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PPV or Solo Ads to Build a List?

by Tyler Pratt
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What is the better option to building a large email list.

PPV or Solo Ads?
#ads #build #list #ppv #solo
  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    Solo ads would be more targeted. PPV is a little bit more advanced because its less targeted. Solo ads allow you to directly target your niche and communicate a message to your target audience who has already taken action on someone else's list. You will not run out of solo ads sources if you pay and get access to directories, build relationships with marketers in your niche, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
      I would go with solo ads just because of the success that come with them ...

      BUT ... (here's your big butt)

      Do some research on who you purchase your solo ad from.

      There are many great warriors that consistently over-deliver and get tons of positive reviews ... look for them
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  • Profile picture of the author rogersjbr
    Solo ads would be my choice if I had to choose between the 2. Like mentioned above do some research before you start purchasing!
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    • Profile picture of the author saqarra
      Originally Posted by rogersjbr View Post

      Solo ads would be my choice if I had to choose between the 2. Like mentioned above do some research before you start purchasing!
      Is there a member on this thread who can recommend a list for a noob?
      Thanks, Jon
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  • Profile picture of the author jaggyjay
    Do both. Have your cake and eat it too!

    Seriously though. CPV will give you faster results. Solos will give you more targeted results as already has been pointed out.

    Either way, be sure to test everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashflowbaby
    Solo ad will get you there faster
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    • Profile picture of the author Tyler Pratt
      wow I figured there would be more people saying PPV

      I guess I thought PPV would be cheaper to build faster
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      • Profile picture of the author Q-Writers
        Originally Posted by Tyler Pratt View Post

        wow I figured there would be more people saying PPV

        I guess I thought PPV would be cheaper to build faster
        Yes, PPV would be cheaper but Solo ads will give a quality list, a list interested in your niche and some times you might get a buyers list as well. Having said so, I still believe you should try both and see which one works better for you. In Internet Marketing niche, there is no thumb rule. Its all about testing, tweaking and scaling which works for you...
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    Which ever route you decide to go, DO NOT buy solo ads from fiverr
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Solo ads. You get to target your prospects specifically.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
    Since I don't do paid ads I don't really know anything about this to be honest. A question: where do you buy PPV ads?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nics
    I prefer to Zig when they Zag... I like PPV
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyler S
    Solo ads, look for ones that have great reviews.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Montgomery
    I would say both, solo ads would get my vote though if I was to choose one of them because as mentioned they are very trageted but I love PPV and you can get some quality traffic from this so this is why I say go with both.
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  • Profile picture of the author Niranpr
    I recommend Solo Ads. You can build your list and cover cost , if you have a good OTO
    or proved funnel in follow up emails.

    After gain at least 300 sub you can start ad swap with other in warrior jv section
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  • Profile picture of the author jlcs
    For me, solo ads is the best for beginner start building traffic.
    Once made some money try other traffic method.
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    • Profile picture of the author wordpressdoctor
      Bought my first solo ad today, ordered 100 clicks for $37. My campaign was sent to my squeeze page. The results in my aweber account showed that I had over 30 opt ins from 102 unique clicks.

      Bought my this solo ad from http://www.safe-swaps.com

      They have an awesome rating system, look forward to see how this works out.
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      • Profile picture of the author saqarra
        Originally Posted by wordpressdoctor View Post

        Bought my first solo ad today, ordered 100 clicks for $37. My campaign was sent to my squeeze page. The results in my aweber account showed that I had over 30 opt ins from 102 unique clicks.

        Bought my this solo ad from http://www.safe-swaps.com

        They have an awesome rating system, look forward to see how this works out.
        I've purchased 6 solo ads from safe-swaps and had no success so I've dumped them.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
    Only way to find out is to test. PPV will be cheaper, but you can't expect that traffic to know anything about the industry so your options of products to promote is limited.

    Solo ads are expensive and may not always back out. Fake info, fake clicks, fake signups, are all a possibility. Not to mention the fact that someone selling solo ads basically screams "I can't make money with my own list so I have to sell solo ads".
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  • Profile picture of the author leegs
    Originally Posted by Tyler Pratt View Post

    What is the better option to building a large email list.

