Anyone get neck and shoulder pain while marketing

by Michael Gentry 61 replies
I am a full time IMer and obviously spend a lot of time on the computer which has caused me neck and shoulder pain. I had to go to the doctor and he perscribed me a muscle relaxer. Its kind of funny that I am in reasonably good shape. I ride the treadmill at a very fast pace everyday for an hour with no pain at all. Anyway I was just wondering.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christie Love
    Used to have continuous pain in my neck, back, and hand. Now, I visit my chiropractor every other week. She does wonders. I am pain free for the first time in about 13 years... without medication.

    Oh, yea running without properly stretching after then sitting at the desk all day will ensure that you will get neck and shoulder pain. Be sure to stretch properly and take multiple breaks. I have reminders remind me throughout the day to break.

    Hope this helps. Ouch.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Gentry
      Actually, I do properly stetch before working out and it makes me feel wonderful and no pain and it helps in every aspect of my life except when I am on the computer for more then approx. 2 hours. Its kind of strange. Thanks for reply
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      • Profile picture of the author Jelasco
        I've been sitting in front of a PC for 25 years and never had any pain in shoulders, neck, hands, etc.

        I actually thought carpal tunnel syndrome was made up until I met someone who had it.

        I'm not doing anything special beyond using a decent office chair with back support, so I don't have any advice for preventing it. I think getting up and taking breaks every hour or so helps.

        If your keyboard is at the wrong height or too far away, forcing you into a slumping or bent over position, I can see how that wouldn't help.
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      • Profile picture of the author Anthony J Namata
        Hi mikeg514,

        Cardio workout alone isn't going to do the job - there are so many muscles and joints you don't get to recruit when you just run - you want to incorporate some resistance training and to give it the whole body approach. By the way, I'm a qualified personal fitness trainer.

        Hope that helps,
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        • Profile picture of the author waken
          Me learning to have a balance between work, exercise and socializing now. It's rather unhealthy sitting all day long looking at the pc.

          And I find that productivity drops after certain hours in front of it. So, balance up to achieve more.
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          • Profile picture of the author J. Barry Mandel
            If you have great posture it shouldn't be too much of an issue...

            Otherwise a good tip is to use a timer and every 30 minutes get up to stretch out for a couple of minutes at a time.

            You can install a FREE timer on your computer to alert you to take a break.
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            • Profile picture of the author Aurora9
              I get shoulder pain and also a little bit of eyestrain from sitting at the comp for a long time. Most times I'm so absorbed in what I'm doing that I forget to take a break.

              But have been more conscious about it in recent times.

              Still it pretty much flies out of the window when I'm on a deadline. A free timer on the comp though sounds like quite a workable solution.
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              • Profile picture of the author Bob Montgomery
                Just happened to read this post. I have been having a lot of neck pain (trapezius pain) which I believe is caused from sitting at the commputer for long periods. I've tried getting up and stretching every so often, have even tried accupuncture and a vibrator. Not much has helped so far. I'd go to the chiropractor or doctor but I don't believe they would offer much more than what's been said in this forum and they're a lot more expensive.

                I'm still looking for some relief so I'll let you know if I find it. I'd be interested in any other suggestions also.
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                • Profile picture of the author TheVCF
                  YES!

                  I typically run three (3) computers at a time and right now how we have them set up I have to twist back and forth between computers, as I am now ...

                  which causes me neck and back pain over the course of a long day online, you know? ...

                  We know we need to:
                  1) reconfigure our office so I don't have to twist back and forth between computers and ...
                  2) we are planning on using Dragon Naturally Speaking, which we gave my copy to one of the people working for us and needed it more than I did, so I can "talk to" one of my computers while I type on the others!
                  - Do any of you currently use Dragon Naturally Speaking?
                  It's Really Cool!

                  But I am still looking for Better ways to more efficiently run multiple computers simultaneously too!

                  I hope this all helps and Have a Great Day!

                  - Michael
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                    • Profile picture of the author Ricter
                      Upright rows. Front raises.

                      I've been a desk jockey for decades. I get that pain when the muscles, targetted by those exercises, have atrophied. Those exercises work like a charm every time.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Kalidasa
                        Wow, so many people with body issues, maybe I should run a wso on my product.

                        No, I don't have problems, but that's becuse I know how to deal with them with natural techniques.
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                        • Profile picture of the author JonnyAndrews
                          Indeed! It seems I hold all my stress in my left shoulder... then when that fills up it starts in on my right. Total suck factor of like 13.9.

