Bum Marketing Methods - Write How Many An Hour??!!

by cylwac 46 replies
Hey all,

I have read bum marketing methods a few times now and still can't grasp how to write 5 articles an hour. I have only been at this for a little over a month now and can manage to pump out 3 articles an hour. I have a total of 17 live articles on ezine, and 15 pending, plus I have 5 more waiting once I get some approved.

Can someone shed some light on how to become a faster writer? I know writing is a personal thing and everyone has different styles and what not but still there has to be a method to mass produce articles on the scale Travis is talking about. I know about out sourcing but I prefer to write my own...for now. Maybe the more you do it the faster you get?

I find all of my keywords first and then sit and write, but like I said I can only pump out 3 an hour.

Any advice?

Thanks,

Victoria
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    Victoria,

    I personally think that three an hour is plenty. Heck, three a day is plenty in my book!

    I wouldn't worry too much about it, but if you want to pump out 5 an hour, just remember that you can quickly and easily sacrifice quality for quantity when you're talking about writing that fast...and that is something you DON'T want to do.

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    • Profile picture of the author martinp
      You don't need to write 5 an hour - if I did 5 every hour I'd burn out very quickly. Alot of people advocate quantity when it comes to bum marketing but I say quality is a whole lot better. You can hit the jackpot with one single article and earn $500 a month from it - 20 crappy articles and you may only earn $50 a month.

      Focus on testing things such as style, titles, resource boxes etc and once you get good at article marketing you won't need to write so many to do well.
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      • I agree with Allen and Martin, Victoria. I can't write more than 3 articles an hour, either...actually, most articles take me much longer than that.

        Focus on quality, so that your articles will bring you resources for a long, long time.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Victoria, there is a simple law of math here.

          If you can type 30 words per minute, and you write a 300 word article, it's
          going to take you 10 minutes to write it. If you somehow were able to go
          like an assembly line, you could crank out 6 short articles an hour.

          I don't want to know what you'd look like at the end of the hour though.

          And this doesn't include research time.

          Now, if you have Dragon Naturally Speaking, you can knock off articles
          much quicker.

          I can write about 4 articles of about 400 words in an hour. If I use DNS, I
          can do it in about 40 minutes.

          So take claims of how many articles you can write in so little time with a
          grain of salt.
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          • Profile picture of the author cylwac
            Thanks for all the replies!

            I think the reason why I can't write more than three articles an hour is because I try to make them good. I love to write, not necessarily what I'm writing articles about but still I get to write.

            I understand quality over quantity and I try to only write quality articles(well I think there quality, I'm not sure about everyone else...lol)

            I set a goal to write 25 articles for one of my niches and was really trying to get there in three days. Unfortunately life gets in the way and kind of side tracks my efforts.

            There's always tomorrow!

            Thanks for all the replys again!

            Cheers,

            Victoria
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            • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
              Originally Posted by cylwac View Post

              I think the reason why I can't write more than three articles an hour is because I try to make them good. I love to write, not necessarily what I'm writing articles about but still I get to write.
              Stick with what you love doing Victoria.

              If you get joy out of writing 2 or 3 articles an hour then do that.

              That way you'll still be writing articles in 6-12 months time and you'll have over 1,500 to 3,000 articles online bringing you traffic (at 3 hours work a day).

              I'm pretty sure that should bring you in some good traffic.

              I'm also pretty certain that higher quality articles will bring you a whole lot more traffic than quickly churned out junk.

              Kindest regards,
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              • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
                Also one of the biggest secrets to writing fast is to write straight off the top of your head.

                While research is invaluable it should NOT be part of your writing process if you really want to produce great content QUICKLY.

                Once you sit down to write be sure you're writing about things you know you can do without having to research any more.

                Plan your angle and know in advance that you can write an article from start to finish without stopping to research.

                Most research is actually unfocused time wasting and should not be confused with actual writing time.

                Kindest regards,
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          • Profile picture of the author atom1980
            For me, the problem is not how to type faster, but how to think of what to say ... faster. I can type fast enough to knock out loads of articles a day, it is knowing what to write that is tough.
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            • Profile picture of the author jennstall
              There is no need to write five articles an hour. I am lucky if I manage five articles a week and I make a full-time income from "bum marketing".

