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Now that marijuana is legal in Colorado and Washington here's an interesting BBC article, part of which deals with how to market the stuff.

BBC News - Marijuana legalisation in the US: Five burning questions

Will we start seeing threads like this:

What are the best marijuana keywords?

Colorado Pot | Colorado Pot
sold for $50,000!

Best marijuana subniches?


Can you sell marijuana on Amazon?


Martin
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    LOL

    I knew it was just a matter of time....

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  • Profile picture of the author Ettienne
    Probably. But selling to those states if you're in a country/state where it's illegal is not very wise (just in case some members start getting ideas).

    Hehe, but hey, great for Colorado and Washington! I've seen more than a few happy marketers on Facebook when the news broke.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    I'd also be concerned about shipping across state lines.

    Unless you are a grower in the target state, you might get burned acquiring or shipping product.
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      I'm expecting a few new products about how to geotarget ads to those 2 states.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dale_Anthony
    Move fast...it will become saturated quickly

    I know somebody who got there medical marijuana card in michigan and when he first got it he couldn't find a "caregiver" anywhere.

    Now three years later he's got eight people calling him a day asking to purchase some meds. With competition comes price drops
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicholas H
    I'm actually In WA and have my medical card. Guess I don't need It anymore? :p

    But I have "sparked" up a few Ideas of how to make some Income from this whole situation. Still In the works though, and have a few sub niches I think I can make happen.

    Can you sell marijuana on Amazon?
    haha!

    EDIT: By "Ideas" I don't mean I'm going to sell It myself, still Illegal In Federal law, so I will let others risk that :p
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    Well that's easy...start a Youtube channel called: "Smokin' That Hash w/ 'Your Full Name' "

    It will do great!
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    DAMN IT! I thought I was the only one!

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    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
      They are selling seeds all over the place. Maybe you can make an info product about how to grow it,trim it, etc for self consumption?

      It is also interesting that different strains (was that the name?) have different effects. Some are sedative and some are not.

      I got interested in the concept from the natural health side (Phoenix Tears ), but you need tons of it to make essential oil.

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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
    Sandra is spot on. Growing is illegal but teaching people how isn't and then you can sell bongs, vaporizers, shirts all sorts of stuff. Leave it to a guy from BC to know that : )
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by bilkat19 View Post

      Sandra is spot on. Growing is illegal but teaching people how isn't and then you can sell bongs, vaporizers, shirts all sorts of stuff. Leave it to a guy from BC to know that : )

      In Oklahoma, selling paraphernalia is a crime, or at least it used to be.
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      • Profile picture of the author JimDucharme
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        In Oklahoma, selling paraphernalia is a crime, or at least it used to be.
        See, here's the contradiction! Apparently a pipe is illegal because the assumption is that you just wouldn't want one unless you were going to use it in conjunction with pot and yet, pizza parlors are no problem. Another example of our inconsistent legal system at work .

        Tommy Chong goes to jail and Pappa John roams free? No justice! No piece (of pizza)!

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        • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
          Jim brings up a valid point about Chong. Keep in mind that weed is illegal on the federal level, let alone the bongs that Chong got popped for selling. Although I support the legalization for both medical AND recreational use, the industry itself is not the most profitable one, right now. Or at least as profitable as it was a couple of years ago.

          Colorado has the highest population of adult weed smokers, per capita, more than even Cali, and it has been that way for many years. It ain't just in altitude that us Native Coloradans are higher than everyone else. So, I know a little about the 'scene', as it were.

          For those thinking that this is an opportunity to start growing weed and then marketing it, think again. Obviously, shipping it from a legal state to a non-legal state is a bad, bad, idea. Don't do it. Look at Chong - he got made an example of just for selling pipes with weed leaves on them.

          The target for IMers is either people who want to learn how to grow their own or to help dispensaries (weed stores) with marketing campaigns. I'm actually a very, very skilled and experienced, umm, horticulturalist, specializing in Cannabis, going back close to 20 years. I dabbled in the Med industry a couple years ago, but got out of it. My second year was going to cost me about $75,000 just in lisc fees and meeting other requirements. Plus, I literally had to sign away many rights to the State (give them full, uncontested access to all of my bank accts, etc. - it was pretty invasive and ridiculous, considering the Coors family, who produces a drug WAY, WAY more harmful to individuals and societies, doesn't have to incur such anal exams).

