How often do you use a dummy email address in squeeze pages?

38 replies
I have a confession...

As much as I would love to exchange my real address for every bit of info that has a squeeze page and a great headline, I just can't. My inbox is overflowing with spam, as it is, and every marketer I've ever purchased something from is sending me "quality content" :rolleyes: and every other marketer is selling/trading solo ads and I'm just sick and tired of all of the junk.

Do you know what I mean?

So I was wondering... How many of you use your real everyday email address to opt in to squeeze pages? I will only if I have enough information about the offer and the person behind the offer to believe it is a quality product and not a spammer who is going to sell my info to every tom, dick and harry that comes along.

So what do you think? Is this wrong? If the trade is supposed to be my email address for the info and I give an email address I hardly use, would you consider this stealing?
#address #dummy #email #pages #squeeze
  • Profile picture of the author Hrvoje Livnjak
    i use it every time. my own email address.. receive ton of cr*p but opted out from a lot of those.. don't be bothered with it just make a good content filter on your own. since i have all my emails connected through google i just don't have the time to bother with opening some dummy gmail acc just for that stuff..

    hope it helps

    Hrvoje
    Signature

    Professional graphics, 3D covers and mini sites at:http://www.ecoverslab.com

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7417675].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author hgustavs
    I usually use my own e-mail, however sometimes when I get a lot of e-mails I make another e-mail (not a dummy e-mail) connected to the domain name of the service or site. This way I know that the e-mails I get to this account usually concerns that service or issue. This way I can decide when I want to read this mail and donĀ“t get it mixed up with the rest of my e-mails.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7417683].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
    Banned
    Originally Posted by Attraction Marketing View Post

    How many of you use your real everyday email address to opt in to squeeze pages?
    I almost never do.

    My guess is that many people don't.

    This is among the many reasons I don't use squeeze pages for list-building, in my business (though my split-testing results were a far more convincing reason).

    In non-IM, non-MMO niches, I'll sometimes give my everyday email address for an opt-in on a content-rich site I like, but not for a squeeze page.

    I'll do it more readily if I can see that the autoresponder being used is a known one I trust, such as Aweber or GetResponse, from which I know I'll have no difficulty unsubscribing, though admittedly that's only part of the potential problem.

    Originally Posted by Attraction Marketing View Post

    If the trade is supposed to be my email address for the info and I give an email address I hardly use, would you consider this stealing?
    No, not at all. Many people have multiple email addresses and marketers are expected to know that, and offer their "freebie in exchange for your email address" on that basis.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7417696].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Yogini
    I usually will use my main email but can generally tell within an email or two if I will be getting helpful information or just consecutive wso affiliate offers. If it's the latter, I will unsubscribe quickly.

    Debbie
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7417705].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author IM HUNGRY
    I have about 4 email addresses that I use for specific purposes. My main email address is for personal use, another for membership sites and the last two for websites that require it for registration purposes and products. Sometimes I might just make up something if a websites won't confirm it. I still get spam for some reason at my main address but not nearly as much as I used to.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7417724].message }}
  • I always use my real email address. I like seeing the email sequences and quality of copywriting others use. Then I move it to a copywriting "swipe" file. In Gmail, you can even set a filter so that those emails automatically bypass your inbox and go to the appropriate folder.

    And if I think the emails are amateurish or not what I'm looking for, then I unsubscribe. Virtually all of them have an easy-to-use unsubscribe feature. That said, I do NOT subscribe to spammy looking websites, porn, casino, male enhancement pills websites, etc. Once you're on those, your email address will be spammed forever, even if you unsubscribe (if that option even exists). I tend to only give my email address on an optin page for a free ebook, mini course, etc in the information marketing sector. I can usually tell by my gut feeling if it's worth it or not.

    That said, I do get a lot of spam, but I believe it's because I did not use Whois Guard when registering for domain names. Once I enter an email address for contact info on a domain name, and it's a public listing (no name protection), it seems I very quickly start receiving spam on my new email address. So I learned my lesson and use Whois Guard now.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7417729].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author adamj2
      I always use an email address I own. Usually a second email address rather than my main one, but still one that I check and read daily.

      If I know more about the person in question and some sort of relationship has been developed via content etc then I am more likely to put in my main email.

      Either way, I like to check the emails that come through to see what people are promoting nowadays. I can easily unsubscribe so am happy to give email addresses I check daily.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7417917].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
        Banned
        Originally Posted by adamj2 View Post

        I can easily unsubscribe
        I wish I could say the same.

