[Advice] Clients planning to Sue...

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Hello there Warriors!

Ok,
as a Newbie, I found a client who wanted a social media service done for him i.e of random twitter followers
he promised to pay me $100 for every 100,000 followers I delivered(upto 1 million), and I was happy for that deal as a newbie

He seemed as a lier and manipulative at times,but I proceeded to deliver the followers.So I completed the service for the first 100,000 followers with a very minute unfollow rate, but he refused to PAY for 2 Weeks

Since he refused to pay, I decided to remove the followers..so that everything ends well

So he decides to blackmail me and I quote;
Now I see what's going on. You are removing the followers if more followers are removed or if I'm not at 1M followers by the beginning of December I will sue you for slander of character.

I am from Kenya and my client is from USA..I dont even understand a sue for slander of character mean?:confused:

I am a young boy with good behaviour, why should I be sued for not being paid my dues?

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  • Profile picture of the author btyiw
    First, US courts have no jurisdiction in Kenya so he cannot file a lawsuit against you.

    Second, he has no case based on what you're saying. I would remove the remainder of the followers and tell him to proceed with the lawsuit. I'm 99.99% sure he won't do anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
      Originally Posted by btyiw View Post

      First, US courts have no jurisdiction in Kenya so he cannot file a lawsuit against you.

      Second, he has no case based on what you're saying. I would remove the remainder of the followers and tell him to proceed with the lawsuit. I'm 99.99% sure he won't do anything.
      Thank you so much for the advice btyiw

      Are you very sure that he cant sue me ,because he seems to be from a rich family
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      • Profile picture of the author btyiw
        Originally Posted by PrestonSr View Post

        Thank you so much for the advice btyiw

        Are you very sure that he cant sue me ,because he seems to be from a rich family
        I'm willing to bet my life on it. Just because his family has money doesn't mean they will pursue a case over $100 and especially if the service provider is located outside of the USA. If he didn't pay for the services then remove all the twitter followers.
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    • Profile picture of the author coolidge effect
      Originally Posted by btyiw View Post

      First, US courts have no jurisdiction in Kenya so he cannot file a lawsuit against you.

      Second, he has no case based on what you're saying. I would remove the remainder of the followers and tell him to proceed with the lawsuit. I'm 99.99% sure he won't do anything.
      This is a very important part. I doubt anyone would sue for $100 dollars, especially if need an international law lawyer. I would remove all the twitter followers. However, I am not an attorney.
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  • Profile picture of the author peytonk
    Hey PrestonSr, my advice to you is to just give the guy his followers and try to avoid legal action. You're way better off just giving the guy what he wants and having to live with not being paid than risk getting into legal trouble.

    There are some really cruel people out there on the internet, and having to deal with them is sometimes just part of IM. Give him the followers he wants, and politely ask him for a prompt payment. Sorry to hear about that, that's a tough situation!
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    • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
      Originally Posted by peytonk View Post

      Hey PrestonSr, my advice to you is to just give the guy his followers and try to avoid legal action. You're way better off just giving the guy what he wants and having to live with not being paid than risk getting into legal trouble.

      There are some really cruel people out there on the internet, and having to deal with them is sometimes just part of IM. Give him the followers he wants, and politely ask him for a prompt payment. Sorry to hear about that, that's a tough situation!
      Thank you so much for the advice..Peytonk
      I think I should agree with you, better lose the money than get into an legal battle
      I have messaged the client back saying I will stop any deliberate unfollows


      IM can truly be challenging, and I was almost thinking of quiting
      I am sure I have learnt a lesson from todays issue
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Do NOT do anything else to this person's account - do not add or remove followers. Removing the followers was not a good idea but it's done so let it go.

      He's threatening but isn't going to sue you - and if you are indeed "a young boy" he couldn't hold you responsible anyway.

      Block all communications from him - and move on.
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      • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Do NOT do anything else to this person's account - do not add or remove followers. Removing the followers was not a good idea but it's done so let it go.

        He's threatening but isn't going to sue you - and if you are indeed "a young boy" he couldn't hold you responsible anyway.

        Block all communications from him - and move on.
        Thank you so much for the help
        Actually I am a young man, 20 yr old
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Just cut communications with him. He can't and won't sue someone in Kenya. He was a deadbeat and didn't pay for the job, so where's the slander? There isn't any. Just move on and don't deal with him any longer.
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    • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Just cut communications with him. He can't and won't sue someone in Kenya. He was a deadbeat and didn't pay for the job, so where's the slander? There isn't any. Just move on and don't deal with him any longer.
      Thank you too

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      • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
        PrestonSr,

        The guy's an idiot - don't waste any more time on him.

