Can someone tell me why my site is doing so badly?

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Hi guys

This site is doing really poorly in search results;

lettings-direct.com

Its targeted at UK users in southampton

Ive tageted keywords, used meta, set up links, H tags, titles , content & keywords....

Yet when searching for lettings, renting, flats, houses ect and the word southampton no where to be found

What advice would you give?
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  • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
    Originally Posted by Jaydowg View Post

    Hi guys

    This site is doing really poorly in search results;

    lettings-direct.com

    Its targeted at UK users in southampton

    Ive tageted keywords, used meta, set up links, H tags, titles , content & keywords....

    Yet when searching for lettings, renting, flats, houses ect and the word southampton no where to be found

    What advice would you give?

    Firstly, you haven't said how long you have been developing this site.

    Sometimes, it can take a while for google to rank it well.

    I don't have much time to review, but firstly, the title of the home page is very spammy.

    You mention Southampton 3 times and letting 3 times and rent twice.

    Clearly a no no. Just once of each would be best.

    Get cleverer with your wording.


    Incidentally, the site looks bad in firefox with headings all over the place. Check it out and see why your html is causing this.

    After just writing the above, I have just checked the source code to your home page and from a search engine rankings point of view, it is ATROCIOUS. It really is.

    I don't know what program you or your webmaster used to create the page but I would seriously consider firing them or getting your money back.

    There is just too much code bloat to even try to tell you where you are going wrong.

    PLEASE PLEASE get yourself a basic book on HTML, with a bit of CSS thrown in. Read some of it and you will soon see just how badly the page has been written.

    Unless you rewrite the page in MUCH better html markup code then you are practically wasting your time.

    Don't mean to sound harsh, but that is the truth.

    Tidy up the code (a lot) and build some links as a first step and it will do much better.

    Steadyon
    (SEO hitman)
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      I just went to your site, and using firefox browser there are some problems.

      Your red headings are all over the place and covering the letters in the paragraphs.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jaydowg
      Originally Posted by Steadyon View Post

      Firstly, you haven't said how long you have been developing this site.

      Sometimes, it can take a while for google to rank it well.

      I don't have much time to review, but firstly, the title of the home page is very spammy.

      You mention Southampton 3 times and letting 3 times and rent twice.

      Clearly a no no. Just once of each would be best.

      Get cleverer with your wording.


      Incidentally, the site looks bad in firefox with headings all over the place. Check it out and see why your html is causing this.

      After just writing the above, I have just checked the source code to your home page and from a search engine rankings point of view, it is ATROCIOUS. It really is.

      I don't know what program you or your webmaster used to create the page but I would seriously consider firing them or getting your money back.

      There is just too much code bloat to even try to tell you where you are going wrong.

      PLEASE PLEASE get yourself a basic book on HTML, with a bit of CSS thrown in. Read some of it and you will soon see just how badly the page has been written.

      Unless you rewrite the page in MUCH better html markup code then you are practically wasting your time.

      Don't mean to sound harsh, but that is the truth.

      Tidy up the code (a lot) and build some links as a first step and it will do much better.

      Steadyon
      (SEO hitman)
      What is it in the html that makes it particularly ATROCIOUS?

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    Hi

    You may have optimized your site but have you done much in the way of building back links?

    You can do this in a number of ways.

    1. One simple method is to use a signature on forum posts - you will be best targeting forums specific to your niche - maybe any student forums in based in your area once you have properties to rent? This not only brings targeted traffic to your site but builds back links. Make sure your comment are productive and add value though, don't spam.

    2. You could also write articles in your niche, subjects could include mortgages, rent vs buy. There is unlimited things you could write about. You can post these to an variety of article directories. See here for a List Of Top 50 Article Directories By Traffic, PageRank

    3. Another good way to build back links is to comment on blogs specific to your niche. So, type in your keywords on Google, followed by 'blog'. Post constructive comments on the blog - again no spamming! You have the opportunity to leave your back link as a link to your site (with or without anchor text). You will also need to check if it is a 'do follow' blog. This means that search engines can follow your link. You can check these here at the Do Follow Blogs Directory.

    If you start doing this you should start to see improvements in your rankings - as well as more targeted traffic coming to your site.

    Another option would be to try a targeted PPC campaign. I am not an expert in this but there are plenty on the forum whho would be able to give you some tips!

    Hope this helps!

    David
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    • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
      Originally Posted by dave_667 View Post

      Hi

      You may have optimized your site...

      Just in case it helps you too David, the site in question HASN'T been optimised. Take a look at the html code for the page. It is extremely badly written.

      Google will have some problems crawling through all the garbage, just to get at the content!

      Cheers,
      Steadyon
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      • Profile picture of the author Jaydowg
        Originally Posted by Steadyon View Post

        Just in case it helps you too David, the site in question HASN'T been optimised. Take a look at the html code for the page. It is extremely badly written.

        Google will have some problems crawling through all the garbage, just to get at the content!

        Cheers,
        Steadyon
        How would you go about optimising this site?

        Im limited to changing description, title & keyword meta & H tags and content
        ... cant edit html as its through homestead

        Any suggestions?
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  • Profile picture of the author Darth Executor
    Originally Posted by Jaydowg View Post

    Hi guys

    This site is doing really poorly in search results;

    lettings-direct.com

    Its targeted at UK users in southampton

    Ive tageted keywords, used meta, set up links, H tags, titles , content & keywords....