        I could name one very well-known marketer from whose list I found it terribly difficult to unsubscribe, and to which I'd never even subscribed in the first place (his help-desk people eventually managed to unsubscribe me, but I had to be really persistent about it and threaten them with complaints to their domain registrar and hosting company before they "managed it"!). I can't really name the person, though, because he's a Warrior and it would break the forum rules.

        Let's not pretend that there aren't spammers among us, though, and throughout internet marketing? Refusal to acknowledge the problem won't make it go away.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7417957].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author DarioMontesdeOca
    Reading this thread kind of made me laugh because I also have a confession to make:
    I sign up to every single Internet Marketer's list I can find to receive their email updates and study their marketing and copywrting.

    Do I use my main email address? Of course not.

    I receive a new message every few minutes and don't want my main account flooded with way too many emails. It isn't stealing because once in a very great while I actually receive an offer worth looking into and then buying.

    I use my main account for personal contacts and updates on "You've made a sale!"... these emails I love reading.

    If anyone can guess the exact amount of emails I have in this account right now I'll PayPal you $20
    Signature

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7417977].message }}
    • Originally Posted by DarioMontesdeOca View Post


      I use my main account for personal contacts and updates on "You've made a sale!"... these emails I love reading.

      If anyone can guess the exact amount of emails I have in this account right now I'll PayPal you $20
      You mean how many are in your inbox? Or how many are in your email account since you got the email address? Kind of hard to tell the latter, depends how long you've had that email address. If I had to guess your inbox, if you check it daily, I'll guess 22.

      And nice to know there are other people like me who sign up on optin pages to study their copywriting in the subsequent email sequence!
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418478].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author DarioMontesdeOca
        Originally Posted by InternationalWidget View Post

        You mean how many are in your inbox? Or how many are in your email account since you got the email address? Kind of hard to tell the latter, depends how long you've had that email address. If I had to guess your inbox, if you check it daily, I'll guess 22.

        And nice to know there are other people like me who sign up on optin pages to study their copywriting in the subsequent email sequence!
        It's definitely a great way to keep up with the times as well, when I see repeat emails about a product then I know it's a hot product on the market at that moment.

        I also can do a search about any product or keyword and also see the latest email updates from any marketer by name, some names I look up are Frank Kern and Eben Pagan.

        The guesstimate is how many emails in total are currently inside the account that I use to sign up to everyone's email list. It's quite a few and I'm guessing no one will come close!
        Signature

        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418556].message }}
        • Originally Posted by DarioMontesdeOca View Post

          It's definitely a great way to keep up with the times as well, when I see repeat emails about a product then I know it's a hot product on the market at that moment.

          I also can do a search about any product or keyword and also see the latest email updates from any marketer by name, some names I look up are Frank Kern and Eben Pagan.

          The guesstimate is how many emails in total are currently inside the account that I use to sign up to everyone's email list. It's quite a few and I'm guessing no one will come close!
          Yes, good point. I've noticed that too, sometimes you see the same subject or product being promoted by several people. Time to take notice, especially if it's from some of the bigger names. So far I've been lucky, in that it hasn't been too hard to unsubscribe from any lists I didn't want to be a part of anymore. The odd one I had to jump through a few hoops, but so far I've always been able to unsubsubscribe. It's those pure spam emails for medications, sex, dating, replica watches, phishing, etc, that are impossible to unsubscribe from.

          I like the idea of a dedicated email address for these sign ups. I use my main email address so I don't miss out on webinar reminders, etc. And it's one less email account to check. I have several email accounts on the go, like one for my hosting, one for personal and banking, one for my marketing, etc. I just didn't want to add another one.

          And as for the guesstimate as to how many emails in total are currently inside the account that you use to sign up to everyone's email list... hard to say. I have no idea how many lists you've signed up to and how long ago. So, a pure guess - based on how fast mine accumulate - would be 17,582. Am I close, or way off?
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418652].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author DarioMontesdeOca
            Originally Posted by InternationalWidget View Post

            So, a pure guess - based on how fast mine accumulate - would be 17,582. Am I close, or way off?
            Not even close, freezing ice cold
            Signature

            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418832].message }}
            • Originally Posted by DarioMontesdeOca View Post

              Not even close, freezing ice cold
              Hmmmm, OK I'm guessing I underestimated, so in that case, let's say 91,252 - am I getting warmer?
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418952].message }}
              • Profile picture of the author DarioMontesdeOca
                Originally Posted by InternationalWidget View Post

                Hmmmm, OK I'm guessing I underestimated, so in that case, let's say 91,252 - am I getting warmer?
                A little warmer! I might as well tell you.. Its over half a million in one gmail account.