        I'm not a lawyer but this looks like a simple contractual dispute about provision of services vs. non-payment. The guy obviously has no idea what slander means.

        Moving on, if you offer cheap and (what a lot of people consider) greyhat/blackhat services you get a lot of cheap and nasty customers.

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      • Profile picture of the author bt
        Sounds to me like he Is trying to scare you. He can't be to smart threatening to sue you over a measly 100.00 Don't let It bother you, just cut all ties with him and move on.
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    • Profile picture of the author whland
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Just cut communications with him. He can't and won't sue someone in Kenya. He was a deadbeat and didn't pay for the job, so where's the slander? There isn't any. Just move on and don't deal with him any longer.
      Agreed. I don't think he'll go after you. I wouldn't give anymore followers or even contact him anymore.

      Best wishes.

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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    Just a random question: Were these followers actual people or lots of bots/fake profiles?
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    • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
      Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre View Post

      Just a random question: Were these followers actual people or lots of bots/fake profiles?
      These are random followers but I usually tell my clients this before getting into any deal
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      • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
        Originally Posted by PrestonSr View Post

        These are random followers but I usually tell my clients this before getting into any deal
        But were they real people or bots? Random followers could be either.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vimal Gobin
    1. To sue, he'll have to come to Kenya.

    2. If he's from a rich family, why isn't he paying for the service you provided?

    Tell him that he can either pay the $600 for 1,000,000 followers, or if he really wants to sue, there is a deal on Expedia for a Roundtrip (US – Kenya – US) starting from just $1,100 (just the flight, no hotel booking!). And we're not talking about the attorney fees and the times he will have to come back when the case will be postponed for 2 - 24 weeks.

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    • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
      Originally Posted by Vimal Gobin View Post

      1. To sue, he'll have to come to Kenya.

      2. If he's from a rich family, why isn't he paying for the service you provided?

      Tell him that he can either pay the $600 for 1,000,000 followers, or if he really wants to sue, there is a deal on Expedia for a Roundtrip (US - Kenya - US) starting from just $1,100 (just the flight, no hotel booking!). And we're not talking about the attorney fees and the times he will have to come back when the case will be postponed for 2 - 24 weeks.

      2. He is just a manipulative person from my point of view

      Thank you for the advice
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      • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
        Originally Posted by peytonk View Post

        Hey PrestonSr, my advice to you is to just give the guy his followers and try to avoid legal action. You're way better off just giving the guy what he wants and having to live with not being paid than risk getting into legal trouble.

        There are some really cruel people out there on the internet, and having to deal with them is sometimes just part of IM. Give him the followers he wants, and politely ask him for a prompt payment. Sorry to hear about that, that's a tough situation!
        :rolleyes: You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
        Originally Posted by btyiw View Post

        I'm willing to bet my life on it. Just because his family has money doesn't mean they will pursue a case over $100 and especially if the service provider is located outside of the USA. If he didn't pay for the services then remove all the twitter followers.
        This. Preston, he CANNOT sue you. Kenya does not recognize or enforce the U.S. court system, and he has NO leverage at all. None. Even if Kenya did enforce U.S. law, no one is going to sue over $100. Even if he was dumb enough to try, he can't sue for "slander of character". To be completely honest, he sounds like he is either an idiot or a 10-year old kid with no idea what he's doing.

        The fact that he didn't pay you for services you performed and then threatened you is ridiculous. Tell him to go ahead and sue you (again, because he can't and isn't going to do anything) and remove the rest of his followers.
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        • Profile picture of the author shane_k
          Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre View Post

          But were they real people or bots? Random followers could be either.
          Of course they are not real people and more likely bots or fake accounts.

          Do you really think the OP has influence of 1 million people to the point where he can tell them, "Hey join this dude's twitter account" and all 1 Million will join?

          Even if you bring it down to 100,000. do you think the OP has influence of 100,000 real people?

          The question is not really if these were fake or not but if the person buying the followers knew if they were fake or not?

          If he did and he was fine with fake accounts/bots then there is no problem at all and he should have paid the OP. But if he didn't...

          However, I get the impression that the person buying the followers doesn't know and that is why he is claiming slander.

