Article rewrite, over 50% uniqueness rejected

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Hi warriors,

Recently, I rewrited an article (switched a lot of things in it and added new paragraphs) that was over 50% unique. I wasn't able to find any sites with similar text in them (i searched manually on google using quotes).

I posted it on my blog and then over the next 2 days, submitted it to article directories but most of them rejected it or put my account on hold.

Do you think it was rejected in most directories because I put it in my blog before submitting and because I took 2 days to submit to all the directories (it appeared in the fourth directory I submited it to almost immediately)?

I would thank any advice you can give me about this matter.
#50% #article #rejected #rewrite #uniqueness
  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    The probably used copyscape to check them...
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Always use Copyscape and make them 100% unique. Occasionally there may be 1-5% that you can't avoid for some specific reason but always target 100%. I have
    written over 4000 articles and never had any trouble.

    OR if you need help, ask for me or someone with similar skills to assist you.
    It's up to you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
      It is reallly not that hard to rewrite line by line. I usually do that. When you rewrite a lot you tend to get lazy and start skipping. Don't Do That. You really need to rewrite everything. But you can leave a little bit unwritten a very very very little bit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by ivan84m View Post

    Hi warriors,

    Recently, I rewrited an article (switched a lot of things in it and added new paragraphs) that was over 50% unique. I wasn't able to find any sites with similar text in them (i searched manually on google using quotes).

    I posted it on my blog and then over the next 2 days, submitted it to article directories but most of them rejected it or put my account on hold.

    Do you think it was rejected in most directories because I put it in my blog before submitting and because I took 2 days to submit to all the directories (it appeared in the fourth directory I submited it to almost immediately)?

    I would thank any advice you can give me about this matter.
    I think you meant to say that you "re-WROTE" an article. :-) Secondly, with all the changes to the search engines, article directories are much more strict than they used to be. Do yourself a favor and either write unique content or hire a ghostwriter to do it for you.

    Joey
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I think you meant to say that you "re-WROTE" an article. :-) Secondly, with all the changes to the search engines, article directories are much more strict than they used to be. Do yourself a favor and either write unique content or hire a ghostwriter to do it for you.

    Joey
    Well picked up Joey. rewrited... hmm. no wonder there were problems.

    Maybe you do need a ghostwriter like me to help you.
    Or you need to really hone your skills.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
      Awwwww he just made a boo boo

      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      Well picked up Joey. rewrited... hmm. no wonder there were problems.

      Maybe you do need a ghostwriter like me to help you.
      Or you need to really hone your skills.
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  • Profile picture of the author ContentCosmos
    I've always found it best to submit your article to the submission sites first, and then post it on your blog/website once approved. Otherwise you should always use 100% unique content.

    You sound like you're foreign to the English language, so I'm not going to make fun of you, but you should keep spelling and grammar in mind when submitting content on the web. If you can't do it yourself, have someone do it for you. Just for future reference.
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    • Profile picture of the author theimdude
      Originally Posted by ContentCosmos View Post

      I've always found it best to submit your article to the submission sites first, and then post it on your blog/website once approved. Otherwise you should always use 100% unique content.

      You sound like you're foreign to the English language, so I'm not going to make fun of you, but you should keep spelling and grammar in mind when submitting content on the web. If you can't do it yourself, have someone do it for you. Just for future reference.
      Bad advice dude. NEVER submit to directories first but ALWAYS first to you own as you then OWN them as they indexed first. Nothing to do with 100% content
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    • Profile picture of the author Andylinks
      Originally Posted by ContentCosmos View Post

      I've always found it best to submit your article to the submission sites first, and then post it on your blog/website once approved. Otherwise you should always use 100% unique content.

      You sound like you're foreign to the English language, so I'm not going to make fun of you, but you should keep spelling and grammar in mind when submitting content on the web. If you can't do it yourself, have someone do it for you. Just for future reference.
      Sorry, shouldn't the highlighted portion be the other way round? I think content should be indexed on your site or blog first before going anywhere else.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Andylinks View Post

        Sorry, shouldn't the highlighted portion be the other way round?
        Yes, of course it should. This is absolutely fundamental to any model of "article marketing". There's no point in unnecessarily giving an article directory the initial indexation rights rather than gradually accumulating them for yourself.