              One article with solid content, a well-crafted title and careful attention paid to LSI will perform better than five articles thrown together quickly.
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              • Profile picture of the author atom1980
                To make a full time income from bum marketing with just 5 articles a week really inspires me. I would love to attain that. It certainly beats writing dozens a day as some suggest. I guess that as only one bullet is needed to hit a target, the same can be said with article marketing. Fire enough bullets and one will probably hit... but it is wasteful.
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                • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
                  It's not just quantity, it's quality. If you are writing 5 articles an hour, they may not be quality articles (unless you know the subject so well, you don't need to do any research and just click, click, click.) Some people are just throwing together garbage. The people who write quality articles get better results. So don't get so caught up in quantity, you forget about quality.
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                • Profile picture of the author jennstall
                  Originally Posted by atom1980 View Post

                  To make a full time income from bum marketing with just 5 articles a week really inspires me. I would love to attain that. It certainly beats writing dozens a day as some suggest. I guess that as only one bullet is needed to hit a target, the same can be said with article marketing. Fire enough bullets and one will probably hit... but it is wasteful.
                  I have always preferred rifles to shotguns. Only one bullet is needed, as long as you are aiming at the target properly -- and I am an excellent shot!

                  I don't squander my bullets either. The non-bum part of my bum marketing is that I send traffic to my own sites. I usually do my test marketing with either Squidoo or Hubpages, but once I decide the niche is worthwhile, I get a domain and build my own sites and keep them clean --- no adsense -- just the links I want them to buy from. And the Squidoo lenses and Hubs become part of my backlinks to my own site.

                  I also do quite a bit of research on a niche before going after it and then I test the niche by writing a few articles. If I am not making sales within the week, I move on. I prefer to shoot fish in a barrel rather than fish in the ocean -- easier to aim.

                  Also, if the most traffic I can get to an article is a couple of hundred uniques that is a total waste of my time. Killing yourself writing articles to get a couple of hundred views is soul destroying. Work in niches where one article will get thousands of views. It is much more fun.
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                  • Profile picture of the author cylwac
                    Wow......I think my brain is in over load right now.

                    Thank-you for all the great posts.

                    Maybe I'm just not picking the right niches?? With so many different niches out there you would think it would be easy....then again nothing is easy in this world. Maybe I should spend more time researching. Like I said before I am only a month into IM so I am still learning. Any pointers on finding a niche? I use wordtracker to find keywords and then search them on Google to see how many searches are being done...can someone expand on this for me?

                    Thanks again,

                    Victoria
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                    • Profile picture of the author jennstall
                      A lot of my niche selection is based on gut instinct backed up by keyword research. When I come across something that leaps out of at me as having potential, I write it down in my little "ideas" notebook because I don't have the time to follow up on everything. But I do make sure I take note of lucrative opportunities so when I do have time I can follow up with them.

                      You will find niche ideas everywhere. Walk into Barnes & Noble. Go to the Magazine section. Check out each section. Notice how many magazines there are for particular areas of interest. For instance, my local B&N has at least five different WATCH magazines on the shelf. WATCHES. Apparently, people are crazy about watches. So maybe you'd buy a few magazines about watches and read them over then start doing some keyword research so you could figure out what watches are the most popular and then you'd go and see if there's an affiliate program so you could sell watches directly, or you could promote ebay auctions for them or you could just do adsense.

                      Then set up a site and drive traffic to that site with articles about the watches that had the largest numbers when you did your keyword research.

                      Basically, there's two types of buyers in the world. Mostly what I see focused on in material that teaches internet marketing is the "desperate buyer" -- the buyer who needs something, needs to solve a problem. Well, there's another type of buyer --- the addict. This is the collector, the stock trader, the gambler, the video gamer, the golfer, etc.

                      Health niches and some finance niches are great for targetting desperate buyers.

                      Other types of niches -- in collectibles, entertainment and sports and finance,for starters --- are really great for targetting the obsessed. You can bet the guy who is seriously into collecting watches buys not just one Watch magazine every month, but a few of them.