          Because if you look at it from his perspective (If the buyer thinks these are real accounts) then what he is seeing is people unfollowing him on twitter.

          So if he truly believes they are real people they he is probably thinking that the OP is saying something to them to make them unfollow him, hence the slander claim.

          And hence why I get the impression that this dude doesn't know they are fake accounts and/or bots.
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          • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
            Originally Posted by shane_k View Post

            Of course they are not real people and more likely bots or fake accounts.

            Do you really think the OP has influence of 1 million people to the point where he can tell them, "Hey join this dude's twitter account" and all 1 Million will join?

            Even if you bring it down to 100,000. do you think the OP has influence of 100,000 real people?

            The question is not really if these were fake or not but if the person buying the followers knew if they were fake or not?

            If he did and he was fine with fake accounts/bots then there is no problem at all and he should have paid the OP. But if he didn't...

            However, I get the impression that the person buying the followers doesn't know and that is why he is claiming slander.

            Because if you look at it from his perspective (If the buyer thinks these are real accounts) then what he is seeing is people unfollowing him on twitter.

            So if he truly believes they are real people they he is probably thinking that the OP is saying something to them to make them unfollow him, hence the slander claim.

            And hence why I get the impression that this dude doesn't know they are fake accounts and/or bots.
            Thank you for your judgement, but it is not entirely correct
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            • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
              Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre View Post

              First off, chill with the condescending tone in which you're addressing me.
              Secondly, I don't give a flying 747 "you know what" about this situation. I was asking because if he could generate enough real people (probably around 1,000), I would have been interested in utilizing his services.

              Wow - take a chill pill. I saw NOTHING condescending about his post...take a deep breath, relax, and KCCO.
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              • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
                Originally Posted by eljeffe77 View Post

                Wow - take a chill pill. I saw NOTHING condescending about his post...take a deep breath, relax, and KCCO.
                I don't take pharmaceuticals.
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    • Profile picture of the author vicdublin
      Originally Posted by Vimal Gobin View Post

      1. To sue, he'll have to come to Kenya.

      2. If he's from a rich family, why isn't he paying for the service you provided?

      Tell him that he can either pay the $600 for 1,000,000 followers, or if he really wants to sue, there is a deal on Expedia for a Roundtrip (US - Kenya - US) starting from just $1,100 (just the flight, no hotel booking!). And we're not talking about the attorney fees and the times he will have to come back when the case will be postponed for 2 - 24 weeks.

      ......... .....and the jabs he would need to take for mosquitoes, yellow fever etc.
      just a little addittion for Vimal Gobin.
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by Vimal Gobin View Post

      1. To sue, he'll have to come to Kenya.

      2. If he's from a rich family, why isn't he paying for the service you provided?

      Tell him that he can either pay the $600 for 1,000,000 followers, or if he really wants to sue, there is a deal on Expedia for a Roundtrip (US - Kenya - US) starting from just $1,100 (just the flight, no hotel booking!). And we're not talking about the attorney fees and the times he will have to come back when the case will be postponed for 2 - 24 weeks.

      He should also include affiliate links for the plain tickets and hotel booking. Might as well make a few bucks on some Jacka$$es waste of time

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  • Profile picture of the author WeavingThoughts
    Although I am not 100% sure, but he can't sue you outside USA. And even if he did, he would loose.

    And had he been from a rich family he would have paid you the money and had it done with.

    Just remove all 1m followers and do whatever. He can't do anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
    Wow! Thank you all VERY much for the advice

    My mind is now calm and relaxed
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  • Profile picture of the author peteJ
    I cant see him having any case at all, least of slander. Slander is spreading of lies in attempt to damage a reputation if i remember correctly, not ever sure how that comes into play at all in your situation? I'm willing to bet any amount that if you remove the followers all he will do is send nasty emails, nothing substantial will happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author karlmay1980
    He cant sue you when he didnt pay you for what you delivered, and if anyone should be suing it would be you for him not paying up on what was agreed, even though without a contract and formal proposal that would be hard to win.

    Call his bluff though and tell him to go ahead and send him a counter claim for what you are owed!
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  • Profile picture of the author StingGB
    Ignore him, he won't sue you. He's just trying it on. As has already been said here, he has no jurisdiction in Kenya, or any African country for that matter. In fact if he knows you are just a young lad trying to make a bit of money he's a nasty piece of work as well. Forget him and move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    If I was you I wouldn't be worried about this at all. He's not going to sue you over a $100 deal which he didn't even pay because it would cost him too much to do so and he doesn't have any grounds to sue you anyway especially not for 'slander'. You delivered what he asked for, he didn't pay, you took away the followers and he got annoyed and made silly threats.