                I look through them once in a while and some headlines really stand out so I use Google's 'star' option to save and take note of those to add to my swipe file
                Signature

                {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7419165].message }}
                • Originally Posted by DarioMontesdeOca View Post

                  A little warmer! I might as well tell you.. Its over half a million in one gmail account.

                  I look through them once in a while and some headlines really stand out so I use Google's 'star' option to save and take note of those to add to my swipe file
                  Wow, I wouldn't have guessed! I've seen people who had over 100,000 emails and I thought that was a lot. Myself, I have about 3,000 to 5000 emails in a Yahoo account and about that amount in one of my Gmail accounts.
                  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7419530].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Micah Medina
      Originally Posted by DarioMontesdeOca View Post

      Reading this thread kind of made me laugh because I also have a confession to make:
      I sign up to every single Internet Marketer's list I can find to receive their email updates and study their marketing and copywrting.
      After my own heart. I have an email address just for this. It's really shocking how much pure garbage is out there, though. If you so much as add a "How are you, it's really rainy in Melbourne today" to your sales pitch, you're in the top 10% of the IM world.
      Signature


      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7420771].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author DarioMontesdeOca
        Originally Posted by Micah Medina View Post

        After my own heart. I have an email address just for this. It's really shocking how much pure garbage is out there, though. If you so much as add a "How are you, it's really rainy in Melbourne today" to your sales pitch, you're in the top 10% of the IM world.
        No doubt! Much of what I see is pure spam and crap.
        Signature

        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7421684].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author jakejoh10
          I usually use my main email address. I have unsubscribed from several lists, but most of the time I'm careful about using my primary email.

          However, it is usually on a squeeze page on which I see an interesting free offer that I use an alternative address.

          Needless to say, this alternative address is filled with spam and other "stuff", to put it nicely :p.

          Jake
          Signature
          If you have any fitness or nutrition related issues, head over to
          JJStrength for tips on getting fit and staying healthy.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7422120].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author karlmay1980
    I have different email addresses for different things, this helps keep things organised, and ensure I don't miss important mail, but I when I sign up to a list I like to evaluate how other marketers work so I check the emails all the time.

    It also helps see what others are promoting so you can see what markets must be making money, its not all bad, although try and do some research before just entering your email in any site, make sure it has some credibility and doesn't sell solo ads as you will know that spam is coming if they do!
    Signature
    Want To Make Your First £10,000 Online?
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418516].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    I very rarely use my main email address for anything other than personal contacts and to pay bills. Squeeze pages and the like get a third-tier email address.
    Signature

    If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418547].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Roslyn Agosta
    I don't use my MAIN e-mail, however I do have an e-mail which I keep specifically for squeeze pages etc, as I know they will pretty much spam you 24/7 with offers which I don't need on my main e-mail address.
    Signature
    Limited availability, Review's required! Get your free copy: http://www.warriorforum.com/wanted-m...ion-world.html
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418554].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author AndrewStark
    If more and more people start to do this and vote with their feet it may help to remove the "churn & burn marketers" who give the whole niche such a bad name.

    When someone sends me join another person's list it's an instant unsubscribe from me, I'm a proven buyer not some daft newbie who'll buy any offer made to me.

    As I do a lot of safelist marketing I have a couple of accounts with several million emails in them that I can use should I ever get curious enough to see who / what is behind a blind offer that is being made.

    Well done for realising that your email is important, and that it deserves to be treated with respect.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418590].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
      I've got a specific GMail e-mail address that I use for most
      of my speculative subscriptions. I only check this account
      once or twice a week.

      If the list owner treats me well, I'll 'promote' them to my
      main inbox. If not, I'll either unsubscribe or stay subscribed
      and learn what NOT to do.

      However, I don't use my main e-mail address to join any
      lists. Instead, I create a unique forwarding e-mail address
      that sends e-mail to my main inbox. If the list owner starts
      playing silly buggers, then I'll simply delete the forwarding
      e-mail address.

