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Hi, im looking for a free alternative to UAW,basically something to do mass article submissions to my web properties that link back to my site.Any good names?
#alternative #free #uaw
  • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
    Don't think you will find a free alternative unfortunately.

    You can get some pretty cheap article submitter software for a one off fee but in my experience they don't work nearly as well as UAW.

    In theory you can submit your content manually to article directories but that will take you a lot of time.
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    • Profile picture of the author pampoen
      My next question.does UAW still work?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by pampoen View Post

        My next question.does UAW still work?
        According to some members, it seems still to work well enough to get your site heavily penalized by Google for doing mass, automated article directory submissions. So might Article Marketing Robot, I suspect. And probably many similar types of software, and all the "backlinking services" which depend on them for their execution.

        Google's "Penguin Update" earlier this year was mostly about exactly this sort of "overoptimization penalty" for mass backlinks on non-context-relevant-sites.

        Take a look in the SEO Forum here. You'll find plenty of threads started off by people whose sites have been penalized, and many of them have been openly told by Google that that was the reason.

        Something to keep well away from!

        This thread might help you? http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ing-robot.html
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          According to some members, it seems still to work well enough to get your site heavily penalized by Google for doing mass, automated article directory submissions. So might Article Marketing Robot, I suspect. And probably many similar types of software, and all the "backlinking services" which depend on them for their execution.

          Google's "Penguin Update" earlier this year was mostly about exactly this sort of "overoptimization penalty" for mass backlinks on non-context-relevant-sites.

          Take a look in the SEO Forum here. You'll find plenty of threads started off by people whose sites have been penalized, and many of them have been openly told by Google that that was the reason.

          Something to keep well away from!

          This thread might help you? http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ing-robot.html
          Google tell you to keep away from a lot of things Alexa ! I wouldn't take a look in the SEO forums here as proof either as there are very few experts with case studies posting in there. Most people are asking if stuff works !

          The only way you can tell if UAW ( or any other service ) works is simply to test it for yourself. How many articles have you submitted with UAW Alexa ? I have some sites ranking well with UAW and others not. I am not recommending it one way or another but it's just too simple to say something doesn't work.

          I also used an article submission software that didn't produce any decent results at all. Does that software work ? Not for me but others are doing well with it so I can't say that the software doesn't work well. It just doesn't work well for me .
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by Kevin McNally View Post

            I wouldn't take a look in the SEO forums here as proof either as there are very few experts with case studies posting in there.
            Yes, I'm sure that's right. I was thinking of the threads I've seen there in which people have pasted in their emails from Google telling them openly that their sites have been penalized for these type of backlinks. Just for any skeptics who want to see some real evidence of the obvious ...

            Originally Posted by Kevin McNally View Post

            How many articles have you submitted with UAW Alexa ?
            About "none". And I won't be starting any time soon, seeing what Google has to say about it, and how openly they're penalizing such backlinks. I entirely take your point that your own experience is always more reliable, but in the circumstances of those backlinks not having had any real value for so long, anyway, on this occasion I'm willing to be satisfied on this point by other people's experiences ...

            Even I'm not quite so much of a skepchick that I imagine they've confabulated all those reply emails from Google telling them exactly why they were stuffed.

            It's one of those occasions when second-hand information will actually do nicely, for me.
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        • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          According to some members, it seems still to work well enough to get your site heavily penalized by Google for doing mass, automated article directory submissions.
          Haha this is too funny... i wouldnt use an article submission software if my life depended on it. Stick to writing and submitting to the top 3 article directories - if you still want to submit to article directories.
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      • Profile picture of the author Larry Leggett
        Originally Posted by pampoen View Post

        My next question.does UAW still work?
        Personally I do not think it works anymore.
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        Originally Posted by pampoen View Post

        My next question.does UAW still work?
        I use to outsource this, but after a few google blips and punishments, I moved away, and not synicate high quality content to places that have high quality traffic and eyeball interested in my offers. Go that way, article directory spamming will not really work for you these days.

        alexa has awesome stuff on this, go read her stared posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
    I would stay far away from UAW and all of the spammy ways of building links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
    For sure people have been penalized using UAW and many other things.

    Also there is a guy who made over 1 million dollars last year and one of his link building tools was UAW ( Wasn't me unfortunately ! ), you can google it. Of course it was just one of his tools and many other tactics were probably used.
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    • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
      I don't want to get into the whole "does it work" debate. I totally agree that one should always test for yourself and draw your own conclusions. Also keep in mind that if you are using it just like everyone ELSE is using it, there very well might be problems.

      That said, if I can hurt my own site with UAW, then why couldn't I hurt a competitors site with it? (hypothetically speaking, of course).

      We have to be careful with what "Google says", ya know?

      Just my 2 cents =)

      Jennifer
      ~PotPieGirl
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      • Profile picture of the author Simiv68
        Originally Posted by PotPieGirl View Post

        That said, if I can hurt my own site with UAW, then why couldn't I hurt a competitors site with it? (hypothetically speaking, of course).

        We have to be careful with what "Google says", ya know?
        Very good points.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by PotPieGirl View Post

        if I can hurt my own site with UAW, then why couldn't I hurt a competitors site with it? (hypothetically speaking, of course).
        Exactly so. This potential for "negative SEO" was exactly what caused all the furore after the Penguin update, wasn't it? And was why Google introduced the whole "link disavowal" business?

        Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: A new tool to disavow links
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        • Profile picture of the author pampoen
          Just a little back on point again, In line with Pat Flynns guide to setting up a niche site.He had a method which makes really good reading actually.Anyway he would setup little web properties and articles which directed back to his site, maybe one a day he would build, as he built he would setup UAW and blast these little properties which would boost his main site. Thats what im trying to achieve here.My sites need boosting, i suppose if i worked on them and built each one up without UAW than i might see results eventually but i don't really have 9 months.So i guess the question i'm asking is, is there a better way of doing this? I have used UAW but i am trying to keep away from anything that looks remotely spammy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ettienne
    I've never tried UAW myself, but as with any automated SEO tool, it's all about how you use it. If you get greedy, aka "too excited", it can be disastrous for your rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author pampoen
      Originally Posted by Ettienne View Post

      I've never tried UAW myself, but as with any automated SEO tool, it's all about how you use it. If you get greedy, aka "too excited", it can be disastrous for your rankings.

      Some sage advice from a fellow ZA, Shot bru!
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  • Profile picture of the author cowloc
    I tried free article submitter and no results, still looking for something that works.
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  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    Originally Posted by pampoen View Post

    Hi, im looking for a free alternative to UAW,basically something to do mass article submissions to my web properties that link back to my site.Any good names?
    If they are all your web properties you could publish the original on one blog and then feed the rest of the network via RSS. There's a plugin call RSStopost that may be of use. WordPress › RSS to Post « WordPress Plugins
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