The Most Dangerous Threat to Your Online Marketing Efforts

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We have a great bookstore in my town -- the kind of place you picture in your mind when you think of a great independent bookshop.

It's perfect for browsing, with lots of comfy chairs to relax in. The books are displayed enticingly. There's a little coffee shop so you can relax with an espresso. They get your favorite writers to come in for readings, so there's always a sense of event and excitement.

They do everything right, and they've always had plenty of customers.

But they still closed their doors last year.

No, not for the reasons you might think. It wasn't Amazon that killed them, or the proliferation of free content on the web, or the crappy economy.

They closed the store because they were leasing their big, comfortable building ... and when that lease ran out, their landlord tripled the rent.

Literally overnight, their business model quit working. Revenues simply wouldn't exceed costs. A decision made by another party, one they had no control over, took a wonderful business and destroyed it.

And that's precisely what you risk every day you make your business completely dependent on another company.
There is a lot more I could have quoted from this post. It's that good.

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Joe Mobley
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Ken Russell
    It's true, and it's one of the biggest mistakes most people in this industry make.

    For example - If you don't own your website completely, meaning you haven't registered a domain and have your own hosting, don't complain when you make a mistake and lose all of your hard work because you wanted to take a "shortcut" and went after the free alternatives that are out there (BlogSpot, Squidoo, HubPages, etc).

    If you're serious about getting somewhere in this business, you need to take action and take the necessary precautions to secure yourself. It's just so much better in the long run when you have complete ownership, so why take the risk?
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    • Profile picture of the author PioneeringProfits
      "And that's precisely what you risk every day you make your business completely dependent on another company"

      The same applies when your business depends on Google.
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      • Profile picture of the author StingGB
        Originally Posted by PioneeringProfits View Post

        The same applies when your business depends on Google.
        The less you need to rely on Google for your IM business, the better. I learned this the hard way.
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    • Profile picture of the author RobertAxelsen
      A great read, Joe Mobley! A great read, and very good points. Thanks for sharing

      Originally Posted by RussellK View Post

      It's true, and it's one of the biggest mistakes most people in this industry make.

      For example - If you don't own your website completely, meaning you haven't registered a domain and have your own hosting, don't complain when you make a mistake and lose all of your hard work because you wanted to take a "shortcut" and went after the free alternatives that are out there (BlogSpot, Squidoo, HubPages, etc).

      If you're serious about getting somewhere in this business, you need to take action and take the necessary precautions to secure yourself. It's just so much better in the long run when you have complete ownership, so why take the risk?
      So true! And it does not even cost that much to get your own hosting and domain name. You can still use free alternatives to increase website traffic, but don't put all the eggs in one basket when it comes to traffic either (for example Google, like many others mentioned here already).
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  • Profile picture of the author braincandy7
    To be fair though the majority of business do not have the option of buying their properties outright as the costs are just too high. Especially when they start out and cannot truly know if their venture will succeed. Once they do know the business model works so too does the landlord who is very unlikely to sell.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    I have no argument with that article.

    However people just starting out in Internet Marketing should not let fear of using third party services stop them from using them to get started.

    Also remember, there are always work arounds in emergencies and you can pull your marketing endeavors out of the fire much easier than a brick and mortar biz usually can. (Case in point, the book store in the article)

    Long story short (too late) Use what you need to make your seed money then invest in your own to keep going and growing.

    For IMers the key is back up everything as you go so if your third party free or low cost providers go south on you you can move on without that many problems.

    Also, I really appreciated PioneeringProfits comment on Google. It illustrates both the OP point and my point profoundly.

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  • Profile picture of the author Shaolinsteve
    They should come up with some new idea following a Kindle approach, where you can purchase books by scanning digital displays of the book in store, check out the summary then purchase it on their e-readers and the store gets commission for any books sold whilst providing customer service.

    Access to all the books available on e-readers without having to worry about purchasing in bulk or however the system runs and just focus on the other areas
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    • Profile picture of the author RobertAxelsen
      Originally Posted by Shaolinsteve View Post

      They should come up with some new idea following a Kindle approach, where you can purchase books by scanning digital displays of the book in store, check out the summary then purchase it on their e-readers and the store gets commission for any books sold whilst providing customer service.