    PPV or Solo Ads?
    Hi Tyler Pratt,

    Solo ads will be the way to go if there are only 2 methods to choose here in this case. Based on my experience, solo ads are more targeted as compared to PPV although it is more cheaper.

    Of course, you may like to test it out to track the conversion rate of which method converts better for you.

    Lastly, solo ads might have some returns back after you have invested.

    Hope it helps...

    Talk soon,
    Ray
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  • Profile picture of the author thetrafficguy2
    The best is PPV. The reason it is because the solo ads lists are the lists with little buyer and all the people on the list are on 50 other lists. The list is too crowed and not worth anything, for you business. If you buy buyers solo ads thats different, but they are highly expensive and hard to find real ones.

    The reason i like ppv is that the people are new and not over competive yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Harry Art
    I recommend solo ads, to get good ppc you will have to pay from $1.00 up to $3.00 per click, and maybe 1 out of 3 will be interested and opt in, example : PPC $1.00 per click 200 clicks would cost you $200.00 30% opt in rate (which is above average) 15 opt ins.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    Both have their purposes and it depends on what is your purpose.

    Understand this:
    - PPC or PPV will usually get you "fresh" leads that can be receptive to your offers
    - Solo ads leads are quite "recycled" because they can be in many lists so you have to fight for their attention.

    If your intention is to built a big list to sell solo ads, perhaps the route of solo ads will be good.

    But if your intention is to make money as an affiliate for products, perhaps PPV and PPC (and even sales) will be a good idea.

    So what's your purpose?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sakki
    In general, what are people's conversion rates from using PPV versus solo ads? A lot of you are saying that solo ads are more targeted, but does this translate into it creating better conversions?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tyler Pratt
      Originally Posted by Sakki View Post

      In general, what are people's conversion rates from using PPV versus solo ads? A lot of you are saying that solo ads are more targeted, but does this translate into it creating better conversions?
      This is a good question, I have purchased solo ads and get opt ins, but the opt in to conversions can be, well not that good. My OTO is a $7 ebook and 2 bonuses.

      Is there anyone getting better conversion from optin to paid with PPV vs. Solo?
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  • Profile picture of the author Coby
    I'm shaking my head in disbelief...

    I really believe that several of the folks that have commented on this thread have never used PPV...

    Now, don't get me wrong... I LOVE me some solo ads...

    But thinking that PPV isn't targeted is simply spreading bad advice...

    Now, if you were to purchase RON (run of network) traffic then yeah it's not nearly as targeted...

    But with PPV you can actually get VERY targeted as you can target certain URLS... And you can target specific countries... So, if you are targeting folks in the "list building niche" you could use PPV to pop your ad up on sites like Aweber.com, GetResponse.com and even urls of list building products (or their buyers page)...

    So, don't go thinking that PPV isn't targeted, PPV is about trial and error and practice practice practice to get the maximum results.

    But... I don't suggest a "newbie" jump into PPV and try to build a list. I think it's best to start with Solo Ads first then branch into PPV and then you can use both at the same time and keep scaling and scaling...

    I personally use both and recommend trying to master both of them.

    Hope I could help shed some light

    Cheers,
    Coby
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
    o.k My question again: where do you buy PPV ads?
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  • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
    I recommend PPC over PPV. I havent personally tried it, but Ive heard from several people that PPC is the fastest way you can build a list of buyers. Though note you gotta know what you're doing as PPC can get very expensive.

    Solo ads is awesome also but make sure you only order the clicks from reputable sellers that HAVE buyers. You see solo ads do give you sign ups but the subscribers are mostly tire-kickers who want free stuff. Though there are exceptions to this.

    Try out both, you can never have too much traffic :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    well, there are a lot of people who claim that PPV is the best cheap traffic
    you can get.

    I tried it out on directCPV and used the run of network option where you
    can ultra cheap traffic for $0,004. I made a run of about $7,5 and got a lot
    of traffic with 0 leads. I had an ultra slick squeeze page where only the
    email was required. I used a very broad niche, weight loss (what else, right?),
    but it turned to be a bad decision.

    then I used the keyword option which increased the price. at least the
    targeting function was there, I thought...

    the results: again ZERO leads. Am I allowed to say that PPV sucks? Or will
    some experts tell me: "You did it wrong, dude, buy this course...."
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    • Profile picture of the author ChadRichards
      Originally Posted by seoed View Post

      well, there are a lot of people who claim that PPV is the best cheap traffic
      you can get.