                      I do think it is worth spending more time researching and testing. Then you really do not have to put as much work into pumping out vast amounts of articles. Also, once you find a niche that will make money, stick to it. We all need to diversify, but don't do it too soon or you'll find yourself really diluting your efforts. If the niche is converting after the first 10 articles, stick with it until you've written at least 100 articles -- even if it takes you 100 days to write them. Then start niche 2. If it's not converting however, cut your losses and move on. Otherwise, you're just trying to draw blood from a turnip.
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                      • Profile picture of the author cylwac
                        Thanks Jenn!

                        I've only been at this for a little over a month so I'm still playing with my niche options. I have really started concentrating on one that I have had some success with. I am writing 25 articles about the specific niche and seeing how things pan out. It took me awhile to do my research and find my keywords so I'll soon see if my efforts were worth it. If not on to the next.

                        Thanks for all your help,

                        Cheers,

                        Victoria
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                        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
                          5 in an hour is insane and it could affect the quality of your articles, 3 an hour is fine, I say take your time and write those 5 in 2 hours.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Michael Mason
                            Wow, some people here sure can write fast! When I first started out I struggled to write one article in under an hour. Now I am getting a bit faster and can do about 2.5 in an hour. Hopefully with more time I'll be able to do 4 or so like Steven does.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                              Originally Posted by Inisheer View Post

                              Wow, some people here sure can write fast! When I first started out I struggled to write one article in under an hour. Now I am getting a bit faster and can do about 2.5 in an hour. Hopefully with more time I'll be able to do 4 or so like Steven does.
                              The speed comes from knowing what I am writing about and having a solid
                              handle on basic article structure. Yes, there are ways to go about writing
                              articles that are quite cookie cutter and still get the job done.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
                                Hey all,

                                This is a really good thread......

                                I've learnt some really good things here...

                                Thanks everyone...

                                Regards

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                                • Profile picture of the author marxwarfor
                                  I wonder if there is a Dragon Naturally Speaking equivalent for Mac??

                                  please post if you know of any - will still Google it nevertheless

                                  Talking to a computer sure beats writing on one, if you have to pump out loads of articles -


                                  i also wonder if it picks up chewing or slurping noises when you're munchin' out????

                                  If it did, I love to see the transcription!

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                                  • Profile picture of the author DallasL
                                    Originally Posted by marxwarfor View Post

                                    I wonder if there is a Dragon Naturally Speaking equivalent for Mac??

                                    please post if you know of any - will still Google it nevertheless

                                    Talking to a computer sure beats writing on one, if you have to pump out loads of articles -


                                    i also wonder if it picks up chewing or slurping noises when you're munchin' out????

                                    If it did, I love to see the transcription!

                                    Mark
                                    About the only VR program out there for the Mac is MacSpeech Dictate. Don't know how good it is, tho. I may soon, because VR is the one area where I think my iMac falls short.

                                    But you don't need Dragon either if you have Vista. I've found the built-in VR program is very solid. If you have Vista and you haven't tried it, you should.
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                                    • Profile picture of the author cylwac
                                      Thanks for all the great tips everyone!

                                      When I first started writing all my articles were very dry. The more I started writing the more "me" I started putting into them...sometimes maybe a little too much me..lol. I have a new batch of articles just about to go live on EZ so I'll see if putting "me" out there helps any.

                                      Thank-you Andrew - made me blush with the "kindest regards" so sweet

                                      John- thanks for the article structure, I have saved it for future use!

                                      Cheers all,

                                      Victoria
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                                      • Profile picture of the author macchiavelli
                                        For bum marketing I think the shorter the article the better.
                                        Its all about getting traffic, and not boring the hell out of your reader.
                                        Usually as a reader, whenever I see a long article I just hit my back button.

                                        I hate reading long pages of info, unless it contains the secret to making $500.000 a day
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                                        • Profile picture of the author Seattle Mike
                                          My problem is over doing it. 15 articles in 7 straight hours and then I need a two day break. 2 or 3 articles a day is a lot easier to do and you will probably feel like writing some more later in the day.

                                          Hopefully my dragon speaking will learn my voice soon, I try to use it but end up having to go back and make too many fixes. Soon as that gets reliable, I should be able to do 5 an hour no problem.

                                          The other problem I have is blabbering on when I just need a 400 word article Wind up with 1200 words which would be nice if I could break them up easily. Splitting up an article that still reads good is as hard for me as writing an article in a new niche.
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                                        • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
                                          I thought Travis summed it up perfectly about structure.

