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12 years ago

First, US courts have no jurisdiction in Kenya so he cannot file a lawsuit against you.

Second, he has no case based on what you're saying. I would remove the remainder of the followers and tell him to proceed with the lawsuit. I'm 99.99% sure he won't do anything.

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PrestonSr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by btyiw

First, US courts have no jurisdiction in Kenya so he cannot file a lawsuit against you.

Second, he has no case based on what you're saying. I would remove the remainder of the followers and tell him to proceed with the lawsuit. I'm 99.99% sure he won't do anything.

Thank you so much for the advice btyiw

Are you very sure that he cant sue me ,because he seems to be from a rich family

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btyiw 12 years ago

Originally Posted by PrestonSr

Thank you so much for the advice btyiw

Are you very sure that he cant sue me ,because he seems to be from a rich family

I'm willing to bet my life on it. Just because his family has money doesn't mean they will pursue a case over $100 and especially if the service provider is located outside of the USA. If he didn't pay for the services then remove all the twitter followers.
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coolidge effect

12 years ago

Originally Posted by btyiw

First, US courts have no jurisdiction in Kenya so he cannot file a lawsuit against you.

Second, he has no case based on what you're saying. I would remove the remainder of the followers and tell him to proceed with the lawsuit. I'm 99.99% sure he won't do anything.

This is a very important part. I doubt anyone would sue for $100 dollars, especially if need an international law lawyer. I would remove all the twitter followers. However, I am not an attorney.

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peytonk

12 years ago

Hey PrestonSr, my advice to you is to just give the guy his followers and try to avoid legal action. You're way better off just giving the guy what he wants and having to live with not being paid than risk getting into legal trouble.

There are some really cruel people out there on the internet, and having to deal with them is sometimes just part of IM. Give him the followers he wants, and politely ask him for a prompt payment. Sorry to hear about that, that's a tough situation!

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PrestonSr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by peytonk

Hey PrestonSr, my advice to you is to just give the guy his followers and try to avoid legal action. You're way better off just giving the guy what he wants and having to live with not being paid than risk getting into legal trouble.

There are some really cruel people out there on the internet, and having to deal with them is sometimes just part of IM. Give him the followers he wants, and politely ask him for a prompt payment. Sorry to hear about that, that's a tough situation!

Thank you so much for the advice..Peytonk
I think I should agree with you, better lose the money than get into an legal battle
I have messaged the client back saying I will stop any deliberate unfollows

IM can truly be challenging, and I was almost thinking of quiting

I am sure I have learnt a lesson from todays issue

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Kay King

12 years ago

Do NOT do anything else to this person's account - do not add or remove followers. Removing the followers was not a good idea but it's done so let it go.

He's threatening but isn't going to sue you - and if you are indeed "a young boy" he couldn't hold you responsible anyway.

Block all communications from him - and move on.

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PrestonSr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Do NOT do anything else to this person's account - do not add or remove followers. Removing the followers was not a good idea but it's done so let it go.

He's threatening but isn't going to sue you - and if you are indeed "a young boy" he couldn't hold you responsible anyway.

Block all communications from him - and move on.

Thank you so much for the help
Actually I am a young man, 20 yr old

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Just cut communications with him. He can't and won't sue someone in Kenya. He was a deadbeat and didn't pay for the job, so where's the slander? There isn't any. Just move on and don't deal with him any longer.

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PrestonSr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Just cut communications with him. He can't and won't sue someone in Kenya. He was a deadbeat and didn't pay for the job, so where's the slander? There isn't any. Just move on and don't deal with him any longer.

Thank you too

thank you for the assistance

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Martin Luxton 12 years ago

PrestonSr,

The guy's an idiot - don't waste any more time on him.

I'm not a lawyer but this looks like a simple contractual dispute about provision of services vs. non-payment. The guy obviously has no idea what slander means.

Moving on, if you offer cheap and (what a lot of people consider) greyhat/blackhat services you get a lot of cheap and nasty customers.

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bt 12 years ago

Sounds to me like he Is trying to scare you. He can't be to smart threatening to sue you over a measly 100.00 Don't let It bother you, just cut all ties with him and move on.
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whland

12 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Just cut communications with him. He can't and won't sue someone in Kenya. He was a deadbeat and didn't pay for the job, so where's the slander? There isn't any. Just move on and don't deal with him any longer.

