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Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

I Googled webmd.com pharma scandal...just like you suggested. I read the first 5 or 6 postings. Then I went to Wikipedia, and read their article on Webmd and the scandal. I found two articles that said that their editorial staff was separate from their advertising staff. Just like any newspaper or news magazine.

All I could find is that they sold ads on the site, just like any other website not government owned....and mentioned fish oil as a supplement.

I found nothing that would suggest that they are printing lies. And I found (on the limited number of pages I read on their site) none of the language I was talking about that glaringly indicated bias.

That cannot be said for most of what I see linked to here.
Like you Claude I nearly always went to Wikipedia for an accurate description of the truth. I did find many of their articles carried quite a bias and not always presented the true science let alone the truth.
If you have a look at Ivermectin on Wiki concerning Covid 19 it demonstrates a clear unscientific politcal bias with data pulled out of thin air.
It would be nice if it was a true and trusted source but I think they are just another tech company with their own agenda: https://www.allsides.com/blog/wikipedia-biased
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Just a heads up. WebMD is not an unbiased resource. They have material relationships with pharma companies. It's part of how they monetize the website.

Search WebMD pharma scandal. You'll get links that unveil their relationship with pharma companies.
My niece and her husband both work for big pharma companies.
These big companies compensate medical rooms and hospitals handsomely to jump onboard with their products.
Money has many languages and unfortunately many of our so called respected institutions can turn a blind eye at a price.
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Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

I Googled webmd.com pharma scandal...just like you suggested. I read the first 5 or 6 postings. Then I went to Wikipedia, and read their article on Webmd and the scandal. I found two articles that said that their editorial staff was separate from their advertising staff. Just like any newspaper or news magazine.

All I could find is that they sold ads on the site, just like any other website not government owned....and mentioned fish oil as a supplement.

I found nothing that would suggest that they are printing lies. And I found (on the limited number of pages I read on their site) none of the language I was talking about that glaringly indicated bias.

That cannot be said for most of what I see linked to here.
No they don't just sell ads on site. They sell sponsored posts. Advertorials disguised as editorials.

Read this: https://www.vox.com/2016/4/5/1135826...stworthy?__c=1

How about this: "A 2013 study found that WebMD received more money from pharmaceutical and device companies than any other medical communication company."

Src: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/v...b-71424db6723e

Also this from same link: "A 2019 study focused just on WebMD’s accuracy in regard to eye diagnoses. That study found the correct diagnosis was in the top three results just 38% of the time."

You may also want to investigate Wikipedia. You can buy services that both "monitor" and edit Wikipedia pages as PR.

Warriors should know these things right?

P.S. "Ghostwriting" for sites like Wikipedia and WebMD is an actual gig. Once you learn what writing gigs are out there - you'll never look at the interwebz the same again. Almost all of it is a "gig". And not vetted all that much.
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I am not defending Claude.

What websites out there have zero possible conflicts of interest based off funding sources.

It’s only fair play
Probably none.
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I just did a little simple math.

As of yesterday, the 7 day running daily average of Covid deaths (In the US) is 1,969 a day.

As of today, there are 333,347,223 humans living in the US, if you include every man, woman, and child.

And as of today there have been a little over 670,000 deaths attributed to Covid.

So.....that means that one person in every 497 has died from Covid in the US. Essentially in the last 18 months.

Anyway, enjoy your day.


Added later; Our local hospital serves a population of 17,000. A few minutes ago, we heard from my sister-in-law that works at the hospital that this past week they had three people die from Covid. Two were in their 20s, and one was in their 40s.

I know that's just a very local bit of news, and not statistically significant, but I thought I'd pass it on.


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FDA won't approve the Pfizer booster for ages 16 and up to age 65, based on not enough information at this time, or it needs more testing.

With no doubt the other two popular options also going the same way.

So unless you are over 65, you either get two jabs which should protect you from the fl,...virus for a few months, and then who knows.

You either go to another more liberal country, or consider other effective options?


