blogger blogs with content and static links, squidoo pages, hubpages, etc...(NAMED THE SAME AS MY PRODUCT REVIEW TITLES!!!!!!). My blogs are ALSO submitted to rss directories. Yes, some content gets spit out a couple times, it doesn't matter.

I'd be using Content Kahuna, but it doesn't work with a 64 bit OS.

Deep pages have been social bookmarked by hand, only a few times, and no sn submission software used, as of yet.

What have you done?

As I've said before, I'm only made two commissions valued at $55 total, and I drive on average 25-30 visitors per day for my "buying mood" keywords. The site I'm talking about has NO articles, content other than reviews, and utilizes no keywords other than what have been described.

These commissions happened very quickly and I have not had any since. I started out with a 1:3 ratio, and now I'm well over 1:100. Traffic has increased, but conversion have not. My predictions are that it has to do with my rank placement in the serp's. I'll have to go back through each longtail that I'm trying to rank for and see if they are slipping. I'm sure others are targeting the exact same products as I am, so perhaps "review saturation" is happening with the products I chose.

Thank you for having a look and for any input! Much appreciated!
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  • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
    I get 5-10% conversion for most of my conduit/review sites, however I've tried Market Health before and found the conversions to be less than 1% (for the same type of sites). I don't know why that is but Market Health doesn't do that well for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Hoey
        The question is, where is your individual pages ranking for the chosen keyword?

        If your keyword is something like ""buy xxxxx online" and it is searched 2,000 times a day and you are rank 1 it goes without saying you would probably make "mad cash".

        Your success really does come down to this i'm sure.
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        • Profile picture of the author OnlineMasterMind
          what % of your visitors actually proceed to visit the products?

          if that number is low... the issue could be your copy
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          • Profile picture of the author flnz400
            Originally Posted by OnlineMasterMind View Post

            what % of your visitors actually proceed to visit the products?

            if that number is low... the issue could be your copy
            I'd tend to agree.

            I started out with 1:3 commission rate, but now over 100. My CTR is anywhere from 1:15 to 1:50.

            I was trying the "conduit" method or reporting, so I'm not really selling or pushing products. If something is decent, I encourage and link to a top rated product or whatever.
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        • Profile picture of the author flnz400
          Originally Posted by Matt Hoey View Post

          The question is, where is your individual pages ranking for the chosen keyword?

          If your keyword is something like ""buy xxxxx online" and it is searched 2,000 times a day and you are rank 1 it goes without saying you would probably make "mad cash".

          Your success really does come down to this i'm sure.
          Agreed. BUT, for certain keywords, people won't find the review format they're looking for, so they will dig a bit deeper.

          To answer your question, I have a few terms in 3rd, but most are 5th through 7th.



          The only reason I don't like my results is because my content is pulling visitors, but I'm leaving money on the table. I think if I switch gears a bit and do a review type newsletter and get them on a mailing, I'll be more satisfied.
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          • Profile picture of the author Matt Hoey
            It's all a test and evolve process. I don't think we can blame the conduit method. what i think is we should help each other and discover how to make the best of what we have. I'd be happy to JV with you on some thigns if you want.

            To be brief my back is against the wall with living situations at the moment and i wouldn't mind exchanging ideas with someone over this method. I'm hammering articles and techniques right nwo to get my pages ranked under good buyers keywords.

            If it's not working, let's make it work?
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            • Profile picture of the author flnz400
              Yeah, I've been saying that the whole time in the War Room thread.

              You should be able to get ranked overnight as long as your url is indexed already. That was the easiest part to me. I haven't written a single article and pull first page results for 20k + competing for (blah blah product) "review", "buy", etc...
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                Does the appearance of the site have an effect on the conversion rate?

                As I understand it, the point of the conduit site is that you have someone already looking to buy, but looking for affirmation that they are making a good purchase.

                If your site looks sales-y, might that not break that frame of mind? In other words, they want to buy, they've perhaps already decided to buy, and now what they are looking for is some sort of validation of that decision. So, they look to the review as an affirmation that they've made a good decision. From there, they make their purchase.

                But, if the review site looks like it's pushing them to buy, doesn't that push them back into the original decision-making process? So, instead of looking for affirmation of their decision to buy, they have reverted back to deciding whether or not to buy. Rather than push them toward the sale, you've pushed them toward indecision.

                If the review site looks like an actual review site or informational site with reviews, wouldn't that keep them in the original frame of mind? They have decided to buy and now want the affirmation. By looking like an actual information website, you are keeping them in that info-hunt/affirmation-search frame of mind. You're not giving them reason to reconsider their purchase. Instead, you're maintaining their purchase decision and providing them with the affirmation they are looking for before finalizing their purchase.

                At least, that's my theory anyway, and one which I'm currently testing.
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                • Profile picture of the author flnz400
                  Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                  Does the appearance of the site have an effect on the conversion rate?

                  As I understand it, the point of the conduit site is that you have someone already looking to buy, but looking for affirmation that they are making a good purchase.

                  If your site looks sales-y, might that not break that frame of mind? In other words, they want to buy, they've perhaps already decided to buy, and now what they are looking for is some sort of validation of that decision. So, they look to the review as an affirmation that they've made a good decision. From there, they make their purchase.

                  But, if the review site looks like it's pushing them to buy, doesn't that push them back into the original decision-making process? So, instead of looking for affirmation of their decision to buy, they have reverted back to deciding whether or not to buy. Rather than push them toward the sale, you've pushed them toward indecision.

