If you get several thousand uniques a day, how fast can you build a list?

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Anton543

By having a form in the sidebar above fold and maybe one at the end of the article. By the way, at least 95% of the visitors are relevant visitors in the sense that they land on pages with content they are looking for.

Too many variables to predict. You'll have to test.

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tac88

11 years ago

I have found my most success with just a form on the top right side before the scroll and a pop up light box, too many options confuses and puts too much pressure on the visitors. And I would test the color and form headline to find the one that brings in the most subscribers.

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Jackson Tan

11 years ago

yeah.. test it and you will know it.. is also depends on the benefits you are offering for opting in.. that is one BIG KEY..

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shane_k

11 years ago

It depends on how enticing your offer is, how much they want it, how bad they need it, how much it makes them salivate to have it. The more the better.

This takes research and understanding what those people (uniques) really, truly, absolutely want, and will make them sign up immediately for your list.

The more you hit their hot buttons and get them to salivate the quicker you will build your list.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Anton543

at least 95% of the visitors are relevant visitors in the sense that they land on pages with content they are looking for.

It still depends heavily on where they've come from, Anton.

If they've come from an effective recommendation on another site of which they're regular readers/visitors, or from an ezine/newsletter to which they've subscribed (especially if it's a paid one), several times more of them will typically opt in than if they've come from Google.

It also depends on a whole variety of other factors, too, including how well targeted the incentive is to the overall traffic, and especially on how it's presented on the landing-page.

The proportion of visitors opting in to sidebar opt-in boxes can be as high as 25%. Maybe higher. But it can also probably be as low as 1%, for poorly incentivized SEO traffic, even if it's keyword-targeted.

Here's the main point: trying to build lists quickly, and trying to build the biggest lists possible, overall, tend not to be the ways to build high-quality, responsive lists which grow into a significant long-term asset to your business. You make money only when they trust you. That's why "how fast?" is the wrong question.

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writeaway

11 years ago

Are they all looking for the same niche? If not, you might need zone-based squeeze pages. There are free plugins that can help you show ads based on zones. Check the WP codex.

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Martin Avis 11 years ago

...how fast can you build a list?

Define 'list'.

One person can make a fortune from a 'list' of a couple of hundred, while another will struggle to make anything with a list of 100,000.

You are asking the wrong question. The correct (or at least, better) question is 'how long will it take me to make money from my list?'

The answer to THAT is 'as long as it takes for you to teach them to trust you.'

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Confined To Life

11 years ago

Use a lightbox. See if you can get some of that traffic onto your squeeze page too.

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paul nicholls

11 years ago

your side bar opt in forms and pop up forms from a blog never convert that well anyway

the best thing you can do is include your opt in box in as many places as you can on your blog without making it look spammy

another thing you should do is create a separate squeeze page and link it to your blog and also sprinkle text links in and around some of your content too

your separate squeeze page converts way higher than any form on your blog and the traffic that you send to your squeeze page from your blog will be a lot more conditioned too

I have been using this technique for over 2 years to build my business ;-)

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Anton543

11 years ago

Originally Posted by paul nicholls

your side bar opt in forms and pop up forms from a blog never convert that well anyway

the best thing you can do is include your opt in box in as many places as you can on your blog without making it look spammy

another thing you should do is create a separate squeeze page and link it to your blog and also sprinkle text links in and around some of your content too

your separate squeeze page converts way higher than any form on your blog and the traffic that you send to your squeeze page from your blog will be a lot more conditioned too

I have been using this technique for over 2 years to build my business ;-)

I see your point. But most of the squeeze pages I see offer something 'free' to begin with. But my site is a broad health site so it can be difficult target something that will be useful to all. This is why I want to build a subscriber base that receptive to not just one set of health information only.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Anton543

my site is a broad health site so it can be difficult target something that will be useful to all.

That's why you have the problem you asked about in this thread, among others, Anton.

You were given a lot of good advice from experienced list-builders there (and elsewhere), but I'm wondering whether you really "heard" it, because you're still asking about it in terms of huge numbers and speed, not in terms of quality, targeting and relevance - and quality, targeting and relevance are where the money is.

You said in another thread that your direct-linking to a $200 product produced 3,000 hops and 4 sales of which 2 were refunded. I appreciate completely that you're trying to improve on that by building lists, and of course that's the right thing for you to do. I'm sure we'd all hate to see you ending up building a non-responsive list, though, after all the misgivings and reluctance you've been expressing here, for so many weeks, about list-building.

I mean this helpfully, not critically at all, but that's why a "big strategic rethink" might be far more useful to you than trying to "graft on an opt-in" to what you're already doing. My feeling is that that isn't your answer - you'll be better off with a business designed around list-building.

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Anton543

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

That's why you have the problem you asked about in this thread, among others, Anton.

You were given a lot of good advice from experienced list-builders there (and elsewhere), but I'm wondering whether you really "heard" it, because you're still asking about it in terms of huge numbers and speed, not in terms of quality, targeting and relevance - and quality, targeting and relevance are where the money is.

You said in another thread that your direct-linking to a $200 product produced 3,000 hops and 4 sales of which 2 were refunded. I appreciate completely that you're trying to improve on that by building lists, and of course that's the right thing for you to do. I'm sure we'd all hate to see you ending up building a non-responsive list, though, after all the misgivings and reluctance you've been expressing here, for so many weeks, about list-building.

I mean this helpfully, not critically at all, but that's why a "big strategic rethink" might be far more useful to you than trying to "graft on an opt-in" to what you're already doing. My feeling is that that isn't your answer - you'll be better off with a business designed around list-building.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, you are right. I got loads of hops (over 5K) for one of the products and around half went on to the order page, resulting in only 4 sales, two of which were refunded.

To be honest, I think the list building is the easier part, but I think its going to be too time consuming if you start several lists, and then having to compose regular emails to send them. I do have couple of niche sites so I wouldn't much problem there, and to be honest, even sending site's posts will be good enough because of the type of niche they are, but my main site with significant traffic is a general health site. Perhaps I could send information covering several of the major health conditions, and when I send offers, again, it could be offers covering several conditions in the same email.

I do appreciate the help from people on this forum, particularly yourself. I do not mean to be a pest, just trying to get this right before I begin.

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Alexa Smith Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Anton543

To be honest, I think the list building is the easier part

Yes, there's something in that!

Originally Posted by Anton543

I do appreciate the help from people on this forum, particularly yourself. I do not mean to be a pest, just trying to get this right before I begin.

I know ... I just hope you don't ever think my posts come across "unkindly": that isn't my intention at all. We're all wishing you well!
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raffman999

11 years ago

Visitors want a reason to sign up to your list, so a quality free gift which either ads value or appears generous is a good way to attract subscribers.

Of course how you then treat your subscribers will determine whether you make any money from them. Think about building trust and credibility; monetising a list is a marathon not a sprint.

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