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Okey Dokey..

There are now over 115,000 cases worldwide and 4,200 deaths..

This makes this about 40 times more lethal than a flu.

It's now in almost every state in the US.

Is there a reason to panic? I don't think so....but if you're over the age of 60, or have serious health problems, I sure as heck wouldn't plan a vacation. plane trip, cruise, or go to any large gatherings.

Because if you're over 65 years old, and get this bug...it may have a 10% chance of killing you. And that's just too high.

Don't know how accurate this is, a few days ago 80+ was at 16%


COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:

AGE
DEATH RATE
80+ years old
14.8%
70-79 years old
8.0%
60-69 years old
3.6%
50-59 years old
1.3%
40-49 years old
0.4%
30-39 years old
0.2%
20-29 years old
0.2%
10-19 years old
0.2%
0-9 years old
no fatalities

COVID-19 Fatality Rate by SEX:

SEX
DEATH RATE
Male
2.8%
Female
1.7%

COVID-19 Fatality Rate by COMORBIDITY:

PRE-EXISTING CONDITION
DEATH RATE
Cardiovascular disease
10.5%
Diabetes
7.3%
Chronic respiratory disease
6.3%
Hypertension
6.0%
Cancer
5.6%
no pre-existing conditions
0.9%





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This makes this about 40 times more lethal than a flu.

Expert today said '10x as lethal as seasonal flu'. The info above is eye opening.


A question no one seems to be asking:


We have vaccines for 'flu' and in the US there s a big push every year to 'get vaccinated'.....yet from Oct - Feb this 'regular flu season' - 20k people have died of the 'seasonal flu in the US'. Wonder what that number would be WITHOUT vaccines - and why is it so high with vaccines? Mutation of the virus?

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Further developments:

Travel ban to the US from Europe (excluding the UK, which I suppose isn't legally part of Europe anymore);
NBA suspends all fixtures indefinitely;
Tom Hanks (who is currently in Australia making a movie) and his wife have both tested positive for COVID-19.

On a personal note, I did my weekly shop this morning and as chance would have it, one of the items on my list, as a necessity was (TAH-DAH!) toilet paper. I got to the shops just as they opened and went straight into the supermarket and straight to the TP aisle. They hadn't even bothered putting it on the shelves, they just had a pallet of packs of rolls in the aisle. I grabbed a pack of 24 rolls (limit of one per customer) and went straight to the checkout with it. I then went to the car and put it in there. Then, back to the supermarket and do my regular shop. By the time I got back to the TP aisle the entire pallet's worth had gone and even the pallet had been removed. All in the space of less than 15 minutes.

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Further developments:

Travel ban to the US from Europe (excluding the UK, which I suppose isn't legally part of Europe anymore);
NBA suspends all fixtures indefinitely;
Tom Hanks (who is currently in Australia making a movie) and his wife have both tested positive for COVID-19.

On a personal note, I did my weekly shop this morning and as chance would have it, one of the items on my list, as a necessity was (TAH-DAH!) toilet paper. I got to the shops just as they opened and went straight into the supermarket and straight to the TP aisle. They hadn't even bothered putting it on the shelves, they just had a pallet of packs of rolls in the aisle. I grabbed a pack of 24 rolls (limit of one per customer) and went straight to the checkout with it. I then went to the car and put it in there. Then, back to the supermarket and do my regular shop. By the time I got back to the TP aisle the entire pallet's worth had gone and even the pallet had been removed. All in the space of less than 15 minutes.
You were lucky, l tried Woolies, Coles, several Chemists and Priceline at one shopping ctr, sold out, yesterday. With Amazon, AU being out til next month.

But a pack of 20 is easy to buy at Coles or Woolies, (Safeway) online, and with having to put in credit card and other details a lot harder for scum to clean out.

Ebay, AU, isn't tolerating this BS either or if they see toilet paper sold for $1000 or more they pull the ad, as quickly as it goes up, (they seem to leave one's sold for less $100).

Not sure if there are any Jeffery stores in WA, but that was the last place l found some rolls with two weeks ago.

So no need to panic!



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You were lucky, l tried Woolies, Coles, several Chemists and Priceline at one shopping ctr, sold out, yesterday. With Amazon, AU being out til next month.

But a pack of 20 is easy to buy at Coles or Woolies, (Safeway) online, and with having to put in credit card and other details a lot harder for scum to clean out.

