I bought it, Did It, It Made Me Money - But Then I Quit Doing It

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I was wondering if any of y'all could help me understand something that is kinda driving me crazy. I'm not pointing fingers or casting judgement, I just want to get a grasp on a mentality I keep coming across.

I have been told and hear others say something along these lines very often...

"Oh yeah, I bought xxx training program. Worked great.. I made money with it. But I don't do it anymore." - then, they're off looking for some new training program.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am ALL about furthering your knowledge and building up skill sets... but I get stuck when someone says that to me.

You bought it. You put it into action and MADE MONEY... so then you QUIT doing it? :confused:

I think we all know how tough it can be getting your foot in the door in this business and actually start making money... so if you find something you can do, and DO IT, and it makes money... WHY would you quit doing it?

Every successful thing I have tried since the day I walked into this world back in 2007 is still part of my big picture. In other words, I still do it (or outsource it) so I can't seem to get my head around why someone would quit doing what worked for them.

Can anyone shed some insight on this for me? I'd love to hear your feedback and thoughts.

Thanks!

Jennifer
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    • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
      Originally Posted by WesBlaylock View Post

      ..can't...resist...shiny...objects!!!
      Ah so true.... but I believed that was more prevalent when folks were still looking for something that worked for them...not after they found something.

      Originally Posted by Kruciall View Post

      Just because a method of making money is successful doesn't means that that individual will like it. I'm sure there are plenty of methods out there that would make me money but simply don't interest me.
      True - I can see that. I guess my problem with that is that's now how *I* was (which means nothing). I just wanted to do anything I could to get some money coming in until I had enough coming in to where I could be choosy about what I did... if that makes sense.

      Originally Posted by aizaku View Post

      maybe they are lying and they made nothing with whatever wonky product they bought. Maybe its a great product but they are just too lazy and they didnt follow through but they lie anyways
      Very possible... but I have to say that quite a few of them are telling the truth (ie, I KNOW they made money).


      Thanks for your insight!!!

      Jennifer
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      • Profile picture of the author Kruciall
        Originally Posted by PotPieGirl View Post

        True - I can see that. I guess my problem with that is that's now how *I* was (which means nothing). I just wanted to do anything I could to get some money coming in until I had enough coming in to where I could be choosy about what I did... if that makes sense.
        Makes perfect sense to me, especially considering that fact that I'm new to this. My plan is to try different things at the same time and see which is the most successful for me and then build off of that.
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    • Profile picture of the author BlueXephos
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      Originally Posted by WesBlaylock View Post

      ..can't...resist...shiny...objects!!!
      Precious... it's mine... mine...

      Guess the news temptation, or the grass in neighbor's garden is always greener.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
      Originally Posted by WesBlaylock View Post

      ..can't...resist...shiny...objects!!!
      Totally! LOL!

      Always after the next easy shiny object!
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    Just because a method of making money is successful doesn't means that that individual will like it. I'm sure there are plenty of methods out there that would make me money but simply don't interest me.
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    maybe they are lying and they made nothing with whatever wonky product they bought. Maybe its a great product but they are just too lazy and they didnt follow through but they lie anyways
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  • Profile picture of the author adamreilly1997
    This is what happens most people. A new promising program comes out, they show you how much they make and you'll make the same, blah blah blah.

    This is the reason you fail, you didn't stick to the method that worked. Trust me, if you keep looking for the newest hottest program, that's all you're going to do, look and keep looking.

    This is how people make real money online, getting people caught up in hype.
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    • Profile picture of the author connorbringas
      Originally Posted by adamreilly1997 View Post

      This is what happens most people. A new promising program comes out, they show you how much they make and you'll make the same, blah blah blah.

      This is the reason you fail, you didn't stick to the method that worked. Trust me, if you keep looking for the newest hottest program, that's all you're going to do, look and keep looking.

      This is how people make real money online, getting people caught up in hype.
      I'd have to agree with this. Learning just enough about IM to teach people your "method." Selling to the masses of people who are rookies is where the monies at
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Just like you get yourself into a home business and that makes you money, there will always be distractions along the way. There will always be new opportunities that promise the person to make even more money.

    That is why so many people jump from one program to the other.

    Plus, a lot of people are just not committed to one program. If they stick with it long term, they will see very nice results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Crooke
    Great ponder Jennifer,

    If the person was telling the truth that they made money, I would bet either their expenses exceeded the income or they just made a couple of bucks which isn't anything to pursue.

    What is starting to boil me is all these wso's with no proof of income, or no success proof with their testimonials. I have seen a couple of video outsourcing wso's, but they will not show a video which they had outsourced for creation. We need full disclosure with wso's in my opinion.

    Let's hope for a better 2013 to all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
    Originally Posted by PotPieGirl View Post

    I was wondering if any of y'all could help me understand something that is kinda driving me crazy. I'm not pointing fingers or casting judgement, I just want to get a grasp on a mentality I keep coming across.

    I have been told and hear others say something along these lines very often...

    "Oh yeah, I bought xxx training program. Worked great.. I made money with it. But I don't do it anymore." - then, they're off looking for some new training program.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I am ALL about furthering your knowledge and building up skill sets... but I get stuck when someone says that to me.

    You bought it. You put it into action and MADE MONEY... so then you QUIT doing it? :confused:

    I think we all know how tough it can be getting your foot in the door in this business and actually start making money... so if you find something you can do, and DO IT, and it makes money... WHY would you quit doing it?