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Biden dealt a blow as FDA votes against Pfizer booster shots - YouTube

FDA won't approve the Pfizer booster for ages 16 and up to age 65, based on not enough information at this time, or it needs more testing.

With no doubt the other two popular options also going the same way.

So unless you are over 65, you either get two jabs which should protect you from the fl,...virus for a few months, and then who knows.

You either go to another more liberal country, or consider other effective options?


My friend what difference does that make if AntiVaxxers are also anti maskers and would rather take Horse Medicine anyway. And speaking of the anti's there are less and less of them every day. Covid loves them.

https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/...e-covid-deaths
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My friend what difference does that make if AntiVaxxers are also anti maskers and would rather take Horse Medicine anyway. And speaking of the anti's there are less and less of them every day. Covid loves them.
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Actually more and more people are getting vaccinated every day.

And the horse medicine has been used in hundreds of millions of humans with no reports s side effects. When given by a doctor in a recommended does the way joe rogan took it.

It’s the media telling people that it is a horse deworming medicine they can get at retail stores that supply over the counter animal supplies.
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Actually more and more people are getting vaccinated every day.

And the horse medicine has been used in hundreds of millions of humans with no reports s side effects. When given by a doctor in a recommended does the way joe rogan took it.

It’s the media telling people that it is a horse deworming medicine they can get at retail stores that supply over the counter animal supplies.
Thanks Odahh, yeah the fact ,...checking sites, make it sound terrible, (Ivermectin) which is an understatement when a comparison is made. Even though it has been used for decades, and after being administered to 2 billion, people only two died, and they had co-morbidity.

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Thanks Odahh, yeah the fact ,...checking sites, make it sound terrible, (Ivermectin) which is an understatement when a comparison is made. Even though it has been used for decades, and after being administered to 2 billion, people only two died, and they had co-morbidity.
There are a number of medications used on both humans and animals. But the fda has different approvals. Based off criteria I have never looked into. There is a safety risk when humans take the medications manufactured for animals.

But people have different risk tolerances humans have to create their own selection pressures. So allowing stupid people who make bad decisions to end their lives. Proves to be a benefit for the long term of humanity. Make things to safe for to long . Eventually you give people a chance to group together and find a way to end their lives at once by bad choices
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Actually more and more people are getting vaccinated every day.

And the horse medicine has been used in hundreds of millions of humans with no reports s side effects. When given by a doctor in a recommended does the way joe rogan took it.

It’s the media telling people that it is a horse deworming medicine they can get at retail stores that supply over the counter animal supplies.

Not for COVID....but please plenty on sale at Amazon have at it.
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Not for COVID....but please plenty on sale at Amazon have at it.
I avoid taking medications I tend to get the negative side effects. I got both shots and if I need a booster a year after getting the shots I will get the booster. I currently don’t wear masks where I don’t have to . But here in Massachusetts we have among the highest vaccination rates
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My friend what difference does that make if AntiVaxxers are also anti maskers and would rather take Horse Medicine anyway. And speaking of the anti's there are less and less of them every day. Covid loves them.

https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/...e-covid-deaths
True, when we had a bad flu season in 2019, there were plenty of families,convinced that their family couldn't be decimated by a flu, but after 4000 deaths and 39 per day for two weeks straight realized that they could.

Mass Media .... cherry picks, and then mass generalizes, tiny mortalities as standard..

Google is for propaganda, and GoGoDuck is for research.

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There are a number of medications used on both humans and animals. But the fda has different approvals. Based off criteria I have never looked into. There is a safety risk when humans take the medications manufactured for animals.

But people have different risk tolerances humans have to create their own selection pressures. So allowing stupid people who make bad decisions to end their lives. Proves to be a benefit for the long term of humanity. Make things to safe for to long . Eventually you give people a chance to group together and find a way to end their lives at once by bad choices
If l remember correctly Ivermectin, cures head lice, is very safe, and has minor side affects.

And the rest, couldn't agree more!

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True, when we had a bad flu season in 2019,



If l remember correctly Ivermectin, cures head lice, is very safe, and has minor side affects.