        The people who do that are the same ones some of whom start off threads with titles like "Why Can't My Own Site Outrank Even A Poxy Article Directory?" and "Is Article Marketing Dead?" (for them, it is). :p

        But there are people who have what one might very politely call "strange ideas" about what "duplicate content" is, and even (a few) people who imagine that article directories require previously unpublished content(!), and unfortunately they say so from time to time, perhaps intending to try to help others while in reality simply regurgitating and perpetuating the "teachings" of the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing.

        Originally Posted by Andylinks View Post

        I think content should be indexed on your site or blog first before going anywhere else.
        Clearly.

        This thread "reveals all": http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html
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  • Profile picture of the author ivan84m
    Thanks a lot to all warriors who replied, your tips were really helpful.

    LOL. I know it's rewrote, just difficult to get out of the habit since I had really bad english teachers during my childhood
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    This whole thread is disgusting me. If you have to re-write line by line all it means is you are a copy-cat, if not a downright plagiarist.

    Get a clue and become an expert in the niches you cover --- um...........ya know, like actually LEARN the subject? Then write your own articles. It beats wondering how you can be a low life without getting caught being a low life. Good grief.
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    • Profile picture of the author theimdude
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      This whole thread is disgusting me. If you have to re-write line by line all it means is you are a copy-cat, if not a downright plagiarist.

      Get a clue and become an expert in the niches you cover --- um...........ya know, like actually LEARN the subject? Then write your own articles. It beats wondering how you can be a low life without getting caught being a low life. Good grief.
      Nothing wrong with using articles to get ideas and to call that plagiarism it is not so why call the guy a low life. How do you write a article on lets say "wind power" do you go and buy a wind generator, install it, test it and then write about you experiences.

      or do you do some research in mr big g that takes you to Wikipedia and there you read about "somebody else s research" and after gathering all the info that was "plagiarized" and some from the manual of the wind generator you read you finally sit down and write a article.

      so then is suppose we all low life hey. And how do you know the OP didn't buy plr articles and then rewrote it :rolleyes:

      I see you sell a lot of PLR and as I am in the weight loss niche you one PLR item got my attention but you claim "The information is from medical studies" so you selling PLR based on medical studies. Did you do them? as if you haven't have you got PLR permission from the doctors that did the research? if yes good if no then you also guilty of plagiarism or do i understand it wrong
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      • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
        Originally Posted by theimdude View Post


        I see you sell a lot of PLR and as I am in the weight loss niche you one PLR item got my attention but you claim "The information is from medical studies" so you selling PLR based on medical studies. Did you do them? as if you haven't have you got PLR permission from the doctors that did the research? if yes good if no then you also guilty of plagiarism or do i understand it wrong
        Researchers are divided in two groups: those who are "owned" by private groups and do whatever it takes to prove what they want to prove, even if they have to lie. And those working with public funds.

        The second group are the ones that are available to the public. The aim is to increase knowledge and advance civilization. Researchers thrive on citations.

        And before you tell me what do I know... well... see the S. Martinez there? it is me

        OLM physica A - Google Scholar

        There is a fundamental difference between plagiarism and research. In research you use the information to create something new. It can be a new idea, or a new angle; you bring forward something that is inside of you based in what you gathered.

        If you are just playing with words and writing things in a different way with no creative process whatsoever... That is NOT research. It is plagiarism.

        Of course... when information is taken as a business, it doesn´t really matter, does it? The bottom line is "conversions", not honesty. If the information is not original, but it is the first time your reader sees it, and it is good enough to fill your pocket... then anything is valid as long as you are not caught.
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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

          Researchers are divided in two groups: those who are "owned" by private groups and do whatever it takes to prove what they want to prove, even if they have to lie. And those working with public founds.

          The second group are the ones that are available to the public. The aim is to increase knowledge and advance civilization. Researchers drive on citations.

