Another scammer has resurfaced on the forum

by Bev Clement 69 replies
This person scammed a number of warriors out of money by offering a service which they never got. They also tried to sell a report that they had bought rights to and stole the sales page from another warrior. The even bought the .net of the good warrior to make it look like their report.

Now the person is back with a new name. They have been asked if they are the scammer on their wso and they claim they are not because they were mentored by the scammer.

Here are some facts which I was given today.

The person is selling an almost similar report to the scammer.

The person domain name is exactly the same as the scammers business name.

The person's name is the same as the scammers paypal name.

The person is selling a report which is copyrighted with the scammers name.

The person domain name is owned by the scammer.

Anyone who was scammed by Adam Whitaker, he is back on the forum, and those who have outed him in the WSO are 100% correct or the new person is running WSO which he isn't allowed to do.

Thanks to the person who told me about this, and thanks to a good friend who told me about the copyright on the report.

Bev
#main internet marketing discussion forum #forum #resurfaced #scammer
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  • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
    Hey Bev...

    You are missing your calling

    You should be a member with the United
    Nations

    as their undercover Warrior!!!:p

    Thanks for the info

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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    Bev, I think you need to consider a career change to Internet marketing
    detective.

    Your business model is simple.

    You investigate other marketers for marketers who want to be sure that
    they're dealing with somebody who is reputable.

    You charge a fee for this based on the amount of work you have to do to
    get the info.

    I wonder if anybody actually does this. I think it could be a lucrative business
    model.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Hi Bev,

    I see your PI skills are getting better and better these days.

    It is good of you to share this information with all of us, so thanks!

    Unfortunately, many times people who have scammed others using the WSO section, and get caught, eventually make their way back into the forum to try it again. I can come up with a few, like this guy.

    BUT, they keep getting flushed out by people like you, your sources, etc ...

    One of these days they'll learn.


    Mary
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      • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
        TopGun I saw that you knew they were back.

        Not sure anyone would want to pay for this service though Steven
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Chris
          I posted to the guy's WSO with a PayPal screenshot from when I got ripped off by "Adam Whitaker"... his name (Matt West) is all over my payment.

          I wonder how he could justify that.

          http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...html#post61451

          If there is anyone really looking for press release info or more info on the Adam Whitaker rip-off, then check out the following thread where I posted some evidence of image theft against Adam Whitaker:

          http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...html#post61463

          There are 2 awesome free resources there where I link off to the original creator of the rankings screenshot that was ripped off in Adam's ebook. He claims the rankings as his own, but they are really Christine O'Kelly's as verified by my email conversation with her.

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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            Funny Bev - I flagged this as suspicious but though I was being overly suspicious.

            Gotta wonder why someone would be so quick to jump in and recommend purchase of this WSO. These days, it's a good idea to vet the person running the WSO before supporting them. Sad, but true.

            I know this method works from what I've heard from others.
            What method? Scamming members here?

            Let's see how long this one remains open.

            kay
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            • Profile picture of the author PRandContent
              I'm dying to know who this Whitaker is and how the hell he can fathom scamming people!
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              • Originally Posted by PRandContent View Post

                I'm dying to know who this Whitaker is and how the hell he can fathom scamming people!
                That's exactly what I was thinking.
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                • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
                  Wow Bev,

                  I cannot believe how good of a detective you are. It seems like you are always catching people doing the nasty things. That is awesome.

                  If we just had a couple more people like you on the Internet I think we would all be much happier people.

                  It seems like every day I'm catching people trying to steal something.

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            • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
              Kay, I couldnt believe some of the people who have recommended it either
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              • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
                You know what's kind of awesome? These people are so damn lazy they make it really easy to catch them. Not mentioning any other names like cough cough Danny Wall Jordyn cough sorry needed to clear my throat.
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                • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                  oops! He's n/a - now that was some quick action by the powers behind the scenes!
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                  • Profile picture of the author John Hillage
                    Well done for letting everyone know. It can be such a minefield knowing who you can and can't trust; especially for newbies.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Michael Chris
                      Matt J West does not seem n/a yet.

                      I think that was just some other poor soul posting to his thread.

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                      • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
                        It turns out there is an off forum place that lists these creeps.

                        Name N Shame Wall| New Name N Shame Wall Bolg here to help people name individuals or companies who shammed and scammed them out of money, property, or intellectual property.

                        Is that ok to mention? I think its a great idea.

                        There is always danger in a "witch hunt" that an innocent person will be slammed because of a misunderstanding. Heaven knows most marketers have customers that call them a "scam" no matter how hard they try to please people. Who here has not been called a scam artist, rip off, trash vendor, etc?