      I tried it out on directCPV and used the run of network option where you
      can ultra cheap traffic for $0,004. I made a run of about $7,5 and got a lot
      of traffic with 0 leads. I had an ultra slick squeeze page where only the
      email was required. I used a very broad niche, weight loss (what else, right?),
      but it turned to be a bad decision.

      then I used the keyword option which increased the price. at least the
      targeting function was there, I thought...

      the results: again ZERO leads. Am I allowed to say that PPV sucks? Or will
      some experts tell me: "You did it wrong, dude, buy this course...."
      DirectCPV sucks. That's your problem. Stick with TrafficVance or LeadImpact.
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  • Profile picture of the author TomYevsikov
    Originally Posted by Joseph Latham View Post

    I have built list using solo ads and cpv ads. So far the best way is by selling your own products and getting a buyers list. This is the best for me.
    Yeah but what if you're a newbie and don't have your own product?

    you still need to build a list right?

    everytime I personally want to try PPV I see more and more comments about how broad your offer should be for PPV, and I don't want it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by seoed View Post

      well, there are a lot of people who claim that PPV is the best cheap traffic
      you can get.

      I tried it out on directCPV and used the run of network option where you
      can ultra cheap traffic for $0,004. I made a run of about $7,5 and got a lot
      of traffic with 0 leads. I had an ultra slick squeeze page where only the
      email was required. I used a very broad niche, weight loss (what else, right?),
      but it turned to be a bad decision.

      then I used the keyword option which increased the price. at least the
      targeting function was there, I thought...

      the results: again ZERO leads. Am I allowed to say that PPV sucks? Or will
      some experts tell me: "You did it wrong, dude, buy this course...."
      That's actually not completely uncommon for a first attempt...

      My first attempt got like 2 optins and I was so disappointed...

      But the thing with PPV is you just have to keep trying different things.

      There could have been a number of reasons why you got zero leads...

      For example, 1) your squeeze page could have been too big for the PopUp and so the form wasn't showing to the visitor 2) Graphics loaded too slow/missing/not viewable on all devices 3) server couldn't handle traffic and site went down or loaded slow 4) redirect or tracking link error 5) bad targeting (or lack of)

      Now, PPV isn't for everyone, and I'd be lying if I wasn't glad that many people have a bad experience the first time. But it does work and it does have it's "quirks"... I've been using it for over 6 months and still consider myself a "newb" but the more I use it the better I get and the better my results get.

      Originally Posted by TomYevsikov View Post

      Yeah but what if you're a newbie and don't have your own product?

      you still need to build a list right?

      everytime I personally want to try PPV I see more and more comments about how broad your offer should be for PPV, and I don't want it.
      Your offer doesn't always have to be "broad" that's only if you are going to try to use RON (run of network) traffic. In fact, I suggest you NOT use RON traffic for most list building and instead just target specific urls.

      Of course, if you are going into an extremely small niche, it might be a waste of time. It will work best for "big" niches like make money online, weight loss, golf, coupons, etc

      This works great when you don't have your own product, here's a way to do it...

      You find a product you want to promote at Clickbank (or your favorite affiliate marketplace). Make sure the product has a "video" on the sales page, preferably one that offers a tip.

      Create a landing page that says "Learn One Tip To Better xxxx" and then after they optin you redirect them using your affiliate link to the sales video.

      You could also do something similar using CPA offers, this works good in niches like coupons, they optin then you send them to a CPA offer for a gift card or something.

      Don't give up on PPV - it's a great way to build a list. :-)

      Cheers,
      Coby
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      • Profile picture of the author TomYevsikov
        Originally Posted by Coby View Post

        That's actually not completely uncommon for a first attempt...

        My first attempt got like 2 optins and I was so disappointed...

        But the thing with PPV is you just have to keep trying different things.

        There could have been a number of reasons why you got zero leads...