          For complete safety, stick with info products (you can walk into any Barnes & Nobles and select from a few different books on how to grow weed - if they do it, so can you, without fear). Selling smoking accessories is fairly safe, but, don't forget about Chong and know that if one of your customers turns out to be the son/daughter of a federal prosecutor, well, who knows what the reaction would be. Stay away from seed selling too - many places in Europe allow seed selling, even if the final product is illegal, but to do anything with seeds, unless you are somewhere like Colo or Cali results in state lines being crossed and federal laws being broken.

          The last thing is to help dispesaries with their marketing. It has turned pretty cut throat and tight. 2-3 years ago, top notch product went for close to $400/ounce. Now, it is about $180/ounce. Profit margins have gone way, way down and will continue to fall with new legisalation making it legal for recreational use, so the weed stores will be scrambling for every straw they can grasp at to increase sales and bring in new customers.

          You can write an info product about growing (there are a couple out there), but you better know what you are doing and it takes years and many crops to finely tune a green thumb, like mine. We are talking at least a couple hundred pages, with lot's 'o pics, in traditional book form.

          A couple of other ideas as well, but seeds or finished product is a no-no. Further, if you are not living somewhere like Colo or Cali, you'll be moving things the wrong way - taking product from somewhere where it is expensive due to illegality and trying to sell it where the price is lower than all of the other states - people move weed, illegally, out of these states, not into them.
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    I'm in WA and when medical m went through a few years ago, the feds were coming in and shutting down shops since it's still illegal federally. I like the idea that this one passed, but I don't see it going far because the feds will get involved again. Maybe that's an angle...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

    Now that marijuana is legal in Colorado and Washington here's an interesting BBC article, part of which deals with how to market the stuff.

    BBC News - Marijuana legalisation in the US: Five burning questions

    Will we start seeing threads like this:

    What are the best marijuana keywords?

    Colorado Pot | Colorado Pot sold for $50,000!

    Best marijuana subniches?

    Can you sell marijuana on Amazon?

    Martin
    They are a little late. Boulder CO has more medical MJ dispensaries than the entire state of California.

    Denver has more medical MJ dispensaries than Starbucks.

    And here's a search for "MMJ" (medical marajuana) on Craigslist for Denver:
    denver all for sale / wanted classifieds "mmj" - craigslist
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    • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
      They are a little late. Boulder CO has more medical MJ dispensaries than the entire state of California.

      Denver has more medical MJ dispensaries than Starbucks.
      I think this comment from Kurt tells IMers about the B2B opportunities here ...
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    To be honest, I would be nervous to even get into this market. I don't care if it is legal in some states.
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    • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      To be honest, I would be nervous to even get into this market. I don't care if it is legal in some states.
      Why not in Canada? You guys have med laws on the books up there. I am pretty sure, that like the UK, seed sales are legal too - just don't sell seeds to the US. Several years ago, the DEA teamed up with the mounties and took down a seed bank, as he was selling to the US.

      As far as info products, well, we have the First Amendment here in the US (at least we are supposed to). Look on Amazon. Walk into a major bookstore chain like Barnes & Nobles and see how many books they have on the shelf about growing weed (at least in Colo). You are FINE selling information about Cannabis and how to grow it. It is a protected activity, on the federal level, under the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Neither Amazon nor B&N would take any kind of chance, jeopardizing huge multi-multi-multi million dollar operations over a very, very small handful of books, if it were otherwise.

      Selling weed and seeds is illegal on the federal level. Selling information is not. Someone might proffer a theorhetical argument that if you get invovled with helping dispensaries market their procduct that you could face RICO charges, but, I just don't see anything like that happening, as RICO charges would have to be brought against the Colorado State Legislature which crafted our distribution and supply laws for weed and the Department of Revenue that is the enforcement and regulation arm for the legislation.

      That ain't happening.