Ebay, AU, isn't tolerating this BS either or if they see toilet paper sold for $1000 or more they pull the ad, as quickly as it goes up, (they seem to leave one's sold for less $100).

Not sure if there are any Jeffery stores in WA, but that was the last place l found some rolls with two weeks ago.

So no need to panic!


No we don't have Jeffery in WA, that I'm aware of anyway. I did my shopping at the local Coles. According to the staff there it's the same thing every day. They put a pallet of dunny rolls out and within 15 minutes they're all gone.

I also stacked up on some foods that will last indefinitely such as tinned baked beans, spaghetti, tuna, soups etc. If I don't need to go into quarantine, either enforced or self-imposed, it'll still be in the cupboard next year.

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No we don't have Jeffery in WA, that I'm aware of anyway. I did my shopping at the local Coles. According to the staff there it's the same thing every day. They put a pallet of dunny rolls out and within 15 minutes they're all gone.

I also stacked up on some foods that will last indefinitely such as tinned baked beans, spaghetti, tuna, soups etc. If I don't need to go into quarantine, either enforced or self-imposed, it'll still be in the cupboard next year.
Just went through Coles online, and will probably need to take the rest of the day off.

$50 minimal spend, no more in store pickups available due to high demand, so had to get it home delivered.

Around $10 for the delivery, which isn't too bad, and yes, I bought a pack of 20 Rolls!

And stocked up on flour and pasta, (another two disappearing shelves items).


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A question no one seems to be asking:


We have vaccines for 'flu' and in the US there s a big push every year to 'get vaccinated'.....yet from Oct - Feb this 'regular flu season' - 20k people have died of the 'seasonal flu in the US'. Wonder what that number would be WITHOUT vaccines - and why is it so high with vaccines? Mutation of the virus?
The vaccine is only 40 to 60% effective.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm

What happens is that every year, a committee set up by the WHO meets to select the virus strains to be used in the next vaccine. Usually it is one A H3N2 strain, one A H1N1 strain and a B strain. They select the strains which they think will be most prevalent in most parts of the world next year. Of course they can get it wrong. If you catch a strain that is very unrelated to the vaccine strain, you are not going to be protected.

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The vaccine is only 40 to 60% effective.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm

What happens is that every year, a committee set up by the WHO meets to select the virus strains to be used in the next vaccine. Usually it is one A H3N2 strain, one A H1N1 strain and a B strain. They select the strains which they think will be most prevalent in most parts of the world next year. Of course they can get it wrong. If you catch a strain that is very unrelated to the vaccine strain, you are not going to be protected.
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Spain's top soccer league has suspended its season for two weeks to work out what to do next.

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The vaccine is only 40 to 60% effective.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm

What happens is that every year, a committee set up by the WHO meets to select the virus strains to be used in the next vaccine. Usually it is one A H3N2 strain, one A H1N1 strain and a B strain. They select the strains which they think will be most prevalent in most parts of the world next year. Of course they can get it wrong. If you catch a strain that is very unrelated to the vaccine strain, you are not going to be protected.
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Here in Norway we just got news that every school , kindergarten, organized sports, etc will be closed. Here's an article about the measures taken:

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And there are rumours from "senior F1 sources" that the Australian F1 Grand Prix is going to be cancelled.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/51849163

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tbh my heart goes out to all the gimps been voluntarily self-isolated for so long they forgot what trees look like.


Meantime, gotta hope evrywan here is dowin' OK.

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Derek, I just want to take a moment to thank you for the comments you bring to this thread. I appreciate your willingness to freely provide your insights.
^ What he said. ^

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How Serious is the Coronavirus? Infectious Disease Expert Michael Osterholm Explains This is from the Joe Rogan Podcast. Worth a listen. It's about 15 minutes.


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"CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza"

Interesting. So far, the shutting down of the world has not been implemented every year over the FLU.

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"CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza"

Interesting. So far, the shutting down of the world has not been implemented every year over the FLU.
It's 10x deadlier then the flu.


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It's 10x deadlier then the flu.
Yes, granted, so given the amount infections gets as high as the flu does, 10 times more will die, but that's an if. The Corona virus is not seasonal though, it does not come back each year. The Corona Virus will never kill the amount of people Flu has over time and will continue to do so and the inoculations against the flu are included in these figures and we still get this mortality rate.

If you look at the big picture.....