                  If the review site looks like an actual review site or informational site with reviews, wouldn't that keep them in the original frame of mind? They have decided to buy and now want the affirmation. By looking like an actual information website, you are keeping them in that info-hunt/affirmation-search frame of mind. You're not giving them reason to reconsider their purchase. Instead, you're maintaining their purchase decision and providing them with the affirmation they are looking for before finalizing their purchase.

                  At least, that's my theory anyway, and one which I'm currently testing.
                  My thoughts or interpretation of the "conduit" method precisely. But, I haven't had much success being, "gentle", I guess you could call it. Reporter style.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Matt Hoey
                    Cosmokid, i created an RSS feed for ym website but i'm unsure as to how it can be used other than for people to bookmark me through it. Can you tell me how it "pings"? I know you can sumbit blogs to be pinged but what about websites? how can i be indexed just as fast? I'm very interested in some of the techniques you're talking about.

                    You can view my website in my sig if you would be so kind as to give me additional feedback? thanks
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                    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
                      'The Conduit Method' - Is that what people are calling marketing with review sites now?

                      Niche marketing with review sites has been a standard IM strategy for years and has always worked well if done effectively.

                      Why do people need to rename things in order to get people to do it?

                      I've heard of re purposing something old, but renaming it seems to get people interested too. I might try it.
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                      • Profile picture of the author LB
                        Why do people need to rename things in order to get people to do it?
                        That's called "marketing".


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                        • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
                          Originally Posted by LB View Post

                          That's called "marketing".


                          Aah - thanks.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Art Turner
                        Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

                        'The Conduit Method' - Is that what people are calling marketing with review sites now?
                        A conduit site is not a review site. It is more balanced and low key.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
                          Originally Posted by Art Turner View Post

                          A conduit site is not a review site. It is more balanced and low key.
                          Apologies, I got the impression from the title of the thread. I guess I assumed that it just meant using standard niche siloing techniques with the focus of the content being reviews rather than normal LSI keyword focused articles.

                          Reviews have always worked well so it would make sense to keep them in the mix, so my bad, guessed wrong.

                          Usually when people are focused on one strategy and talking about it like it's a business in it's own right, they've been unsuccessful with the normal terms and strategies and this is just the next thing they're trying because they're hoping that because it's framed as being different, their success will change.

                          If it's a more robust model than just driving traffic to what effectively end up being review-based niche sites in the old mini-net way then it probably merits more attention that I've given it. Not that I'm interested in doing it, but so that I know what you're all talking about when it keeps coming up in the forum.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Art Turner
                            Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

                            Apologies, I got the impression from the title of the thread. I guess I assumed that it just meant using standard niche siloing techniques with the focus of the content being reviews rather than normal LSI keyword focused articles.
                            No problem of course. I think the main distinction separating conduit sites from review sites is instead of an effort to sell the prospect on a solution, you just essentially give them a slap on the backside as they head toward something they already wanted...purchasing through your link. More than just the top three products are included and negative reviews are sprinkled in for good measure.

                            That's my understanding of it anyway. I've given it a rather half-hearted effort and haven't seen the success that others report.

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                            • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
                              Thanks.

                              Maybe I read a lot of that into things.

                              Review sites tend to be focused on interrupting the sales process of someone who is looking to buy and answering the questions they had (so using multiple products and testimonials - good and bad) is the normal way to use them as an affiliate commission IM strategy. It's worked well for me, so I assumed that was probably the focus.

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              • Profile picture of the author Jeannie Crabtree
                I wrote 5 review pages recently for a site I have had a couple years. It all ready had some articles and about 170 backlinks. It took three weeks for the pages to show up in google for me to get natural searches. So It can depend.

                I sold one ebook at about 18 visitors doing a click through. It is now at about 100 visitors for that one page, so hoping I make another sale soon. This is not for a large niche, but one that gets about 500 on related searches a day, from what I can figure.

                "You should be able to get ranked overnight as long as your url is indexed already" - *It is going to depend*. Some will, some won't.

                My site has room for improvement. I decided to get more backlinks, bookmarks and write a few more article for the article directories for that siteand get the articles backlinked before I move on to do another reveiw site.


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                Originally Posted by flnz400 View Post

                Yeah, I've been saying that the whole time in the War Room thread.

                You should be able to get ranked overnight as long as your url is indexed already. That was the easiest part to me. I haven't written a single article and pull first page results for 20k + competing for (blah blah product) "review", "buy", etc...
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                • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                  Hi Andy,

                  If you go to the war room and read Chris Rempel's popular thread you'll get the picture - review site's with a little twist.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Seattle Mike
                    Just starting to build a few conduit sites. Appreciate the report on Market Health, I can skip that for now.

                    I did try the conduit style on 25 squidoo lens, I think there are too many alternative places for them to click on lens for it to work well there. Pretty good traffic even some clicks but no buyers yet.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
                    Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

                    Hi Andy,

                    If you go to the war room and read Chris Rempel's popular thread you'll get the picture - review site's with a little twist.
                    Aah ok - it's in the War room is it. thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Neil S
      Originally Posted by Hamida Pall View Post

      I get 5-10% conversion for most of my conduit/review sites, however I've tried Market Health before and found the conversions to be less than 1% (for the same type of sites). I don't know why that is but Market Health doesn't do that well for me.
      Wow that is an incredible conversion rate. Right now I convert about 1% or less and make decent money. Can you share a little specifics about how you got your site to convert so well?
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