                          Thank GOD my girlfriend is tolerant! I have her literally stand above me and do this move like something out of the WWF! But it works.

                          Last time she had to really work me over I believe... and I'm not kidding... the phrase "Go go Gadget pain center!" slipped out.

                          She's still laughing about that.
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                        • Profile picture of the author buckapple
                          Hello,

                          I can tell you one thing I see ever so often. (I'm a licensed massage therapist) and maybe it will help someone. IF you wear glasses that are bifocal, a lot of times a person may tend to cock their head back a little, to quickly see something through the bottom of their glasses.

                          Several times of doing this can add up to a pain in the neck.

                          The ideal situation without getting too technical here is to have someone observe how you sit and look at your screen, how you are sitting in the chair, the angle of your arms extending to the keyboard. Just that simple observance sometimes will zero in on where you are pushing the limits...

                          example:

                          I wear reading glasses (no bifocals) to look at the LCD screen, the way mine is set up with minimal cocking of the neck backwards is the top of the LCD is even (level) with my eyes, thus looking down at the screen ever so slightly with my eyes, my head stays straight, even with my shoulders if looked at from the side...natural like.

                          The head has some weight to it, if it's bent forward or cocked back you're putting a strain on your neck muscles.


                          Hope this helps,

                          Gary
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                          • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
                            Originally Posted by buckapple View Post

                            Hello,

                            I can tell you one thing I see ever so often. (I'm a licensed massage therapist) and maybe it will help someone. IF you wear glasses that are bifocal, a lot of times a person may tend to cock their head back a little, to quickly see something through the bottom of their glasses.

                            Several times of doing this can add up to a pain in the neck.

                            The ideal situation without getting too technical here is to have someone observe how you sit and look at your screen, how you are sitting in the chair, the angle of your arms extending to the keyboard. Just that simple observance sometimes will zero in on where you are pushing the limits...

                            example:

                            I wear reading glasses (no bifocals) to look at the LCD screen, the way mine is set up with minimal cocking of the neck backwards is the top of the LCD is even (level) with my eyes, thus looking down at the screen ever so slightly with my eyes, my head stays straight, even with my shoulders if looked at from the side...natural like.

                            The head has some weight to it, if it's bent forward or cocked back you're putting a strain on your neck muscles.


                            Hope this helps,

                            Gary
                            Spot on

                            You need to take reguar breaks from the computer.
                            Lighting should be good
                            Make sure you're sitting in a decent chair (not something cheap and nasty or old)

                            I've just paid $600 for a computer chair, and it's one of the best investments I've made for years even tho hubby wants to put it away somewhere so no one can sit on it lol

                            Kim
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                            • Profile picture of the author joshbond
                              I get this a lot too. The best advice I can tell you and what usually works for me is to just take a break and walk around more.
                              Sometimes I'll catch myself working for 4 or 5 hours straight without stopping. Thats usually when I notice problems.
                              If you just get in the habit of taking a break and walking around or stretching once an hour or more it will help a lot.
                              Also make sure that your chair isn't what is causing the problem.
                              I used to have a chair that I thought was ok but then I switched to a new chair and its been WAY better. So you may try some different chairs or positions in the one you have and see how that works.
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                              • Profile picture of the author OMI
                                I just got back from a 1 hour massage to help with that and I feel GREAT! I, too, sit in front of the comp most of the day and even at night with my laptop.

                                You'd be surprised at what can affect your muscles. If they get too tight, they actually bend and pull your spine. People that see a chiropractor can get their spine is re-aligned, but I love the peace and quiet and just getting pampered. There's a Yoga place right next door to my massage store that I may try, too.

                                I have a monthly membership to http://www.massageenvy.com, a nationwide chain of massage therapy stores. There's a couple within a 5-10 minute drive from me.

                                Oh yeah, a good mattress will do WONDERS! I got a new mattress last year and man do I sleep better.
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              • Profile picture of the author Anthony J Namata
                Originally Posted by Aurora9 View Post

                I get shoulder pain and also a little bit of eyestrain from sitting at the comp for a long time. Most times I'm so absorbed in what I'm doing that I forget to take a break.

                But have been more conscious about it in recent times.

                Still it pretty much flies out of the window when I'm on a deadline. A free timer on the comp though sounds like quite a workable solution.
                Sitting on a stool helps you maintain posture (no slouching, coz you can't); and better still, sit on a SwissBall (which is what I do). It is great for posture; incredibly good for strengthening your midsection; and it isn't sooo comfortable that you'll forget to take a break!