    Yet when searching for lettings, renting, flats, houses ect and the word southampton no where to be found

    What advice would you give?
    By "set up links" I hope you mean you got backlinks. Otherwise you're not gonna rank.

    Oh, and I'm using firefox and it looks fine to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Here is what I'm seeing
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    • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
      Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post


      Oh, and I'm using firefox and it looks fine to me.
      Not in some versions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaydowg
    Yeah, thanks for your imput!

    Im fixing the site up for someone who designed and hosted it using Homestead.com

    Do any of you have experience in fixing homestead websites? its very annoying because you cant edit the html directly! Adding H tags isa real pain!
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  • Profile picture of the author bobcath
    I dont have the solution but I do have another question that perhaps may help answer the initial question. Some of the more experienced site builders may know.

    My question is: -

    Does it have anything to do with www.homestead.co m ? This has been used to build the site.

    Bobby
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  • Profile picture of the author Roey Pimentel
    STEADYON: What does that really mean,

    "I have just checked the source code to your home page and from a search engine rankings point of view, it is ATROCIOUS. It really is."

    If we use a Wordpress Theme Template will we be okay? What should we look for that is "Bloat" and "Bad" HTML?

    Thanks in advance for your (and anyone's) reply.

    Peace,

    Roey.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBeard
    If link building was rated on a scale of 1 to 10, you would get a -75

    linkdomain:lettings-direct.com -site:lettings-direct.com - Yahoo! Search Results

    Even Yahoo is only showing 4 link, 2 on a dead domain that has moved, not sure if your links moved with it, and 2 without any anchor text... but at least the Gumtree links were relevant.

    Sure the sites are nasty code, but Google can handle a fair amount of nasty code. Ultimately

    I am actually amazed the site is even indexed by Google, but it seems to be.

    I have no idea what the capabilities are of that sitebuilder you are using - your home page has minor canonical problems.

    Do a little keyword research and use some more tightly targetted anchor text internally, especially navigation.

    I understand the reason for 3 languages in Southampton though it means you have 3x the number of pages to get indexed, but you don't have the juice needed to get any traffic out of one long-tail term, let alone for 40+ pages.

    What will help (long term) is an address on every page, Google local listing etc

    Good luck with the linkbuilding
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    • Profile picture of the author Jaydowg
      Ive only just taken over the site, so I was after some good advice on how to improve it.

      Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Jaydowg
      Originally Posted by phxbui View Post

      You should start by putting all the javascript into individual include files. This would make the page cleaner and should you need to update the script, you only need to update that particular .js file. I'm seeing more scripts than content. Also, you should also make use of a separate .css file. Hope this helps.
      Thanks

      Thats the downside of fixing a site built with Homestead - cant fix any script apart from the meta tags!!
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      • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
        I haven't seen your site at the minute as I'm on my blackberry. BUT don't make the mistake I made years ago by sticking with sitebuilders. You never get full control with them.

        If I were you I'd learn how to use an authoring tool like dreamweaver and learn html. Once you pick up a basic understanding the only way is up.

        I built my sister in laws lettings website and she ranks well for geographical searches. That hasn't hardly been touched with offpage seo. Get your site built properly first, then look at your link building.

        Sometimes it IS better to build a site from scratch rather than boxing your head in trying to sort an existing site out.

        Also, don't use too much java or flash. It's no good for the SE's. Good code with proper traditional anchor links is what you need.
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  • Profile picture of the author Philarmon
    It is not an JavaScript or HTML or keyword density issue. Your website is lacking of two major things that a website need to be seen in the search engine - backlinks and content. That's it, you don't need anything else (although i would take a look at your code anyway, the site seem not even to load completely). As it is now, i don't see why people should want to even visit it, really - there is no content at all (sorry, it sounds harsh but you need to hear the truth if you really want to change anything)

    Set up a content section on your website (maybe a blog). Display the latest articles on your homepage. Write an article per day that is relevant to your website. If you can, write three articles per day. Research your keywords and write about that.

    Get some links ! Submit articles to article directories with your links in the author's bio. Ask other webmasters in your niche if you can write an article for their blog in exchange for a link from your article (or 2 or 3). Set up a squidoo page and hubpage on your theme with links to your site (not only links, content with links). Link to these squidoo pages as well.
    Hire someone to submit your website to directories.

    After the traffic will start to come, watch your logs and see which keywords people are using to come to your website. There is gold hidden in these logs. Write articles around these keyword combinations.

    Do that for three months and you have a solid website with steady traffic. It always take some time, nothing happens overnight
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  • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
    I just tried to answer, showing why the code was so bloated.

    When I tried to copy some of the source code of the page here, it actually crashed this page in my browser. The forum program couldn't handle it!!!

    Anyway, look online for "code bloat" and or "bad html" and you will see why the homepage of the site is so bad.

    Wordpress, though not perfectly coded, is about 500 billion times better than the Homestead code.

    If I ever have to look at the code produced by homestead again I will have to puke in a bucket!

    Here's what others say:

    http://www.codingforums.com/archive/...p/t-38031.html

    Steadyon
    (SEO hitman)
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