      Access to all the books available on e-readers without having to worry about purchasing in bulk or however the system runs and just focus on the other areas
      Not to bash your idea, but people can already do this with a smartphone and a barcode app. There is even a barcode scanner in my Amazon iPhone app.

      But, since your idea is more geared towards instore customers maybe this could work with a store-specific app and a partnership with Amazon (Amazon associates)
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    "The Most Dangerous Threat to Your Online Marketing Efforts"

    I thought Google was the biggest threat to online marketing efforts :p
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  • Profile picture of the author affilorama-portal
    This is a good post to share here and a wake-up call for those who doesn't realize ye that these things can happen to anyone. I am seeing (in the future to come) that strategies to get direct traffic will become more relevant and important, especially with the changes G is making these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    That post is bang on

    A website, auto-responder and providing value in the form or free info and products

    I did a blog post a couple of months back about kindle and why so many people were putting their income at huge risk by putting so much time into creating and uploading kindle books

    It didn`t go down very well with a lot of people because they don`t like to hear the truth

    But amazon are like facebook, once you put it on their website they own it and you have no rights at all

    Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
      Originally Posted by paul nicholls View Post

      But amazon are like facebook, once you put it on their website they own it and you have no rights at all
      Why do you say that? Until you can prove otherwise I will call a spade a spade and say that is absolutely untrue. You REALLY think all those big publishers just gave away their rights to a bookstore like Amazon. Amazon is nothing special - they are a bookstore and have no more rights to anyone's intellectual property than any other bookstore. Period.

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    • Profile picture of the author vicdublin
      Originally Posted by paul nicholls View Post

      That post is bang on

      A website, auto-responder and providing value in the form or free info and products

      I did a blog post a couple of months back about kindle and why so many people were putting their income at huge risk by putting so much time into creating and uploading kindle books

      It didn`t go down very well with a lot of people because they don`t like to hear the truth

      But amazon are like facebook, once you put it on their website they own it and you have no rights at all


      Paul
      Are you serious?, I used to think that Kindle is safe! I would have loved to know more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

    And that's precisely what you risk every day you make your business completely dependent on another company.
    Exactly so. And yet another fine thread, here, to which to refer people, when they ask about basing their business on pages owned by Blogger, Squidoo and/or HubPages.
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    • Profile picture of the author onSubie
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Exactly so. And yet another fine thread, here, to which to refer people, when they ask about basing their business on pages owned by Blogger, Squidoo and/or HubPages.

      And don't forget Hostgator.

      At any time a 3rd party you are using as a host for all your websites could go out of business or triple their rates. Just as a landlord triples rent.

      But is it worth the cost and effort to run your own servers?

      Would the bookstore be better of buying a building or looking for a new place to lease?

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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

        And don't forget Hostgator.
        I manage rather better, there. They don't keep changing the rules, or have idiosyncratic or inconsistent interpretations of them, limits on monetization or any of the other typical, widespread problems of "Web 2.0 sites". :p
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        • Profile picture of the author onSubie
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          I manage rather better, there. They don't keep changing the rules, or have idiosyncratic or inconsistent interpretations of them, limits on monetization or any of the other typical, widespread problems of "Web 2.0 sites". :p

          I use them too. I'm just saying there is no 100% solution. Any business is going to rely on other people, services and businesses.

          Many people use more than one hosting solution, or autoresponder in order to not have their entire business relying on one provider.

          There have been stories of Hostgator accounts being locked with no notice due to misbehaving plugins, sudden surges in traffic or resource usage.

          But I do agree with you that the more control you can have over your assets, the better.



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  • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
    Mahlon: of course there's no 100% reliable solution, but that's not the point of this otherwise enlightening thread. What the OP is trying to do is to warn people not to build a business around something that positions itself above you, something that has been proven in the past to cornhole innocent people, such as Google. Google owns your traffic, and you can't do anything about it. When they roll out a new algorithm update, you risk to lose some traffic, if not all - and all you can do is sit and assist, with your hands cuffed together to your bed, while Google begins its immersion into your... SERPs.

