Digg Just Screwed All Of US- Using Framed Pages Now

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I just discovered today that Digg does not appear to be giving link love any longer.

I just did a routine search on a keyword phrase for a niche that I market to and was really surprised to see that the listing in Digg had a unique generated url going to my domain which ended up being in a Digg.com framed page.

I did not notice this a few days ago you so Go check out any of your Digg page listings and see for yourself.

Frank Bruno
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  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    The good stuff always seems to come to an end at some point. The good news there will always be something new. the nature of the internet. And article marketing will work (hopefully!) for quite some time yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
      Originally Posted by xlfutur1 View Post

      The good stuff always seems to come to an end at some point. The good news there will always be something new. the nature of the internet. And article marketing will work (hopefully!) for quite some time yet.
      Yea like Myspace was really hot. Now everybodys migrating over to Facebook.

      Also I wouldn't be surprised if EZA started doing what dig does and using framed pages or if other bookmarking sites started follow suit.

      Frank Bruno
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Frank,

    You may be right about EZA and social bookmarking sites doing the same.

    To be honest about it, I heard that Google was going to give social bookmarking links as much weight as they once did this coming year anyway. I don't know how correct this info is, but I do know that Cutts addressed it at some point on his blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Are you really surprised?

    Doing that doesn't affect their proposition at all - it just gets rid of the people abusing their system for their own purposes.

    It was bound to happen - they're not stupid.

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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      Are you really surprised?

      Doing that doesn't affect their proposition at all - it just gets rid of the people abusing their system for their own purposes.

      It was bound to happen - they're not stupid.

      Andy
      I agree with you partially except that the word abuse is more of a blanket statement that doesn't apply to a lot of people.

      Digg is basically yanking the link love accross all forms of websites including news portals,etc that a lot of people bookmark.

      Indeed the're not stupid but not quick enough to actually to take a proactive measure. They could of made this change many months ago even years.

      Frank Bruno
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    • Profile picture of the author Darth Executor
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      Are you really surprised?

      Doing that doesn't affect their proposition at all - it just gets rid of the people abusing their system for their own purposes.

      It was bound to happen - they're not stupid.

      Andy
      Quite the opposite, the only people left will be the serious abusers and the non-marketers. I can still think of ways to abuse digg, only now it'll be less suspicious with all the dumb competition gone.
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  • Profile picture of the author ajiabs
    Well a number of forums and social book marking sites are doing teh same. Everybody want to keep all the love for themselves
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  • Profile picture of the author Stallion
    Oh no. You mean webmasters will have to go out and get real links instead of spamming up digg?
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    • Profile picture of the author Brawnydt
      Originally Posted by ReadMeFirst View Post

      Dump Digg, move on. I mean really your just using Digg like a loose woman so why are you surprised?
      Wow! That was blunt and to the point lol... It was only a matter of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    I really only use digg to get indexed in google faster.... as long as it still does that I dont care what they do..

    you cant really rely on social media for links any way,, it's mainly just for a quick temporary result nothing long term
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
      Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

      I really only use digg to get indexed in google faster.... as long as it still does that I dont care what they do..

      you cant really rely on social media for links any way,, it's mainly just for a quick temporary result nothing long term
      Exactly. Thats the whole point. The issue is that from what I can see with this new framed pages, is that your site will no longer be indexed in Google from Digg. I'm sure more bookmarking sites will follow this protocol.

      Guys if your insinuating that using Digg is my complete marketing plan you got me rolling on the ground laughing. I'm merely sharing what I found today when checking some of my links for a niche on Digg.

      Frank Bruno
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Google can, and maybe does, follow the links in an iframe. The URL of the page still needs to be in the code, that hasn't changed. It's only the code that surrounds the URL that has.

    Someone should actually test this to see how Google really handles it, as Google is going to do what's best for Google.

    Also, Digg is putting other sites' content in a frame using Digg's domain name. Not sure about the legality of this, as frames make it appear in the address bar that the content is hosted by Digg.

    I can see the popularity for "break out of frames" scripts to increase:
    "break out of frames" - Google Search
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post


      Also, Digg is putting other sites' content in a frame using Digg's domain name. Not sure about the legality of this, as frames make it appear in the address bar that the content is hosted by Digg.

      This is what I'm referring to.

      Frank Bruno
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by Frank Bruno View Post

        This is what I'm referring to.

        Frank Bruno

        I thought you were refereing to what you said in your first post:

        I just discovered today that Digg does not appear to be giving link love any longer.
        And in your second post...


        Exactly. Thats the whole point. The issue is that from what I can see with this new framed pages, is that your site will no longer be indexed in Google from Digg. I'm sure more bookmarking sites will follow this protocol.

        Guys if your insinuating that using Digg is my complete marketing plan you got me rolling on the ground laughing. I'm merely sharing what I found today when checking some of my links for a niche on Digg.

        As I said in my own first post, Google can still give "link love" if a page is in frames if they want to...And I posed a legal/ethics question to the use of frames.

        Sorry, but I didn't see you make either point.

        I also suggest you test to see if Google follows the frame URL or not. They may/may not now, and this could change in the future. However, "loving" a URL in frames is no harder/easier from a coding standpoint than the same URL using href.

        And there's evidence that Google is influenced by the content used in iframes, however I haven't tested this in a couple of years.

        But thanks for the post and this is an important change we all should keep our eye on. The truth is, pretty much ALL linking seems to less useful for SEO purposes...Directories of all types, comments, articles, bookmarking, etc. seem to have less impact, or are on Google's "hit list".
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisByrns
    the web is evolving.. personally, i wouldn't ever rely on services like digg and the likes - google is evolving, too.

    in the end, a good site with good content and natural backlinks will rank.. good.
    sure, you can prolly optimize your site a bit, using lsi and all but believe me: in 5 to 10 years there won't be such a thing like "dominate google in a week".
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  • Profile picture of the author Loco.m
    I haven't been a fan of digg for a long time
    ever since they banned my whole url, because someone submitted a page to get me banned..lol
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  • Profile picture of the author patJ
    What! This totally sucks.. i had several hundreds of links from digg.
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    I use digg for indexing only, don't really spam them for link.

    Nevertheless, digg still a good way to get traffic, if you have good content. I know the traffic won't covert directly, but if you have a good blog, some will follow you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

      I use digg for indexing only, don't really spam them for link.

      Nevertheless, digg still a good way to get traffic, if you have good content. I know the traffic won't covert directly, but if you have a good blog, some will follow you.

      And this is where a site is really "getting screwed", it's with the secondary links gained by being in Digg, which is a factor of having good content.

      Now, if someone finds a good story/article in Digg, they will copy/paste the URL from the address bar, which now points to Digg, instead of the rightful owner of the content...Assuming Google doesn't treat frames the same as a redirect.

      Digg can do what they want with their own site, with the exception that now they may be stealing content as well as links. Once the blogoshpere figures this out, I wouldn't be surprised to see Digg change their tune.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
        A lot of people don't get it. What this means is that Digg will outrank you for your own content 9 times out of ten. No quick indexing, no link juice, and I've heard they use ads on their bar too?

        Content theft is illegal and I hope that Google smacks them or someone takes them to court. You can use break out frames to stop this, but the first thing I'm going to do is remove all digg this buttons from my blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author MeTellYou
    I never knew that Digg was so powerful! so many people got upset! You know what? we're a smart bunch... we'll be ok
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