To hire a writer or to not hire a writer. That is the question

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I am getting closer and closer to releasing my first site.

That being said one of my downfalls is writing great stuff. I am mediocre at best. Mediocre is now what I am wanting to give potential readers.

I will be updating the blog myself but the reviews and other parts of the website that really need to be top notch, should I outsource that?

If you think I should outsource, have you got anyone you would like to recommend?
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    Some of the top writers like Alexa Smith, MYOB and others take several hours to write one article. They are not slow writers they just are very calculated. If you want stellar articles expect to pay over $100 easily. My suggestion is to keep writing. Practice makes perfect. Write 1,000 word articles not the standard 500 word articles. Heck you can write a 2,000 word article with no problem. Read a lot of good writing because it helps you improve as well. Its ok to spend several hours writing a 1,500 word article. Provide content to where you are impressed with yourself after reading it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by jamesrich1 View Post

      My suggestion is to keep writing. Practice makes perfect. Write 1,000 word articles not the standard 500 word articles. Heck you can write a 2,000 word article with no problem. Read a lot of good writing because it helps you improve as well. Its ok to spend several hours writing a 1,500 word article. Provide content to where you are impressed with yourself after reading it.
      (As so often) I have to agree with Jimmy, here.

      Especially in your "general situation" I think you should be doing it yourself, and trying to learn as you go along. I was a university student when I started, myself.

      The great drawback to outsourcing this, in my view, isn't the obvious ones (cost, difficulty and lack of reliability): it's the fact that if you outsource it, you don't learn to do it yourself. Since you're someone clearly highly capable of doing that, I think you should, taking a long-term view. Because, for so many different business models in IM, "writing" (in its most general sense) is one of the most highly valuable skills you can acquire.

      Just my perspective.
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  • Profile picture of the author mialove
    If you mediocre at best, i think better to outsource.
    Yes, it's possible to learn and improve the writing, but there is so many good writers available..
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    In the Warriors for Hire section you will find many writers, myself included, who can help you with your work. You also have the option of using the auction sites but it can be harder to find a good writer there as you don't know what people are like, except from their reputation based on work they have done.

    If you hire a good writer, it will relieve the stress you currently feel and you can focus on other areas of your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnbjr
    Well if your looking to get some articles quick I would suggest outsourcing for a few articles. Just remember you get what you pay for. If you paying a few $$ your probably going to get a poorly written or spun article. I would suggest in the long run work on your writing skills (tons of articles here on the forum to learn from). That way you have total control over your keywords and the message of your articles. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author jackcarr
    Once again, thanks for the help.

    I should look at learning to write as part of the overall job. Just like learning how to e-mail market.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
      It all depends on the niche. If you will have a blog about something you know, you could do videos.

      Or organize your posts as step by step guides (lots of images and not so much writing).

      Or do infographics.

      You can outsource the content, but you cannot outsource the personality (with exceptions). And then... people in your blog will be connecting with someone else. In some business models, it is perfectly fine. In others, it is very bad.
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      • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
        Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

        You can outsource the content, but you cannot outsource the personality (with exceptions). And then... people in your blog will be connecting with someone else. In some business models, it is perfectly fine. In others, it is very bad.
        Good point. I suppose if you outsource to half a dozen different writers, you may appear slightly schizophrenic, or MPD.

        Could be perplexing or disarming for the discerning reader.
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        • Profile picture of the author johnbjr
          Originally Posted by KenThompson View Post

          I suppose if you outsource to half a dozen different writers, you may appear slightly schizophrenic, or MPD.
          Haha yes please you dont want your readers to know you have outsourced everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Originally Posted by jackcarr View Post

    I am mediocre at best.
    That's your opinion, and like most people you're probably being too hard on your self.

    The best time to start writing and improving is now. It's not as hard as you think and it just takes sustained effort and a little knowledge.

    1. Learn who your audience is and adapt your writing to them. Most audiences respond well to conversational writing.

    2. Learn the basic rules of grammar, etc, so you will know how to break them without looking illiterate.

    3. Write using the inverted pyramid approach. Research nearly ten years ago confirmed/discovered this works best online. State your point right away, and then use the rest of the paragraph to support your point.