And the rest, couldn't agree more!
I actually don’t care. And I don’t see why the ivermectin thing is such a big topic. Why are we not realign against vitamin IV drips or the other things someone as rich a joe rogan did. His wealth made it more likely he would recover faster.
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I actually don’t care. And I don’t see why the ivermectin thing is such a big topic. Why are we not realign against vitamin IV drips or the other things someone as rich a joe rogan did. His wealth made it more likely he would recover faster.
Rogan took several things to fight his Covid infection. He took Ivermectin...but he also had monoclonal antibody treatments. And this has been proven to be highly effective against the Covid virus, if you catch the virus early.

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ahahahhahahahaha:

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What's really funny is that if you get a fake vaccine card...and then you contract covid....the joke's on you.

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What's really funny is that if you get a fake vaccine card...and then you contract covid....the joke's on you.

Nah joke's on all of us. We're all extras in a south park episode gone wrong.


That COVID dude is taking someone else's place in the hospital.



TANSTAAFL, ya?
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The video below from the FDA advisory committee is the best info available on the vaccine.

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I'd like to know what particular actions people who actually own SEO businesses have taken to save their business or if they actually went under. Businesses in Sydney are going under nearly every day because of extended lock-downs and it is effecting SEO and web development businesses

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I'd like to know what particular actions people who actually own SEO businesses have taken to save their business or if they actually went under. Businesses in Sydney are going under nearly every day because of extended lock-downs and it is effecting SEO and web development businesses

You just need to make a Pandemic Pivot my friend.

So many people are being forced to side hustle and create additional income streams. Many need SEO. You need to shift your target audience a bit.

This could actually become a very profitable time if you focus on helping those that are trying to create a new business online.
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Like you Claude I nearly always went to Wikipedia for an accurate description of the truth. I did find many of their articles carried quite a bias and not always presented the true science let alone the truth. If you have a look at Ivermectin on Wiki concerning Covid 19 it demonstrates a clear unscientific politcal bias with data pulled out of thin air.
It would be nice if it was a true and trusted source but I think they are just another tech company with their own agenda: https://www.allsides.com/blog/wikipedia-biased



Wikipedia? Are you serious? You do realize that accredited schools including colleges and universities do not allow the use of Wikipedia as any kind of "source", right?



Read about India and Ivermectin. I'm actually appalled that two treatments for Covid, that showed huge promise, have been demonized by the press ( Edited by Moderator.) Aren't we looking for answers to this virus? Isn't the idea being find something that works well to take it away and keep it away? Then why are we demonizing treatments that work??





The New York Times reported India’s colossal drop in COVID cases was unexplainable, while the BBC declared that Kerala’s rise was also a mystery. While new cases of COVID in Uttar Pradesh are rare as million-dollar lottery tickets, in Kerala, a tiny state located in southern India, new daily cases are the same as the United States, nearly one case per thousand.


So what could Kerala be doing wrong?
Hint: Over-reliance on vaccines and under-reliance on Ivermectin.



Uttar Pradesh led India in its use and has done even better than Delhi because they use Ivermectin early and preventatively.


https://www.thedesertreview.com/opin...1ae87887a.html


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Illinois family blames unvaccinated in obituary after vaccinated woman dies from COVID-19

Isn't this proof that the vaccine isn't working? Because if the woman was vaccinated, how could the "unvaccinated" harm her?

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Why do you need to 'prove' anything? That someone died of a 'breakthrough' case is not proof the vaccines don't work - just evidence that unvaccinated people pose a risk to everyone else.

I think it's sad this woman's family used her obituary to make her life all about her death.

This woman did not contract a breakthrough case from another vaccinated person....but from an UNvaccinated person. Maybe that's a good argument for avoiding contact with anyone not vaccinated? Maybe that's an argument for requiring vaccinations to enter a restaurant or workplace or entertainment venue?

Maybe 'my right to choose' takes second place to 'my right to be safe from the unvaccinated'....?

