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I use Twitter for a personal account to swap silly, everyday messages to my mates.

Of course that means on Twitter I "live" in the closed world of my friends only. None of them share much other than a good news story, a link to a photo here and there.

In other words, how effective is it REALLY for an online business in any niche other than maybe sports, news and the odd celebrity one?

I'e never bothered connecting my sites to Twitter. When I do a search for some keywords all I find is retweets from #ifollowback type accounts. Do they really have any effect on traffic? Am I wrong in thinking that at the end of the day, these such accounts are also a closed network attracting no "real people"?

Your views will be much appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Yes, you're right. Twitter is a pretty crappy source of traffic for almost all but a few offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsouravs
    Twitter and FB both means no value to me in that way... except a little bit of SEO .... if any.

    I have set up my Twitter and FB connected... so I put my new blog post in FB.... done...finished...

    I also post to Goog Plus.... done finished....

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  • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
    Social Media has an impact on both traffic and search engine optimization. As of lately, Google has been paying attention to Facebook/Twitter and other social platforms to see how many people are talking about websites via social platforms like Twitter.

    It's also extremely effective at driving traffic if you have "TARGETED" followers and none of that BS where you can buy a billion people for a mere $5. Also, stay away from those Fiverr gigs promising targeted followers... I mean seriously? People still think they can buy their way to targeted followers? *sigh*

    Any niche has it's place on Twitter. It's simply one of the busiest websites in the world in terms of traffic so of course no matter the niche there will be people interested in whatever it is you have to sell on there.
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    • Profile picture of the author crissie
      Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post

      It's also extremely effective at driving traffic if you have "TARGETED" followers and none of that BS where you can buy a billion people for a mere $5. Also, stay away from those Fiverr gigs promising targeted followers... I mean seriously? People still think they can buy their way to targeted followers? *sigh*

      Any niche has it's place on Twitter. It's simply one of the busiest websites in the world in terms of traffic so of course no matter the niche there will be people interested in whatever it is you have to sell on there.
      Of course. I agree with you. But what I argue is that you have either managed to do this (and spent long, long hours reaching those targeted ones in the good old days when it was less riddled with fake #followme accounts) or Twitter is close to useless to a new business opening shop now! Its saturated now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
        Originally Posted by crissie View Post

        Of course. I agree with you. But what I argue is that you have either managed to do this (and spent long, long hours reaching those targeted ones in the good old days when it was less riddled with fake #followme accounts) or Twitter is close to useless to a new business opening shop now! Its saturated now.
        Well if we look at saturation, I think nearly every market can be considered saturated due to the sheer amount of people doing it.

        Internet marketing is not about re-inventing the wheel, it's about offering a better wheel to people.

        Every website is virtually spamless when it starts up. Excluding the idiots who believe xrumer is a viable business. Google has improved a lot over the years and has become much better at detecting spam and protecting yoir site from it.

        Yes, it is very hard work but thats how a real business is built, despite the contrary belief of instant profits. Thats called the lottery people...

        Anyways, I would much rather have 10 targeted followers who I know will buy my products rather than a million fake followers who more than likely will not open the email. Social media wi be valuable for just about any niche.

        Ps typing from this phone is a pain.
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        • Profile picture of the author crissie
          Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post

          Anyways, I would much rather have 10 targeted followers who I know will buy my products rather than a million fake followers who more than likely will not open the email. Social media wi be valuable for just about any niche.

          Ps typing from this phone is a pain.
          Oh yes, I absolutely agree with you. But most people still don't get it and they ruin it for us all. Even this forum gets saturated with buy-my-fakes posts...alas!

          PS - A "thanks" is enroute to you for your efforts in typing that very informative post on the phone!
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          • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
            Originally Posted by crissie View Post

            Oh yes, I absolutely agree with you. But most people still don't get it and they ruin it for us all. Even this forum gets saturated with buy-my-fakes posts...alas!

            PS - A "thanks" is enroute to you for your efforts in typing that very informative post on the phone!
            Well this one is definitely coming from a laptop. This forum is saturated with just about anything marketing related because of the sheer amount of people that visit the forum. You have tens of thousands of people viewing the forum all at once and like I said, some people still believe spamming is a profitable business model to live off of.

            They're looking for an easy button that'll make them a lot of money rather than working hard for it. If anyone ever finds an easy button, let me know.