    4. And learn how to format your content for web readers. Skimmers, scanners, etc.

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    Once you start outsourcing, it's like dope - you'll enjoy it and want to keep on doing it. But there are good benefits such as more time, etc.

    However, I think writing and copywriting skills are great to have. You get better by writing every day. Writing is the only way to get better at writing.

    Besides, if you don't really know how to write well, then how can you recognize it when you outsource it? I mean, beyond the basic stuff like no glaring mistakes.

    Also, if you get to the point where you outsource everything, then you're just another manager. Yes, all the $$ addicts will tell you that that's how you can maximize profits. So I suppose it's a personal preference.

    There are always trade-offs.

    You can have a bunch 'o skills, but be the object of criticism for those who aspire to be IM managers. Or, you can be a manager and have to depend on others because the only thing you know how to do is manage.

    OK, being a little sarcastic - but just a little.
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  • Profile picture of the author jackcarr
    Yea I definetly think its something I need to work on if I am going to do this seriously.

    I keep seeing the word copyrighting come up, I need to do a bit of research on that because I have no idea what you guys are talking about, well the definition I have in my head does not make much sense
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      Originally Posted by jackcarr View Post

      I keep seeing the word copyrighting come up, I need to do a bit of research on that because I have no idea what you guys are talking about, well the definition I have in my head does not make much sense
      Forgive me for offering a correction.

      Copyrighting/copyright are legal terms.

      You want to learn copywriting. Different beast.

      Check out copyblogger.com for both writing and copywriting.
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  • Profile picture of the author jackcarr
    Forgive me for offering a correction.

    Copyrighting/copyright are legal terms.

    You want to learn copywriting. Different beast.

    Check out copyblogger.com for both writing and copywriting.
    Spellchecker fail I realize they are two different things I just don't know anything of copywriting
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    As many have said already, even if you are not a great writer it is best to learn and practice and understand what great writing is before you outsource. Also make sure you start making profit with your site then you can improve upon it and outsource later.

    Best of luck with your first site!

    -Will
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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      Originally Posted by jackcarr View Post

      ..... I am mediocre at best. Mediocre is now what I am wanting to give potential readers.
      Judging from the quality of your writing here, you have the potential to be anything but mediocre. Your writing is grammatical and easy to read.

      Originally Posted by jackcarr View Post

      I should look at learning to write as part of the overall job. Just like learning how to e-mail market.
      Originally Posted by jackcarr View Post

      Yea I definetly think its something I need to work on if I am going to do this seriously.
      Originally Posted by jackcarr View Post

      Spellchecker fail I realize they are two different things I just don't know anything of copywriting
      You have clearly demonstrated that you are willing to learn.

      My personal opinion is that outsourcing is rarely the right way to go as a long term strategy.

      Of course there are some excellent writers here. Ones from whom commissioning a few good articles would be a learning experience. They would show you how a well constructed article should be written and the articles will contain all the essential facts about your subject - thus giving you clues about further research.

      However, the site will be yours. You will be the one who will need to keep up to date with the subject matter, so you can add new articles and keep your readers up to date with new developments.

      Ultimately, there is no substitute for learning your subject. Something I know you can do.
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  • Profile picture of the author umrbd
    Working in a team can provide an excellent environment to learn and excel. If you can afford outsourcing I will advice you to hire a proof reader who will not only point out the mistakes in your articles but will also help you to enhance your skills of content writing
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    You can outsource your writing here at the WF. Post a thread at the Warrior For Hire section and you will surely get a lot of takers.
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  • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
    Originally Posted by jackcarr View Post

    I am getting closer and closer to releasing my first site.

    That being said one of my downfalls is writing great stuff. I am mediocre at best. Mediocre is now what I am wanting to give potential readers.

    I will be updating the blog myself but the reviews and other parts of the website that really need to be top notch, should I outsource that?