Agreed. I don't think he'll go after you. I wouldn't give anymore followers or even contact him anymore.

Best wishes.

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Young Financier

12 years ago

Just a random question: Were these followers actual people or lots of bots/fake profiles?

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PrestonSr 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre

Just a random question: Were these followers actual people or lots of bots/fake profiles?

These are random followers but I usually tell my clients this before getting into any deal
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- Young Financier 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by PrestonSr
  
  These are random followers but I usually tell my clients this before getting into any deal
  
  But were they real people or bots? Random followers could be either.
  
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Vimal Gobin

12 years ago

1. To sue, he'll have to come to Kenya.

2. If he's from a rich family, why isn't he paying for the service you provided?

Tell him that he can either pay the $600 for 1,000,000 followers, or if he really wants to sue, there is a deal on Expedia for a Roundtrip (US – Kenya – US) starting from just $1,100 (just the flight, no hotel booking!). And we're not talking about the attorney fees and the times he will have to come back when the case will be postponed for 2 - 24 weeks.

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PrestonSr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Vimal Gobin

1. To sue, he'll have to come to Kenya.

2. If he's from a rich family, why isn't he paying for the service you provided?

Tell him that he can either pay the $600 for 1,000,000 followers, or if he really wants to sue, there is a deal on Expedia for a Roundtrip (US - Kenya - US) starting from just $1,100 (just the flight, no hotel booking!). And we're not talking about the attorney fees and the times he will have to come back when the case will be postponed for 2 - 24 weeks.

2. He is just a manipulative person from my point of view

Thank you for the advice

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Cool Hand Luke

12 years ago

Originally Posted by peytonk

Hey PrestonSr, my advice to you is to just give the guy his followers and try to avoid legal action. You're way better off just giving the guy what he wants and having to live with not being paid than risk getting into legal trouble.

There are some really cruel people out there on the internet, and having to deal with them is sometimes just part of IM. Give him the followers he wants, and politely ask him for a prompt payment. Sorry to hear about that, that's a tough situation!

:rolleyes: You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by btyiw

I'm willing to bet my life on it. Just because his family has money doesn't mean they will pursue a case over $100 and especially if the service provider is located outside of the USA. If he didn't pay for the services then remove all the twitter followers.

This. Preston, he CANNOT sue you. Kenya does not recognize or enforce the U.S. court system, and he has NO leverage at all. None. Even if Kenya did enforce U.S. law, no one is going to sue over $100. Even if he was dumb enough to try, he can't sue for "slander of character". To be completely honest, he sounds like he is either an idiot or a 10-year old kid with no idea what he's doing.

The fact that he didn't pay you for services you performed and then threatened you is ridiculous. Tell him to go ahead and sue you (again, because he can't and isn't going to do anything) and remove the rest of his followers.

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shane_k

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre

But were they real people or bots? Random followers could be either.

Of course they are not real people and more likely bots or fake accounts.

Do you really think the OP has influence of 1 million people to the point where he can tell them, "Hey join this dude's twitter account" and all 1 Million will join?

Even if you bring it down to 100,000. do you think the OP has influence of 100,000 real people?

The question is not really if these were fake or not but if the person buying the followers knew if they were fake or not?

If he did and he was fine with fake accounts/bots then there is no problem at all and he should have paid the OP. But if he didn't...

However, I get the impression that the person buying the followers doesn't know and that is why he is claiming slander.

Because if you look at it from his perspective (If the buyer thinks these are real accounts) then what he is seeing is people unfollowing him on twitter.

So if he truly believes they are real people they he is probably thinking that the OP is saying something to them to make them unfollow him, hence the slander claim.

And hence why I get the impression that this dude doesn't know they are fake accounts and/or bots.

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PrestonSr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by shane_k

Of course they are not real people and more likely bots or fake accounts.

Do you really think the OP has influence of 1 million people to the point where he can tell them, "Hey join this dude's twitter account" and all 1 Million will join?

Even if you bring it down to 100,000. do you think the OP has influence of 100,000 real people?

The question is not really if these were fake or not but if the person buying the followers knew if they were fake or not?

If he did and he was fine with fake accounts/bots then there is no problem at all and he should have paid the OP. But if he didn't...

However, I get the impression that the person buying the followers doesn't know and that is why he is claiming slander.