          And before you tell me what do I know... well... see the S. Martinez there? it is me

          OLM physica A - Google Scholar

          There is a fundamental difference between plagiarism and research. In research you use the information to create something new. It can be a new idea, or a new angle; you bring forward something that is inside of you based in what you gathered.

          If you are just playing with words and writing things in a different way with no creative process whatsoever... That is NOT research. It is plagiarism.

          Of course... when information is taken as a business, it doesn´t really matter, does it? The bottom line is "conversions", not honesty. If the information is not original, but it is the first time your reader sees it, and it is good enough to fill your pocket... then anything is valid as long as you are not caught.
          Whoah - Sandra - I'm impressed. That must have taken quite some energy:rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
            Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

            Whoah - Sandra - I'm impressed. That must have taken quite some energy:rolleyes:
            It was a lot of fun! That´s for sure.

            I only wrote the first 15 papers of the theory, it took off from there and people still use it. Kind of cool.
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      This whole thread is disgusting me. If you have to re-write line by line all it means is you are a copy-cat, if not a downright plagiarist.

      Get a clue and become an expert in the niches you cover --- um...........ya know, like actually LEARN the subject? Then write your own articles. It beats wondering how you can be a low life without getting caught being a low life. Good grief.
      And in your signature all you sell is PLR Good Grief
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    @HeySal,

    There are clients who specifically ask to have their article rewritten! I know because I get that request frequently from a couple of clients. So please don't generalise by being disgusted when it's an actual method of work.

    Plagiarism is an entirely different ball game. If people are just copying articles, that is pathetic.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      @HeySal,

      There are clients who specifically ask to have their article rewritten! I know because I get that request frequently from a couple of clients. So please don't generalise by being disgusted when it's an actual method of work.

      Plagiarism is an entirely different ball game. If people are just copying articles, that is pathetic.
      If a client is asking to have their OWN material rewritten, that's fine. If they are asking someone to rewrite the work of other people, then they are corrupt and the writer working for them also has sacrificed ethics for money. It's as simple as that. This post did not give me the feel that someone is being asked to rewrite the company's own material. It also did not give me the feel they were rewriting their OWN material. Also - some of these comments showed a prevalent feeling that as long as you do a good enough job of copying to pass google, it's just fine and dandy to do so.

      If we ever expect to keep control of our businesses, and keep regulators off our case, we have a moral obligation to be better than this. Period.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by ivan84m View Post

    Do you think it was rejected in most directories because I put it in my blog before submitting
    No. That's normal - and it wasn't the reason.

    Article directories don't require previously unpublished content.

    All the articles I get accepted by article directories (and I'm an article marketer for a living, so that's a lot!) have originally been published and indexed on my own sites before being submitted anywhere else.

    It's a big mistake to submit to an article directory anything that you haven't published yourself first. The reasons are explained here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

    And in this much longer, older thread, a whole succession of experienced, successful article marketers explain at length and in detail all their shared reasons for always publishing on their own sites first: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

    However, the reality is that if you have cause to be concerned about the "uniqueness percentage" of an article, then it's unlikely indeed to bring any benefits to your business anyway, because probably nobody's going to re-publish it from the directory, and it's not going to do you any good sitting in article directories if nobody syndicates it, is it? This thread may help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872
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  • Profile picture of the author Stevie Johnson
    Hmmm.. wonder if it needed to be more than 50% unique. If it were me I'd be looking at 80% or more in uniqueness. Have you asked them why it was rejected?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Anurag96 View Post

    Maybe you are right. Maybe It is rejected because you posted it first in your BLOG.
    This is just nonsense.

    Article directories don't require previously unpublished content.

    All the articles I get accepted by article directories (and I'm an article marketer for a living, so that's a lot!) have originally been published and indexed on my own sites before being submitted anywhere else.

    It's a big mistake to submit to an article directory anything that you haven't published yourself first. The reasons are explained here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

    Just a little tip, Anurag, but sometimes it really does help to read the thread before you reply to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    You need to rewrite every sentence to make it unique. It's a bit more work but worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Azu Ifeachor
    Rookie mistake!