Point - you could draw all sorts of conclusions from a story like this one....but what purpose does it serve?

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This woman did not contract a breakthrough case from another vaccinated person....but from an UNvaccinated person. Maybe that's a good argument for avoiding contact with anyone not vaccinated? Maybe that's an argument for requiring vaccinations to enter a restaurant or workplace or entertainment venue?



You have absolutely no way of knowing this. Vaccinated people have, indeed, passed the virus on to others.



The CDC says this. You will notice I linked straight to their Government website.

Fully vaccinated people with Delta variant breakthrough infections can spread the virus to others.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...%20to%20others.

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Illinois family blames unvaccinated in obituary after vaccinated woman dies from COVID-19

Isn't this proof that the vaccine isn't working? Because if the woman was vaccinated, how could the "unvaccinated" harm her?
Agreed, the vacced are blaming the unvacced, even though either can get Covid and pass it on, since MSM, keep blaming, shaming and trashing the unvacced, as the scapegoat for all of their problems.

Even though India has put Ivermectin on its must use Covid list, even though several countries say that Delta is no worse than the flu.

And the fear porn and the jabbed publically saying that anyone who doesn't want it, are misinformed, irrational and stupid, is glowing in my State.

And hundreds of doctors, globally have studied all RNA vaccines, and found, that the entire program needs to stop immediately.

But two years of brainwashing works, and unfortunately works really well, my brother with his career dangling by a thread, is shooting up on anything and is eager for the booster, while my Mother, same deal, 2 years of listienng to crap on tv, newspaper and radio and stuck at home, too scared to step outside, has worked, with one jab and one coming up, with absolutely no way that l can convince her otherwise.

You will never convince the jabbed that they have screwed up here, and most likely just aggravate them, only MSM, (Mass Media) can do that, and they will eventually.

By then they will be way over committed, and the percentage that is left, 10%, hopefully more, that stubbornly refuse, won't be ridiculed anymore by the ones that have committed, and are trying to put more fabric softener in their security blanket.

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Isn't this proof that the vaccine isn't working? Because if the woman was vaccinated, how could the "unvaccinated" harm her?
Absolutely that is not proof the vaccine is not working. Do you understand what a Vaccine does ? Did you know. You can have a flu vaccine and still get the flu ?

Now on a more serious note. The thread is currently open. Hopefully other members of the forum. Who have not participated in this thread will contribute to it. Keep the discussion of politics out of it. If not your posts will either deleted or the thread will be shut down by the Moderators.

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As we can see now coronavirus turned out a real disaster for the whole humanity actually. Well, no doubts, that there was a big amount of people who didn't believe in coronavirus and considered as a biological weapon of china. I believe that this case would be a lesson for those people. Corona is a very dangerous disease which still can't be cured in hundred percent of cases. Only 70-80% of people who caught a corona alive, the rest, unfortunately, died. To my mnd, we should seriously treat coronavirus because it showed us that it doesn't accept any jokes actually. So, be carefu with it and comply with recommendations.
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As we can see now coronavirus turned out a real disaster for the whole humanity actually. Well, no doubts, that there was a big amount of people who didn't believe in coronavirus and considered as a biological weapon of china. I believe that this case would be a lesson for those people. Corona is a very dangerous disease which still can't be cured in hundred percent of cases. Only 70-80% of people who caught a corona alive, the rest, unfortunately, died. To my mnd, we should seriously treat coronavirus because it showed us that it doesn't accept any jokes actually. So, be carefu with it and comply with recommendations.

The death percentage from Covid isn't anywhere near that high. Only Italy and Spain have been anywhere close those numbers (yet still were not as high as your numbers) and that was for a very short time in 2020. Now those countries, along with all the others, are under a 3% fatality rate.


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So what IS your argument? That Covid-19 isn't really all that serious or risky so don't worry about it?

That vaccine may not totally 100% protect you - so don't bother?

Take the vaccine - don't take the vaccine.....up to you. What others do is up to them.