                As for the shoulder pain, get a set of 3KG dumbells and do lateral raises intermittently - right there at your desk, and the pain will eventually go away.

                Hope that helps
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  • Profile picture of the author Easy Cash
    Yes - this is a common thing

    The muscle holding your shoulder back is under strain due to your mouse hand/arm working so hard.

    The muscle ends up pulling your shoulder forward.

    What I did to get rid of it.

    1. Change your pillow that you use. Make it higher or adjust the height.

    2. Bend your back over a bar or backwards over a chair (or something stable) on each section of your spine. Right over with your arms. This loosens up your spine.

    Do it continuously for a few weeks.

    Works for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Heather Bestel
      Some really great advice on this thread.

      Having a supportive chair can make so much difference when you are sitting in front of the computer for long periods. Having regular breaks is crucial too.

      We sometimes forget that the neck and shoulder area is a common place for us to hold on to stress. So, taking time out everyday is very important, even if it's just to relax for ten minutes.

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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Well I been here for 23 years ... Last 15 years I have been online 7 days a week 15 - 18 hours a day. I used to get pains but I guess I have been here for so long my body is used to it ..lol

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    • Profile picture of the author melanied
      I do tend to slouch quite a bit while I work, which gives me neckaches and headaches. I need to stop that!
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      • Profile picture of the author Ricter
        You'll slouch less with more strength. The strength solution is the least expensive to implement and has the most additional benefits.
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  • Profile picture of the author tamtu
    I used to not any more, what I did was changed my chair, placed the key board and mouse at a more convenient place.[Key board on my lap and mouse on the chair].
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    • Profile picture of the author JeffersonB
      my left arm is killing me
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      • Profile picture of the author jhongren
        My neck and shoulder (esp the back) hurts...think it is the posture of sitting in front of the pc the whole day. :_(
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        • Profile picture of the author VegasVince
          Some nights after a long battle on the computer...I feel a tingling sensation all over my body.

          What's that all about...and should I be concerned???




          xxx Vegas Vince
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          • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
            Originally Posted by VegasVince View Post

            Some nights after a long battle on the computer...I feel a tingling sensation all over my body.

            What's that all about...and should I be concerned???

            xxx Vegas Vince
            Probably a totally crap posture Vince and not taking enough breaks. Honestly you can really damage yourself doing that

            Cheers
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            • Profile picture of the author VegasVince
              Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

              Probably a totally crap posture Vince and not taking enough breaks. Honestly you can really damage yourself doing that

              Cheers
              Kim


              Thanks Kimmy......good advice on the posture....cuz tryin' to watch the game.....and porn....and provide content rich information to Warriors requires more twisting and bending then I'm capable of at this stage of my life.

              xxx Vegas Vince
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              • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
                I spend about 8 hours on my PC and only have a break to get a coffee or got to toilet, i even eat my lunch at the PC.
                I dont get backache but i do tend to get a lot of headaches
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                • Profile picture of the author buckapple
                  Hello,

                  If you're getting headaches from using a computer a lot, you "may" need to get your eyes checked or try some low number reading glasses, run it past your MD.

                  Gary
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                  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
                    There's some good information at this site
                    DOHS | Ergonomics Homepage

                    If you aren't going to do the ergonomically correct stuff, at least do the stretches.

                    I have degenerative disc disease of the c-spine (neck), arthritis in the neck and shoulders, and carpal tunnel. It's a bitch. Stretching helps the neck and shoulders. Vitamin B6 is good for the carpal tunnel.

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                    • Profile picture of the author jhongren
                      Now my eyes are dry and painful. So maybe such pain can be included too. :p

                      John
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                      • Profile picture of the author sylviad
                        I have neck pain problems that date waaaay back to when I spent 25 years as a typist. The problem comes from sitting in one spot for too long without a break.

                        Another problem I learned from my optometrist is that computers (and TV watching) can cause eye problems because we don't blink as often when staring at those monitors as we normally do when we're looking around a room. So that's something else you might want to watch.

                        The solutions are quite simple actually. The problem is how to get into the habit, which can be hard when you're focused on work.

                        If you can set a timer for every 1/2 hour - stop work, get up from your computer and stretch out your shoulders, back, legs, arms... for about 3 minutes or so. Get into the habit of looking away from your monitor even more frequently so you exercise your long vision and actually blink for a change.