                        Still, when someone is clearly ripping people off they should be exposed. That principal is alive and well in the real world with the sex offender registry. In that case however people were tried and convicted before posting. If I knew of a sex offender that wasn't convicted, but is still a danger in my opinion, would I warn my nieghbor? You bet I would.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
                          Great stuff Bev. Really don't need these people on here or online as it just gives everyone a bad name.

                          Rich
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                        • Profile picture of the author Paul Buckley
                          Hmmm...I just did an "interview" for this guy. Fortunately, I didn't give him any specifics as to my sites but now I wonder what he's going to attach my name to.

                          One of the questions he asked:

                          "What do you consider to be your greatest achievement in internet marketig"

                          My answer: The respect of my peers.
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                        • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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                          [quote=Scott Ames;61774]It turns out there is an off forum place that lists these creeps.

                          There's still quite a few additions needed.
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                        • Profile picture of the author emini_guy
                          Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

                          Heaven knows most marketers have customers that call them a "scam" no matter how hard they try to please people. Who here has not been called a scam artist, rip off, trash vendor, etc?

                          Oh, come on. You have customers you deserve. It's as simple as that. There is always 2-5% of people who are hard to please, but this is a fringe that does not count. I would not worry about that. If you have more than that, more than 5%, I think you have a problem. And it's not the customers.
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                          • Profile picture of the author LegitIncomes
                            They also tried to sell a report that they had bought rights to and stole the sales page from another warrior. The even bought the .net of the good warrior to make it look like their report.
                            THAT WAS MY WSO Adam was trying to sell as his own! And he also registered the .net of my domain.

                            THANK YOU BEV! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THIS!
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                          • Profile picture of the author Noel2010
                            I bought that PR report for $17. I checked the keyword example on Google and got that same image from a site that has been around awhile. I asked for a refund in the old forum and also through email but no answer.
                            I should have mentioned that to my fellow warriors at that time.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
                              I was starting to think that guy was not on the up-and-up....so I decided not to order.
                              Especially when he said he was "being mentored by Adam Whitaker" - how stupid!

                              Thanks you Bev.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
                                How do you guys get continually ripped off in the WSO section?

                                Seriously?

                                I'm baffled.

                                Why not just buy from those you KNOW, LIKE, and TRUST!

                                What a concept!
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                                • Profile picture of the author Michael Chris
                                  Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt View Post

                                  How do you guys get continually ripped off in the WSO section?

                                  Seriously?

                                  I'm baffled.

                                  Why not just buy from those you KNOW, LIKE, and TRUST!

                                  What a concept!
                                  Well, I guess we are not all as perfect as you, Mr. Moffatt. Most of us are only human.

                                  By the way, what if you run a WSO? Should I buy from you even though I only trust you will deliver a half decent product?

                                  -Michael

                                  PS Not sure where you got the impression in this thread that anyone is getting "continually ripped off", but again, I guess I just can't understand all things being just a lowly human. Some day I hope to be as perfect as you and shine with the light of sun as you do.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
                                    Jason, I haven't been ripped off, because I didn't buy from this scammer, Alison G, Steve Garrett, Richard Earl just to name a few.

                                    The reason for the post was to warn people and help those who don't know how to check for scammers to learn how to do their due dilligence.
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                                    • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
                                      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

                                      Jason, I haven't been ripped off, because
                                      I didn't buy from this scammer, Alison G, Steve Garrett, Richard
                                      Earl just to name a few.

                                      The reason for the post was to warn people and help those who
                                      don't know how to check for scammers to learn how to do their
                                      due dilligence.

                                      Hey Bev,

                                      You're a STAR!!!!!

                                      Thanks for looking out for our backs....we really appreciate
                                      it.

                                      One a week....not a bad success rate....watch out all you would
                                      be scammers.....Bev is on the prowl....

                                      Regards

                                      Greg
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                                      • Profile picture of the author mistyone
                                        Hi Bev

                                        The spirit of the forum lives on through people such as yourself and we are all the richer for your presence.

                                        I was one of the silly ones who thought he was honest and trustworthy and parted with $59USD.

                                        I only found out about this thread through a round about course. I received a request to be a members friend and on investigating this member, to find out who this person was wanting to befriend me, I followed up a post he had made on your thread here, as I recognised the name of Adam Whitaker and the word SCAM and so here I am adding my bit

                                        He is one of a few reasons I have been trying to stay away from the forum in the last week because I was spending too much money on WSO's and in the case of the money I lost to Adam Whitaker that was the largest amount I had spent and lost. I have however been scammed much larger amounts as well but from off other forums. So to have people like Bev and other sharp, on the ball members to look out for us, is great

                                        I have taken to PM members in threads, where I can see they have made a purchase of a WSO, to ask them their opinion because I am now very cautious especially when I see so many testimonials, like on a sales page of some of those hot shot marketers,the ones with cars and money littered all over them and the testimonials go on for hours, that it starts to ring alarm bells. I got one tip off from a member from doing this, that saved me from wasting my money, so I will continue to make this sort of investigation as part of my 'due diligence'.