Vaccinated or not, at some point we have to get back to business and back to living our lives in a semblance of normalcy. I've wondered if approving vaccine doses for kids will be the turning point...we'll see.

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So what IS your argument? That Covid-19 isn't really all that serious or risky so don't worry about it?



That vaccine may not totally 100% protect you - so don't bother?


Take the vaccine - don't take the vaccine.....up to you. What others do is up to them.

The reason *I* am not taking the vaccine is because it frightens me. I understand most of it has been squashed by the media but every now and then a story comes through that shows a healthy young person (last person I heard about was 18) dying suddenly and unexpectedly right after getting the vaccine. I understand we're always told "Oh no, it wasn't the vaccine that did it" but most of us have enough intelligence to realize that although a young person can die suddenly, it rarely, if ever happens. Now all of a sudden young, healthy people are just dying. Again, I've always been extremely healthy; I don't "catch" most things and haven't had a single sick symptom since before Covid started. I believe I'm fine and I know for a fact that there hasn't been enough time for them to test the vaccine the way they usually do because it hasn't been tested for "time" the way other medications have. We Americans are usually impatient with the FDA because most things take so long, but there is a reason for that. They want to really be sure that medications not only work but are not harmful.


I still say kudos to those who got a vaccine out to us more quickly than it would have been. People with comorbidities or who are immune compromised probably should make sure to get the vaccine. But trying to force everyone to get it is not a good thing, IMO. I wish more people would "live and let live" and allow other people to do what they believe is best for them instead of trying to convince them to do something they don't want to do.

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As someone with a lot of questions about the vax, COVID, politics, etc. but who decided to get the shot and waiting for the second dose, I have a couple of thoughts. Most of this isn't necessarily directed at you (even though I quoted you) but just something to think about.

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The reason *I* am not taking the vaccine is because it frightens me. I understand most of it has been squashed by the media but every now and then a story comes through that shows a healthy young person (last person I heard about was 18) dying suddenly and unexpectedly right after getting the vaccine.
Did you hear any of the news story about the people that died from COVID? Or the stories about people who were previously antivax who now on their death bed beg people to get the shot?

Isn't dying early from COVID the same end result as dying from the medicine?

I understand we're always told "Oh no, it wasn't the vaccine that did it" but most of us have enough intelligence to realize that although a young person can die suddenly, it rarely, if ever happens. Now all of a sudden young, healthy people are just dying.
There is definitely an organized narrative, in my opinion, between the government, big tech, big pharma, and most of the media that the only way we're going to be saved is the shot and nothing else will work. I don't necessarily believe that. That's not conspiracy theory thinking, that's just questioning the whys.

For example, if what they say is true, vaccinated people should NOT be afraid of the unvaxxed. Period. The people who have gotten the jab will not get sick, go to the hospital, or die (for the most part) because they did the smart thing and got the shot, so they say. Johnny Antivax Smith, the idiot IT guy in the office, shouldn't change that truth if it is the truth. You might can blame the antivaxxed on other things such as full hospitals, but you don't need to protect those who got the jab, but they keep saying you do. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Again, I've always been extremely healthy; I don't "catch" most things and haven't had a single sick symptom since before Covid started. I believe I'm fine
You've said this a few times. I think there is some merit to that. However, you also said
I don't always get a flu shot. Sometimes I do and I've been more inclined to get it lately because my husband is at an age and has some health issues that are considered "comorbidities" and put him at higher risk.
One of the reasons I decided to get the shot besides my own comorbidities, is that I didn't want to negatively impact my family. What if I was an asymptomatic carrier and they got sick and died? I'd never be able to live with myself.

and I know for a fact that there hasn't been enough time for them to test the vaccine the way they usually do because it hasn't been tested for "time" the way other medications have.
I agree, and the politics involved in some things are plain as day.

People with comorbidities or who are immune compromised probably should make sure to get the vaccine. But trying to force everyone to get it is not a good thing, IMO.
I agree. Trying to force vaccines is going to backfire in a big and bad way I'm afraid.