      Wait ... umm ... nevermind. Everyone stay away. Far, far away from anything IM and Sweet Lady Jane related. Bad, bad, idea. Stay away. Just move on to the next niche.



      It'll be less competition for me and the others who understand there are plenty of LEGAL ways to profit off of this niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    I'd probably wait until it is also legal federally, and/or the feds pass a law that so that they won't meddle with states where it is legal, before I would try to earn money off it in Colorado or Washington.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    It's not a market I'm interested in...But a couple of possibilities:

    - Web master and mailing list manager. MJ sites need to be updated as new strains are added to the inventory. Email addresses should be collected online through websites so the list can be sent news of news strains being available, as well as any specials. Email addresses should also be collected at the shops.

    - Hydroponics and other growing products and equipment. In Colorado, people will be able to grow up to 6 plants each. People will need the equipment and knowledge to do it, as well as organic fertilizers, etc. And, it's legal to grow tomatoes in every state.

    - MJ tourism guides. Not all locations in Colorado will allow MJ. Some will have better prices and quality than others. Discuss the laws and risks. Tie this in with Colorado's booming micro-brewery industry, food and restaurants and other tourist attractions. Review edibles for buzz and taste.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dale_Anthony
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Hydroponics and other growing products and equipment.
      That's something to look into.

      Three years ago when Michigan legalized medical marijuana there were "Alot" of ads on craigslist and the MJ discussion forums of people looking for hydrophonic equipment.


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    • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
      You all are soooo far behind the times.

      Every "method" mentioned in this thread has been and is being used currently. This is nothing new.

      Marc Emery was selling seeds through the mail 20 years ago. Bongs, vaporizers, seeds, hydro equipment, etc. is all old news and saturated to death.

      There are mail order weed dispensers in Canada and have been for some time. There are affiliate programs for seeds and all other related products.
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      • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
        Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post

        You all are soooo far behind the times.

        Every "method" mentioned in this thread has been and is being used currently. This is nothing new.

        Marc Emery was selling seeds through the mail 20 years ago. Bongs, vaporizers, seeds, hydro equipment, etc. is all old news and saturated to death.

        There are mail order weed dispensers in Canada and have been for some time. There are affiliate programs for seeds and all other related products.
        Not quite sure why you think we are all soooo far behind the times. The Medical Marijuana Industry has been around for a few years now, but what is going on with state after state legalizing it for medical use and Colorado now legalizing it for recreational use, well, the scope and scale of opportunities is growing.

        It is still new. Especially the recreational aspect. The whole dispensary business model is still relatively new.

        You forgot to mention that Emery is in JAIL. I'll go ahead and be soooo far behind the times concerning his business model as I don't want to join him in the hoosegow.

        We are talking about ways to LEGALLY work this niche, which there are many. The opportunities to run marketing campaigns, via things like mobile marketing and apps, is anything but dead.

        I disagree on things being 'saturated to death'. Not even close.

        Of course, I am just a guy that is soooo far behind the times, so, I dunno and am just talking out of my arse. I haven't had any real offline involvement in the dispensary industry as an owner and I don't currently know several dispensary owners, nor am I an experienced grower that has been involved in the online growing scene going back to the mid-90's. [/sarcasm]

        The whole niche is scaling up RogueOne. It is way, way too soon to make the proclamation you are that things are too saturated and we should all stay away. I can only guess that you are either protecting your niche and dissuading others or you truly do not see the LEGAL opportunities sitting here. Yes, others have been in the IM aspect of it for a while now, but the wave has yet to crest.

        Damn straight there is still room for folks to make some money in this niche, including some offline marketing. And perfectly legally.

        Of course, my opinion is all ...
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

          Not quite sure why you think we are all soooo far behind the times. The Medical Marijuana Industry has been around for a few years now, but what is going on with state after state legalizing it for medical use and Colorado now legalizing it for recreational use, well, the scope and scale of opportunities is growing.

          It is still new. Especially the recreational aspect. The whole dispensary business model is still relatively new.

          You forgot to mention that Emery is in JAIL. I'll go ahead and be soooo far behind the times concerning his business model as I don't want to join him in the hoosegow.