                                        If I had been browsing the WSO's I might have seen his thread and felt it was familiar but I certainly wouldn't fall for it again because it has taught me a valuable lesson. Make sure there is someone who has made a purchase and if they are satisfied, they are the best form of checking you can have.

                                        Cheers
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                                    • Profile picture of the author TKO
                                      It might be time for the "Wall of Shame". These people should be listed and exposed for the scum that they are. Good work Bev.
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                                    ...is there a new cyber business in the making here?
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
                                    Hi Bev. This is awesome.

                                    I didn't think this sort of thing was allowed ('bashing' other 'Warriors') and I say it is high time that it is fine to warn people.

                                    Yes, there is that chance that someone may be unfairly judged due to an innocent error, but when it is a whole group of victims, well, 'where there is smoke there is fire'.

                                    I know you and I discussed another scammer who got away with thousands of Warrior dollars and who is now back with an alias.

                                    I tried very hard to get someone to N/A the alias, but got no response and now I am very nervous because even without WSO, just the signature may lead to another loss for some unwary soul(s).

                                    However, at least some of us know who she is and can warn individual people privately not to trust her. (don't forget) ...and for those of you who don't know, this rip off was in the thousands of dollars per person in some cases and many more serious implications than money.

                                    Besides if she got N/A'd, what is to stop her from coming back yet again with yet another alias that we don't know.

                                    So anyway, thanks for the good IPI work (internet private investigator) and sticking your neck out for the greater good! You rock.

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                                • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
                                  Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt View Post

                                  How do you guys get continually ripped off in the WSO section?

                                  Seriously?

                                  I'm baffled.

                                  Why not just buy from those you KNOW, LIKE, and TRUST!

                                  What a concept!
                                  Everyone has to start somewhere, i am sure when you 1st started no one knew who you were, so where would you be now if no one had trusted you and didn't buy anything from you?

                                  I think your sweeping statement is very silly
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                                  • Profile picture of the author LegitIncomes
                                    Originally Posted by SpudDS View Post

                                    Everyone has to start somewhere, i am sure when you 1st started no one knew who you were, so where would you be now if no one had trusted you and didn't buy anything from you?

                                    I think your sweeping statement is very silly
                                    I agree, very silly. We all start somewhere.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
                                    Originally Posted by SpudDS View Post

                                    Everyone has to start somewhere, i am sure when you 1st started no one knew who you were, so where would you be now if no one had trusted you and didn't buy anything from you?

                                    I think your sweeping statement is very silly
                                    I don't think it's silly to suggest people buy from those they KNOW, LIKE, and TRUST. What I would consider silly is buying something from somebody when you have no idea who they are just because they say they're making $200/day or whatever. AT A MINIMUM, it's your job as a consumer to do your own due dilligence.

                                    That said, people's greed will continue to cloud their better judgement. So in that regard, I couldn't agree more that it's a blessing to have people such as Bev looking out for the well being of fellow Warriors. Because getting scammed sucks and it's bad for all Warriors when it happens here.
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                      • Originally Posted by Michael Chris View Post

                        Matt J West does not seem n/a yet.

                        I think that was just some other poor soul posting to his thread.

                        -Michael
                        Yeah, that was weird. I didn't see this WSO or anything, but when this person first came to the forum, I posted a "hello" to him, asking him if he was the same person as a famous Contemporary Christian musician, whose music I love. He had the same, exact name as the Christian artist. Never got any kind of answer to that at all, which I thought was kind of odd. :confused: As a matter of fact, he never again came back to the thread, which he had started.

                        That was on the old forum. On this forum, he uses a variation of the name from the old forum.
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        • Profile picture of the author wasbee
          Hi Bev,thanks for the info.,you sounds like an undercover agent.From now on you our Warrior undercover agent.
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        • Profile picture of the author bizlady08
          Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

          TopGun I saw that you knew they were back.

          Not sure anyone would want to pay for this service though Steven
          You never know. As a newbie, it's a challenge to separate the grain from the chaff, sometimes. Thanks for the heads-up.
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          • Profile picture of the author emini_guy
            Thanks, Bev.

            Good job, but actually I got a very prompt refund from this fellow for something that I found to be rather basic. Too basic for me. Within literally minutes of my request. Just a few days ago.

            But I am not trying to say that this denies what you say. Just my recent personal experience.

            On the other hand, yesterday I filed a dispute with my CC company for some sham mentoring service and today I filed a dispute with Paypal. So yes, there are people in the WSO forum you are better off avoiding.
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        • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
          Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

          TopGun I saw that you knew they were back.