    Every successful thing I have tried since the day I walked into this world back in 2007 is still part of my big picture. In other words, I still do it (or outsource it) so I can't seem to get my head around why someone would quit doing what worked for them.

    Can anyone shed some insight on this for me? I'd love to hear your feedback and thoughts.

    Thanks!

    Jennifer
    ~PotPieGirl
    It's actually relatively easy to explain this phenomenon. People are lazy by nature... I really wish there was more to it.

    Everyone's looking to hit that big "lottery" product that'll make them rich overnight which is why those stupid $7 "MAKE $500 RIGHT NOW!" are still as popular as ever. You have people who realize that t takes a lot of time and effort to get the results they achieved so they say "nope.jpg" and move onto something else. Sure, it might have worked out for them but it didn't make them millionaires.

    I come across clients like this all of the time. For example, this guy had a gaming style blog he had me writing for on a daily basis and I was bringing him some pretty good traffic. However, he wasn't making as much as he wanted to so he just abandoned it and I never heard from him again. That's pretty common really, I just expect it until proven wrong.

    Frank Kern said it best: People suck
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    I bought it, Did It, It Made Me Money - But Then I Quit Doing It
    They probably made peanuts with it. Most get rich schemes are not made for you to make money, they are made for you to buy their next get rich scheme...
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    • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      They probably made peanuts with it. Most get rich schemes are not made for you to make money, they are made for you to buy their next get rich scheme...
      True words right here!

      Best form of affiliate marketing is building a list or having other marketer's endorse you to their email list. Email traffic is very effective if you build a relationship with your subscribers and allow them to get to know you.
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      • Profile picture of the author yesacpow
        I think it has to do with the way most of these persons were introduced to internet marketing. Some came after seeing some ads for some gurus sales video of a product that promised them crazy amount of money and normally in a short period of time..

        You know the ones: 7 clicks to blah blah....

        So when they struggle with some method that takes 'WORK' they are not satisfied and they are off to finding the next big thing even though they made a 'little' money with the method that took work.

        If only they would stick with that one method and replicate it multiple times over ... A well.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsouravs
    For those type of people ....IMO... IM is not for living... IM is just a time pass or some little bit of money for fun..like that...

    They then look for other stuff to see if that can bring more money than the current one...

    my personal opinion...not aimed at anybody.
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  • Profile picture of the author mydream247
    I agree many people exaggerate about how much income they really make online,
    Most of the wso's show screen shots and testimonials from JV partners to help pump up thread, newbies see these great designed sales pages, loaded with testimonials and get caught up in the "Ah That Could Be Me" syndrome.

    Some really do make money but when you add up the time spent promoting, traffic cost, domain, hosting ect..It comes out to more than the wso cost, and really no profit, so then it's on to the next great sales page.
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  • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
    I know there are some that might not tell the truth...or what they did make wasn't really much, but that's not really the type I'm talking about.

    I'm talking about folks I KNOW have been doing this for only a few months, are already making $500+ a month (for FREE)....and when I ask what they're working on now they tell me, "Oh, I haven't really done anything with it for weeks". and then go on to ask me about something new they are looking at.

    THAT'S the mentality that baffles me.

    Thanks for all your feedback - keep it coming!

    Jennifer
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    • Profile picture of the author kajol shafiq
      I suppose Jennifer this is nothing but the shiny-object syndrome which these people are suffering from. True, they might have made some money, but the lure for more makes them look for other things that might make them even more money. And they end up disappointed!
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Jen, it's so good to see you still around. I was just thinking about you today. No
        lie. Just out of the blue. Go figure.

        People are always looking for the next big thing. It's never good enough. The
        problem is, in order to do that next big thing, in most cases, you have to give
        up the last big thing you were doing because there just isn't enough time.

        In most cases, it's simply that the last big thing, while making them money,
        didn't make them ENOUGH money for their tastes, so they chucked it and went
        on to something else.

        What they don't realize is that a lot of the things that they were doing, that
        they themselves spent time on, could have been outsourced and still made them
        a nice profit.

        I mean even if you make only $1 profit per day for every article you
        outsourced, wouldn't you outsource as many as you could? Hell, even I'd do
        that. 100 articles, $100 per day. That's $3,000 per month profit.

        Naturally, you need to crunch the numbers and make sure everything adds
        up. But once you've done that, it's just math.

        Hell, if I could setup an Adwords campaign that generated me $1 profit for
        every $2 I spend on ads, I'd dump as much into that campaign as traffic will
        allow.

        But most people are looking for the big score. Dear God, let me hit the lottery
        so I can sit on my butt and do nothing for the next 40 years.

        And if XYZ Bucket Of Business Bolts doesn't give it to them, they move on to
        ABC Barrel Of Monkey Brains next.

        It ends when they're either broke or dead.
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        • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Jen, it's so good to see you still around. I was just thinking about you today. No
          lie. Just out of the blue. Go figure.
          Hope it was GOOD thoughts... not "I wonder if that blankety-blank is still around"....hahahaha!

          Always nice to see you as well


          People are always looking for the next big thing. It's never good enough. The problem is, in order to do that next big thing, in most cases, you have to give up the last big thing you were doing because there just isn't enough time.

          In most cases, it's simply that the last big thing, while making them money,
          didn't make them ENOUGH money for their tastes, so they chucked it and went on to something else.
          Yep, I'm starting to see that. What I struggle with is how to HELP people THRU that mentality.

          What they don't realize is that a lot of the things that they were doing, that they themselves spent time on, could have been outsourced and still made them a nice profit.

