Fellow newbie IM in need of some guidance =)

by kj604
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Hello everyone, my name is Kevin and I'm just starting out on my journey as a IMer. For the past 2 month's I have spent countless hours studying in my free time, recently joined a few affiliate networks and now at a point where I feel comfortable enough to get started. Really excited!!

I've chosen to begin my journey in the "dating" niche. I understand that it is a highly competitive niche, but I was also told that it is where a lot of newbies begin because of it's simplicity. Although making lots of money would be great, but I'm more interested in gaining that hands on experience right now.

I'm wondering where would be some good places for me to start? ATM, I am planning to run ppc campaigns with Facebook.com and POF.com.

Some guidance would greatly be appreciated. Thanks in advanced!
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  • Profile picture of the author RobertAxelsen
    Originally Posted by kj604 View Post

    Hello everyone, my name is Kevin and I'm just starting out on my journey as a IMer. For the past 2 month's I have spent countless hours studying in my free time, recently joined a few affiliate networks and now at a point where I feel comfortable enough to get started. Really excited!!
    Glad to hear you're motivated and ready to get started! I wish you good luck, patience, drive and stick-to-it-iveness

    Originally Posted by kj604 View Post

    I've chosen to begin my journey in the "dating" niche. I understand that it is a highly competitive niche, but I was also told that it is where a lot of newbies begin because of it's simplicity. Although making lots of money would be great, but I'm more interested in gaining that hands on experience right now.
    I like the attitude. You'll find that there is seldom such a thing as "quick riches", especially to begin with. You're desire to first and foremost get hands on experience is a great place to start!

    Oh, and don't know much about the dating niche except that it is huge and definitely filled with lots of potential customers if you do it right.

    Originally Posted by kj604 View Post

    I'm wondering where would be some good places for me to start? ATM, I am planning to run ppc campaigns with Facebook.com and POF.com.

    Some guidance would greatly be appreciated. Thanks in advanced!
    You mentioned affiliate networks earlier, and then paid traffic. I am guessing you have some money to invest then, which is good. Make sure you test whatever you are planning to promote first - with smaller amounts of traffic. You don't want to spend it all on something that doesn't make you money.

    If you're not planning to set up a website or your own product, I suggest you at least set up your own squeeze page (same as landing page, opt in page or lead generation page) to capture the email addresses of your visitors and be able to market to them repeatedly.

    Whats your plans on what to promote via (blog, squeeze page, just affiliate links, etc)?

    Feel free to PM me and we can connect via Skype or email.
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    • Profile picture of the author kj604
      Originally Posted by RobertAxelsen View Post

      Whats your plans on what to promote via (blog, squeeze page, just affiliate links, etc)?
      I will be directing them to a landing page before being sent to the offer. But certain about including an opt-in form because I will most likely start with lead generation promotions and I do not want to annoy the prospect by having them enter their email twice. Whats your take on this??


      Originally Posted by RobertAxelsen View Post

      Feel free to PM me and we can connect via Skype or email.
      I will gladly take you up on your offer! =) And I would thank you but apparently I do not have enough post to do so! =(


      Originally Posted by RobertAxelsen View Post

      With free traffic I suggest you start contributing in dating and other forums where your target market is, and include a link in your forum signature. Make sure you read the forum guidelines on signatures etc first.
      I will definitely be looking into that. Thanks Again
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      • Profile picture of the author RobertAxelsen
        Originally Posted by kj604 View Post

        I will be directing them to a landing page before being sent to the offer. But certain about including an opt-in form because I will most likely start with lead generation promotions and I do not want to annoy the prospect by having them enter their email twice. Whats your take on this??
        You could offer something of your own for free when people opt in. Like a short report, a video or an audio file with a quick but useful tip that people will perceive as valuable. At the end of the report/video/audio you can then tell them where to go (affiliate link) to learn more about x topic.

        Follow up with emails where you share more useful tips or highlight different aspects of the affiliate product. You can also send them to more reports/videos or remind them of your initial one and why they should read/look/listen to it.

        Originally Posted by kj604 View Post

        I will gladly take you up on your offer! =) And I would thank you but apparently I do not have enough post to do so! =(
        Sent you a PM.
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    yes you're right. Ur question reflects that you know where you should start and what to do. You need traffic, from that point the question should be answered.
    You can choose paid or free traffic, if you're paid traffic then I think POF will be a much more targeted ad service for you, bcause you're in dating niche. =)
    MAke sure you watch your daily budget and the conversion.

    If I were you, I will start with free traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author RobertAxelsen
      Originally Posted by visimedia View Post

      yes you're right. Ur question reflects that you know where you should start and what to do. You need traffic, from that point the question should be answered.
      You can choose paid or free traffic, if you're paid traffic then I think POF will be a much more targeted ad service for you, bcause you're in dating niche. =)
      MAke sure you watch your daily budget and the conversion.