I wish more people would "live and let live" and allow other people to do what they believe is best for them instead of trying to convince them to do something they don't want to do.
A lot of antivaxxers say this, something like my body, my choice when it comes to vaccinations but in other areas of health or other decisions that doesn't apply. If that principle is true for the vaccine, it's true for any number of other areas of life.

My two cents.
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Am I serious about what? read a comment first before you assert your opinion, it does help.



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Wikipedia? Are you serious? You do realize that accredited schools including colleges and universities do not allow the use of Wikipedia as any kind of "source", right?



Read about India and Ivermectin. I'm actually appalled that two treatments for Covid, that showed huge promise, have been demonized by the press ( Edited by Moderator.) Aren't we looking for answers to this virus? Isn't the idea being find something that works well to take it away and keep it away? Then why are we demonizing treatments that work??





The New York Times reported India’s colossal drop in COVID cases was unexplainable, while the BBC declared that Kerala’s rise was also a mystery. While new cases of COVID in Uttar Pradesh are rare as million-dollar lottery tickets, in Kerala, a tiny state located in southern India, new daily cases are the same as the United States, nearly one case per thousand.


So what could Kerala be doing wrong?
Hint: Over-reliance on vaccines and under-reliance on Ivermectin.



Uttar Pradesh led India in its use and has done even better than Delhi because they use Ivermectin early and preventatively.


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Well..........

In the US we are now at 700,000 dead from the Covid virus.

75% of adults in the US have now had at least one shot.

That leaves about 70 million that have not had a vaccine shot. These are just the adults.

There are 258 million adults in the US. (in 2020)

And 2,053 deaths per day as a 7 day running average.

Remember when 2,000 deaths per day was national news? Now, it's not even something most of us think about. Even at the peak, it was about 3,000 deaths per day.

Here's the thing....

That 2,000 deaths per day are now coming from about 25% of the adult population.

So the number of cases per 1,000 unvaccinated is growing. And the number of deaths per 1,000 unvaccinated is growing as well.

Of course, some of the cases are from the vaccinated. But almost none of the deaths are from the vaccinated.

A growing number of deaths from a shrinking number of people.

Anyway, just an update.

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Curious about the test. I recently got tested for the first time. I suppose it was the quick kind because I received the results in a little over an hour, but I overheard the doctor say something about a PCR too. They did swabs in both nostrils. I was surprised they did both sides. Have you been tested? Was it just one nostril or both?

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Curious about the test. I recently got tested for the first time. I suppose it was the quick kind because I received the results in a little over an hour, but I overheard the doctor say something about a PCR too. They did swabs in both nostrils. I was surprised they did both sides. Have you been tested? Was it just one nostril or both?

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Not sure who you are asking. I was never tested. Neither was my wife. We just took stringent precautions, and then got the vaccine.

Neither of us have ever showed symptoms.

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Tellya, I ain't gaht no prahblem with no double swabblin'.

Get 'em in here & safeguard my ass!

Science on the fly beats ignorance on the die.

That is why plenty centennials can't actschwlly even name stuff their ancestahs were slain by like even 100 years ago.

They may have connectivity ishoos, but they don't gaht mumps, measles, nor gallopin' doobydops.

As a saggitarihoss, I am big time up there on freedom.

One proviso: intrisically stoopid freedom is jus' kinda intrinsically stoopid, howe'er free it be.

EVEN IF the vaccine is enslavin' zillions c/o zucchini subterfuge, least'n we all still alive.

The Romans threw their enemies to the lions.

Lightin' fuses is for blowin' stuff togethah.
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Well, there is an approved Malaria vaccine now.

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Tellya, I ain't gaht no prahblem with no double swabblin'.

Get 'em in here & safeguard my ass!

Science on the fly beats ignorance on the die.

That is why plenty centennials can't actschwlly even name stuff their ancestahs were slain by like even 100 years ago.

They may have connectivity ishoos, but they don't gaht mumps, measles, nor gallopin' doobydops.

As a saggitarihoss, I am big time up there on freedom.