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The recent Cliff High video about this virus is frightful.

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How Serious is the Coronavirus? Infectious Disease Expert Michael Osterholm Explains This is from the Joe Rogan Podcast. Worth a listen. It's about 15 minutes.

How Serious is the Coronavirus? Infectious Disease Expert Michael Osterholm Explains | Joe Rogan - YouTube
I watched most of it, depressing. And you (and I) need to get into eating salads asap.

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Yes, granted, so given the amount infections gets as high as the flu does, 10 times more will die, but that's an if. The Corona virus is not seasonal though, it does not come back each year. The Corona Virus will never kill the amount of people Flu has over time and will continue to do so and the inoculations against the flu are included in these figures and we still get this mortality rate.

If you look at the big picture.....
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How Serious is the Coronavirus? Infectious Disease Expert Michael Osterholm Explains This is from the Joe Rogan Podcast. Worth a listen. It's about 15 minutes.
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And there are rumours from "senior F1 sources" that the Australian F1 Grand Prix is going to be cancelled.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/51849163
Yep, that one is cancelled, due to an update on the virus. So l guess the Melb, international Flower Show will be next?

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"CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza"

Interesting. So far, the shutting down of the world has not been implemented every year over the FLU.
Agreed, but this one can infect everyone in one hit, and it is the one hit that is a worry.

When hospitals are full and the elderly are forming a cue, then it may get ugly.

The Spanish Flu killed 50,000,000 from 1918 - 1920, so this is a concern, but a very long way off of being the worst.

This is an interesting article, which shows that eventhough it may seem like overkill for closing things down, it actually makes a lot of sense to go overboard now than later.

https://qz.com/1816060/a-chart-of-th...tancing-works/

I guess movie theatres will be next!

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What a weird time to live in.
Where I live, the toilet paper is now rare and the supermarkets are packed.

Ontario just closed down its public schools for two weeks.

The Quebec premier just publicly proposed closing the US-Canada border.

3/4 of Canadian exports go to the US. Though no one in Ottawa ever listens to him, to even propose this is bonkers.
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Yep, that one is cancelled, due to an update on the virus. So l guess the Melb, international Flower Show will be next?



Agreed, but this one can infect everyone in one hit, and it is the one hit that is a worry.

When hospitals are full and the elderly are forming a cue, then it may get ugly.

The Spanish Flu killed 50,000,000 from 1918 - 1920, so this is a concern, but a very long way off of being the worst.

This is an interesting article, which shows that eventhough it may seem like overkill for closing things down, it actually makes a lot of sense to go overboard now than later.

https://qz.com/1816060/a-chart-of-th...tancing-works/

I guess movie theatres will be next!
I think you are all missing some points here. The Corona Virus is not showing to be more virulent in spreading than the flu is each year. How many times have you caught the flu in the last ten years. I have never had a flu jab and have not had the Flu in ten years.

So the odds of you not getting this Corona virus are very good. The fear is that the symptoms are worst if you do, However, if you are in good health you are highly unlikely to die from it. The statistics I want to see is what proportion of the deaths are from elderly people or people with a weak disposition and pre-existing conditions of which a virus like this could carry them off. Something that influenza could also do.

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Just came back from the shopping ctr, (l risked it) and saw warnings on Woolies, auto checkouts, saying, " that if you horde toilet rolls, pasta, hand towels and the like, we won't refund you, if you can't flog it and a high price increase".

In a nutshell, but good to see, that these scumbags filling up their houses with 24 packs will be stuck with it.

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FMD. What a day.

First off the Australian Grand Prix was indeed cancelled just as there was a huge crowd gathering to get into the event.

Next all public events that attract more than 500 people have been banned.

Then a senior member of the Australian government, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton, has been tested positive for COVID-19. This is after meeting with Americans such as Ivanka Trump and Attorney General William Barr.

https://twitter.com/AusintheUS/statu...097026/photo/1
(That's Dutton on Ivanka's left, and Barr to her right)

Most sporting events including the AFL and NRL will be held behind closed doors for the forseeable future.

On top of all that (and more), the ASX experienced its wildest day in living memory. It opened down a tad under 7%, then fizzled out even further to a >8% loss, and then in the last hour and a half of trading bounced back and closed the day up 4.1%!!! In over 25 years of following the ASX as measured by the All Ordinaries Index (the 500 biggest companies on the ASX), I have never seen such a wild swing as today.