          I mean even if you make only $1 profit per day for every article you
          outsourced, wouldn't you outsource as many as you could? Hell, even I'd do
          that. 100 articles, $100 per day. That's $3,000 per month profit.

          Naturally, you need to crunch the numbers and make sure everything adds
          up. But once you've done that, it's just math.

          Hell, if I could setup an Adwords campaign that generated me $1 profit for
          every $2 I spend on ads, I'd dump as much into that campaign as traffic will
          allow.
          If I had a dime for every time I've said something along those same lines... "If you could make one free little web page that makes $25, $50, or more a month, how many would you make?"

          Then when folks do it - and it DOES work as I said - then they STOP doing it at all.... well, that just baffles me. Maybe I was too hungry when I started, but the thought of not doing something that was working never crossed my mind.

          But most people are looking for the big score. Dear God, let me hit the lottery so I can sit on my butt and do nothing for the next 40 years.

          And if XYZ Bucket Of Business Bolts doesn't give it to them, they move on to
          ABC Barrel Of Monkey Brains next.

          It ends when they're either broke or dead.
          Very true... and "Barrel Of Monkey Brains" made me laugh.. thanks!

          Jennifer
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tanner
    Originally Posted by PotPieGirl View Post

    You bought it. You put it into action and MADE MONEY... so then you QUIT doing it? :confused:
    There are a lot of things I've done in the past that have made me money, which I don't do much anymore (ie article marketing, SEO, freelancing).... simply because I get a much better ROI for my time & money by focusing on other things now (ie software development, JV's, media buys, outsourcing, etc).

    So if someone quits doing something that has made them money in the past, it may be for a similar reason. Or it may be that what they're doing now is simply more enjoyable (whether it makes them more $ or not). Or it could be that they quit because they're flat out lazy, and would rather just keep living in that "get rich quick without doing any work" fantasy world!
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  • Profile picture of the author WarrenPeterson
    I agree with Corey.

    More people want to win the lottery than want to work. Even when the lottery players 'hit' a small payout, they still keep playing the game to win the big one.
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    • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
      Originally Posted by WarrenPeterson View Post

      I agree with Corey.

      More people want to win the lottery than want to work. Even when the lottery players 'hit' a small payout, they still keep playing the game to win the big one.
      Very good point, Warren!

      Interesting too because we had a 550 MILLION dollar PowerBall lottery drawing last night here in Georgia (and other states). I gotta tell ya, there were a TON of highly motivated people all day yesterday. They did whatever it took to get to the store and buy those tickets.

      So, for many people, buying a MMO training program IS like buying a lottery ticket. Even if that one "ticket" wins a little, there is still this drive to go buy another ticket to make even more.

      Hmmmmm.....

      Jennifer
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      • Profile picture of the author WarrenPeterson
        Originally Posted by PotPieGirl View Post

        Very good point, Warren!

        Interesting too because we had a 550 MILLION dollar PowerBall lottery drawing last night here in Georgia (and other states). I gotta tell ya, there were a TON of highly motivated people all day yesterday. They did whatever it took to get to the store and buy those tickets.

        So, for many people, buying a MMO training program IS like buying a lottery ticket. Even if that one "ticket" wins a little, there is still this drive to go buy another ticket to make even more.

        Hmmmmm.....

        Jennifer
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        It was a bit depressing for me to learn this reality of the audience, to be honest. In my real career I am a business coach, but not the IM/MMO kind that are found often here. So to learn how many really are wanting the lotto win instead of making a business made me sad. I had my one, and will be last WSO (I have quickly learned this is not my market), where I was teaching the same exact stuff I've done in a profitable side niche, but the feedback has taught me this market space wants the lotto win, not the real work.

        So even when there is a little win, like your $500/month example, folks are still wanting to play the lotto for the big win instead.

        Same thing at a casino; someone will 'win' a few hundred and by the end of the day lose it all again trying to win even more.
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        • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
          Originally Posted by WarrenPeterson View Post

          It was a bit depressing for me to learn this reality of the audience, to be honest. In my real career I am a business coach, but not the IM/MMO kind that are found often here. So to learn how many really are wanting the lotto win instead of making a business made me sad. I had my one, and will be last WSO (I have quickly learned this is not my market), where I was teaching the same exact stuff I've done in a profitable side niche, but the feedback has taught me this market space wants the lotto win, not the real work.
          I hate to hear that, Warren. I know your work and think it's fantastic. Heck, I even emailed you to tell you that... and I RARELY do that.

          Thing is, you have a ton to offer. No, EVERYONE is not gonna "get it" - or do it - but I still believe in that small % of folks starting in this business who DO get it...and DO it. Those are the folks that need you most.


          So even when there is a little win, like your $500/month example, folks are still wanting to play the lotto for the big win instead.

          Same thing at a casino; someone will 'win' a few hundred and by the end of the day lose it all again trying to win even more.
          Ah yes.... oddly, I've been guilty of that a few times myself - but to me, that casino stuff is all entertainment and a game. Bad attitude, I'm sure, but it's just for fun. If I ever NEEDED that money being gambled... or won... well, in my opinion, I should never step into a casino in the first place.

          Jennifer
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          (again, sorry, I ran out of "thanks" to give, but I'm still thinking it... Thank you!)
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          • Profile picture of the author WarrenPeterson
            Originally Posted by PotPieGirl View Post

            I hate to hear that, Warren. I know your work and think it's fantastic. Heck, I even emailed you to tell you that... and I RARELY do that.