Because if you look at it from his perspective (If the buyer thinks these are real accounts) then what he is seeing is people unfollowing him on twitter.

So if he truly believes they are real people they he is probably thinking that the OP is saying something to them to make them unfollow him, hence the slander claim.

And hence why I get the impression that this dude doesn't know they are fake accounts and/or bots.

Thank you for your judgement, but it is not entirely correct

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12 years ago

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Jeff Lenney

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre

First off, chill with the condescending tone in which you're addressing me.
Secondly, I don't give a flying 747 "you know what" about this situation. I was asking because if he could generate enough real people (probably around 1,000), I would have been interested in utilizing his services.

Wow - take a chill pill. I saw NOTHING condescending about his post...take a deep breath, relax, and KCCO.

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Young Financier 12 years ago

Originally Posted by eljeffe77

Wow - take a chill pill. I saw NOTHING condescending about his post...take a deep breath, relax, and KCCO.

I don't take pharmaceuticals.
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vicdublin

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Vimal Gobin

1. To sue, he'll have to come to Kenya.

2. If he's from a rich family, why isn't he paying for the service you provided?

Tell him that he can either pay the $600 for 1,000,000 followers, or if he really wants to sue, there is a deal on Expedia for a Roundtrip (US - Kenya - US) starting from just $1,100 (just the flight, no hotel booking!). And we're not talking about the attorney fees and the times he will have to come back when the case will be postponed for 2 - 24 weeks.

......... .....and the jabs he would need to take for mosquitoes, yellow fever etc.
just a little addittion for Vimal Gobin.

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agmccall

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Vimal Gobin

1. To sue, he'll have to come to Kenya.

2. If he's from a rich family, why isn't he paying for the service you provided?

Tell him that he can either pay the $600 for 1,000,000 followers, or if he really wants to sue, there is a deal on Expedia for a Roundtrip (US - Kenya - US) starting from just $1,100 (just the flight, no hotel booking!). And we're not talking about the attorney fees and the times he will have to come back when the case will be postponed for 2 - 24 weeks.

He should also include affiliate links for the plain tickets and hotel booking. Might as well make a few bucks on some Jacka$$es waste of time

al

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WeavingThoughts

12 years ago

Although I am not 100% sure, but he can't sue you outside USA. And even if he did, he would loose.

And had he been from a rich family he would have paid you the money and had it done with.

Just remove all 1m followers and do whatever. He can't do anything.

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PrestonSr

12 years ago

Wow! Thank you all VERY much for the advice

My mind is now calm and relaxed

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peteJ

12 years ago

I cant see him having any case at all, least of slander. Slander is spreading of lies in attempt to damage a reputation if i remember correctly, not ever sure how that comes into play at all in your situation? I'm willing to bet any amount that if you remove the followers all he will do is send nasty emails, nothing substantial will happen.

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karlmay1980

12 years ago

He cant sue you when he didnt pay you for what you delivered, and if anyone should be suing it would be you for him not paying up on what was agreed, even though without a contract and formal proposal that would be hard to win.

Call his bluff though and tell him to go ahead and send him a counter claim for what you are owed!

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StingGB

12 years ago

Ignore him, he won't sue you. He's just trying it on. As has already been said here, he has no jurisdiction in Kenya, or any African country for that matter. In fact if he knows you are just a young lad trying to make a bit of money he's a nasty piece of work as well. Forget him and move on.

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Stuart Walker

12 years ago

If I was you I wouldn't be worried about this at all. He's not going to sue you over a $100 deal which he didn't even pay because it would cost him too much to do so and he doesn't have any grounds to sue you anyway especially not for 'slander'. You delivered what he asked for, he didn't pay, you took away the followers and he got annoyed and made silly threats.

Ignore him from now on.

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Sysbase

12 years ago

He's not going to sue. Just say goodbye and move on.

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Maui Joe

12 years ago

a) Your client is a moron
b) Do not take on clients without contracts
c) He's not going to sue you
d) Find other clients

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sunray

12 years ago

But how could you remove the followers? With legit followers it's only they who could unfollow.