One proviso: intrisically stoopid freedom is jus' kinda intrinsically stoopid, howe'er free it be.

EVEN IF the vaccine is enslavin' zillions c/o zucchini subterfuge, least'n we all still alive.

The Romans threw their enemies to the lions.
I know that l will probably get a headache doing this, but speaking from one saggi to another....


Theres Stabbin, jabbin and yappin.

In the west they stab in jab, and in the land with, thos dead, sea, suchy rolls, they jab, yap and splat.

In the lands with thei, evil monkes, they pop with wild horses, instead of jabbing.

With no more stabbin.

Cabbage, gameshows, prizes and Pfises,
will roll the ball, never mind the potholes, that are loomin.

We justs, need to jab, anywhere and everywhere, (spraying is old scho,l) and all will be ok.

And fill in the potholses, while we are munching away.



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We just got a call today from my wife's daughter (my Step Daughter).

She's about 50 years old, and supports her worthless husband and raised her three kids.

She talked to my wife and told her she just got out of the hospital, with Covid.

Of course, she refused to get vaccinated. Of course, she was in the hospital for two weeks. Of course, she almost died.

She didn't tell us until today, because she knew how we felt about her (and her husband's) refusal to get vaccinated. And Why.

I'm glad she's OK. But I'm so angry with her stupidity.

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We just got a call today from my wife's daughter (my Step Daughter).

She's about 50 years old, and supports her worthless husband and raised her three kids.

She talked to my wife and told her she just got out of the hospital, with Covid.

Of course, she refused to get vaccinated. Of course, she was in the hospital for two weeks. Of course, she almost died.

She didn't tell us until today, because she knew how we felt about her (and her husband's) refusal to get vaccinated. And Why.

I'm glad she's OK. But I'm so angry with her stupidity.
I just visited a friend today for the last time. Went into the hospital about 3 weeks ago with Covid and left 3 days ago... unfortunately he went out the back door to the funeral home. He HAD got the shot. He was 34 yrs old.

For every instance you can claim close calls... I have a stack of funerals I have been to in the last few months of those that were "vaccinated" MORE so than those that hadnt. The fear mongering has to stop. The reality is Covid is just a plain out monster. Now that your stupid step daughter is finally amongst the "Immune" you should rejoice. Those that have, or have not had the shot and not had Covid are sweating it... those that have had it and recovered... well, life is a bit simpler.

Sorry to be so blunt but this is just straight up narrative. My Mother in law... 72 yrs old, been vaccinated, and real sick. NOT testing positive for Covid, but they are treating her for Covid, as in she just did the transfusion therapy today. She is NOT in the hospital yet, but probably should be. Bronchitis, Influenza, and Pneumonia numbers are going through the roof and this is how most of the "vaccinated" are diagnosed, but not how they are being treated. Standard Bronchitis therapy has NEVER been a transfusion, until now.

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I just visited a friend today for the last time. Went into the hospital about 3 weeks ago with Covid and left 3 days ago... unfortunately he went out the back door to the funeral home. He HAD got the shot. He was 34 yrs old.

For every instance you can claim close calls... I have a stack of funerals I have been to in the last few months of those that were "vaccinated" MORE so than those that hadnt. The fear mongering has to stop. The reality is Covid is just a plain out monster. Now that your stupid step daughter is finally amongst the "Immune" you should rejoice. Those that have, or have not had the shot and not had Covid are sweating it... those that have had it and recovered... well life a bit simpler.

Sorry to be so blunt but this is just straight up narrative. My Mother in law... 72 yrs old, been vaccinated, and real sick. NOT testing positive for Covid, but they are treating her for Covid, as in she just did the transfusion therapy today. She is NOT in the hospital yet, but probably should be. Bronchitis, Influenza, and Pneumonia numbers are going through the roof and this is how most of the "vaccinated" are diagnosed, but not how they are being treated. Standard Bronchitis therapy has NEVER been a transfusion, until now.
Agreed, people cannot believe that they can die of the flu, and a bad season can decimate a family, Covid and Delta same thing, both are bad and both can take you unawares, and both have similar survival rates, (in the present tense).