            Thing is, you have a ton to offer. No, EVERYONE is not gonna "get it" - or do it - but I still believe in that small % of folks starting in this business who DO get it...and DO it. Those are the folks that need you most.

            ..
            I appreciate that, I really do. I just don't have the time to weed through and find that small percentage of people. I was hopeful, but that hope has faded here, and I don't think I'll go down that path again. I'm not going anywhere though, as I enjoy learning and meeting new people,
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  • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
    To all those described in the thread, I am currently seeking out the easy button that puts a million dollars in your account. Once I come into contact with said device, I will share it with you all for the low price of $7 and a 60 day money back guarantee!
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    • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
      Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post

      To all those described in the thread, I am currently seeking out the easy button that puts a million dollars in your account. Once I come into contact with said device, I will share it with you all for the low price of $7 and a 60 day money back guarantee!
      Too funny, Corey! But Me Too! I want the Easy Button....lol!

      (sorry, but apparently I can't give anymore "thanks"...but I am still THINKING "Thank You".)

      Jennifer
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      • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
        Originally Posted by PotPieGirl View Post

        Too funny, Corey! But Me Too! I want the Easy Button....lol!

        (sorry, but apparently I can't give anymore "thanks"...but I am still THINKING "Thank You".)

        Jennifer
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        You can't? Well that's really weird.

        I guess a "You're Welcome" should be in my thoughts as well.

        Since you were so generous, i'll give you a 7 day free trial to my instant wealth magic button device thingy. The last location I heard of for the device was in the lost city of Atlantis. Don't worry guys, I'm on it.
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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      I'm in Corey. Please hurry.

      Seriously though, to the OP here is the long answer.

      When I was 6 years old and in grammar school it was all the rage to play marbles spin tops and eat penny candy. The only thing I was good at was eating the penny candy, however I did find out a very interesting fact...

      When the kids lost their marbles (I guess gambling was legal at my school), broke their tops and ate up all their penny candy they wanted more marbles, tops and candy. And they were quite willing to pay a premium price for said goodies.

      Hey, I've got this extra top, never mind I only paid a nickle for it, you can have it for 7 cents. You only have two solid nickles, no problem I'll take them. Change? Uh, how about a piece of candy? Deal!

      Lost yur marbles? Gotchur marbles here, do you want 10 for a nickle or?

      Was I making a lot of money, not really, but, I was having fun.

      Things went about the same for me as I grew up. Little opportunities to make money would pop up from time to time. In Jr. high I just tried to stay alive. In high school I sold rides on my motorcycle until I made enough to buy another motorcycle so I could teach kids how to ride.

      Cut to age 21 I had a JOB, yuk. Hated jobs but worked them as needed to support my growing family. However I longed for the days when kids lost their marbles and ate penny candy.

      One day I saw a guy putting candy in a vending machine and got in touch with his company and ran my own rout for a year or so. It was still a job, but, at least I could come and go as I pleased and the money came quick.

      After that I ran a catering rout. Still a job still had a measure of freedom.

      In between my catering rout job and my last job of selling insurance I discovered my calling. Make money every day by working my proverbial butt off. I had a measure of youth on my side and the hard work didn't hurt me. I cleaned carpets for around 20 years.

      Then I got my last job. It was selling insurance. Selling insurance was like selling to the kids who had lost their marbles. It was fun.

      Then I discovered Internet Marketing.

      Side Bar: I said all of the above to say that there are many of us out here who do jump from one shiny new object to another because WE LIKE IT. Correction, WE LOVE IT!

      I've had many a losing battle of wits with some very nice and not so nice Warriors who speak as if not making a "Business" out of something makes one scum. Not so. "Different strokes for different folks" are not just Sly words they are words to live by.

      Back to Internet Marketing.

      I jump around here too. Simple. Old Dog New Tricks Syndrome.

      Hey it's fun and I made enough money to support a modest life style.

      Lo and behold I now have a nice little residual Income. And It's not what you might think. I can supplement it with IM any time I want to. See, when you reach a certain age in this country and if you have paid taxes over the years A nice uncle sends you a check every month.

      Life is good.

      Oh, I still do my personal top secret style of research for new products every day. Some days now I just relax and look out my living room window and watch Paul and Allen work all day.


      Wow. I took the above picture about a month ago. While I was writing this post I looked out my window and shot Paul about 10 times. Below are the best shots.


      So why such a long post in answer to the OP?

      Folks I know for a fact there are a lot of Warriors just like me who just love to deal with people who lose their marbles. We enjoy the ride much more than the destination. Thus we jump from train to bus to plane as much as we can and still live the lifestyle we like. We could not care less about starting a business. If others want to start a business, we support them and even supply them with the tools they need to be successful.

      This Forum was originally called "Warriors Of Internet Marketing." And that is why I settled here. Marketing, not Business.

      Right On Sly... Different strokes for different folks.

      Life Is Good,

      George Wright

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      To all those described in the thread, I am currently seeking out the easy button that puts a million dollars in your account. Once I come into contact with said device, I will share it with you all for the low price of $7 and a 60 day money back guarantee!
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  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
    I'm the type of person you're talking about. I delete things making me money - deleted some $300+ sites, made money with certain products' tutorials but never duplicated it.

    For ME, it's all about enjoyment. I LOVE this business BECAUSE I don't have to do what anyone else says. If I don't like something, I can kick it to the curb. Yes, even if it's making me money. If it's a hassle or boring to me, it's gone. I want to enjoy what I do 100% - not mess with outsourcing it just to keep it breathing.