                        Although sitting at the computer might not sound like something that causes stress, it does. Perhaps not the stress you think of when you have a problem to resolve, but the body stress from sitting in one place.

                        Hope this helps. There are specific exercises you can do to prevent neck, back and eye problems but I don't have them. Here's a site that has soem good info and exercises - it's by one of those neck/back pain products featuring the wooden people:

                        Backrelief.com

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                      • Profile picture of the author Raquel
                        Originally Posted by jhongren View Post

                        Now my eyes are dry and painful. So maybe such pain can be included too. :p

                        John
                        I used to have eye problems when I first started in IM because for 2 yrs I was as using desktop without an eye protection, although the monitor is on eye level I still encounter eye pains at the end of the day (usually after 12 plus hours staring at the computer). After 2 yrs, the pain becomes sharper I was really concerned, a friend advised me to use eye drops once in a while to get rid of dry eyes. After doing it for a while, I read somewhere that being dependent on eye drops is not very good, and it is better to just drop a clean cold water on your eyes if it gets dry.

                        But when I finally got a laptop, and I can adjust the angle of the monitor comfortable for my eyes, i totally get rid of eye drops. Then I visited an optometrist to get an anti-glare eyeglasses (never thought of that when I was starting in IM). Now the eye pains are all gone...

                        Thanks for the heads up on the shoulder and neck care advice here..I think we all need that. I too have neck and back pains...
                        I never been hospitalized since birth, I was hospitalized last July for stomach problems, because I hardly eat on time when I started in IM
                        Yes...we should take care of ourselves, being on the PC for long hours thinking and working is a tough job that could affect our health....
                        Thanks for this post and reminding us to take care of our health.
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          • Profile picture of the author sylviad
            Originally Posted by VegasVince View Post

            Some nights after a long battle on the computer...I feel a tingling sensation all over my body.

            What's that all about...and should I be concerned???

            xxx Vegas Vince
            Now, I'm no expert but it sounds like you're cutting off circulation by sitting so long... and from having bad posture. It's tempting to slide down the chair so that our backs are no longer straight. I do it all the time and have to remember to sit up straight now and then. Tell me, does your butt ever get sore? Mine does when I get so slouched that I'm sitting on my tailbone.

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            • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
              I have fibromyalgia, arthritics, disc disease, migraines, neck pain, leg pain, eye pain, chest pains, hand pain, etc.

              By reading some suggestions on this thread, I will try some of them. The one that I know that I can afford right away is to stop sitting for long periods without taking breaks.

              Thanks for all of you.
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              • Profile picture of the author sylviad
                Originally Posted by logocheckout View Post

                I have fibromyalgia, arthritics, disc disease, migraines, neck pain, leg pain, eye pain, chest pains, hand pain, etc.

                By reading some suggestions on this thread, I will try some of them. The one that I know that I can afford right away is to stop sitting for long periods without taking breaks.

                Thanks for all of you.
                Wow! I've had people tell me about their pains and it always makes me feel extremely fortunate because mine is strictly neck pain - with arthritis from all those years sitting in one pose. Although, lately I've been getting eye pain and I'm positive it's from staring at the monitor all day long. If you have eye pain, it could be eye strain, like mine. I need my glasses changed, but resting my eyes by taking a complete day off helps a lot. Check your vitamins too. I think it's Vitamin A for the eyes, so if you aren't eating enough of the right foods, you could be lacking this vitamin. I regularly skip (or skimp on) meals. When I go back to my 1-a-day vitamins, I feel much better.

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                • Profile picture of the author Christie Love
                  Here's another suggestion.

                  Make sure that your area is ergonimically correct for you specific height. This will make a world of different. Get a chair that has back and lumbar support. It's possibly due to your positioning.

                  You'll want to stretch before and after your workout. Emphasis on the after part or you will literally be stuck when you cool off.

                  Also, get an adjustment. It works wonders.
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                  • Profile picture of the author sylviad
                    Originally Posted by Christie Love View Post

                    Here's another suggestion.

                    Make sure that your area is ergonimically correct for you specific height. This will make a world of different. Get a chair that has back and lumbar support. It's possibly due to your positioning.

                    You'll want to stretch before and after your workout. Emphasis on the after part or you will literally be stuck when you cool off.

