If This is Your Product, You're Being Ripped Off

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If you're the creator of any of these products,
PM me. You're being ripped off and after weeks
of dealing with this myself I have a 5-minute
solution for you that will stop it.

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The Affiliate Handbook (James Martell)
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The person ripping you off also owns the
following sites, notorious for not paying
their affiliates -

LiveFeeds.tv
RichGeek.com
DVDWizardPro.com
GameCopyPro.com
PSPBlender.com
PSPXStudio.com
iPodBlender.com
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  • Profile picture of the author GrantFreeman
    Interesting. Thanks, X!

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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
      Ouch, the Hall of shame....

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      • Profile picture of the author martinp
        Well realistically aren't everybody's products being ripped off somewhere? With all these so called 'sharing' websites etc I think you'll find that most products are available for free somewhere. It's a sad fact, but it's true.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          I know a lot of the sites that the person "owns" are also clickbank Products...
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        • Profile picture of the author X
          Originally Posted by martinp View Post

          Well realistically aren't everybody's products being ripped off somewhere? With all these so called 'sharing' websites etc I think you'll find that most products are available for free somewhere. It's a sad fact, but it's true.
          Damn it. One of my resolutions this year
          was to become more apathetic.

          Not.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
            Greetings X,

            Thank you for your announcement. Not so good to experience that your hard work is ripped off, but what can we do against it?
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          • Profile picture of the author martinp
            Tut, tut 'X', isn't sarcasm the lowest form of wit ? I am by no means apathetic, but if you knew all the ways it is possible to rip off a product then you'd see that it is a waste of time chasing those who do it. Sure you can protect your downloads by using something like DLGuard - but when it comes down to it, you can't stop people from buying and then distributing the product.
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            • Sad to say, but X is just showing a very small part of a large problem...
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            • Profile picture of the author X
              Originally Posted by martinp View Post

              Tut, tut 'X', isn't sarcasm the lowest form of wit ? I am by no means apathetic, but if you knew all the ways it is possible to rip off a product then you'd see that it is a waste of time chasing those who do it. Sure you can protect your downloads by using something like DLGuard - but when it comes down to it, you can't stop people from buying and then distributing the product.
              Actually Martin, you're wrong. I now have technology
              that embeds a unique tracking code into every digital
              product I sell.

              That unique tracking code is logged in a database
              that tells me exactly who purchased the product.

              Each time the product is accessed, I know who
              accessed it and where - unless they're not online,
              but who isn't online? So if you buy my product,
              I know if you're spreading it around and if you are
              then you're in violation of the law. I have an exact
              access count, along with IP information and that will
              make suing you very easy.

              If you pass my product to someone who then spreads
              it around virally, guess who's on the hook? You.

              Yeah, but what if I use a bogus name and email?

              You don't get the product without a legit email -
              and bogus name? For .75 I can get a name, phone
              and address match to just about any email on the
              planet.

              And no, I have no intention of selling that - it's
              an entirely new niche called "I'm going to make a
              nice living suing dumb-shits who think it's OK to
              steal my work."

              Frankly, I don't care if the Warez losers "might"
              buy my stuff. I think I have a responsibility to
              my customers to protect their investment too.

              And yes Martin, you ARE apathetic.

              X
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              • Profile picture of the author Steve Iser
                I'll let Hansen know about NMOC.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Montgomery
                  I've found at least one of my products have been
                  stolen and srread around but I've found that I'm
                  making commissions off of affiliate links in the book.

                  On one hand it stinks on the other hand the people
                  who steal it will never do anything with it anyway.

                  I think some people will probably take offense to your
                  dogmatic attitude point of views about this and
                  other people's thoughts, ie. "And yes Martin, you ARE apathetic."

                  Can you really tell if someone is apathetic from a single
                  forum post?
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
                Originally Posted by X View Post

                Actually Martin, you're wrong. I now have technology
                that embeds a unique tracking code into every digital
                product I sell.
                They're not just spreading your stuff, they're "null"ing it first... removing tracking codes and copyright notices. These kids are pretty smart.

                Google: "nulled".
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                • Profile picture of the author ChristianM
                  Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

                  They're not just spreading your stuff, they're "null"ing it first... removing tracking codes and copyright notices. These kids are pretty smart.

                  Google: "nulled".
                  Just because some people are capable of nulling it doesn't mean they will - people are lazy.

                  For a start it isn't necessarily easy to do and takes time - not everyone will be capable of doing it. Additionally, if the tracking is in the background then they may not have noticed it and therefore not bothered to null it.