                                          1. Tell them what you are going to be writing about.
                                          2. Write it
                                          3. Summarize what you just wrote about.
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                                          • Profile picture of the author PamT
                                            I love to write as well but I seem to edit as I go. I recently read a comment by a big name copy writer (sorry I cant remember which one) who said he does all of his writing first, THEN his editing. That helped me with my time. I don't "nit pick" things to death that way.

                                            Also, I agree totally with the previous comments about the length of the read. It is easy to spend all day reading. I am starting to evaluate others' articles and blogs to improve my own skills and I press delete more often if they are too long.

                                            This has been very helpful for me. Thanks everyone!

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                                            • Profile picture of the author VegasVince
                                              I wish someone who came up with that whole Bum Marketing gig would rewrite the damn thing and call it: Affluent Marketing....How To Grind Out $1000 A Day.

                                              I might get interested in that.

                                              Truth is......any marketing strategy that involves me jerkin' around a lot of time for what appears to be very little reward...aint for Vinnie.

                                              I'm not sure that's for anybody....lookin to liberate themselves in this marketing game. And I'm sorry to see my home girl in Canada Victoria screwin with it.

                                              Here's my "Secret" .....Victoria.

                                              I don't screw with any venture until I determine the Time vs. Reward factor.

                                              And I'm sorry.....BUM MARKETING FAILS MISERABLY IN THAT REGARD.

                                              If some people put as much effort into creating ONE DAMN ORIGNAL PRODUCT OF THEIR OWN...WITH THE BALLS TO CHARGE MORE THEN 7 BUCKS FOR IT....AND TOOK A FRIGGIN' SHOT AT IT....THEY'D BE BETTER OFF THEN TRYING TO GRIND OUT KIBBLES AND BITS.

                                              Cuz you have hell of a lot better chance of selling something original for big dollars....then a marketing strategy that is so afraid to make a score......it doesn't even TRY TO!

                                              Bum Marketing.....is a bad mindset.

                                              It creates limited thinking......and limited ambition. But that's my opinion.

                                              Newbies and grizzled bum vets alike......would all be better off creating something original, in demand, and selling it for big bucks to the starving herd of sheep out there.

                                              And it's a hell of a lot easier... with a hell of a lot more upside potential....then pickin' up aluminum can with Willie the Whino....and callin' Bum Marketing.


                                              xxx Vegas Vince

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                                              • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
                                                Victoria

                                                It's not about quantity -- it's about quality.

                                                If all you're doing is trying to grind out 5 articles an hour, you just become a gristmill. And there are much more fun things to do in life, than be a slave to pumping out so many words every day.
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                                              • Profile picture of the author pixguy
                                                Originally Posted by VegasVince View Post

                                                I wish someone who came up with that whole Bum Marketing gig would rewrite the damn thing and call it: Affluent Marketing....How To Grind Out $1000 A Day.

                                                I might get interested in that.

                                                Truth is......any marketing strategy that involves me jerkin' around a lot of time for what appears to be very little reward...aint for Vinnie.

                                                I'm not sure that's for anybody....lookin to liberate themselves in this marketing game. And I'm sorry to see my home girl in Canada Victoria screwin with it.

                                                Here's my "Secret" .....Victoria.

                                                I don't screw with any venture until I determine the Time vs. Reward factor.

                                                And I'm sorry.....BUM MARKETING FAILS MISERABLY IN THAT REGARD.

                                                If some people put as much effort into creating ONE DAMN ORIGNAL PRODUCT OF THEIR OWN...WITH THE BALLS TO CHARGE MORE THEN 7 BUCKS FOR IT....AND TOOK A FRIGGIN' SHOT AT IT....THEY'D BE BETTER OFF THEN TRYING TO GRIND OUT KIBBLES AND BITS.

                                                Cuz you have hell of a lot better chance of selling something original for big dollars....then a marketing strategy that is so afraid to make a score......it doesn't even TRY TO!

                                                Bum Marketing.....is a bad mindset.

                                                It creates limited thinking......and limited ambition. But that's my opinion.

                                                Newbies and grizzled bum vets alike......would all be better off creating something original, in demand, and selling it for big bucks to the starving herd of sheep out there.

                                                And it's a hell of a lot easier... with a hell of a lot more upside potential....then pickin' up aluminum can with Willie the Whino....and callin' Bum Marketing.