            INB4: Lottery

            This forum isn't so much saturated with the "buy fake posts" or followers but they're obsessed with Fiverr. Something I can't possible understand or comprehend is being obsessed with a website where you're paying $5 for insane promised services. Well there's that and those $7 WSOs that promise $500 a day or more. I read them just for fun or to see the "THIS CHANGED MY LIFE" free reviewers they picked up on the Warriors for Hire section.

            People are always going to try to ruin large scale websites as they start to become popular. If people ever realize that spamming is not only a waste of time but a waste of their efforts as well, then maybe we won't have to shift through nearly as many to see relevant and quality information.

            I'm not sure exactly how these people make and sell all of these "fake" followers but I know even both presidential candidates had them during the debates.

            Fake Twitter Followers - Even Useful For Politicians
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            • Profile picture of the author crissie
              Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post

              Well there's that and those $7 WSOs that promise $500 a day or more. I read them just for fun or to see the "THIS CHANGED MY LIFE" free reviewers they picked up on the Warriors for Hire section.
              I know, right???
              I just ran a WSO this week and was so bummed that i had to pay the bump 3 times as i got run over by all those make-millions-tomorrow-for-$7 posts. It bugs me.

              I guess we live in a world where size matters. Who gives a hoot about quality these days, eh?
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  • Profile picture of the author adamreilly1997
    I agree with about the quality of the traffic, but I also agree with Corey.

    I once set up this Twitter system that drove thousands of people per month and out of around 10,000 people I made ONE sale.

    I don't really use Twitter anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Twitter is good only if you use them as a pay per click medium to promote your online business. In other words, if you pay for followers and do everything in your power to get leads or people to go to your site, this is a very useless strategy in my view.

    Having people follow you means nothing. You will get frustrated more and more as time goes by.

    Again, I would only use them for pay per click.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMMer1975
    I haven't had any luck with Twitter or FB either - of course that doesn't mean anything other than possibly I'm just terrible at harnessing those platforms - but no good traffic from either of those (and don't even get me started on the waste of money with FB advertising!). I know people with massive twitter followers (real ones...not bots) and they generally are good for pure PR but seem to be terrible at any conversion.
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  • What about getting followers to view YouTube videos? I found a few channels that get 200-300K views within a day and they only seem to have Twitter and Facebook accounts with huge numbers of followers/likes. Even when the adverts on YouTube do not pay much, with this amount of views, every video is a winner.
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    • Profile picture of the author crissie
      Originally Posted by affiliated survivor View Post

      What about getting followers to view YouTube videos? I found a few channels that get 200-300K views within a day and they only seem to have Twitter and Facebook accounts with huge numbers of followers/likes. Even when the adverts on YouTube do not pay much, with this amount of views, every video is a winner.

      Ahh but videos is whole new planet. Yes, if you get the targetted market we were just talking about, it does have a positive return.

      But the point is a new business setting up NOW will have such a hard time sourcing that real targetted market that the time required seems unjustified...especially for a one-woman-show like myself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jennwith2ns
      I only use Twitter and Facebook for my writing site as a way to get an online presence. It is basically just so I keep business-related updates and posts separate from my personal ones so my family and friends aren't forced to read it constantly unless they choose to follow me on my business pages. I think for that type of business, it is helpful at least for getting your name out there. However, I don't think I would bother for IM. It is really time consuming and just not worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Twitter is a targeted traffic gold mine.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Social media in general, the strategy is the other way around. Getting followers, not so much.

    Attract people to your business by following and posting to quality people or groups relevant to your space.
    Also, the social signals google is now measuring, and having links back to your sites from your posts on sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author whland
    I've thought of using twitter for webhosting-land but haven't made an account yet. Trying to decide myself if it's worth it or not.

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    • Profile picture of the author crissie
      Originally Posted by whland View Post

      I've thought of using twitter for webhosting-land but haven't made an account yet. Trying to decide myself if it's worth it or not.

      Chad
      I started this very thread because I was thinking the same thing. What I found was the time required to actually get that targeted group to find you or be willing to join you was too much of a work-load.

      i have opted to concentrate on Facebook only.

      I think you have to be willing to put in a good hour a day on each social network to actually get real, worthy results. Two for me is too much.

      I was simply wondering if I was being silly but from what people are inputting to this thread, I might have made the right call.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
        Originally Posted by crissie View Post

        I started this very thread because I was thinking the same thing. What I found was the time required to actually get that targeted group to find you or be willing to join you was too much of a work-load.

        i have opted to concentrate on Facebook only.

        I think you have to be willing to put in a good hour a day on each social network to actually get real, worthy results. Two for me is too much.