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JakeDaly 12 years ago

And tell the idiot to look up the definition of "slander"
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- Tessa Holmes 12 years ago
  
  I highly doubt that anybody in US would be dumb enough to sue over $100-300. Suing is too expensive here. If he cannot afford to pay $200-500 for your service, it means he cannot afford to sue as well (Especially in another country) There are just big words that have no ground. His is bluffing - plain and simple.
  You sound like a decent guy. Please try to be over this story as soon as possible and keep moving. Do not get discouraged.
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mrelk159

12 years ago

I really don't think he will move to Kenya to sue you that would just be proposterous and besides even if he does move to Kenya he does not know the juristiction and the law there, don't let this discourage you from doing bigger things. Don't waste anymore time with him and learn for next time! Good Luck!

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Randall Magwood

12 years ago

Get rid of this client right away, and never deal with him ever again. Just supply the followers, and proceed with business as usual.

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salegurus

12 years ago

Just wanted to add this:
There Are Two Sides Of Every Story
Here we only have one side. Nothing against OP...

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cypherslock

12 years ago

Same advice here: You're in Kenya, he can't touch you. I'd suggest RAISING your prices to avoid people like that as well as "tire kickers" who will just waste your time. You're a professional with an in-demand set of skills. Don't waste any more time, energy, emotion or thought on this twit. And good luck!

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12 years ago

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PrestonSr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jadesource

Exactly! It's not slander. If anything it's breach of contract but he didn't pay, so he invalidated the contract first.

Originally Posted by FreeMeal

I don't understand why he thinks Slander is an appropriate grounds to sue in this case? Who's been slandered exactly?

Originally Posted by Bewley

Threatening violence or actual bodily harm is hardly professional & highly criminal - way to go dude...NOT!

Originally Posted by jadesource

I agree just cut communications with him.
Plus Slander is means you go on twitter and say something damaging about him. Or anywhere. Did you go anywhere and bad mouth him or his business?

For him to sue he has to get back something that is worth his while. Lots of people say "I'll sue!!!" just to sound tough.

If you calculate the legal fees, the costs of FLYING to Kenya, and finding you, and hoping to get even a court to agree that he is right, then he cannot just get money out of you.

The minimum this sounds like for him to sue you is about $5-10,000. If he's willing to spend that instead of pay you, I'd be surprised.

But he is trying to scare you. Remember, he's the one that didn't pay you.

And I've known lots of little rich kids who threaten to sue.

AND suing anyone is a two step process.
First they have to win the lawsuit!
If that happens, they don't just come for the money and take your house.
They have to figure out how to get you to pay.

Sorry to get long winded, he's just being an a#$%sshole. You did the work in good faith. He didn't pay.

Mark

Originally Posted by Jensha

The last time a client threatened me like that because of a misunderstanding, I just told him as well to "f*ck off" and I'm gonna send someone to rip his ass out while giving the IP address he was using at that time. I got friends who can do that, surprisingly it's possible. He didn't reply anymore. Why not try that, it might work on you too.

Originally Posted by cypherslock

Same advice here: You're in Kenya, he can't touch you. I'd suggest RAISING your prices to avoid people like that as well as "tire kickers" who will just waste your time. You're a professional with an in-demand set of skills. Don't waste any more time, energy, emotion or thought on this twit. And good luck!

Thanks once again guys

I cut all communication with that manipulative "suer"
Restored a percentage of the followers

And out of all this, I received honest paying persons..Thank you very much Sean

I am happy
Preston

Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre

So far, I can vouch for the OP that he's legit. I paid him to deliver on 2,000 followers just to test out his services and he got me an added 2,500 in less than 24 hours. So far, so good.

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Jensha

12 years ago

The last time a client threatened me like that because of a misunderstanding, I just told him as well to "f*ck off" and I'm gonna send someone to rip his ass out while giving the IP address he was using at that time. I got friends who can do that, surprisingly it's possible. He didn't reply anymore. Why not try that, it might work on you too.

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Bewley

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Jensha

The last time a client threatened me like that because of a misunderstanding, I just told him as well to "f*ck off" and I'm gonna send someone to rip his ass out while giving the IP address he was using at that time. I got friends who can do that, surprisingly it's possible. He didn't reply anymore. Why not try that, it might work on you too.

Threatening violence or actual bodily harm is hardly professional & highly criminal - way to go dude...NOT!

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Young Financier 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Bewley

Threatening violence or actual bodily harm is hardly professional & highly criminal - way to go dude...NOT!