                                                xxx Vegas Vince

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                                                Hey Vince,
                                                I can certainly see your point...
                                                But..
                                                Remember that some people are new and need to learn a few of the
                                                tips and processes of going through the motions and being in the
                                                trenches so to speak, before feeling comfortable enough to create thier own products.
                                                It makes people also feel like they have a little knowledge under thier belt before
                                                diving into the pond with the bigger fish.

                                                My 2 cents
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                                                  Originally Posted by pixguy View Post

                                                  Hey Vince,
                                                  I can certainly see your point...
                                                  But..
                                                  Remember that some people are new and need to learn a few of the
                                                  tips and processes of going through the motions and being in the
                                                  trenches so to speak, before feeling comfortable enough to create thier own products.
                                                  It makes people also feel like they have a little knowledge under thier belt before
                                                  diving into the pond with the bigger fish.

                                                  My 2 cents


                                                  The best way to get in the trenches....is to get in the trenches.

                                                  And that's my 2 cents....no pun intended....but it's Bum Marketing after all.


                                                  xxx Vegas Vince
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                                                  • Profile picture of the author cylwac
                                                    Thanks Vince....I see your point but it's a starting place for me. I do eventually want to start marketing my own products....I'm working on it. But I am still learning and don't want to jump into the deep water just yet....I have to learn to swim first. No ones going to come to rescue me when I'm starting to go under....it's best I bring my own life preserve.


                                                    But I understand where your coming from.

                                                    Cheers,

                                                    Victoria
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                                                    • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
                                                      Hi Victoria,

                                                      You know you have a heck of level head on your shoulders. You have listened to the responses and have responded with well thought out answers on how you will be applying them. Then you show the fortitude to stick with your plan.

                                                      You have already mentioned how you have gotten better on the speed and content the more you write. The same thing happened with me as I found my hidden talent for writing. Your speed will come naturally the longer you write.

                                                      And I also want to reinforce putting "me" into the articles. There is no doubt in my mind when you do that, you will have a much better chance of getting your article readers to read all the way through. You gain credibility with your readers and this will lead them to the click through.

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                                                      • Profile picture of the author cylwac
                                                        Thanks Ken,

                                                        I agree with you on putting the "me" factor into your content. I think a lot of the time I over analyze what I write, thinking I put too much "me" into it or thinking the article is just crap. I have been trying very hard not to let these things get to me when I write, you know what they say, "you're your worst critic!"

                                                        I'm find the more I write the more I learn about myself and my own writing techniques. I try to pick my articles apart once they go live to find out whats working and whats not.

                                                        Thanks for all the help everyone, I really appreciate it!

                                                        Cheers,

                                                        Victoria
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                                                      • Profile picture of the author GeorgeWhitaker
                                                        I also think three articles per hour is plenty. Unless you're writing articles on something you know very well and you are passionate about your subject, then writing 5 articles in an hour is way too difficult. Maybe it would help if you have Dragon Naturally Speaking, but you would still have to know a lot about the subject if you want articles done that fast.
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                                • Back in olden times, when I was doing ghostwriting and Bum Marketing, I could bang out around 1,000 words in an hour of finished copy. Some stuff took longer, some went very quickly. Divvy that up and it's about 4 articles per hour, assuming the minimum requirements for ezinearticles.com.

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                                  • Profile picture of the author Jason Fladlien
                                    My personal best is 10 articles (each around 400) in one hour... so it can be done. However, it was on topics where I already well conversant, I was using my highly trained dragon naturally speaking software and I've had practiced... I've written a few thousand articles in my days.

                                    However, get this. I recorded a 20 minute interview the other day and had it transcribed. It came out to 2,604 words. Divide that by 400, and that's 6 1/2 articles in 20 minutes. So at that right, I could do 19 articles an hour!

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                              • Profile picture of the author TeamGlobal
                                Steve makes a good point here about article structure.

                                Does anyone have any suggested basic article structures for those of us looking to up our article writing productivity?

                                Thanks.

                                All The Best,



                                Tony

                                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                                The speed comes from knowing what I am writing about and having a solid
                                handle on basic article structure. Yes, there are ways to go about writing
                                articles that are quite cookie cutter and still get the job done.
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                                • Profile picture of the author atom1980
                                  There is some great advice here. Thanks everyone!