          We are talking about ways to LEGALLY work this niche, which there are many. The opportunities to run marketing campaigns, via things like mobile marketing and apps, is anything but dead.

          I disagree on things being 'saturated to death'. Not even close.

          Of course, I am just a guy that is soooo far behind the times, so, I dunno and am just talking out of my arse. I haven't had any real offline involvement in the dispensary industry as an owner and I don't currently know several dispensary owners, nor am I an experienced grower that has been involved in the online growing scene going back to the mid-90's. [/sarcasm]

          The whole niche is scaling up RogueOne. It is way, way too soon to make the proclamation you are that things are too saturated and we should all stay away. I can only guess that you are either protecting your niche and dissuading others or you truly do not see the LEGAL opportunities sitting here. Yes, others have been in the IM aspect of it for a while now, but the wave has yet to crest.

          Damn straight there is still room for folks to make some money in this niche, including some offline marketing. And perfectly legally.

          Of course, my opinion is all ...
          The problem I see with MJ in Colorado from a business point of view, is that most dispensary owners are really gardeners and farmers and not marketers/business people.

          Much of it is up to the future legislation, but IMO, they need to take a look at alcohol and cigarettes. Instead of growing 50 strains, they should try to perfect one or two strains based on yield and quality (and demand). Then build a brand based on their results.

          For example, "Foxy Blueberry" or "Kurt's Sour Diesel". Then distribute the brand MJ to multiple dispensaries. Again, this probably has much to do with how the laws will be written, but marketing often comes down to specialties and not trying to be everything to everybody.

          And, another thing...this is new and just the tip of the iceberg. I'll bet the laws will become more and more liberal as time goes on, just as it has in the Colorado casino industry. When casinos were first approved, games were limited to "games of skill" and low table limits. Over the years, the table limits have increased and the games have expanded to even include slots. As the MJ industry grows, so will their power and their ability to lobby the gov.

          Not to mention, 3 US congressman are trying to introduce a similar legalization law to the feds. I'm sure it won't pass, but it shows that things (and minds) are changing.
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          • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            The problem I see with MJ in Colorado from a business point of view, is that most dispensary owners are really gardeners and farmers and not marketers/business people.
            Believe it or not, it is quite the opposite. Well, not entirely the opposite. The marketing/business aspect was a bit lacking too. The actual quality, initially, was few and far between. It was a bunch of semi-growers, semi-business people scrambling to open a business in an entirely new and risky arena. It was whoever had enough cash in their pockets to get a lease, some grow lights and some nutrients.

            Or even just some grow lights and an extra room in their house hooking up with somebody who had enough to get a storefront going.

            With a few real business folk and quality farmers sprinkled in amongst the rest.

            It changed after the MMJ Legislation of a couple years ago, but most dispensary owners, in the beginning, didn't grow or know how to grow. They bought from people who would be signed up as some other legal user's Care Giver. So you had people who had 6 people registered with the State as their Care Giver and could grow each person's 6 allotted plants, giving them a legal 36 plant garden, usually in their basement. And then they would walk around with a backpack full of weed and go walk into a few different dispensaries and sell the excess their 'patients' didn't need.

            The Russian Mafia got involved pretty early too. Don't know the extent to which they are hanging around still. Pretty intensive background search done by the Department of Revenue on dispensary owners after the legislation (which came after a whole bunch of dispensaries had already opened up shop), including where you got the money to start a business that took tens of thousands to open up, so it is pretty cleaned up in that regard, at this point.

            Quality, top notch growers are still not the majority, although quality has increased due to people learning on the fly. A green thumb is not a skill everyone can develop and it takes a few years to master in order to get the full genetic expression out of a crop.

            It is like anything else, including IM. 90% or more of the people that attempt to grow will not succeed at becoming experts. Houseplants are house plants precisely because they are hard to kill. Sweet Lady Jane is a true outdoor plant - bring it indoors and try to play Mother Nature and most people will not get the full genetic expression out of them.