          Not sure anyone would want to pay for this service though Steven
          Now, who in their right mind wouldn't pay for a good private investigator?
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

            Now, who in their right mind wouldn't pay for a good private investigator?
            I was going to say the same thing. People hire PIs all the time, and for some
            of the stupidest things too.

            Honestly, the only way to find out if there is a market for this is do a survey.
            Do the market research and see what you get back.

            I've seen crazier services offered online so who knows?
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    wow, thats not good... must practice precaution
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    Gosh.. I always wished we had a private forum to discuss this kind of stuff where we could name names. I know moderators do and I don't know how one would decide who gets in there, but it would be nice to know who to avoid.
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  • Thank's for informing me.

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    • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
      Bev,

      You did it again. I'm hoping you keep busting these guys.

      Hey Warriors what if we sent Bev a few bucks for taking the time to track this guy. This is not the first time she has saved a bunch of people good money. Bev give us a button to send you a little thank you.

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  • Profile picture of the author wizzie
    Thanks for the heads-up Bev
    Very appreciated
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
      Thanks Bev, your announcement helps avoid to suffer losses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richie V
    thanks for the tip. im new so this person and situation is of course new to me too but there is always someone somewhere that screws it up for everyone else.

    carma will kick him in the ass in due time. with the way the net is spead across the world it will only be a short while before everyone around the world knows who and what he is... bad news ALWAYS spreads quicker than good news!
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  • Profile picture of the author Solidsnake
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    Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

    This person scammed a number of warriors out of money by offering a service which they never got. They also tried to sell a report that they had bought rights to and stole the sales page from another warrior. The even bought the .net of the good warrior to make it look like their report.

    Now the person is back with a new name. They have been asked if they are the scammer on their wso and they claim they are not because they were mentored by the scammer.

    Here are some facts which I was given today.

    The person is selling an almost similar report to the scammer.

    The person domain name is exactly the same as the scammers business name.

    The person's name is the same as the scammers paypal name.

    The person is selling a report which is copyrighted with the scammers name.

    The person domain name is owned by the scammer.

    Anyone who was scammed by Adam Whitaker, he is back on the forum, and those who have outed him in the WSO are 100% correct or the new person is running WSO which he isn't allowed to do.

    Thanks to the person who told me about this, and thanks to a good friend who told me about the copyright on the report.

    Bev
    Why don't ask admins to ban him/her if we have enough proof?
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    • Profile picture of the author nursehoney
      I took a quick peek at the Name em and Shame em Wall in the earlier post and I think it's long overdue. I hope it won't be abused by folks out for revenge or to bad mouth their competition, but I've long said honest, unsuspecting people who trust the people they're handing over money to deserve to know if the 'vendor' has already fleeced others.

      Yes, it's wise to buy from those you "know, like and trust", but there's lotsa new folks coming online every day who don't know anybody, never mind liking and trusting them.

      I say as long as you have facts to back it up (like Bev did) the offender's name should be spread virally...as far and as fast as possible!
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    Please stop resurrecting dead threads...
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Thanks Bev.

    Quick question. It has been pointed out that you may be a member of the CIA...does that stand for Cymru Intelligence Agency?



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    • Profile picture of the author Marie Pugh
      The strange thing is - this is an old thread that has been resurrected BUT I just read the first line of the post about the person posting in all WSOs. So, I went and looked and there actually is someone doing that!

      Weird....I hadn't looked at the date of the post at first or I wouldn't have even gone to look - but there is someone who is posting in WSO threads that they are scams. I don't think they are even reading them, because one was in a woman's WSO and they posted that HE scammed them.

      Not sure what the chances of that happening are.....

      Marie

      EDIT: OK, it was the other post I saw by Bev that had the warning about the spammer on the WSO's - so you can ignore this post! At least now I don't feel like I have entered some kind of time warp!! I just didn't check which thread I had originally read
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  • Profile picture of the author Noah Fleming
    I thought for sure this was about Danny/Jordan :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author reality3
    Adam Whitaker is a want to be con artist. He has plagiarized a number of publications in order to make himself seem more educated in the marketing field. In reality Adam is a fraud. Upon getting ripped of by this so called marketing whiz I have been made aware of some great information I would love to share.
    Adam is a college drop out who steals other people’s publications in an effort to launch his generic marketing company. He has never had a client in the 2 years he has “run” his business. He brags about ripping of the unknowing and “stupid” consumer. I would highly advice you contact Adam directly as he has ripped you off and those were his intentions to begin with. Below is some contact information so that the people that have been conned by this person may retrieve restitution. I wish you the best of luck.


    Home Address:

    12584 Charing Cross Rd
    Carmel, IN 46033

    Cell: 317-517-5902

    Fraud company web address:

    ircampaign.net
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    That's why we love Bevvers. She outs those scammers and helps protect everyone here from getting ripped off. I think she scared off Danny/Richard/Jordyn/Mark for good LOL.
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