    Ignore him from now on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sysbase
    He's not going to sue. Just say goodbye and move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Maui Joe
    a) Your client is a moron
    b) Do not take on clients without contracts
    c) He's not going to sue you
    d) Find other clients
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  • Profile picture of the author sunray
    But how could you remove the followers? With legit followers it's only they who could unfollow.
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    • Profile picture of the author JakeDaly
      And tell the idiot to look up the definition of "slander"
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      • Profile picture of the author Tessa Holmes
        I highly doubt that anybody in US would be dumb enough to sue over $100-300. Suing is too expensive here. If he cannot afford to pay $200-500 for your service, it means he cannot afford to sue as well (Especially in another country) There are just big words that have no ground. His is bluffing - plain and simple.
        You sound like a decent guy. Please try to be over this story as soon as possible and keep moving. Do not get discouraged.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrelk159
    I really don't think he will move to Kenya to sue you that would just be proposterous and besides even if he does move to Kenya he does not know the juristiction and the law there, don't let this discourage you from doing bigger things. Don't waste anymore time with him and learn for next time! Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Get rid of this client right away, and never deal with him ever again. Just supply the followers, and proceed with business as usual.
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    Just wanted to add this:
    There Are Two Sides Of Every Story
    Here we only have one side. Nothing against OP...
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Same advice here: You're in Kenya, he can't touch you. I'd suggest RAISING your prices to avoid people like that as well as "tire kickers" who will just waste your time. You're a professional with an in-demand set of skills. Don't waste any more time, energy, emotion or thought on this twit. And good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
      Originally Posted by jadesource View Post

      Exactly! It's not slander. If anything it's breach of contract but he didn't pay, so he invalidated the contract first.
      Originally Posted by FreeMeal View Post

      I don't understand why he thinks Slander is an appropriate grounds to sue in this case? Who's been slandered exactly?
      Originally Posted by Bewley View Post

      Threatening violence or actual bodily harm is hardly professional & highly criminal - way to go dude...NOT!
      Originally Posted by jadesource View Post

      I agree just cut communications with him.
      Plus Slander is means you go on twitter and say something damaging about him. Or anywhere. Did you go anywhere and bad mouth him or his business?

      For him to sue he has to get back something that is worth his while. Lots of people say "I'll sue!!!" just to sound tough.

      If you calculate the legal fees, the costs of FLYING to Kenya, and finding you, and hoping to get even a court to agree that he is right, then he cannot just get money out of you.

      The minimum this sounds like for him to sue you is about $5-10,000. If he's willing to spend that instead of pay you, I'd be surprised.

      But he is trying to scare you. Remember, he's the one that didn't pay you.

      And I've known lots of little rich kids who threaten to sue.

      AND suing anyone is a two step process.
      First they have to win the lawsuit!
      If that happens, they don't just come for the money and take your house.
      They have to figure out how to get you to pay.

      Sorry to get long winded, he's just being an a#$%sshole. You did the work in good faith. He didn't pay.

      Mark
      Originally Posted by Jensha View Post

      The last time a client threatened me like that because of a misunderstanding, I just told him as well to "f*ck off" and I'm gonna send someone to rip his ass out while giving the IP address he was using at that time. I got friends who can do that, surprisingly it's possible. He didn't reply anymore. Why not try that, it might work on you too.
      Originally Posted by cypherslock View Post

      Same advice here: You're in Kenya, he can't touch you. I'd suggest RAISING your prices to avoid people like that as well as "tire kickers" who will just waste your time. You're a professional with an in-demand set of skills. Don't waste any more time, energy, emotion or thought on this twit. And good luck!
      Thanks once again guys

      I cut all communication with that manipulative "suer"
      Restored a percentage of the followers

      And out of all this, I received honest paying persons..Thank you very much Sean

      I am happy
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      Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre View Post

      So far, I can vouch for the OP that he's legit. I paid him to deliver on 2,000 followers just to test out his services and he got me an added 2,500 in less than 24 hours. So far, so good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jensha
    The last time a client threatened me like that because of a misunderstanding, I just told him as well to "f*ck off" and I'm gonna send someone to rip his ass out while giving the IP address he was using at that time. I got friends who can do that, surprisingly it's possible. He didn't reply anymore. Why not try that, it might work on you too.
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      Originally Posted by Jensha View Post