      If I were you, I will start with free traffic.
      Facebook Ads could also work, as you can target very well with it. Just make sure you bid for 1 interest per campaign to more easily measure the effectiveness of each one. Perhaps also narrow it down with one type of ads for men and one for women etc.

      With free traffic I suggest you start contributing in dating and other forums where your target market is, and include a link in your forum signature. Make sure you read the forum guidelines on signatures etc first.

      You can also go to related blogs and do blog commenting to generate traffic. Fresh post on popular blogs is a good place to start, and you can set up google alerts to be notified when new posts are ready for comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
    Clarity is a HUGE part of IM success. It's so simple when you know it -- and darn difficult when you don't! I owe my mentors a world of thanks for bringing this clarity.

    IM is actually pretty simple: you can sell only one of two things:

    1. Products
    2. Services

    That's it!

    And selling products or services online happens in the same basic way for everyone, no matter what they're selling:

    Traffic > Opt-in page > Autoresponder series (or e-zine) > Sales page

    That's it! It's just that simple. (We IMers tend to overcomplicate things.)

    But no matter what your niche is, or whether you're selling a product or a service, do you know what your business model is?

    A business model is the framework or skeleton of your business. Essentially there are three types of online business models:

    1. Membership-based model

    A membership-based business model allows you to build a community of people (your members) who are as passionate about your subject as you are. Your membership fees can be monthly or annual, but either way, you're building recurring, passive income.

    There are a lot of resources and information out there to help you build a membership-based business if you're interested in doing this.

    2. Product-based model

    Selling products allows you to maximize your time and effort by selling items over and over again. This can be hard goods or it can be information products. Information marketing is it's own business model under the product-based model. Information marketing allows you to take your brain to the bank by creating a product ONCE based on what you know and selling it over and over again.

    3. Service-based model

    Selling services can be great for 1) generating quick cash (as in the case of article writing or video producing) and 2) establishing your expertise and getting testimonials.

    (Affiliate marketing falls under both models. You can choose to market either products or services as an affiliate.)

    However, in the long run, your goal should be to offer services at a PREMIUM. The biggest advantage of IM is LEVERAGE. You're able to leverage your time, money and expertise exponentially online. We all have just 24 hours each day. Time to get ruthless about what you expect for those hours you spend in IM each day. Expect more of yourself and more from your business friends, clients, partners, etc.

    What results are you getting for those hours you spend online each day? Ultimately, your services should be at the bottom of your funnel and cost the most since they involve your time and personal attention. (We all have a limited amount of time each day.)

    The fun (and confusion) comes in with all of the endless mix-and-match possibilities of the above models. If you're just starting or still struggling to make money, keep it simple:

    Pick just ONE!

    1. Pick ONE niche. (Something you're interested in and know something about.)

    2. Pick ONE target market for your product or service. (Who will buy what you're offering? The more specific you are, the more you narrow it down, the more successful you'll be.)

    3. Pick ONE business model.

    Now that you're clear about what business you're in, FOCUS! (And stop buying any info not related to your niche and target market, period!)

    F -- Follow
    O -- One
    C -- Course
    U -- Until
    S -- Successful

    And remember: build a list, Build a List, BUILD A LIST!

    In IM, it's easy to put the cart before the horse. Take a deep breath, step back and consider what type of business you REALLY want. Don't worry about getting traffic or buying that expensive traffic product until you know 1) what your business model is, 2) what niche you're in and 3) WHO your target market is!

    Successful business people will tell you that MARKETING is more than half the effort that's needed for success anyway. So pick a niche, target market and business model. Then spend most of your time and effort marketing it.

    If you DON'T have a solid plan or system, THAT'S when it's hard. A good system will shave YEARS (and save you big $$$) off of your learning curve

    That's why I recommend investing in at least one good, comprehensive IM course (or mentor who will give you such a system) instead of jumping from one $37 e-book to the next. A lot of people here complain about not being able to make any money. But neither are they willing to invest in their business. (Buying a random bunch of $37 e-books doesn't count.)

    The best thing I ever did was invest in a comprehensive IM course aimed at REAL business owners, not just other IM wannabes. Yes it was $1500. (It's no longer available.) But it was truly some of the best A-Z IM info I ever bought. Everything else I've learned (from the $37 e-books) since has simply been plugged into this system.

    Get a solid plan or system and then work the plan!

    Hope this helps!

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    • Profile picture of the author kj604
      Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

      F -- Follow
      O -- One
      C -- Course
      U -- Until
      S -- Successful
      Thank you so much taking the time to read and reply to my thread. Like RobertAxelsen "One of the most "to the point" and value-packed posts I've seen on this forum"
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  • Profile picture of the author RobertAxelsen
    Thanks for sharing all that great advice, Nightengale. One of the most "to the point" and value-packed posts I've seen on this forum in a long while!

    @kj604: Embrace everything Nightengale just wrote, then follow her suggestion (F.O.C.U.S.) and get yourself a great course/mentor (if you haven't already) and stick with the plan
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