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can be removed now, thanks.

by Martin Salter
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Okay - so all that is possible. What happens when the original owner of the video you are tweaking all over the place decides to sue you for copyright theft? Good grief - "it's possible to do this" doesn't equal "it's legal and moral to do this."
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    This is a sure fire way to get your accounts shut down for copyright infringement. The fact that a product was created to steal other people's content and re-purpose it is INSANE. Damn shame...
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Salter
    Well, I am not a lawyer, but the fact that Mozilla rolled this out I would suggest this is already covered in the legal use policy.

    As far as the ethics, if you are using video that is "educational" how is that different from what people do everyday by pulling in web content for use on their sites?

    Popcorn is a good tool from Mozilla. We will be using it for sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
      Originally Posted by Martin Salter View Post

      Having said that if you upload content to YouTube even if you say you are the original owner, you give YouTube the right to play that video however they like pretty much.
      You Tube says you must be the original owner to upload content. If you are uploading someone elses content that is breaking their rules. When they find out they will shut your account down for you breaking the rules. Its a clear violation with no justifications.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
      Originally Posted by Martin Salter View Post

      Well, I am not a lawyer, but the fact that Mozilla rolled this out I would suggest this is already covered in the legal use policy.

      Having said that if you upload content to YouTube even if you say you are the original owner, you give YouTube the right to play that video however they like pretty much. You can of course block others from doing an embed of your video, but time will tell on the law suit stuff

      As far as the ethics, if you are using video that is "educational" how is that different from what people do everyday by pulling in web content for use on their sites?

      This will boil down to personal choice at the end of the day.
      :rolleyes: No, it won't. You are 100% wrong.

      The fact that Mozilla is making it easier to rip video from the internet (which btw, is already pretty easy) does not mean you all of a sudden get a magic pass that supersedes trademark and copyright laws. Not even close.

      The "law suit stuff", as you call it does not need any time to work itself out. If you do rip people's videos or content without explicit consent, you are leaving yourself open and liable to criminal and civil judgments in a number of ways.

      There is no justification for stealing the intellectual property of others, especially for commercial purposes. Any argument to the contrary is a sad and misguided attempt to justify thievery. Plain and simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Salter
    Hi James

    Thanks for your insight. It is perfectly valid, and if you read the original post, I do mention NOT to upload back to YouTube. If you see, I mention about showing the content on YOUR OWN SITES and not YouTube.

    I do question the option to upload to other video sharing sites once made, but state that the main viewing is to use the frame that Popcorn gives you once you edit the video.

    You could also look at this as a great tool for those who make their own videos already, but do not know how to place live links over them or other content. Now they can make video, upload to youtube, then use Popcorn to overlay affiliate links, other content etc.

    As always in Warrior Forum, something which can offer some use to people gets jumped on for violation and ethics. Ho hum!
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