LOL. People try to play big and bad all the time in business, threatening bodily harm. One guy threatened via Skype to send "his people" over to where I live...until I showed him a 75-round drum to my AK-47. Besides, I browse the net anonymously so the guy thought I lived on another coast. lol
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seasoned

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Jensha

The last time a client threatened me like that because of a misunderstanding, I just told him as well to "f*ck off" and I'm gonna send someone to rip his ass out while giving the IP address he was using at that time. I got friends who can do that, surprisingly it's possible. He didn't reply anymore. Why not try that, it might work on you too.

That's against the law. AND, finding the location with an IP address is NOT reliably possible! Unless they have a LONG lease and you check the right way at the right time, or they have a fixed IP that you check in the right way, you may end up ELSEWHERE!

ANYWAY, WAY TO GO! He could conceivably have the police knocking down YOUR door!

Steve

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jadesource

12 years ago

I agree just cut communications with him.
Plus Slander is means you go on twitter and say something damaging about him. Or anywhere. Did you go anywhere and bad mouth him or his business?

For him to sue he has to get back something that is worth his while. Lots of people say "I'll sue!!!" just to sound tough.

If you calculate the legal fees, the costs of FLYING to Kenya, and finding you, and hoping to get even a court to agree that he is right, then he cannot just get money out of you.

The minimum this sounds like for him to sue you is about $5-10,000. If he's willing to spend that instead of pay you, I'd be surprised.

But he is trying to scare you. Remember, he's the one that didn't pay you.

And I've known lots of little rich kids who threaten to sue.

AND suing anyone is a two step process.
First they have to win the lawsuit!
If that happens, they don't just come for the money and take your house.
They have to figure out how to get you to pay.

Sorry to get long winded, he's just being an a#$%sshole. You did the work in good faith. He didn't pay.

Mark

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FreeMeal

12 years ago

I don't understand why he thinks Slander is an appropriate grounds to sue in this case? Who's been slandered exactly?

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jadesource 12 years ago

Originally Posted by FreeMeal

I don't understand why he thinks Slander is an appropriate grounds to sue in this case? Who's been slandered exactly?

Exactly! It's not slander. If anything it's breach of contract but he didn't pay, so he invalidated the contract first.
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Chris Lengley

12 years ago

Originally Posted by PrestonSr

I am from Kenya and my client is from USA..I dont even understand a sue for slander of character mean?:confused:

This line made me laugh...

I am also like you. I also don't know how many kinds of sues are there.

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manicmethods

12 years ago

First of all, welcome to IM! The wonderful world of IM... This may be your first negative encounter but I doubt it'll be your last.

My thoughts are that your clients is aware of you being in Kenya and being young and is playing on that with scare tactics.

I would just stop doing everything you're doing, cease communication with the client and move on.

From the sounds of it, they are entirely in the wrong so you've nothing to worry about.

Don't be disheartened by this though. We all meet people like this on the way!

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santosantinie 12 years ago

Are you scared? You don't have to. He can't do anything to you. I never heard of a cybercrime law that goes beyond borders. Well, I don't have sufficient knowledge in law, but what I know for now is he tries to scare you.
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- Leejeong 12 years ago
  
  Like they said a while ago, he can do nothing on you. There is no existing international cyber-crime law. And in fact, you are the victim on that case. You have the right to accuse and file a case if necessary 'coz he didn't pay as per your agreement. Anyway do you have contract with him? Maybe that will be your power against him. Too bad, if you don't have.
  
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seasoned

12 years ago

Originally Posted by PrestonSr

Hello there Warriors!

Ok,
as a Newbie, I found a client who wanted a social media service done for him i.e of random twitter followers
he promised to pay me $100 for every 100,000 followers I delivered(upto 1 million), and I was happy for that deal as a newbie

He seemed as a lier and manipulative at times,but I proceeded to deliver the followers.So I completed the service for the first 100,000 followers with a very minute unfollow rate, but he refused to PAY for 2 Weeks

Since he refused to pay, I decided to remove the followers..so that everything ends well

So he decides to blackmail me and I quote;

Now I see what's going on. You are removing the followers if more followers are removed or if I'm not at 1M followers by the beginning of December I will sue you for slander of character.

I am from Kenya and my client is from USA..I dont even understand a sue for slander of character mean?:confused:

I am a young boy with good behaviour, why should I be sued for not being paid my dues?

Regards

The guy is an IDIOT! Slander is MALICIOUS oral defamation. You didn't een commit LIBEL, which is what MIGHT have been claimed.