      The last time a client threatened me like that because of a misunderstanding, I just told him as well to "f*ck off" and I'm gonna send someone to rip his ass out while giving the IP address he was using at that time. I got friends who can do that, surprisingly it's possible. He didn't reply anymore. Why not try that, it might work on you too.
      Threatening violence or actual bodily harm is hardly professional & highly criminal - way to go dude...NOT!
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      • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
        Originally Posted by Bewley View Post

        Threatening violence or actual bodily harm is hardly professional & highly criminal - way to go dude...NOT!
        LOL. People try to play big and bad all the time in business, threatening bodily harm. One guy threatened via Skype to send "his people" over to where I live...until I showed him a 75-round drum to my AK-47. Besides, I browse the net anonymously so the guy thought I lived on another coast. lol
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Jensha View Post

      The last time a client threatened me like that because of a misunderstanding, I just told him as well to "f*ck off" and I'm gonna send someone to rip his ass out while giving the IP address he was using at that time. I got friends who can do that, surprisingly it's possible. He didn't reply anymore. Why not try that, it might work on you too.
      That's against the law. AND, finding the location with an IP address is NOT reliably possible! Unless they have a LONG lease and you check the right way at the right time, or they have a fixed IP that you check in the right way, you may end up ELSEWHERE!

      ANYWAY, WAY TO GO! He could conceivably have the police knocking down YOUR door!

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  • Profile picture of the author jadesource
    I agree just cut communications with him.
    Plus Slander is means you go on twitter and say something damaging about him. Or anywhere. Did you go anywhere and bad mouth him or his business?

    For him to sue he has to get back something that is worth his while. Lots of people say "I'll sue!!!" just to sound tough.

    If you calculate the legal fees, the costs of FLYING to Kenya, and finding you, and hoping to get even a court to agree that he is right, then he cannot just get money out of you.

    The minimum this sounds like for him to sue you is about $5-10,000. If he's willing to spend that instead of pay you, I'd be surprised.

    But he is trying to scare you. Remember, he's the one that didn't pay you.

    And I've known lots of little rich kids who threaten to sue.

    AND suing anyone is a two step process.
    First they have to win the lawsuit!
    If that happens, they don't just come for the money and take your house.
    They have to figure out how to get you to pay.

    Sorry to get long winded, he's just being an a#$%sshole. You did the work in good faith. He didn't pay.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author FreeMeal
    I don't understand why he thinks Slander is an appropriate grounds to sue in this case? Who's been slandered exactly?
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    • Profile picture of the author jadesource
      Originally Posted by FreeMeal View Post

      I don't understand why he thinks Slander is an appropriate grounds to sue in this case? Who's been slandered exactly?
      Exactly! It's not slander. If anything it's breach of contract but he didn't pay, so he invalidated the contract first.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Lengley
    Originally Posted by PrestonSr View Post


    I am from Kenya and my client is from USA..I dont even understand a sue for slander of character mean?:confused:
    This line made me laugh... I am also like you. I also don't know how many kinds of sues are there.
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  • Profile picture of the author manicmethods
    First of all, welcome to IM! The wonderful world of IM... This may be your first negative encounter but I doubt it'll be your last.

    My thoughts are that your clients is aware of you being in Kenya and being young and is playing on that with scare tactics.

    I would just stop doing everything you're doing, cease communication with the client and move on.

    From the sounds of it, they are entirely in the wrong so you've nothing to worry about.

    Don't be disheartened by this though. We all meet people like this on the way!
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by PrestonSr View Post

    Hello there Warriors!

    Ok,
    as a Newbie, I found a client who wanted a social media service done for him i.e of random twitter followers
    he promised to pay me $100 for every 100,000 followers I delivered(upto 1 million), and I was happy for that deal as a newbie

    He seemed as a lier and manipulative at times,but I proceeded to deliver the followers.So I completed the service for the first 100,000 followers with a very minute unfollow rate, but he refused to PAY for 2 Weeks

    Since he refused to pay, I decided to remove the followers..so that everything ends well

    So he decides to blackmail me and I quote;
    Now I see what's going on. You are removing the followers if more followers are removed or if I'm not at 1M followers by the beginning of December I will sue you for slander of character.

    I am from Kenya and my client is from USA..I dont even understand a sue for slander of character mean?:confused:

    I am a young boy with good behaviour, why should I be sued for not being paid my dues?