        For example, 1) your squeeze page could have been too big for the PopUp and so the form wasn't showing to the visitor 2) Graphics loaded too slow/missing/not viewable on all devices 3) server couldn't handle traffic and site went down or loaded slow 4) redirect or tracking link error 5) bad targeting (or lack of)

        Now, PPV isn't for everyone, and I'd be lying if I wasn't glad that many people have a bad experience the first time. But it does work and it does have it's "quirks"... I've been using it for over 6 months and still consider myself a "newb" but the more I use it the better I get and the better my results get.



        Your offer doesn't always have to be "broad" that's only if you are going to try to use RON (run of network) traffic. In fact, I suggest you NOT use RON traffic for most list building and instead just target specific urls.

        Of course, if you are going into an extremely small niche, it might be a waste of time. It will work best for "big" niches like make money online, weight loss, golf, coupons, etc

        This works great when you don't have your own product, here's a way to do it...

        You find a product you want to promote at Clickbank (or your favorite affiliate marketplace). Make sure the product has a "video" on the sales page, preferably one that offers a tip.

        Create a landing page that says "Learn One Tip To Better xxxx" and then after they optin you redirect them using your affiliate link to the sales video.

        You could also do something similar using CPA offers, this works good in niches like coupons, they optin then you send them to a CPA offer for a gift card or something.

        Don't give up on PPV - it's a great way to build a list. :-)

        Cheers,
        Coby
        Awesome tip coby, what is the minimum deposit required for a good PPV network? thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    That's actually not completely uncommon for a first attempt...

    My first attempt got like 2 optins and I was so disappointed...

    But the thing with PPV is you just have to keep trying different things.

    There could have been a number of reasons why you got zero leads...

    For example, 1) your squeeze page could have been too big for the PopUp and so the form wasn't showing to the visitor 2) Graphics loaded too slow/missing/not viewable on all devices 3) server couldn't handle traffic and site went down or loaded slow 4) redirect or tracking link error 5) bad targeting (or lack of)

    Now, PPV isn't for everyone, and I'd be lying if I wasn't glad that many people have a bad experience the first time. But it does work and it does have it's "quirks"... I've been using it for over 6 months and still consider myself a "newb" but the more I use it the better I get and the better my results get.
    Thanks for your comments.

    Interesting, I never thought about 1) and 3). How can we check if this was the case or not?

    Are there any other "tricks" to know? I already bought some guides and did what was written there but it didnt really as written above. Sometimes I think that PPV is simply trial-and-error
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by TomYevsikov View Post

      Awesome tip coby, what is the minimum deposit required for a good PPV network? thanks.
      I believe it's $100 at Direct CPV and $200 at Lead Impact if I remember correctly.

      Originally Posted by seoed View Post

      Thanks for your comments.

      Interesting, I never thought about 1) and 3). How can we check if this was the case or not?

      Are there any other "tricks" to know? I already bought some guides and did what was written there but it didnt really as written above. Sometimes I think that PPV is simply trial-and-error
      If you search Google you can find tools that will help with issue 1, as for 3 - it's hard to know unless you just happen to visit your site when it's down.

      And I agree with you - I think PPV is mostly about trial and error.

      Also, a good guide to help you is Jason Parker and Charles Kirkland's Ultimate List Building Secrets WSO.

      Hope this helps

      Cheers,
      Coby
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      • Profile picture of the author Nics
        I second this. I got it too and it was great!

        Originally Posted by Coby View Post

        Also, a good guide to help you is Jason Parker and Charles Kirkland's Ultimate List Building Secrets WSO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    If you're just getting started solo ads no doubt.

    Remember to have a profitable sales funnel, or you will lose money either way.

    PPV is much harder to get opt-ins, but is cheaper if you can find as I say "marketing leverage".

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  • Profile picture of the author seoed
    DirectCPV sucks. That's your problem. Stick with TrafficVance or LeadImpact.
    How about their price model and min. deposit?
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by seoed View Post

      How about their price model and min. deposit?
      Traffic Vance has a $1000 deposit and you NEED a referral...

      Lead Impact has a $200 deposit.

      Both sites have the same (or similar) pricing models as Direct CPV.

      Some networks do perform better with certain offers - it's hard to tell though, again the trial and error thing.