                  Obviously if someone wants to steal your product that bad then they're going to be able to but the art is making it easier just to buy the thing.
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                  • Profile picture of the author dbh
                    I've got an idea - lets all make our potential customers pass a background check after they pay but before they get the product. Kinda like buying a gun.....
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              • Profile picture of the author Simon_Sezs
                Originally Posted by X View Post

                Actually Martin, you're wrong. I now have technology
                that embeds a unique tracking code into every digital
                product I sell.

                That unique tracking code is logged in a database
                that tells me exactly who purchased the product.

                Each time the product is accessed, I know who
                accessed it and where - unless they're not online,
                but who isn't online? So if you buy my product,
                I know if you're spreading it around and if you are
                then you're in violation of the law. I have an exact
                access count, along with IP information and that will
                make suing you very easy.
                ummm....wouldn't that be considered spyware? Personally, I would be pretty pissed if I knew that a product that I bought was actually using tracking technology without my knowledge.

                I don't know X. Sounds like you are making a very big deal out of something that only a small minority of people do.
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                • Profile picture of the author jjpmarketing
                  Suing them would be a time consuming venture. I say forget 'em. Just set your ebook or software or whatever it is they are stealing in a way that can be monetized when it is given away... like affiliate links
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              • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
                Originally Posted by X View Post

                Actually Martin, you're wrong. I now have technology
                that embeds a unique tracking code into every digital
                product I sell.

                That unique tracking code is logged in a database
                that tells me exactly who purchased the product.

                Each time the product is accessed, I know who
                accessed it and where - unless they're not online,
                but who isn't online? So if you buy my product,
                I know if you're spreading it around and if you are
                then you're in violation of the law. I have an exact
                access count, along with IP information and that will
                make suing you very easy.

                If you pass my product to someone who then spreads
                it around virally, guess who's on the hook? You.

                Yeah, but what if I use a bogus name and email?

                You don't get the product without a legit email -
                and bogus name? For .75 I can get a name, phone
                and address match to just about any email on the
                planet.

                And no, I have no intention of selling that - it's
                an entirely new niche called "I'm going to make a
                nice living suing dumb-shits who think it's OK to
                steal my work."

                Frankly, I don't care if the Warez losers "might"
                buy my stuff. I think I have a responsibility to
                my customers to protect their investment too.

                And yes Martin, you ARE apathetic.

                X
                And what if it was stolen from them?

                And personally I don't like the idea of my product movements being tracked so close.

                Do you inform your customers of this "technology" B4 they buy?(hypothetical)

                Microsoft is one thing, but I just don't know how those permissions apply to ebooks.

                I guess it's the honest ones who pay the most.

                And why I will never buy an EXE book as well.

                Not an attack on the concept, but the more restrictions added to products are bound to reduce sales.

                Perhaps it it better to get away from paid ebooks all together, only offer free versions.

                Then keep all the critical information in a password access only members site.

                Just my opinion.

                Best!
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                • Profile picture of the author Phil Jacobson
                  Just gotta check here. Chris Carpenter wrote Google Cash and Google Cash was mentioned in the original post. Does this mean he is sus?


                  Please inform.

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                  • Profile picture of the author Eric Johnson
                    Man, I gotta say I would be INFURIATED if I found out that someone was tracking my use of a product that I bought fair and square. Bad mojo man...seriously...
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                    • Profile picture of the author jjpmarketing
                      I have to agree. That is a major violation of privacy. That is almost spyware.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
              Originally Posted by martinp View Post

              Tut, tut 'X', isn't sarcasm the lowest form of wit ? I am by no means apathetic, but if you knew all the ways it is possible to rip off a product then you'd see that it is a waste of time chasing those who do it. Sure you can protect your downloads by using something like DLGuard - but when it comes down to it, you can't stop people from buying and then distributing the product.
              It's such apathy that lets us all slip into chaos. If nobody fights back, the bad guys win. Can't let that happen.

              I think the old saying applies, "Either you're with us or against us"
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          • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
            Originally Posted by X View Post

            Damn it. One of my resolutions this year
            was to become more apathetic.
            LOL... I like your stand on this X... word.

            Peace

            Jay
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  • Unfortunately, I think everyone with digital products is probably being ripped off. If a powerhouse like Microsoft can't stop such practices, what chance do little guys like us have?

    The answer: not much
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  • Profile picture of the author MommyEnterprises
    Interesting post...
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