Next up, Friday in Europe and North America is just beginning.

Black Friday indeed.

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FMD. What a day.

First off the Australian Grand Prix was indeed cancelled just as there was a huge crowd gathering to get into the event.

Next all public events that attract more than 500 people have been banned.

Then a senior member of the Australian government, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton, has been tested positive for COVID-19. This is after meeting with Americans such as Ivanka Trump and Attorney General William Barr.

https://twitter.com/AusintheUS/statu...097026/photo/1
(That's Dutton on Ivanka's left, and Barr to her right)

Most sporting events including the AFL and NRL will be held behind closed doors for the forseeable future.

On top of all that (and more), the ASX experienced its wildest day in living memory. It opened down a tad under 7%, then fizzled out even further to a >8% loss, and then in the last hour and a half of trading bounced back and closed the day up 4.1%!!! In over 25 years of following the ASX as measured by the All Ordinaries Index (the 500 biggest companies on the ASX), I have never seen such a wild swing as today.

Next up, Friday in Europe and North America is just beginning.

Black Friday indeed.
I have friends who maybe in trouble. One of them told me he already lost 35% of his wealth.

My grandpa lost everything during the crash that caused the great depression.

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I have friends who maybe in trouble. One of them told me he already lost 35% of his wealth
If it's any consolation, the losses they've incurred are "paper" losses so far. If they panic sell, then they become REAL losses. Markets will bounce back over the course of time. Of course whether its a consolation or not depends on how old your friends are. If they're close to retirement, or are already retired, there's not much can be done about it. If they still have 10 or more years till they're due to retire, then the best thing is to just sit it out and await the inevitable bounce back. If they have any spare cash then waiting until things begin to right themselves and buying more at bargain prices is a good move.

Another factor to consider is how long they've been invested for. If they started at the end of last year, then they're pretty screwed. If they've been invested since, say 2009 when the worst of the Global Financial Meltdown was over, they should still be a long way ahead of where they started. If they've been invested for even longer, then they're in an even better position.

All that being said though, I get the feeling that things are going to get worse before they begin to get better.

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Now a dog has got clobbered.

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Now a dog has got clobbered.

Before pasting the link to the latest 'crisis' here - do some research. The virus of the dog is not the same strain but does trigger the test. That story is from 2 weeks ago and has been debunked since then.



When you found the grocery aisle had no toilet paper - what did you do? Did you scream "NO TP" or go looking for facial tissue or baby wipes or similar alternative?



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If it's any consolation, the losses they've incurred are "paper" losses so far. If they panic sell, then they become REAL losses. Markets will bounce back over the course of time. Of course whether its a consolation or not depends on how old your friends are. If they're close to retirement, or are already retired, there's not much can be done about it. If they still have 10 or more years till they're due to retire, then the best thing is to just sit it out and await the inevitable bounce back. If they have any spare cash then waiting until things begin to right themselves and buying more at bargain prices is a good move.

Another factor to consider is how long they've been invested for. If they started at the end of last year, then they're pretty screwed. If they've been invested since, say 2009 when the worst of the Global Financial Meltdown was over, they should still be a long way ahead of where they started. If they've been invested for even longer, then they're in an even better position.

All that being said though, I get the feeling that things are going to get worse before they begin to get better.
Today I found out that we have lost every gain we have ever had in the stock market. In other words, we now have slightly less than we have invested over the years. (The last few years we really stepped it up).

Am I worried? No. In fact, I think now is the time to add what we can. But I do wonder how much this will affect our retail sales.


We are now the last developed country to start mass testing for this virus.

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Today I found out that we have lost every gain we have ever had in the stock market. In other words, we now have slightly less than we have invested over the years. (The last few years we really stepped it up).

Am I worried? No. In fact, I think now is the time to add what we can. But I do wonder how much this will affect our retail sales.


We are now the last developed country to start mass testing for this virus.

Hey google, "average age of congressman"


The average age of Members of the House at the beginning of the 115th Congress was 57.8 years; of Senators, 61.8 years, among the oldest in U.S. history.

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And most of em are over weight, smoke, drink and are in overall poor health.

I would think the candidates for the prime target award would put a little hustle into the operation that might save them.


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When you found the grocery aisle had no toilet paper - what did you do? Did you scream "NO TP" or go looking for facial tissue or baby wipes or similar alternative?