      PPV networks are like Autoresponders - everyone will have their opinions on which one is best and which one to use. But I think it depends on the offer and you should test it on all available networks that you use.

      Cheers,
      Coby
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      • Profile picture of the author Coby
        Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

        For every 500 hits you might get a handful of optins...you know..do the math.
        Yes, let's do the math...

        500 hits at a penny a piece = $5

        A handful of optins = 5 (one for each finger)

        Cost per optin = $1

        Now - assuming someone has a good funnel in place - the $5 spent is easily recouped.

        Now, I also buy a LOT of solo ads, sometimes as many as 30 in a month (one for each day)....

        Now, when I'm buying solo ads - I'm thrilled when I get opt-ins for $1 for the same reason as I'm thrilled when I can get them on my list using other traffic sources for $1 or less because I know my funnel will "break even" almost immediately...

        Now, obviously this isn't comparing apples to apples, but when done correctly PPV can be very rewarding...

        Now, about the myth that this traffic doesn't buy... Just look up stuff by Charles Kirkland, who is a Clickbank Apex Elite member (multiple times) and you'll soon realize the majority of the traffic he used to make CB Apex elite was from PPV or email lists he built from PPV...

        Now, if you are too lazy to continue with trial and error - that's cool and if you want to keep thinking it's crap traffic, that's also cool... But don't spread bad advice, that's NOT cool

        Cheers,
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        • Profile picture of the author Coby
          Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

          If you wanna be a PPV rag..go ahead.

          I don't need to look up Charles frikking Kirkland.

          I could equally say, your spreading bad advice about PPV.

          You consider $1 per optin on PPV traffic good?...that absolutely SUCKS...which is why I ditched it.

          $1 per optin PPV?...

          It SUCKS dude...that SUCKS!

          $1 per optin on the LOWEST grade ball bag Sh*** traffic money can buy?

          Obviously this is personal opinion.

          hmmm....ok...keep chatting to Charles Kirkland then..knock yourself out with it.

          First, Thanks for such an intelligent response - I especially like the use of the word "sucks"!

          I didn't say $1 per optin was GOOD - I was just using the math from YOUR example...

          I'm comparing it with the cost of solo ads - which easily run $1 per optin, especially with some solo ad sellers selling them for as high as 60 cents a click...

          I've gotten much cheaper Cost per optin using PPV than when using solo ads - I've also gotten much more responsive readers...

          It's funny you call its low grade traffic, yet I am able to target member's areas of products where only BUYER'S hang out...

          I rarely have a PPV campaign that results in zero buyers... however, it's not uncommon to do a solo ad and get zero buyers...

          It's all in how you utilize and target your traffic and build your funnels... The same thing can be said about solo ads. I've had students that tried solo ads and had terrible results because they didn't have a proper funnel set up or didn't know where to find good solo ad sellers.

          Now, I love solo ads and will probably never stop buying them and I recommend all new list builders start with solo ads first. However, once you learn to use PPV correctly you tend to go longer and longer between solo ad buys, lol.

          Don't base something on a few attempts of your own - just because you have bad results doesn't mean your results are typical.

          Feel free to Google "Coby Wright list building" and view any of the 31,000 results if you think I spread bad advice

          Cheers,
          Coby
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          • Profile picture of the author RAGolko
            You just have to test your offer and see which converts better. That is of course if you have an offer you've decided upon. If you don't have the offer then you've got some basic research to do first. There are other legitimate ways and your choice will depend on a number of factors including demographics, the market you are buying the solo ads from and of course your offer. I agree with the person who spoke about solo ads in the IM niche. Basically we are sharing each others lists here on WF. A new launch goes out and I get literally 8-15 emails from people with the same offer, all competing against each other, hence all the pile-on bonus offers to persuade people to buy from this one instead of that one.

            I am starting to 'think outside the box' and go outside the closed-community method. Some of the biggest names in IM (Frank Kern, I could name others) are using OFFLINE marketing to build their lists more than any other method.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
            Originally Posted by Coby View Post



            It's funny you call its low grade traffic, yet I am able to target member's areas of products where only BUYER'S hang out...

            Cheers,
            Coby

            Well, this comment got my attention inmediately. Can you filter your targeting like this with PPV? Which network?