        I was simply wondering if I was being silly but from what people are inputting to this thread, I might have made the right call.

        Crissie, you are treating and working FaceBook and Twitter at face value. Meaning you're only looking at it head on. Twitter and FaceBook are to be complimentary to your main business as a means to stay connected with your customer base, your prospects, etc. so when they are ready to buy you're there.

        It's not about going onto Twitter or FaceBook and seeking out prospects but rather sharing access to you through those mediums which people can connect from your main business.

        FaceBook and Twitter is an extension to you and your message/conversation.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianDouglas
    I like twitter for short bursts with readers and just socializing. I haven't tried to monetize twitter, but I have known a few who have it down to a science (supposedly). For me, it's just a place to socialize.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
    I have a different account for each of my main websites. Use it twofold. To manually connect with people talking about my keywords, and to feed my rss updates for backlinks.

    I do see traffic from Twitter, and conversions. Nothing too fancy, but everything helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    There was a time.
    When Twitter was a really good source of traffic. But yes those days are over. Just as Marketers coined the term "Banner Blind". I believe that most Twitter users have become "Link Blind". And with Twitter making huge advances on anti spam and over linking in posts.
    It lost its appeal totally as a Traffic generating platform.
    However!! There always a however.
    It still would be part of my overall SEO strategy for the sake of social signals and link diversity.
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  • Profile picture of the author ceenote100
    I gets lots of traffic and followers every day with Twitter. There's a method I've been using and I stick with it. Go ahead and follow me and see what I mean.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I dont use Twitter much, but when someone follows me i follow them back. Some days i get lots of followers, some days i dont. I dont focus on it alot. But if i wanted 200+ followers by Saturday, i know how to go about doing it - but i prefer to spend that time doing much more effective strategies.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrelk159
    I perfer facebook, I can actually drive traffic there, I never had sucess with twitter.
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    My Twitter account is pretty responsive but I built it up slowly a few years back. I forget I have it for months at a time and still get about 100 visits to a site with a tweet. I honestly haven't been active enough lately to know if that traffic converts as I haven't sent them to an offer in a long time but from past experience most of my followers are not buyers.
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  • I dont get any traffic from Twitter but then I dont really try I just don't get along with social networking at all, I get people that follow me though maybe a couple a week but its setup to my blog when I post it gets sent to Twitter I can't remember the last time I logged into the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author SocialMediaOwls
    What makes twitter so effective is this:

    You make twitter accounts with the BIO filled out about your biz (and the URL of course) and then you set it to go hunt down potential buyers.

    I have a few accounts that follow hundreds of potential clients and it works.

    I get hundreds of uniques per day off of twitter and the conversion is there
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    • Profile picture of the author jsjohn96
      Twitter in general is good for drumming up lots of traffic. High volume with very little input and babysitting on your part. Now, whether or not any of these people buy your product is another problem, and based entirely on how targeted your efforts are to the specific followers who would be interested.

      You could have miles of traffic with little in the way of buyers, but just the same being followed and being "visible" is advertisement all on its own. Unless your product is particularly niche, not only will some of that traffic buy your products, but being that visible will increase the chances of others who don't buy now telling their friends about you, or coming back around later.

      So if your savvy about your use of it, then it could be a real money generator.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    I guess that Twitter works for those who look for people there and directly offer them their products, which is an aggressive and time consuming tactic. Better results are probably obtained with the tools that automatically find the right followers for you.

    However, if you are merely posting your tweets and waiting for followers, you will get only followers who want to be followed back, and not buyers.

    I don’t have time to care about Twitter. In its first years it seemed to be interesting, but now there are so many spammers…
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  • Profile picture of the author Ettienne
    Originally Posted by crissie View Post

    I use Twitter for a personal account to swap silly, everyday messages to my mates.

    Of course that means on Twitter I "live" in the closed world of my friends only. None of them share much other than a good news story, a link to a photo here and there.

    In other words, how effective is it REALLY for an online business in any niche other than maybe sports, news and the odd celebrity one?

    I'e never bothered connecting my sites to Twitter. When I do a search for some keywords all I find is retweets from #ifollowback type accounts. Do they really have any effect on traffic? Am I wrong in thinking that at the end of the day, these such accounts are also a closed network attracting no "real people"?

    Your views will be much appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Twitter offers a truly saturated market filled with too many 'salesy' people spamming the social network like hell. I don't get much of a traffic from them I must say.
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