I think perhaps those who quietly survive the TP crisis by finding an alternative without drama - are those who have a chance of survival when 'the big one' hits....whatever it is.
I would do what l said l did in post #57.


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Tesla has had its biggest drop in its trading history, or almost 50%.

I am glad that l am waiting this out and not in the game.


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They closed the community college I work at for another week

I was on a week off because they shut down the College for Spring Break. That has been extended to two.

We have a thing called a VPN that allows us to access our works system so we may be asked to do some tasks remotely from our home computers next week.

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Q. How do you ensure people will attend your conference?
A. Announce there will be free toilet paper at the end of the conference.

In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
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They closed the community college I work at for another week

I was on a week off because they shut down the College for Spring Break. That has been extended to two.

We have a thing called a VPN that allows us to access our works system so we may be asked to do some tasks remotely from our home computers next week.
"Uh, sorry, boss. My computer isn't working."

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"Uh, sorry, boss. My computer isn't working."

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Yeah, shame about that innit.

When my now ex wife retired a year or so ago I tried to setup the VPN on her computer (so she could do freelance) based on instructions on our website. I called tech support to tell them it did not work. They said..no it does not work.

I have just received in my work email a guide to setting up the VPN. I wonder if that will.

Utilities are the main things that want paying. (I pay bills in A/P) or the power, water and gas etc will be disconnected eventually.

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Yeah, shame about that innit.

When my now ex wife retired a year or so ago I tried to setup the VPN on her computer (so she could do freelance) based on instructions on our website. I called tech support to tell them it did not work. They said..no it does not work.

I have just received in my work email a guide to setting up the VPN. I wonder if that will.

Utilities are the main things that want paying. (I pay bills in A/P) or the power, water and gas etc will be disconnected eventually.
There's no such thing as "bills" in the zombie apocalypse.
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There's no such thing as "bills" in the zombie apocalypse.
Cronos, the King of the Titans has finally unleashed his anger on the world. We all knew it had to come

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Things are getting mad here in the UK - People stocking up on products like mad and there's lots of scalpers selling sanitiser etc at absurd prices.

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A film docu taken from China's most affected zone.

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I've always been a solution orientated person. Here's what I believe we should be doing concerning corona virus based on these facts:

Facts:
  1. Wearing a mask doesn't protect you from getting corona, except from by rubbing your nose and mouth. But it does help prevent you from spreading it to others, which is why the sick/contagious people at the Dr office wear masks, not the healthy people.
  2. Hydrogen peroxide has been proven to be very effective at killing corona.

I believe if everyone that went out in public wore a mask and carried a squirt bottle of hydrogene peroxide (h2o2) and squirting things that we touch and where we gather, there would be a lot less spread of the virus.

If people would squirt door knobs, hand rails, shoppping cart handles, mail areas at apartments, we we would kill a lot of the virus. And there would be a lot less to kil because people wear masks.

Hydrogen peroxide is H2O2, basically water with an extra oxegen molecule. When it breaks down it breaks down into water and oxegen, so it's totally safe for our enviroment.

These are cheap, safe and proven effective methods. If I were King of the World I would ramp up the production of masks and h2o2 and require anyone that goes out in public to both wear a mask and carry a squirt bottle of h2o. We need to protect and arm ourselves and fit this.

If you use h2o2, the only "catch" is that it must be kept out of light in a dark bottle because light breaks it down.
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There's no such thing as "bills" in the zombie apocalypse.
I'm not worried about Bills in the event of a zombie apocalypse, as long as there are no Claudes. Could do without Dans, Marks, Shanes, and Kurts as well.

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I'm actually flabbergasted at how, in January this was a news story about events in China.

By February it was one of the biggest news stories in the world.

Now it seems to be pretty much the only story - everywhere.

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Walking into a store while coughing can draw LOTS of attention these days, and people will move out of your way fast. And a sneeze no longer results in merely a courteous "Bless you!" anymore. You can get the whole store to yourself.
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I'm actually flabbergasted at how, in January this was a news story about events in China.

By February it was one of the biggest news stories in the world.

Now it seems to be pretty much the only story - everywhere.
Yeah, the sooner we can get past this drop in the bucket we can return to the real threat to human existence..Global Warming

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Saw this on a friend's FB page today:


Closing down the media for 3 months should clear up 80% of the current issues across the board...just sayin'

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