                                  Ultimately, what I (we?) are looking for is traffic that buys. I would rather spend the time and have 5 articles consistently drawing that kind of traffic then write 50 articles quickly with the hope that a few convert. That is the skill element. I guess there will always be those articles which flop no matter what you do, but I like to think that we have a good 90% control over the outcome.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author jhongren
                                    I would like to share about how I was taught to write articles

                                    Have a structure every time before you write the article.

                                    1. Intro (How reading this article can benefit the reader...remember WIIFM "What's in it for me?")

                                    2. Body (benefits and list them out...)

                                    3. Conclusion (a summary with the main benefit plus a call to action)

                                    Normally, I draw out a mindmap with all the points which I want to include in the article.

                                    Hope it is helpful.

                                    My two cents,
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                                    • Profile picture of the author TeamGlobal
                                      Hi John,

                                      Your article structure info is very helpful.

                                      It makes sense that planning prior to production should increase efficiency as well as productivity.

                                      Thanks for your input.

                                      All The Best,


                                      Tony
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          • Profile picture of the author jennstall
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            Victoria, there is a simple law of math here.

            If you can type 30 words per minute, and you write a 300 word article, it's
            going to take you 10 minutes to write it. If you somehow were able to go
            like an assembly line, you could crank out 6 short articles an hour.

            I don't want to know what you'd look like at the end of the hour though.

            And this doesn't include research time.

            Now, if you have Dragon Naturally Speaking, you can knock off articles
            much quicker.

            I can write about 4 articles of about 400 words in an hour. If I use DNS, I
            can do it in about 40 minutes.

            So take claims of how many articles you can write in so little time with a
            grain of salt.
            I type close to 100 words per minute, but there is no way I could knock off a 300 word article in three minutes. Typing and writing are not the same thing. Typing speed is based on how fast you can transcribe copy that is already provided.

            Thinking speed is what counts here.
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          • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
            Use audacity

            Create an audio

            get it transcribed from castingwords.com ror somewhere

            2 hours = 14 Articles for me... And I do it one hour a day
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  • Profile picture of the author pwebbiz
    Victoria,

    Allen's right - it doesn't come down to how man you do an hour. It's so much more about consistency. I have a customer who orders 10, 250 word articles about internet marketing. This is a topic I'm pretty knowledgeable about - so it only takes me about 1 hr 15 mins to fill this daily order. Seems like a very short time but I am not this fast for topics I'm not that familiar with because then I have to factor in all the research.

    Anyway - now I'm starting to ramble

    The point is, I know Allen and Steven Wagenheim will agree when I sum up by saying - if you consistently put out 3 articles a day you're far ahead of everyone else who put out one or less per day. Thinking on the bright side, to get to this ideal spot - all it takes for you is one hour a day.

    Keep pumping out three a day and watch the clicks start flowing in

    Hope this all made sense in the end,

    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Amy Bass
    I think you are doing fantastic! Pumping out an article every 20 minutes is great. I can write articles rather quickly, but I admit, I burn out after a few hours. I have to take a lot of breaks in between.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    If you focus more on the traffic each article can generate from the directory to your site, I think it takes the pressure off in terms of quantity. Personally, instead of writing 2 articles say in an hour, I'll take more time on one, but make sure it has the best title I can think of and the best ending. In my opinion, those matter the most when your focus is on CTR. The results can be dramatic. I have an article with about 13,500 views at EZA, but a horrible 3% CTR. Something like 450 click-thrus. One of my more recent articles, where I really took the time to come up with a great title and an ending that really entices people to click thru to learn more, has a 26% CTR.

    I guess if you have lots of time to spend writing, go for both. Get good at coming up with intriguing titles and cliffhanger endings and pump out all you can. I wish I had 8 hours a day. If I could get 26% CTR on every article with that kind of time to invest, I'm pretty sure I could quit my J.O.B. by year's end. Sigh.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author cylwac
      Thanks John,

      It has taken me some time but I am getting better at becoming up with original and enticing titles and content.

      I'm finding the more I write the better I become.
      I wish I had time to write all day but I don't.... I doubt anyone really does, things tend to get in the way.

      Cheers,

      Victoria
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