    And having it sit there - knowing I have no plans to continue its growth will gnaw on me, so I have to clean it up.

    Some people on my list were pissed that I deleted some sites instead of go through the transfer process to give it to them. I didn't want to take time to mess with that. I hit delete. Sometimes I scraped my own content before I did and did something else with it.

    Some products I've bought and implemented have made me money, but I let it go. It just didn't "do it for me" after that initial try - even if it made me money. Some I did sell to others, to get out of it.

    Sometimes I FrankenTiff stuff - take JUST what I like out of it and keep it and use it, delete the rest.

    Basically, this business we're in offers SO MANY opportunities and business models, that it's like a buffet of sorts. I might try something, think it's okay - but I won't go back for seconds, even if it filled me up a bit.

    Instead, I'll try something new, or go back to my favorites.

    Hmm I must be hungry...lunch time!

    Tiff
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    The bad side of this trend is obvious. People want to make money faster, or easier so they jump to the next big thing. In the end, they never become truly successful with anything. I know this is the situation you're talking about, Jen.

    On the other hand, some people become entrepreneurs because they don't want to be tied to doing the same thing the rest of their lives. In that case it can be good to have the freedom to get up one morning and say, "I'm going to try something different today."

    Rose
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    • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
      Originally Posted by Rose Anderson View Post

      The bad side of this trend is obvious. People want to make money faster, or easier so they jump to the next big thing. In the end, they never become truly successful with anything. I know this is the situation you're talking about, Jen.

      On the other hand, some people become entrepreneurs because they don't want to be tied to doing the same thing the rest of their lives. In that case it can be good to have the freedom to get up one morning and say, "I'm going to try something different today."

      Rose
      Well said, Rose - thank you!

      Jennifer
      ~PotPieGirl
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  • Profile picture of the author ckarling
    The business of business is business! It doesn't matter what you do. There's no such thing as "oh, no that's not for me" when you are building wealth. (excepting unmoral or illegal activity off course) and if people are too lazy to stick to a working system, then I don't think there's much hope for them in the long run anyway. "$500 a month ain't enough, and it's too slow going" ... Well, excuse the f**k out of me mr. push-button sir!

    It's either a job, or a game. To me, it's a job, so I stick to my plan. Anyway, I think it's much better to do what the guru's do, not do what the gurus tell you to do. So no more shiny baubles for me, thanks.

    Rant over!

    <--- Back to happy!
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoHitmen
    sometimes people save up money from one project then stop doing it to invest in something larger or easier with a better return. If you know how to make 50.cent /day on adfly are you going to do it forever or are you going to invest that money into somthing bigger.
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    • Profile picture of the author ckarling
      This I agree with. Quitting and starting over on the next shiny course though is not something I understand why people do.

      Originally Posted by SeoHitmen View Post

      sometimes people save up money from one project then stop doing it to invest in something larger or easier with a better return. If you know how to make 50.cent /day on adfly are you going to do it forever or are you going to invest that money into somthing bigger.
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  • Profile picture of the author PolicyMaker
    It means they still haven't find their muse yet ...something they love to do while making money...
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I don't know. I heard the magic button thing was somewhere in Turkey, while other sources have said South America. And some say it's in the backyard.

    Some choose to quit things that work because the time spent is not worth the return, or they have the luxury of choosing other paths they enjoy more.

    I think what you are really wondering is how to instill your students with ambition and persistance. As the joke goes: it only takes one psychologist to change a light bulb,
    but it has to want to change.

    I also think that there is a problem in this society with wanting to enjoy work or business right now, instead of later. And, people don't look at the fact that while it is not "oh so fulfilling", it is good enough to do because it pays the bills and feeds the mouths.

    But, there is hope, because via outsourcing and delegating, people can expand their business and spend more time doing the things they are good at and passionate about. And, maybe outsourcing and delegating are the next areas for your coaching? (If you are not already.)

    Maybe that's the lure to make people wish to change and keep on doing things that work so they can get to the outsourcing and delegting stage of their business and spend more time how they wish. Paint the picture of the complete path.

    Dan
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    • Profile picture of the author ckarling
      No Jones, you're thinking of the crystal skulls.

      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      I don't know. I heard the magic button thing was somewhere in Turkey, while other sources have said South America. And some say it's in the backyard.
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      • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
        it only takes one psychologist to change a light bulb, but it has to want to change.
        Love it!

        And very true 'round here as well!

        Thanks all!

        Jennifer
        ~PotPieGirl
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      • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
        Originally Posted by ckarling View Post

        No Jones, you're thinking of the crystal skulls.
        Acres of diamonds really.:<)
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  • Profile picture of the author zspuckl
    I'm guilty, I have a few sources that make me around 200-300 a month...guess I just realized its that much! Anyways I still want somthibg else, for me I have so much going Ob outside of IM that if I found one thing that offered me more money with less time it's worth the risk...if just one pays off...

    That being sai I never truly abandon anything, I'm too worried one system will fail...

    I make money with
    squdioo
    Squdioo and Clickbank
    Amazon
    Freelance Writing
    Fiverr (not so much anymore as I suddenly lost traffic...)

    I get why people move on...because they want the next step to be bigger and better
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Might as well match a long post with a longer post lol.

    I've done this several times myself. Even when I was making good money with 1 thing, I'd move to something completely different. However, the way I'd explain these situations on here, and the way they actually happened, were 2 totally different stories.