I don't believe that ***HE*** can sue you for any such thing, and the jurisdiction would be limited. THAT would mean a FULL COURT CASE! And that would cost FAR more than a victory would bring, and he would likely lose.

I should say I am not a lawyer, but I doubt anything would come of it. BESIDES, YOU could conceivably sue for breach of contract, though YOU apparently didn't act in good faith.

Steve

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Claire Koch 12 years ago

Agree with all the people who said let him have his followers and move on. Its just not worth begin upset and worried. He will leave you alone and you can be at peace. Remember it is not you who did anything wrong. This person will face God all by himself. Thats what's scarey IMHO. So you don't do anything like take the followers back, all that, or any revenge that is going to happen to him somewhere down the line for bad behavior anyway.

You just keep doing what you know is right and then you will always be glad right?

We always give refunds too when people demand them just saves a lot of headaches. People can just go bizerk over nothing and they say crazy stuff when they don't get what they want.
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Anonymous Affiliate

12 years ago

Original Poster,

Did your customer know in advance that those 1,000,000 followers were not real people, but in fact bots and/or fake accounts?

Was he aware he was paying for bot/fake accounts, or did he think he was paying for real human followers?

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PrestonSr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate

Original Poster,

Did your customer know in advance that those 1,000,000 followers were not real people, but in fact bots and/or fake accounts?

Was he aware he was paying for bot/fake accounts, or did he think he was paying for real human followers?

Hello,

Yeah I explained to him before and an article such as this will try to explain why people buy fake followers..I guess just to look established

I bought 27,000 Twitter followers - DailyHerald.com

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dave147

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

I hate it when you get psychotic people like this who believe they are right. Sociopaths actually. It's one reason I stay away from face to face/offline marketing.

That's interesting

You must have had a few bad experiences face to face?

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tylerlee2

12 years ago

"sue you for slander of character" - haha. He just knows that you are a newbie and will get scared when he threatens to sue. Your best bet is to try to negotiate a deal with him so you can at least get some money out of it. If not, just move on and break any contact with him.

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Confined To Life

12 years ago

This guy's all chat. He won't sue you. I would do the same thing if he didn't pay me.

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Mike Hill

12 years ago

I'd tell him to go pound salt and then send him the link to an Expedia round trip flight to your country. Also, remove ALL followers you added...

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aizaku

12 years ago

Call his bluff. That nickle and dime bum couldn't honor his deal with you and now he is threatening you with hot air. You are in Kenya and he is in the US, there is nothing he can do.

Proceed and remove his followers.

Take care and thanks for sharing your story.

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zxboss

12 years ago

Brother, he's just trying to scare you because he knows that you seem vulnerable from your personality and messages. I know 100% that he will not sue you & you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
He is taking advantage of you.
If i was you, i would remove all the followers right now and send him a picture of my test*****

Funny but true

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Rough Outline

12 years ago

What he has done is equivalent to theft, remove all the followers you gave him and ignore what he has to say.

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catcat

12 years ago

Hey Preston,

I would put the battle to rest. No need to send any further messages that will provoke the matter. It's time to move on. File it mentally as garbage and move on with your business. Take the lessons you've learned from this guy and use them positively in your next dealings with clients. Lastly, don't let this experience allow you to get cynical. There are more clients that will appreciate your services than there are deadbeats that don't pay.

Keep you chin up and concentrate only on success. There's no more time to waste on this. You've got great things to work towards!

Cathy

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Leejeong

12 years ago

Originally Posted by catcat

Hey Preston,

I would put the battle to rest. No need to send any further messages that will provoke the matter. It's time to move on. File it mentally as garbage and move on with your business. Take the lessons you've learned from this guy and use them positively in your next dealings with clients. Lastly, don't let this experience allow you to get cynical. There are more clients that will appreciate your services than there are deadbeats that don't pay.

Keep you chin up and concentrate only on success. There's no more time to waste on this. You've got great things to work towards!

Cathy

That's a better way to stop the madness. it wont work at all. But make sure you will unfollow all the followers.

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Mike Hill 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Leejeong

That's a better way to stop the madness. it wont work at all. But make sure you will unfollow all the followers.

Holy crap you have to have the busiest Signature file I think I've ever seen...
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Brenden Clerget

12 years ago

Drop him like a bad habit and don't look back.

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