                    Also, get an adjustment. It works wonders.
                    One of the most amazing pieces of egonomic furniture I've ever seen was a chair without a back. Well, ok. A stool - but not a typical stool. It had a place for your feet and the seat part was tilted in such a way that it was impossible to slouch. When I saw the guy sitting in it, I thought how uncomfortable that must be trying to hold your back straight without any support whatsoever.

                    Surprise! It was extremely comfortable. The way the seat was formed, you couldn't help but sit straight. It forced your back straight. Amazing. I think chair backs and arms make us lazy. There's a lot to be said for proper ergonomic furniture, as opposed to furniture "claiming" to be such.

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                  • Profile picture of the author jedz
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                    I think i'm lucky enough because I do not usually experience such pains except when I'm very stress and had tight deadline to finish.
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                • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
                  I took a very long walk today and went to the lake and just hung out for about an hour with my son's dog.

                  Coming back was more difficult because I had not taken breakfast nor the diabetic medication before I left the house so I was very dizzy and had chest pains. I may have over done it today. Yet, I am very glad that I pushed my self as hard as I could.
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  • Profile picture of the author tremayne
    I think it's called tension. That's when mine hits...or maybe it's just old age in my case!
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    • Profile picture of the author Blade Runner 77
      me too, I get a pinched nerve on my right shoulder. Its much worse depending on my feet position. With both feet flat on the floor it barely happens, feet under the chair will do it everytime. Posture, posture, posture
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    • Profile picture of the author JeremyL
      "Posture, Posture Posture!" is what my Physiotherapist keeps telling me.
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      • Profile picture of the author JeremyL
        LOL! Didn't see 105724's reply a minute before mine. I guess from pain comes wisdom
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        • Profile picture of the author Kerwan
          Well I have been watching this screen for 3days now with the weather being so odd here there is bound to be a silver lining some where and it does pay off.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeCollins
      Yea, I've found myself suffering from some back pain lately from too many hours of work (I'm sure wrestling with my kids and giving piggyback rides doesn't help either).

      I need to revamp my workspace a bit and pickup a more comfortable chair to sit in while working from home...and maybe check out a chiropracter too.
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    • Profile picture of the author johnmiley
      A lot of neck pain is caused by postural strain and tensing muscles to hold yourself in the "computer position" without pause.

      If you want a product that helps relieve muscle tension, aches and pains, I have a great product for that, and one I use constantly as a natural health practitioner.

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      Like I said, if you want to try it out, go for it. I use it all the time, from computer aches to overdoing activities, to strained muscles I get from carrying my kids around.

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    • Profile picture of the author talewins
      A know-it-all told me about four simple exercises that would cure or at least alleviate neck pain. After a month or so, I tried the exercises and in just four days the chronic pain was completely gone. But I keep forgetting to do the exercises on a regular basis. When the pain becomes debilitating I remember to do the exercises.
      #1: Put both hands on top of your head and gently pull down. At the same time, use your neck muscles to tilt your head backwards at the same time.

      #2: Put your left hand against your jaw and gently push against the jaw. At the same time, try to turn your head to the left.

      #3: Put both hands under your chin and gently push up. At the same time try to pull your head down to meet your chest.

      #4: Put your right hand against your jaw and gently push against the jaw. At the same time, try to turn your head to the right.

      You don't want to overpower your neck muscles, just restrain them.

      Posture.. Too many people don't know what correct posture is. I am probably the world's worst offender. I searched for years to find a good guide. A few months ago, I did. It comes from Ventura Design. All I have is the demo but has really helped me see what good posture is and how much it matters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gunter Eibl
    If I wouldn't go to the gym three times a week I would look like Quasimodoa already. Outsourcing helps to ease the pain too

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  • Profile picture of the author maxlife
    If you seem to be suffering from back pain, you can try active-on. A buddy of mine was experiencing pain that caused her to have headaches. She used active-on and it worked for her. Maybe you could try it until you find a solution to prevent the pain.
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  • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
    Yes, this used to happen to me until I moved my easy chair into the study, park my feet on a poof, and use the keyboard on my lap. The monitor is slightly below eye level on the low bench I created at leg length away Makes all the difference in the world. Also take regular breaks and long walks. Now I can sit all day and night without any problems. Its all about comfort.
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    Raquel,

    About your eating pattern (or not-eating), is what's affecting your stomach. Eat regularly. An apple, a banana, all constitute a mini meal. Do that every 3 hours. Don't eat junk. Please :-) And take your vitamins. I wrote an article recently The Brutal Truth About What Went Wrong With the Food Chain

    Hope that helps,

    Anthony
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