    For instance. The first WSO I ever bought was a 9X12 post card marketing wso by Bob Ross. My first month I made $4,600 selling post card marketing locally. My second month I made a similar amount. Then I moved on to selling website design. Then I moved over to generating leads with Craigslist and collecting commission on sales. Then I added youtube to my funnel. Then facebook, and eventually PPC.

    If I wrote the process on here, it would read "I use to do x, then I started doing y".
    What really happened was x opened up doors for y. As I was selling postcards to clients, they asked me if I could fix or redo their sites. I started doing that, and liked it a lot better. I was doing less walkins and getting more referals with web design. I was also able to spend a lot more time at home.

    Even though I was initially making less, I saw potential to make a lot more in the future. Then my web design clients asked if I could generate leads for them. So I started marketing on CL and learning copywriting. Eventually, I saw a lot of potential in lead generation and acting as a lead broker.

    Now granted, this may appear like I've been "bouncing around", but I've been persistently following the path of least resistance. I've been merging skills, merging resources, and moving on to better things. The issue is the setting. This place is a forum, not a phone conversation. So it takes far too long to explain all the little details like I am now.

    People may ask, "well Redshifted.. what are you doing now?" And they'd be suprised to hear that once again, I've made another switch. This time to persue a much larger opportunity. Everytime I move to something new, I do it for that 1 word - "opportunity". For a while I've been generating leads for small businesses. Then I realized, "I'm an idiot for giving these leads to small businesses... why not just start my own business and sell the leads too?"

    So recently, I launched my first website to compete with the clients I use to broker leads to. I ran my first 3 estimates this past week, and sold 2 of them. To make the same amount of money, I would have needed to generate 6-10 sold jobs for my past clients (depending on what they sold the job for and what my commission was).

    Granted, now I am running my own business, instead of just generating leads, but its actually less work than lead brokering. Because I already had all the resources in place to make this work effectively. I have the contacts to subcontract the work, I know how to sell the work, so it works out fairly simple. Not to mention my brother who has 12 years experience in this niche. I'm doing 2 times the amount of work (it actually takes less time to sell the leads than generate them) for a minimum of 6 times the amount of profit.

    Now that I own my own business, and have a consistent flow of leads coming in, my next step is outsourcing/scaling. I will train salesmen, eliminate myself from the sales process, and focus more on lead generation. On top of that, I will add upsells to a front end, that already has a fairly high profit margin. Nobody in this niche is upselling anything. When it became so obvious to me that the market demanded 2 other related services. None of my competitors are offering them, which gives me that much more motivation to expand.

    However, with all these details considered, I'm still leaving out the most important one. My brother. Without him, I wouldn't have been able to achieve any of this. Many reasons why. The main one - he's been in this niche for 12 years. He was the "inside connection" I needed to infiltrate things so quickly. Just to think, 1 year ago I came here broke always complaining about money. Now, I see nothing but enormous potential for my future. Warrior forum did one huge thing for me. It taught me that there is truely a solution for every problem you can think of. And it taught me that money really IS everywhere. So you always need to be on the lookout for new opportunities. You need to condition your brain to see opportunity. When you are always looking for, its amazing how much opportunity is really out there.

    ALL I DID was follow the path of least resistance. The same way water does. And thats all I'm going to do in the future.

    -Red
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    • Profile picture of the author George Wright
      Red,

      Wish I had said that too. True, True, True.

      George Wright

      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      Might as well match a long post with a longer post lol.

      I've done this several times myself. Even when I was making good money with 1 thing, I'd move to something completely different. However, the way I'd explain these situations on here, and the way they actually happened, were 2 totally different stories.

      For instance. The first WSO I ever bought was a 9X12 post card marketing wso by Bob Ross. My first month I made $4,600 selling post card marketing locally. My second month I made a similar amount. Then I moved on to selling website design. Then I moved over to generating leads with Craigslist and collecting commission on sales. Then I added youtube to my funnel. Then facebook, and eventually PPC.

      If I wrote the process on here, it would read "I use to do x, then I started doing y".
      What really happened was x opened up doors for y. As I was selling postcards to clients, they asked me if I could fix or redo their sites. I started doing that, and liked it a lot better. I was doing less walkins and getting more referals with web design. I was also able to spend a lot more time at home.

      Even though I was initially making less, I saw potential to make a lot more in the future. Then my web design clients asked if I could generate leads for them. So I started marketing on CL and learning copywriting. Eventually, I saw a lot of potential in lead generation and acting as a lead broker.

      Now granted, this may appear like I've been "bouncing around", but I've been persistently following the path of least resistance. I've been merging skills, merging resources, and moving on to better things. The issue is the setting. This place is a forum, not a phone conversation. So it takes far too long to explain all the little details like I am now.

      People may ask, "well Redshifted.. what are you doing now?" And they'd be suprised to hear that once again, I've made another switch. This time to persue a much larger opportunity. Everytime I move to something new, I do it for that 1 word - "opportunity". For a while I've been generating leads for small businesses. Then I realized, "I'm an idiot for giving these leads to small businesses... why not just start my own business and sell the leads too?"

      So recently, I launched my first website to compete with the clients I use to broker leads to. I ran my first 3 estimates this past week, and sold 2 of them. To make the same amount of money, I would have needed to generate 6-10 sold jobs for my past clients (depending on what they sold the job for and what my commission was).

      Granted, now I am running my own business, instead of just generating leads, but its actually less work than lead brokering. Because I already had all the resources in place to make this work effectively. I have the contacts to subcontract the work, I know how to sell the work, so it works out fairly simple. Not to mention my brother who has 12 years experience in this niche. I'm doing 2 times the amount of work (it actually takes less time to sell the leads than generate them) for a minimum of 6 times the amount of profit.