            Like I said in a post above, the price has dropped by 50%. It was $400/ounce two or three years ago and less than $200/ounce today. Add to that the increased State fees - it was about $15,000 the first year for the disp. lisc. and about $25,000 the next year, plus about $50,000 of mandatory, yet unecessary, expenditures for grows that were in the tens of thousands of Watts for lightning.

            Sayanora I said.

            $25,000 you have to give the Colorado State Department of Revenue just to play the game and open your doors for business. More than that to meet some ridiculous regulations as well. Probably more now in the last year or so.

            Point of all of that is that a lot of dispensary owners are now feeling the pinch. Not all of them have the growing end figured out and not all of them have the business/marketing end figured out yet, either.

            And, another thing...this is new and just the tip of the iceberg. I'll bet the laws will become more and more liberal as time goes on, just as it has in the Colorado casino industry. When casinos were first approved, games were limited to "games of skill" and low table limits. Over the years, the table limits have increased and the games have expanded to even include slots. As the MJ industry grows, so will their power and their ability to lobby the gov.
            Yup.

            Sorry for the ramble, just trying to share my knowledge of the industry for other Warriors to perhaps contemplate if they are considering what options might be out there to pursue.

            And pursue quite legally.

            There are both online and offline opportunities, but this is definitely a niche that benefits from actual knowledge and experience concerning things like grow books. There is no shortage of bad info, incomplete info and bad forum advice on da net concerning Sweet Lady Jane. But you don't need to know anything about that or have a Green Thumb to IM the beejeezus out of an information product put together by a Master Gardener. And you don't need to have a Green Thumb to work the beejeezus out of the offline and mobile opportunities either.

            I wonder how many of the people that are reading this will beat me to the punch and get to that money before my IM skills get to their level? Gotta give back the love every now and again - can't just read valuable info, you gotta give some back too...
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    Somebody suggested mj info products. Well, info products on growing marijuana are not anything new. They have been around for quite some time. There are even magazines dedicated to the growing and smoking of weed.

    I would imagine the market is growing quite a bit, now that some states are allowing private citizens to grow their own.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post

      You all are soooo far behind the times.

      Every "method" mentioned in this thread has been and is being used currently. This is nothing new.

      Marc Emery was selling seeds through the mail 20 years ago. Bongs, vaporizers, seeds, hydro equipment, etc. is all old news and saturated to death.

      There are mail order weed dispensers in Canada and have been for some time. There are affiliate programs for seeds and all other related products.
      Actually every method isn't being used. What is new is my suggestion for a Colorado MJ tourism guide. Considering the retail MJ shops won't open until Jan. 2014, it hasn't been done already, and I'm guessing this type of info will be in demand.

      And if I already mentioned that "They are a little late", wouldn't that also make your post a little late, too?

      Another thing that's new is the expanding market for these products and information, as well as info on the changing laws.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dale_Anthony
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      Somebody suggested mj info products. Well, info products on growing marijuana are not anything new. They have been around for quite some time. There are even magazines dedicated to the growing and smoking of weed.

      I would imagine the market is growing quite a bit, now that some states are allowing private citizens to grow their own.

      Two Words "Public Domain"

      I bet there's some Hemp Growing Books from the 1920's 30's & 40's with all kinds of tips and tricks (naturally, you'd have to update some of it). Take a few and turn them into one big eBook.

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        Originally Posted by Dale_Anthony View Post

        Two Words "Public Domain"

        I bet there's some Hemp Growing Books from the 1920's 30's & 40's with all kinds of tips and tricks (naturally, you'd have to update some of it). Take a few and turn them into one big eBook.

        ...
        With all due respect and not to nit pick, but not a good idea. You can look at books about growing weed that were written in the late 70's/early 80's that are incomplete to incorrect on many things.

        They weren't kicking thousand watt HID lights in hydroponic systems in the 20's and 30's. Further, hemp is not 'weed'. It has no use for recreational or medicinal purposes.

        Hemp is Cannabis Ruderalis and it lacks the necessary cannabinoids (one of which is THC) for recreational or medical use.