            Can I target Spanish speaking countries only with PPV?

            Thanks a lot
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            • Profile picture of the author Coby
              Originally Posted by Alex Barboza View Post

              Well, this comment got my attention inmediately. Can you filter your targeting like this with PPV? Which network?

              Can I target Spanish speaking countries only with PPV?

              Thanks a lot
              You can do this with all networks. You will be required to do a little research to find the urls, but you can also target clickbank order forms, help desks, etc.

              You can also target by country - so you could target spanish speaking countries... You can also target URL's where those that speak spanish hang out - in case you wanted to targeted spanish speaking people in other countries where the language isn't "native".

              Hope this helps.

              Cheers,
              Coby
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              • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
                Originally Posted by Coby View Post

                Hope this helps.

                Cheers,
                Coby

                Of course it helps. Thanks a lot for that. One more question: which PPV network do you reccommend to a PPV newbie like me? Which one first?
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          • Profile picture of the author Coby
            Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

            Hi Coby,

            Jeff Johnson, he's just about one of the biggest underground traffic getters out there.

            And guess what?..the dude HATES, repeat HATES PPV traffic.

            In fact he's actually BANNED it from his affiliate program.

            Probably because it's crappy junk traffic that takes up space which is better spent on subs which stand half a chance of being sold to and buying something.

            In fact there are probably a freaking gazzillion reasons why he's banned that source.

            But I can't read his mind and I've never met the guy...I just know he's banned it completely.
            Hi DrunkenMonkey (if that is your real name),

            Great example - one guy hates it and banned it from his affiliate program...

            I'm glad to see that your posts are not opinion based...

            Your cold hard facts have convinced me... PPV traffic is complete junk - I will never use it again...

            Thanks for the enlightenment - you are a valuable asset to this forum and I look forward to more of your golden nuggets and impressive use of the english vocabulary

            Cheers,
            Coby
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  • Profile picture of the author Waiora
    Solo ads are a great option but can dent your wallet quickly if you're short on funds or don't know how to make your money back from them. PPV is a much cheaper route, I've built great interactive lists with PPV methods though.
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    I use both and I've gotten the best results from solo ads. Solo ads require much less work other than providing your swipe email while you have to farm urls in PPV.

    DirectCPV is awful. Definitely stick with LeadImpact.
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  • Profile picture of the author AymanGham
    honestly, PPV Traffic rocks when you know how to use it. Need a good tracking software to remove no-converting URL. But, you need to know hot to run it. If you don't know hot to use it, track it well you can loss money. I recommend you to buy courses before and then you will be able to get a lot of traffic and leads (HIGH QUALITY) for the great price.
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    If you want highly targeted traffic that will convert to possibly highly targeted leads FAST but obviously not FREE, I would do SOLO ADS.

    As long as your Solo Ad is simple and to the point and gets them INSANELY curious to click to see what it's all about you should pull in a nice amount of leads. You can find nice sellers here on the warrior forum.

    -Omar
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Test and refine your squeeze page with the cheaper PPV traffic. If you can get it to convert at any kind of decent %, you'll kick butt with solo ads. PPV for inexpensive conversion improvement.... then the more expensive solo ads for awesome conversion rates. That's the smart way, imo.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    I not understand why people are often so lucky with solo ads like this;

    "wow I got great opt ins", "I got massive amounts of leads" ...and so on

    My goal is not to have an amount of leads and subscribers-no, the only one importent thing for me is
    the sales rate- conversion rate, that is what I looking for not the amount of leads.

    Make business, build a stable business, grow up ,make money, build capital- this is business, so you need sales that is all the goal.


    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    I test every traffic source for myself against my squeeze page and offer. No point asking others on a forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edlund88
    Solo ads
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  • Profile picture of the author osamaye360
    solo ad is still the best as long as the seller is a professional and the promised clicks are delivered.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeal
    I agree with Coby, as far as I am aware PPV can be very targeted. If you are careful with your keyword selection by researching the search volumes and the strength of the competitiveness you can create some very targeted campaigns. And yes as you say, you can pop over a selection of URL's also. I don't think they all do it bt ome of the PPV networks will let you mix the campaign with keywords and URL's.

    Hope that helps
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