      Now that I own my own business, and have a consistent flow of leads coming in, my next step is outsourcing/scaling. I will train salesmen, eliminate myself from the sales process, and focus more on lead generation. On top of that, I will add upsells to a front end, that already has a fairly high profit margin. Nobody in this niche is upselling anything. When its became so obvious to me that the market demanded 2 other related services. None of my competitors are offering them, which gives me that much more motivation to expand.

      However, with all these details considered, I'm still leaving out the most important one. My brother. Without him, I wouldn't have been able to achieve any of this. Many reasons why. The main one - he's been in this niche for 12 years. He was the "inside connection" I needed to infiltrate things so quickly. Just to think, 1 year ago I came here broke always complaining about money. Now, I see nothing but enormous potential for my future. Warrior forum did one huge thing for me. It taught me that there is truely a solution for every problem you can think of. And it taught me that money really IS everywhere. So you always need to be on the lookout for new opportunities. You need to condition your brain to see opportunity. When you are always looking for, its amazing how much opportunity is really out there.

      ALL I DID was follow the path of least resistance. The same way water does. And thats all I'm going to do in the future.

      -Red
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      • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
        Wow, wish my "thanks" button would still work (for some reason, it won't let me thank anymore...weird)

        George...Red - awesome shares and insight...thank you!

        George, you said:

        Side Bar: I said all of the above to say that there are many of us out here who do jump from one shiny new object to another because WE LIKE IT. Correction, WE LOVE IT!

        I've had many a losing battle of wits with some very nice and not so nice Warriors who speak as if not making a "Business" out of something makes one scum. Not so. "Different strokes for different folks" are not just Sly words they are words to live by.
        Nodding in agreement. I'm also a big fan of leveraging any free resources you can to earn your own start up money and then choose what business you want to start... or NOT start.

        Also love the squirrel pictures! I sit on my back screen porch and watch those crazy creatures try and work the bird feeders. Wow, it only we were ALL that determined & resourceful - with no fear of falling like those squirrels!

        Red - I like the "like water" comparison... makes sense. One thing opens a door for another and it just flows that way.

        PPC Coach - totally am familiar with all that... I see/hear it many times a day.

        Thanks y'all!

        Jennifer
        ~PotPieGirl
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        • Profile picture of the author danr62
          Originally Posted by PotPieGirl View Post

          Wow, wish my "thanks" button would still work (for some reason, it won't let me thank anymore...weird)
          Hey Jennifer, glad to see you back in action here at the WF (I know you've been busy with other stuff).

          So, you only get so many thanks per day. I guess it's a way to make sure people aren't randomly thanking everyone or something silly like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    I think it goes like this:

    1.) buy the course
    2.) glance through it
    3.) maybe make one half ass attempt if that
    4.) get lucky on that one half ass attempt sometimes
    5.) evaluate that it took some work to make money with the course
    6.) search for whatever ELSE is out there that can make money faster with less work
    7.) rinse and repeat until about a 1.5 to 2 years into their journey
    8.) go back to the place that you made money with and take a serious approach this time
    9.) profit

    I've seen that pattern above COUNTLESS times. I've had guys and gals email saying, "Man I wish I had taken it seriously the first time around I wouldn't have wasted all that time and money".

    It's human nature.

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  • Profile picture of the author guypeleides
    I guess the real question is how could someone love pot pie that much?

    Seriously though, shiny object syndrome is everywhere, especially in a disposable economy. The very fact that you are you asking the question about being focused tells me you'll likely be successful. I suppose there are exceptions where the business just wasn't sustainable but that's probably rarely the case.

    Best of luck to you Jennifer. Nice to see someone staying focused.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
      Yeah... those who change gears - being profitable - have shiny object syndrome, donĀ“t take things seriously and will never be successful... :p

      Like that guy, who sold everything and went to see the world with just a backpack... what was his name again? Oh yeah, John Reese.
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    • Profile picture of the author vicdublin
      All the while that I have been surfing the IM thread, the most question being asked would normally be " how do I make such and such amount daily, monthly or in some cases in 24hrs." and there has been lots of WSOs claiming to make you money in 24hrs!, So here is my case, when someone buys such products and maybe luckily makes
      some money, they get bored with it and abandon it thereafter even though it is still capable of making more money. the reasons for this could be:

      1. Lack of interest in that niche that made them that money.
      2. Distraction by other WSOs
      3. The program not making enough money to keep them tight.

      I do think that it is important that one finds a niche that they are passionate about and try to make money from there as the interest and passion may be a huge motivational tool for them.
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    • Profile picture of the author PotPieGirl
      Originally Posted by danr62 View Post

      Hey Jennifer, glad to see you back in action here at the WF (I know you've been busy with other stuff).
      Thank you! I enjoy being back in here =)



      Originally Posted by guypeleides View Post

      I guess the real question is how could someone love pot pie that much?

      Oddly, I'm really not a big fan of pot pies...lol! The nickname was given to me many years ago as a joke that had nothing to do with pot pies... and the nickname stuck.

      When I started online back in 2007 I tried to think of a name I could use. I Google'd potpiegirl and Google had NOTHING - imagine that....lol! I really didn't know I was doing it at the time, but I ended up creating my own query space. It was fun to watch as Google struggled with the name/keyword and kept insisting "I" was a typo...and then finally giving in and letting me exist.

      I do weird things for fun...hahaha!

