Solo Ads vs Free WSO treads? which has higher opt ins for squeeze?

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Hi guys, Im creating a report at the moment that will compliment a paid offer that I will affiliate from warriorforum, my question is has anyone seen better results from comparing the 2 when it comes to optin rates for the main squeeze page?


For example I had one course where someone created a solo ad and had a squeeze page that converted for them at 53%, but usally in 70% range. after 3k clicks

Now I had another person who had a squeeze page convert 94% after 3k clicks. but created a free WSO thread to get the optins directly instead of a solo on someones list.

Im about to build a list but im deciding if I should go the paid traffic solo ads from services from WF or just do a free thread and spend 40, and use the funds to reinvest to bump it again.



I figured if its a thread directly on forum that maybe that may have to do with the high optins to the squeeze page. Basically less hops. When compaired to a SOlo ad. Users have to open email, read click optin and so on. anyone had experience with both? if so has it made a difference on opt in rates for squeeze page using direct threads from forum?

cause I figured if its possible that makuing a free WSO will be more cost effective if I only pay 40 and people just need to opt in. possibly make a sale then to pay 70 for 200 clicks or so. the CPC would be cheaper especially if I double check the EPC in warrior plus.

but then theres less of a guruntee of op ins for a direct thread also but. if its possible and im sure it is then 40 would be a cheaper cpc then say 70 for 200 clicks on a solo. any thoughts of what you think I should try 1st?

thanks in advance guys
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  • Profile picture of the author lesterlim85
    Jason, there's really no hard and fast rule to the results, you just have to test and then see the results.

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  • Profile picture of the author jason1985
    yea i figured that, just curious to hear from those who did either or both.
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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    The problem with free wso offer is that you will have a very less time in which to get the optins. Within a few hours your offer will be down the page and might not get much exposure after that unless you promote that offer through your signature.
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    Interesting debate.

    I have defiantly had more success with offering a free WSO than I have with solo ads. I have tried both. I find I get much more targeted and responsive leads from free WSOs. But my favourite is building up buyers lists. I find these leads to be way more responsive and ready to buy.

    Just my 2c
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    You can do both and see the results you get from both.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMDealBox
    Each product has different conversion rates. One might perform better with Solo Ads, another with optin - free WSOs...only testing will answer!

    However, if your offer is enticing enough, the WSO thread should outperform solo ads!
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  • Profile picture of the author jason1985
    thx for input guyz, yea interesting question indeed !
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Killian
    You've probably already thought of this, but you should try to test the squeeze/copy before going either way. Might save you some money learning from trial and error.

    I have not done a free WSO, but I would think you'd have a better chance because people can see you, how long you've been here, ect. Your a real person here that posts, interacts, ect. Should get more trust than a solo ad.

    Just a thought
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  • Profile picture of the author TomYevsikov
    Obviously solo ads will have a higher conversion rate since they dont jump through hoops like in a free wso, however free wso subs are much more targeted than solo ad subs, in my EXP.

    I do both all the time anf these are my results.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsced
    I haven't tested this but have used both. I think a free wso will outperform a solo ad every day of the week. My recent wso got 56 opt ins (with no actual promotion) You won't get that with a solo ad for the same price unless the marketers list is useless - which a lot of them are anyway.

    Even though with a wso they have to jump through one more hoop to get the product, you get the chance to pre sell them on the WF before they get to your squeeze page.

    Personally I put solo ads waaay down the bottom of the barrel when it comes to paying for leads. It's just common sense that these leads are either "freebie seekers" or/and people who will only spend a very small amount of cash.

    It has gotten to the stage where I cringe now when I hear marketers giving advice to newbies telling them to build their list through solo ads and ad swaps. It's counterproductive to building a responsive list.

    With a free wso you also have the advantage of your wso being on the forum for a long time. So you can promote it in your signature and even get a lot of more subscribers by giving it away in the war room. Couple these tactics together and a free wso blows a solo ad out of the water every single time.
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  • Profile picture of the author leegs
    Originally Posted by jason1985 View Post

    Hi guys, Im creating a report at the moment that will compliment a paid offer that I will affiliate from warriorforum, my question is has anyone seen better results from comparing the 2 when it comes to optin rates for the main squeeze page?


    For example I had one course where someone created a solo ad and had a squeeze page that converted for them at 53%, but usally in 70% range. after 3k clicks

    Now I had another person who had a squeeze page convert 94% after 3k clicks. but created a free WSO thread to get the optins directly instead of a solo on someones list.

    Im about to build a list but im deciding if I should go the paid traffic solo ads from services from WF or just do a free thread and spend 40, and use the funds to reinvest to bump it again.



    I figured if its a thread directly on forum that maybe that may have to do with the high optins to the squeeze page. Basically less hops. When compaired to a SOlo ad. Users have to open email, read click optin and so on. anyone had experience with both? if so has it made a difference on opt in rates for squeeze page using direct threads from forum?

    cause I figured if its possible that makuing a free WSO will be more cost effective if I only pay 40 and people just need to opt in. possibly make a sale then to pay 70 for 200 clicks or so. the CPC would be cheaper especially if I double check the EPC in warrior plus.

    but then theres less of a guruntee of op ins for a direct thread also but. if its possible and im sure it is then 40 would be a cheaper cpc then say 70 for 200 clicks on a solo. any thoughts of what you think I should try 1st?

    thanks in advance guys
    Hi Jason1985,

    I have tested both and the conversion is no guarantee as it will depends on your offer.

    I would build a buyer list whether you are using either solo ads or free WSO.

    To make it even better, try to have a $1 WSO to earn back some returns but the offer must be good and of value. But the good thing is that you will be able to build a buyer list from this WSO.

    Hope it helps...

    Talk soon,
    Ray
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    I think free wso will get higher result if you can have converting headline n good offers...
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
    Try them both. They are both list building. With solos you get a mix some good buyers, and some floaters, but with a free WSO thread you get freebie seekers which is ok if you have great list management and can convert to them. Your follow=up and headline is going to make that happen for you. I would use both.
    The free will need to be promoted though taking the cost to do so up. You have the thread cost and then some banners, time posting with the link in your sig.

    Hell you could even do the thread and send solos straight there to get the views up and hop that people post. Just look for providers that have WF members on their lists. Find all the friends you can and send them to the thread asking them to leave some comments bumping the thread. This will only help a bit though as that is one busy section. Good luck and let me know when you thread is live. I will have a look and help out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    My highest ever opt in rate (85%) came from posting a free WSO. My lowest ever opt in rate (2%) came from posting a free WSO. Solo ads are always fairly consistent and around 30-60%.
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