        My mom grew up on a farm in northern Iowa and every year they would have to cut down wild growing hemp. Hemp was grown in WWII in the US. The Department of Agriculture handed out the seeds and draft deferments were given to farmers who would stay home and farm hemp. It goes back to colonial times as well. In the words of George Washington:

        Make the most of the hemp seed and sow it everywhere.



        Picture from Wikipedia

        Hemp is not the same thing as what Cheech and Chong were smokin'. They were smoking Cannabis Sativa and Cannabis Indica.

        Add to that the fact that technology for indoor growing as well as the hybridization that has occurred, things have really changed and come a long way even from a couple of decades ago concerning indoor growing equipment, technique, specialized nutrients and breeding.

        Organic farming is a whole other subject unto itself, but loved by many stoners.

        All this knowledge comes from doing, studying and reading plants and trying out every method of growing there is for years. A green thumb cannot be gained by simply reading. Forums have been around for a while, but with the rush of newbies from all of the new medical marijuana laws in the last several years, there is a proliferation of posters who should be doing more reading than typing as they are the 'internet experts' and echo chamber a lot of misinformation, so be careful skimming those for an ebook as well.

        For real, if one were to do a grow guide, it is a real ebook. Not a 27 page, double spaced 20 pt font .pdf. A couple hundred pages - at least. Not 'cause I say so, but that is the standard for a Sweet Lady Jane Gorw Guide and all of the information that is expected.

        Obviously just more of my opinion ...
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        • Profile picture of the author Dale_Anthony
          Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post


          Hemp is Cannabis Ruderalis and it lacks the necessary cannabinoids (one of which is THC) for recreational or medical use.
          O.k. I'll change the word Hemp to Marijuana
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          Organic farming is a whole other subject unto itself, but loved by many stoners.
          Well I just found my niche within the niche
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    PS...I believe the Colorado law also legalizes industrial hemp? If I understand correctly, while growing hemp is illegal in all the other states, products made from hemp aren't. This industry has HUGE potential.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    Time to move to Colorado!
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  • Profile picture of the author Newbiemarketer76
    I beleive it is still a federal crime.

    Only people in America making money off of weed are the government and the cops when they seize it and sell it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    Am I the only warrior looking to relocate?

    Muahahahaahha
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Amazon probably already sells marijuana on their site... they get so high off the weed that they just start deleting accounts left and right without reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author nerdy88
    Wow!!!!! i love this!!!! Its a whole new revolution! Where will it be legalized next????I cant wait!! it could be in a town near you!!!!!
    But that doesnt mean you are going to be able to sell it online. the risks and lines are too fine and you could get yourself in a lot of mud but the fact is its legal in two other states!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Smells like teen spirit!!!!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rbtmarshall
    The marijuana market is already saturated with marketeers.

    It's been legal here in California since 1996 with a doctors recommendation. a patient can grow 6 plants for themselves.

    As mentioned, Tommy Chong (cheech & chong) got thrown in prison not too long ago and has since been released. His crime wasn't selling marijuana, or getting busted for his grow. His crime was selling a bong through his online headshop to a resident of Pennsylvania. Operation Pipe Dreams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Marijuana is still a risky venture since it is still illegal in the federal law. There is currently an case in Washington D.C. underway to have marijuana rescheduled. The actual exchange of cannabis by patients/caregivers is cash. No debit cards, no credit cards, federal law scheduling prohibits it. Forget your idea of putting a fee based franchise type ATM in the shops, they all already have one.

    There have been grow guides before the internet. The MJ community put's tons of information out there for free.

    the marijuana community is not like an ordinary business market. Here in California, grows are non profit co-ops which have a hard time deducting most normal business expenses.


    Someone mentioned Boulder being the leading city for dispensaries. That's not correct; Los Angeles alone, has more dispensaries than the whole state of Colorado.

    Also a thing to watch out for is if the government reschedules marijuana, you'll have to watch out for companies like phillip morris, who is probably salivating in hopes of national reform.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Rbtmarshall View Post

      The marijuana market is already saturated with marketeers.

      It's been legal here in California since 1996 with a doctors recommendation. a patient can grow 6 plants for themselves.