Some use worst cases, as confirmation that their jabbing sabbatical, is justified, but we never hear of the magority who get it, get over it quickly and think the flu was worse, (l have talked to several online, who have had Delta and thought the flu was worse.

Similar crap when Covid was starting up, people online where rabboting on about, "if you get it, you will be suffocating in hospital", and it was, mainly bloated misinformation.

The vast majority have mild symptions for a week or two, and the vast majority don't need any jab, since natural herd immunity is superior to that, and considering what is happening in Vermont, USA, (virtually all double jabbed) they should steer clear of that shit!

The masks, lol, wear that, walk into a toilet touch it once before washing and Covid is the least of your problems.

In my State, tne news station keep telling us, "what you need to know, an only the facts" lol, only the properdanda, the facts are on the Israeli News broadcasts, which as you remember were forced to double jab, and a large percentage have had the booster, with another one to follow, for obvious reasons.

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Finland has joined Sweden, Denmark and Norway in either banning or discouraging young adults or teens from getting the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, because of the increased risk of myocarditis — heart inflammation.

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Kyrie Irving. Perfect example

Not that Kyrie needed to be hospitalised but you get the point.

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Of course, she refused to get vaccinated. Of course, she was in the hospital for two weeks. Of course, she almost died.

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The study, published last Tuesday in World Psychology, found that those with a substance use disorder (SUD) — a dependence on marijuana, alcohol, cocaine, opioids and tobacco — were more likely to contract the coronavirus after receiving both of their vaccination shots.
Those without a SUD saw a 3.6 percent rate of breakthrough infections, compared to a 7 percent rate in those with a SUD. At 7.8 percent, those with marijuana use disorder were most at risk for breakthrough infections, the study found.


..."Patients with cannabis use disorder, who were younger and had less comorbidities than the other SUD subtypes, had higher risk for breakthrough infection even after they were matched for adverse socioeconomic determinants of health and comorbid medical conditions with non-SUD patients," the researchers wrote.

"This study is limited to people with ‘substance use disorder’ which is a very small subset of cannabis consumers," Morgan Fox, media relations director for the National Cannabis Industry Association said.

It seems to be the standard - if the 'study' does not have the results YOU want....it's 'limited'

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Saw the post about the marijuana use on reddit this morning. Probably end up on the Popular page. Chose your side and the narrative.
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Curious about the test. I recently got tested for the first time. I suppose it was the quick kind because I received the results in a little over an hour, but I overheard the doctor say something about a PCR too. They did swabs in both nostrils. I was surprised they did both sides. Have you been tested? Was it just one nostril or both?

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Both. To go visit my mom in a nursing home, you get tested first. Only when you pass, you get to go see her. It's both nostrils and it tickles. Even if you are vaccinated. Shit is what it is.
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It's both nostrils and it tickles.
I have a friend who is not antivax but was waiting until more vaccines were available in his country because at the time only AZ was available. His employer gave him the old mandate, jab or swab, and he chose the swab thinking he could just wait until Moderna or Pfizer came. He made it through the first test and said screw it, there is no way I'm doing this every week, so he went ahead with AZ.

I was LOLing at him until they tickled me, and I think I would've made the same choice as he did.

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Kyrie Irving. Perfect example

Not that Kyrie needed to be hospitalized but you get the point.

Reluctantly got a pair of his "kicks" and was already embarrassed because they had no Jordan's in my size that day.
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Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

I have a friend who is not antivax but was waiting until more vaccines were available in his country because at the time only AZ was available. His employer gave him the old mandate, jab or swab, and he chose the swab thinking he could just wait until Moderna or Pfizer came. He made it through the first test and said screw it, there is no way I'm doing this every week, so he went ahead with AZ.

I was LOLing at him until they tickled me, and I think I would've made the same choice as he did.

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Oh ok. Where I am (NY) all the pharmacies seem to have Moderna. And so that's where I went and what I got.
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