      I appreciate all the feedback and insight, y'all! It's helping me understand and helping me to help others THRU it.

      Jennifer
      ~PotPieGirl
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      • Profile picture of the author ringer37
        Sometimes I think I'd be the most successful online if I had only had access to only 1 way of making money online. And then was locked in a cell with only my computer, some food and water, and had no access to my email inbox or any forum of any kind, lol.

        It's all about the distractions and options. IM world is choked full of them.
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        • Profile picture of the author newBum76
          I bought the first Google Sniper system back in 2009, implemented it as instructed, and I got 1 site and 1 CPA offer making me around 2k-3k a month, with my best month pulling in about 4k.

          That income lasted maybe around 7 or 8 months until a couple unfortunate things happened. First, an insane amount of competition showed up in google, knocking me out of my top position for the main keyword. Second, the TOS of the offer changed, so I wasn't allowed to promote on my site anymore because it had the brand in the domain name. I redirected to a new domain, but the most I've ever made with the site since then is a few hundred bucks a month.

          Why didn't I repeat the process? 2 reasons - first, I admit I was lazy. Instead of keeping on working, I sort of rested on my laurels and figured this whole IM thing was a piece of cake because I found success so easily, and that I could just whip out a new google sniper site any old time I want and make more money (which I didn't even attempt because I was having too much fun wasting time and spending my extra 3k a month).

          The second reason is that reality eventually hit me....I realized that I simply got lucky with the product I picked to promote. It was relatively unknown at the time, so there wasn't a whole lot of competition and I was able to snag the exact match domain. But shortly after, the product got insanely popular....I'm talking infomercials on TV and everything, and that's when all the competition showed up. So my thinking there is that I got lucky, and it's not likely that I'd get lucky again promoting a popular product before everyone else finds out about it.

          Well actually there's 3 reasons I didn't repeat the process, obviously there's the google algorithm changes, and we all know that sniper sites aren't as effective these days, so I've decided that SEO is not the best business model since google is so unpredictable.

          That whole experience was both a blessing and a curse. It was a curse because my easy success gave me kind of a warped view of internet marketing. I didn't think IM was something you had to work hard at; that you could just throw up a 5 page site in a day and live off the passive income without doing anything else.

          Since then I've been looking for another jackpot (well jackpot to me anyway) instant 4 figure a month income, and when I try a new method and it doesn't happen, I quickly lose interest and move on to the next shiny thing. I haven't hit another jackpot yet, and I'm realizing that I should probably stick with one of these methods and build up my income over time. Who would've thunk lol.

          But the experience was also a blessing for me because it proved to me that I CAN make a great income for myself online. If I hadn't had success with that sniper site, I probably would've given up a long time ago. I know a lot of you newbies out there have never known what it feels like to make a few thousand bucks in a month just from pushing buttons on your laptop....let me tell you, it feels pretty AWESOME. So yes, I'm very grateful for that early success because there's nothing like having firsthand experience of making money to keep you going.

          Wow, this ended up being a lot longer than I planned lol. I need to get back to work! I'll just share a few final things I learned from my 3+ years in internet marketing.

          1. NEVER put all your eggs in 1 basket

          2. Don't rely on SEO for all your traffic

          3. The people who make the most money online have their own products, and they build lists.

          I don't have my own products or a list yet, but that's what I'm working on right now. Hopefully I can stick with it and not get distracted lol. Time for me to get back to work, good luck everyone!

          Jon
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  • Profile picture of the author MKCookins
    I believe it is unwise for people to jump from one method to the next - thinking it will make them money faster.

    For example if you wanted to learn to ride a skateboard, bike, and go rollerblading - if you did all 3 at the same time you would never be great at one, or worst never learn to do any. But if you dedicated your whole time to one transportation - you could quickly learn it, and become great.

    Same goes for making money online / driving traffic to your website.

    Now if you have mastered one method - try a new method but continue doing what is working for you as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author mialove
    I always try to find the best deal - less work and more money
    So, if i make something and it bring me 500$ a month, it's not enough for me. I prefer to find something else with same amount of time and more cash,
    It takes time to find the "right strategy".
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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    Humans are strange creatures. They behave in totally unpredictable ways. If we analyze our actions, we can find that many times we don't do what logically seems to be the correct option. I guess this has something to do with not sticking to those things which are working for us. If you just try to find some logical answer to this irrational behavior, you might not be able to!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    Well, some methods like SEO and Adsense die out over time, so people move onto better methods.

    I made my first dollars with SEO and Adsense, but I got my account banned for getting clickbombed. I've moved onto list building and haven't looked back since.
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  • Profile picture of the author Majin
    Shiny object syndrome hehe, we all got it in a period of our life
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  • Profile picture of the author lesterlim85
    Shiny object syndrome is part and parcel of everyone's life I guess. We all tend to want to move to somewhere "better" when we see those offers being "very easy" or "super scalable", or "can make $10k/month", etc.. The real secret is really to be persistent and implement a system for a period till you see some results and not to move on to another method while u are just half-way thru the 1st one.

    Cheers,
    Lester
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    • Profile picture of the author Magic Mike IM
      And I suppose there can be some legitimate reasons for abandoning a method that works... I've done it over the years from time to time... doesn't scale well, obvious monetary limitations, level of work involved for work done, etc.

      But overall, yes, its puzzling when someone is desparate to find a method that works, finds one, and then doesn't follow-through.

      Look how many IM products that average person purchases... why ? Either the methods don't work, or they do work and are not pursued...
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