      As mentioned, Tommy Chong (cheech & chong) got thrown in prison not too long ago and has since been released. His crime wasn't selling marijuana, or getting busted for his grow. His crime was selling a bong through his online headshop to a resident of Pennsylvania. Operation Pipe Dreams - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


      Marijuana is still a risky venture since it is still illegal in the federal law. There is currently an case in Washington D.C. underway to have marijuana rescheduled. The actual exchange of cannabis by patients/caregivers is cash. No debit cards, no credit cards, federal law scheduling prohibits it. Forget your idea of putting a fee based franchise type ATM in the shops, they all already have one.

      There have been grow guides before the internet. The MJ community put's tons of information out there for free.

      the marijuana community is not like an ordinary business market. Here in California, grows are non profit co-ops which have a hard time deducting most normal business expenses.


      Someone mentioned Boulder being the leading city for dispensaries. That's not correct; Los Angeles alone, has more dispensaries than the whole state of Colorado.

      Also a thing to watch out for is if the government reschedules marijuana, you'll have to watch out for companies like phillip morris, who is probably salivating in hopes of national reform.
      Actually, after some research it looks like we are both wrong. Boulder doesn't have more dispensaries than CA. And LA doesn't have more dispensaries than Colorado.

      The numbers seem to be LA has 472 dispensaries that are actually open. While Denver has about 400.

      Denver population: 620,000
      LA population: 3.8 million

      Using round numbers, LA has 600% the population of Denver, but only 20% more dispensaries.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rbtmarshall
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Actually, after some research it looks like we are both wrong. Boulder doesn't have more dispensaries than CA. And LA doesn't have more dispensaries than Colorado.

        The numbers seem to be LA has 472 dispensaries that are actually open. While Denver has about 400.

        Denver population: 620,000
        LA population: 3.8 million

        Using round numbers, LA has 600% the population of Denver, but only 20% more dispensaries.
        population density aside. Los Angeles doesn't even know how many dispensaries it has. they recently estimated it at over 1000 in the city.

        1000+ has been in the news recently. A month ago, Los Angeles tried closing a majority of the dispensaries that were established after 2007, 187 dispensaries are considered pre-ico. The city has repealed that decision due to a petition with enough signatures, 40 thousand i think it was. Now it has to go to an election if it progresses at all. These actions were before the elections Nov 6th.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by Rbtmarshall View Post

          population density aside. Los Angeles doesn't even know how many dispensaries it has. they recently estimated it at over 1000 in the city.

          1000+ has been in the news recently. A month ago, Los Angeles tried closing a majority of the dispensaries that were established after 2007, 187 dispensaries are considered pre-ico. The city has repealed that decision due to a petition with enough signatures, 40 thousand i think it was. Now it has to go to an election if it progresses at all. These actions were before the elections Nov 6th.
          Yep, and of the "1,000" about 472 are actually open according to my research on Google:
          Number of LA Pot Shops in Question | NBC Southern California
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
      Originally Posted by Rbtmarshall View Post

      Also a thing to watch out for is if the government reschedules marijuana, you'll have to watch out for companies like phillip morris, who is probably salivating in hopes of national reform.
      I actually read a report offline somewhere that PM was actually spending more money on marijuana research than anything else besides third world tobacco marketing/distribution.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulyC
    I havent' read through the other posts, but don't forget that although it is legal at the State level in CO and WA, it is still illegal at the federal level. I personally wouldn't get into the business of marijuana, not because I am against it or because I don't believe it has many medical uses (I know it does I'm a physician), but it just seems like a risk that isn't necessary to take.
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  • Profile picture of the author locke815
    Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

    Now that marijuana is legal in Colorado and Washington here's an interesting BBC article, part of which deals with how to market the stuff.

    BBC News - Marijuana legalisation in the US: Five burning questions

    Will we start seeing threads like this:

    What are the best marijuana keywords?

    Colorado Pot | Colorado Pot
    sold for $50,000!

    Best marijuana subniches?


    Can you sell marijuana on Amazon?


    Martin

    Is this even legal?
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  • Profile picture of the author CDaeda
    The drug cartel does not like competition and they have hired guns?
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