    On the other hand, owning your own website and getting traffic from other sources than search engines, sources you can control to some extent, makes you less vulnerable. Of course there still is a chance to flop, but as that great article linked from the OP stated: "it's in your control to repair the damage done" - and that's what this is all about: having some degree of control over your business.

    And another thought: you mentioned hosting companies. Even if HostGator (or any other company for that matter) starts to mess with their clients, there are other great hosting companies you can switch to in heartbeat. But you can't say the same about Google or Facebook, can you?
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Where can I get my own Internet so I don't have to worry about this?

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      • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        Where can I get my own Internet so I don't have to worry about this?

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        Check out Craigslist.

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        • Profile picture of the author Mr. Ken Russell
          Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

          Check out Craigslist.

          RoD
          Better yet, try Fiverr :p
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      • Profile picture of the author George Wright
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        Where can I get my own Internet so I don't have to worry about this?

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        PM me your bank account details. I know a prince (or is it a widow of a prince) who will send you one in exchange for your log in details.

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    • Profile picture of the author onSubie
      Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

      But you can't say the same about Google or Facebook, can you?
      How about Bing and My Space? /kidding!

      And the OP was talking about a landlord jacking the rent, not Google or facebook.

      A landlord is more like Hostgator, where as a Starbucks (free WiFi) would be more like facebook or Squidoo.



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      • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
        Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

        How about Bing and My Space? /kidding!

        And the OP was talking about a landlord jacking the rent, not Google or facebook.

        A landlord is more like Hostgator, where as a Starbucks (free WiFi) would be more like facebook or Squidoo.



        Mahlon
        Mahlon: Google can easily be a landlord. He is ******* with your traffic, which in turn means you make less money when he decides to mess with your SERPs. The whole idea behind this thread is to never depend on someone else, and even when you do (because you will eventually do (such as hosting, autoresponders, etc.)) not to be their slut, and have some sort of dominance and authority over them.
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  • Profile picture of the author ampeloi13
    It's true, and it's one of the biggest mistakes most people in this industry make.

    For example - If you don't own your website completely, meaning you haven't registered a domain and have your own hosting, don't complain when you make a mistake and lose all of your hard work because you wanted to take a "shortcut" and went after the free alternatives that are out there (BlogSpot, Squidoo, HubPages, etc).

    If you're serious about getting somewhere in this business, you need to take action and take the necessary precautions to secure yourself. It's just so much better in the long run when you have complete ownership, so why take the risk?
    Agree with the above and Diversify! Learn, to monetize within all areas. Articles, you tube, CPA, PPV, WSO's, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Well, a lot of people here depend on sad sense. They do pay. Also, setting up an account is easy. However, sob stories are many. People forget that one little complaint can get you kicked out into the cold and your dreams turn into vapor. Best that you do not depend on one company. Yeah, even if it is a big name firm such as amazon. I try to make sure to use several different approaches in making money.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Yes, dependence is always very bad. However, it is unavoidable. You always depend on many things to work. It’s hard to control and do everything.

    I saw the same thing mentioned in this article happening into practice with this low economy. Ready businesses that were making money suddenly stopped having customers because everyone stopped spending money with what was not more than indispensable.










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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    We all do it though in one form of another. Whether you use an external web hosting provider, a free blogging provider, use Paypal, rely on Amazon, rely on Kindle, or even selling on ebay. So in some way or another, we all fall victim to this possibility.
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    Hi

    There is a mall near me that I visit on a regular basis. In that mall is a food court. In the food court is a McDonald's.

    McDonald's does not own the mall. They rent a space in the food court.

    Malls do go out of business or are sold or torn down for redevelopment all the time.

    Should McDonald's avoid mall food courts and only build stand-alone McDonald's that they own and control?

    Of course not. The TRAFFIC in the mall justifies the risk.

    McDonald's also has stand alone stores that they own and control (through franchise) . They also have small "drive through only" locations at gas stations.

    Diversifying your business is always good. But to avoid potential profits because you are afraid of a theoretical risk doesn't always make sense.

    Rather than avoid "3rd party platforms" altogether, better to use them as intended and as a part of a diversified business strategy.

    It comes down to "don't put all your eggs in one basket", rather than "don't put your eggs in that basket".

    Mahlon
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