      Dedicated to mutual success,

      Shaun
      Signature

      .

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418641].message }}
      • Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

        I've got a specific GMail e-mail address that I use for most
        of my speculative subscriptions. I only check this account
        once or twice a week.

        If the list owner treats me well, I'll 'promote' them to my
        main inbox. If not, I'll either unsubscribe or stay subscribed
        and learn what NOT to do.

        However, I don't use my main e-mail address to join any
        lists. Instead, I create a unique forwarding e-mail address
        that sends e-mail to my main inbox. If the list owner starts
        playing silly buggers, then I'll simply delete the forwarding
        e-mail address.

        Dedicated to mutual success,

        Shaun
        This is a great idea
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7419042].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author DarioMontesdeOca
          Originally Posted by Attraction Marketing View Post

          This is a great idea
          Haven't thought of this one, that is a great idea
          Signature

          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7419142].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author DarioMontesdeOca
      Originally Posted by AndrewStark View Post

      As I do a lot of safelist marketing I have a couple of accounts with several million emails in them that I can use should I ever get curious enough to see who / what is behind a blind offer that is being made.
      Dude, that is a lot of emails. Are you using a free email service to hold all those?
      Signature

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418841].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author garveyonweb
    I usually use the real email; unless the headline which attracted me is not delivered after the click. Then I use an account which I check irregularly. I really couldn't deal with the sunami of spam and junk.

    It certainly is an argument for the 'confirm optin'; not that on balance I don't use confirmed optins.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418985].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Mo Jogee
    I've completely stopped opt-in random squeeze pages unless it's something I desperately require. I hate junk period!
    Signature
    AFFILIATES WANTED FOR
    AUDIO INTERVIEW WITH LEE MCINTYRE EARN 75% COMMISSION

    FOR PROMOTION TOOLS AND SIGN UP PAGE
    ==>CLICK THIS LINK<==
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418986].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author bloggerd
    Never i always use real email if I'm intrested in what's being offered, if your only intrested enough to put fake email then why bother full stop just move on!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7418989].message }}
    • Originally Posted by bloggerd View Post

      Never i always use real email if I'm intrested in what's being offered, if your only intrested enough to put fake email then why bother full stop just move on!
      Because while I'm interested in the topic (I wouldn't have arrived to the page otherwise) I don't want my private email address sold and subjected to spam.

      Not all marketers use autresponders that have an opt out feature and some sell your information to people who spam the daylights out of you. It's awful. One even had the nerve to have an unsubscribe link that took you to a CPA offer wall that says you've been unsubscribed but it's a flat out lie. They sent spam twice a day until I reported them to their hosting provider.

      I mean, really, I used to give my valid information but my information has been abused. Now marketers have to prove worthy of my information in order to receive it. I think this is happening more and more; certainly in the IM niche and will continue to spread to other niches if we are not careful.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7419039].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Cheeth
    I would create an extra email address from your gmail account (if you have one)

    For example if your email is tom@gmail.com I would enter this into the subscribe field

    tom+immail@gmail.com, this make it extremely easy to filter out the mail in your inbox,

    Alternative I also filter emails out using the "unsubscribe" keyword this is a good way but above is the best way you should use from now
    Signature
    YouTube Views 100% Adsense Safe
    Yes our YouTube views still work because we use PTC networks with real traffic, never had a video banned in 3 years of service ->
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7419229].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I use my real name and email address in squeeze pages. But i rarely sign up to most squeeze pages. You'd have to be a Dan Kennedy, John Carlton, or Jay Abraham to get me to subscribe.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7419586].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author KristofferIM
    I sign up with a gmail account specifically created for autoresponders.

    Then I have gmail automatically label and archive all future emails.

    That's how you build a nice little email swipe.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7419673].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      I use several email addresses, not my main ones. When I can't get unsubscribed, their next messages go into the spam folder. Any names I don't recognize also get sent to the spam folder as my email has obviously been sold and they don't have permission to use my email to send offers. There are often quit a lot of those unknown senders, so into the spam they go.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7420751].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author JimDucharme
    As the song says: It's a matter of trust. Unfortunately the actions of some markerters who have no respect for their customers have affected the entire industry in a negative way and the legitimate marketers are constantly trying compensate for the damage done.

    The better question perhaps Denise, is what have we done to earn the trust of people such as you? And is it too late?

    Regards,
    jim
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7422129].message }}

Trending Topics