    Regards
    The guy is an IDIOT! Slander is MALICIOUS oral defamation. You didn't een commit LIBEL, which is what MIGHT have been claimed.

    I don't believe that ***HE*** can sue you for any such thing, and the jurisdiction would be limited. THAT would mean a FULL COURT CASE! And that would cost FAR more than a victory would bring, and he would likely lose.

    I should say I am not a lawyer, but I doubt anything would come of it. BESIDES, YOU could conceivably sue for breach of contract, though YOU apparently didn't act in good faith.

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
      Agree with all the people who said let him have his followers and move on. Its just not worth begin upset and worried. He will leave you alone and you can be at peace. Remember it is not you who did anything wrong. This person will face God all by himself. Thats what's scarey IMHO. So you don't do anything like take the followers back, all that, or any revenge that is going to happen to him somewhere down the line for bad behavior anyway.

      You just keep doing what you know is right and then you will always be glad right?

      We always give refunds too when people demand them just saves a lot of headaches. People can just go bizerk over nothing and they say crazy stuff when they don't get what they want.
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  • Original Poster,

    Did your customer know in advance that those 1,000,000 followers were not real people, but in fact bots and/or fake accounts?

    Was he aware he was paying for bot/fake accounts, or did he think he was paying for real human followers?
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    • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      Original Poster,

      Did your customer know in advance that those 1,000,000 followers were not real people, but in fact bots and/or fake accounts?

      Was he aware he was paying for bot/fake accounts, or did he think he was paying for real human followers?
      Hello,

      Yeah I explained to him before and an article such as this will try to explain why people buy fake followers..I guess just to look established
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  • Profile picture of the author dave147
    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post


    I hate it when you get psychotic people like this who believe they are right. Sociopaths actually. It's one reason I stay away from face to face/offline marketing.
    That's interesting You must have had a few bad experiences face to face?
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerlee2
    "sue you for slander of character" - haha. He just knows that you are a newbie and will get scared when he threatens to sue. Your best bet is to try to negotiate a deal with him so you can at least get some money out of it. If not, just move on and break any contact with him.
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  • Profile picture of the author Confined To Life
    This guy's all chat. He won't sue you. I would do the same thing if he didn't pay me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    I'd tell him to go pound salt and then send him the link to an Expedia round trip flight to your country. Also, remove ALL followers you added...
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    Call his bluff. That nickle and dime bum couldn't honor his deal with you and now he is threatening you with hot air. You are in Kenya and he is in the US, there is nothing he can do.

    Proceed and remove his followers.

    Take care and thanks for sharing your story.
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  • Profile picture of the author zxboss
    Brother, he's just trying to scare you because he knows that you seem vulnerable from your personality and messages. I know 100% that he will not sue you & you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
    He is taking advantage of you.
    If i was you, i would remove all the followers right now and send him a picture of my test***** Funny but true
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  • Profile picture of the author Rough Outline
    What he has done is equivalent to theft, remove all the followers you gave him and ignore what he has to say.
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    • Profile picture of the author catcat
      Hey Preston,

      I would put the battle to rest. No need to send any further messages that will provoke the matter. It's time to move on. File it mentally as garbage and move on with your business. Take the lessons you've learned from this guy and use them positively in your next dealings with clients. Lastly, don't let this experience allow you to get cynical. There are more clients that will appreciate your services than there are deadbeats that don't pay.

      Keep you chin up and concentrate only on success. There's no more time to waste on this. You've got great things to work towards!

      Cathy
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      • Profile picture of the author Leejeong
        Originally Posted by catcat View Post

        Hey Preston,

        I would put the battle to rest. No need to send any further messages that will provoke the matter. It's time to move on. File it mentally as garbage and move on with your business. Take the lessons you've learned from this guy and use them positively in your next dealings with clients. Lastly, don't let this experience allow you to get cynical. There are more clients that will appreciate your services than there are deadbeats that don't pay.

        Keep you chin up and concentrate only on success. There's no more time to waste on this. You've got great things to work towards!

        Cathy
        That's a better way to stop the madness. it wont work at all. But make sure you will unfollow all the followers.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
          Originally Posted by Leejeong View Post

          That's a better way to stop the madness. it wont work at all. But make sure you will unfollow all the followers.

          Holy crap you have to have the busiest Signature file I think I've ever seen...
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  • Profile picture of the author Brenden Clerget
    Drop him like a bad habit and don't look back.
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