    You shouldn't submit the same article from your blog to article directories! Next time, write two articles that are unique. One goes on your blog and the other points back to your blog. Once you submit your blog article, be sure to ping it then send out lots of social alerts (eg tweet, FB, etc).

    Then the second article goes to article directories and web 2.0's. Beware: Ezine articles (and some others) only accept 100% unique articles. You may get away with duplicate articles, but better to be on the safe side.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by Azu Ifeachor View Post

      Rookie mistake!

      You shouldn't submit the same article from your blog to article directories! Next time, write two articles that are unique. One goes on your blog and the other points back to your blog. Once you submit your blog article, be sure to ping it then send out lots of social alerts (eg tweet, FB, etc).

      Then the second article goes to article directories and web 2.0's. Beware: Ezine articles (and some others) only accept 100% unique articles. You may get away with duplicate articles, but better to be on the safe side.
      Huh?

      Did you not just read post numbers 15 and 17?

      Alexa is correct, by the way.

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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Azu Ifeachor View Post

      Ezine articles (and some others) only accept 100% unique articles.
      Like many other professional article marketers, I have about 2,000 articles there, none of which was "unique" when submitted.

      Ezine Articles specifically invites its new authors (in the introductory email series they send out, from which you might learn something, Azu) to submit there any previously published blog posts which comply with their editorial guidelines.

      They do the same on their blog.

      They even produce (for those with Wordpress blogs) a special add-on gizmo enabling their authors to publish articles on their blogs first, and at the same time submit them to Ezine Articles for subsequent acceptance and publication there.

      This thread might help you, too: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

      As explained several times above, and in about 100 other threads here by various people who make their livings from article marketing, the mistake is to submit to an article directory anything you haven't already published and had indexed on your own site, for all the reasons explained here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

      Apart from that, well done, Azu.

      Originally Posted by Azu Ifeachor View Post

      You may get away with duplicate articles, but better to be on the safe side.
      You seem confused about what "duplicate content" is? You have it confused with "syndicated content". If it helps you, the difference is explained here: Article Marketers – Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All - Internet Marketing and Publishing Blog

      Article directories don't require previously unpublished content.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Why not just SHOW US the article, hey?
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  • Profile picture of the author Doppelbock
    Rewriting is not a difficult process, and it's not even a lengthy process, it just takes longer than copy paste.


    It's really simple, you read a sentence, ask yourself "What is this saying, in its simplest form?" And then you jabberwalkee it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author cpwebsite
    I wouldn't recommend rewriting articles, as these days more and more places are becoming more strict than they used to be. If you were to write 100% uniqueness articles then you wouldn't ever have this problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivan84m
    thanks alexa your last reply was very helpful to me. And thanks everyone else for your reply according to your own way to do marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Very true Sal. I see your point. There is a difference. It is true that if people are simply rewriting material they have grabbed from others online, it is basically stealing and rearranging words and praying they don't get caught. I hope they get caught and penalised.

    I never sacrifice ethics. I have knocked back jobs I did not feel were ethical.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by ivan84m View Post

    Hi warriors,

    Recently, I rewrited an article (switched a lot of things in it and added new paragraphs) that was over 50% unique. I wasn't able to find any sites with similar text in them (i searched manually on google using quotes).

    I posted it on my blog and then over the next 2 days, submitted it to article directories but most of them rejected it or put my account on hold.

    Do you think it was rejected in most directories because I put it in my blog before submitting and because I took 2 days to submit to all the directories (it appeared in the fourth directory I submited it to almost immediately)?

    I would thank any advice you can give me about this matter.

    I am surprised that no one really made a big deal about the quality of your writing, or more accurately, the lack thereof.

    If you are getting rejected by article directories, the most likely reason is the lack of quality (poor grammar) shown in your writing, more than any other factor.

    Article directories that are successful are those that have editorial standards that ensure that they will remain attractive to the publishers who use them to find well-written articles to publish.

    Hire a ghost writer to create your content, or hire an editor to fix your content after you have written it, then you will see more success in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivan84m
    It was a PLR article, not stolen. I got many as bonus when I bought a WSO.
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