    If you think I should outsource, have you got anyone you would like to recommend?
    You start from a good place. All it takes is patience and tons of writing

    Seriously, just go searching for some blogs to read and once you find something that grabs your attention, read more from that author. Don't copy them, though, use that to develop your own style and loosen up too. It took me a while to loosen up and just let i flow: I remember the first newspaper gig I got, it was to tight and didn't flow quite as well as it should.

    If you're already grammatically correct, then you just need to work on your style. Do you like making wisecracks? Are you usually quite dry? You should be able to write content for yourself, but if not, there's plenty of us out there to help and who knows, when you've got too many sites on the go and too much writing to do, you may well need to outsource
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyTorrents
    I think you should hire a writer. Of course, it will take sometime to find a good writer but once you do you don't need to worry about writing the content for your blog and you can focus on other aspects of the website like SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author jclindayag
    Hi jackcarr!

    First, you have to weigh your options with respect to the resources that you have. If you have the budget and you are preoccupied with your time, there is no problem with hiring writers as there are may impressive ones you can hire in fiverr and odesk.

    But if you have the ample time,you can practice good writing and trust yourself as well as save money. Hiring writers is fine but writing it with passion as for yourself is better. Have confidence within you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Donn Maala
    Creating your own content is where true value comes from. You want people to get to know you and understand you.

    I think that's where the line is drawn.

    Pros of hiring a writer:
    The benefits of having a writer is that you save time and have a peace of mind that it is written in a grammatically perfect way.

    Cons:
    On the other hand, you don't know for sure if the quality and the value of the content is good, so you basically have no control over it (even if you try to edit it, you still wont gain enough confidence for yourself). Also you dont grow in the process and it makes it hard for you to establish a good understanding of your readers.

    While if you do it on your own...

    Pros:
    You will eventually get good at it, you learn how to engage to your readers because they will comment directly of your work. You can personalize your work which is very important if you want to leave an impression of yourself to your readers.

    Cons:
    Its very time consuming at first, you might get criticize and loose potential clients.

    Now for my personal opinion, I think that its best that you do it on your own at first, because you will personally gain a lot by doing so.
    Next is that as you get good at it and your business starts to grow, you can then start outsourcing some of the work and just revise it as you see it fit. You see if you experience it yourself, you would actually know what your readers want to read from you.

    Tips for you...

    Do not be afraid to write, just as long as you get your message across that's ok. Value comes from content not from the context. Although everything has their own purpose and own use.
    Write as you speak, just imagine yourself talking to your friends and write that way. It gives a more natural feel of your writing and you make it more personal.
    Another thing is that you train your readers how you write, so they will eventually get used to it.
    Be direct, when you are writing, just go straight to the point, imagine yourself giving directions to someone who is asking for a location.
    Don't be afraid to make mistakes, we all do, instead focus on how you can give value to your readers. You know you are giving value if they can take away something from what they have read.
    Lastly, believe in yourself. If you know how to communicate with people, then you know how to communicate on your blog.

    Although I am weighing heavily more in doing it yourself, I would recommend hiring a writer as you go down the way. Because when you want to build a business online you want to work more on creating value for your company. So if you find yourself too busy working on other stuffs, you can pitch in an idea, hire your own writer and let them write for you. That way you still have the personal touch and have time to do other stuffs...

    I hope this has been helpful too, and oh, just to let you know, English is not my main language, but if you truly desire to share some great value to other people. I don't see anything wrong in making mistakes if you know you can make their lives a little bit easier.

    I, myself will be hiring my own writer very soon, so that I know I can give more value to my viewers. In the meantime though, i still have to continue practicing. Don't let yourself hold you back to being a better you.

    Good luck to you my friend, if i can do it, you could probably do it much better than me...
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  • Profile picture of the author seriousjake
    Thanks for asking this question, Jack. The replies actually helped me out with a slightly different doubt I was facing.

    All the best to you. I'm rooting for your success.
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  • Profile picture of the author wordpressdoctor
    Elance has some of the best writers on the net. If you don't have much cash, I've had some pretty good experiences with fiverr. Also, some good writers here on the WF.
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