The most successful Internet Marketers Hangout.... I wonder

You last me towards the end there.

Most uber successful marketers are too busy working or relaxing.

The dudes in the middle, visit. Trust me, they do.

I would imagine that the most uber successful marketers have people working for them who would visit here at least on occasion. Those people probably keep them posted on what's trending in here.

Why would the most successful internet marketers hang out on the Warrior Forum...?

Clearly, to explore all of the wonderful and great programs that are in the WSO section surely! :rolleyes:

Seriously though, the only millionaire marketer I've ever seen in the Warrior Forum was Kelly Felix and that was to sell off his BTF program for a $7 trial. Now, if you count the self-proclaimed millionaires and successes in the forum, then there are plenty of those people hanging around.

They're not laying around and doing nothing as often as you think they are. People like Frank Kern are constantly on the go and thinking of the next product to sell to people. I seriously doubt he comes here for inspiration or to gain new information XD

Three years ago, at least in my little town, there were a certain group of business owners who seemed to have it by the tail.

Huge new homes. A hummer and a vette sitting in the 100 grand attached garage with the studio apartment above for guest. Tailored clothing and a Lexus for their new 16 year old driver to parade in the school parking lot.

They seemed to forget those of us who had been in business for years. We didn't quiet stack up to the credentials it took to remain a friend. Some of us were driving a car 2 or 3 years old .. who could blame them?

Fast forward to today.

Those same elite apparently were living on borrowed money and credit cards. the economy dried up and so did their rob Peter to pay Paul businesses. They now find themselves driving second hand cars that come with a 29% interest rate because they have no credit.

They are living in a rented place now .. hell .. some of them are back in Mom and Dad's basement.

Things are not always as they seem.

Most if not all successful marketers do not hang out around here. I'd say a good % of them can't stand this forum (blind leading the blind). They don't have the time to goof around on forums because they are too busy working or enjoying their wealth.

The most successful Internet Marketers such as the owners and leaders of:

• Amazon.com
• Google.com
• Yahoo.com
• Facebook.com
• Ebay.com
• Paypal.com
• Microsoft.com

No, haven't seen them around.

Mark

I'm intrigued by all these definitions of "success".

To me, success is having the reached the stage where you are free to decide to work or not work, depending on your mood.

News flash. Being successful is not JUST about the money. Being successful is about being happy and having the money to be able to live the life you want to live.

Personally, I enjoy marketing -- always have. That's WHY I do it. If it were just for the money then I wouldn't be here. You have to enjoy what you do to be truly happy. And just like people who are interested in golf will hang out in a golf forum, I hang out in the Warrior Forum because I am interested in marketing.

Where people hang out has nothing to do with how much money they are making. In fact you could argue those who are 'uber' successful don't hang out in forums like this because they simply don't have the time to. But is that really success if you have no time to enjoy the finer things in life?

I know which I'd rather.

Well, I reasonably certain that Bill Gates isn't here and Frank Kern is well known to hate the Warrior Forum. A lot of gurus were chased away by negativity and unwarranted or warranted skepticism, don't know which as I haven't seen more than a handful of them here myself ... at least not in their own name and active.

What? Frank Kern's videos are some of the most informative videos I've ever seen.

As far as "real" and "genuine" reviews go. *points over to the WSO section*

I mean come on now...

The only real difference between WSO products and Guru products is that Gurus sell their products for hundreds or thousands and tend to go more into depth while Warriors sell their products for $7 and sometimes even $1... There are some products in there for $46, $67 or in some very rare cases, even more.

I don't get all the hate against Gurus.. why hate them? Why not study them, copy their marketing tactics, their system and learn from them to do what they do? I agree not everyone wants to be where they are and wants to live their lifestyle but those of us that do should be studying them and not hating on them.

A lot of the things Frank say has a lot of truth in it and I think a lot of people hate him from here because he doesn't sugarcoat things. He's straight forward and says it how it is.

I used one of his quotes that I heard on a CD a lot, which was "People Suck".

I saw James Schramko post here not too long ago. And I do believe that he's made a little money on the internet.

As for success, I completely agree that measuring it only by money is a mistake (though it makes things easy I suppose). You need enough money to do what you want to do, but after that? What's the point? I'd much rather have an extra four hours a day (as, in fact, I do) to do what I want than work those four hours to make "extra" money.

The most important question is whether the top income earners can make enough from their time spent here.

Generating 250 leads a day may sound like an non-achievable number for most people here. For people who are making 350k a month this number may not even grab their attention!

The people you surround yourself with and the tasks you do should never be below your current potential level. If all of the sudden you start doing less profitable tasks and start to surround yourself with lower level people, your income shrinks.

I don't think they hang here

Most successful internet marketers hangout in their private Skype groups. Some of them hangout in paid forums though I don't think they post much or none at all.

Do they hangout in the Warrior Forum? I think they do, this Forum cannot be ignored. Even Matt Cutts hangs out here as is evident from his recent video. They hangout here for the information, mostly of what does not work and some of what works. Not many people will disclose what really works.

I think alot of the big names in the IM industry would be foolish not to stick around here since WE are their target market, it's all about understanding what's going on in the industry NOW, so they can pick the pain points.

Whether they're actually here themselves or hire people, or perhaps are part of high level masterminds that is fed data from others, in someway or another, they must know what's going on here.

As for keeping up with the latest innovations in the marketing world, I don't think so.

I believe at a certain level it can be compared much to providing online marketing services to local business owners, you resell services to these business owners and provide value by properly coordinating the "play" to be profitable for them.

Once you get to a certain income level, you can start to pay others for their services and coordinate your own game. Using Shramcko for example (who IMO is an absolute boss and takes IM to a whole nother level by applying not only marketing but actual proper business principles). I know that he hires out a Facebook PPC specialist to run his Facebook campaigns, he doesn't worry about the absolute indepths of it, but knows enough to properly apply it to his business to accomplish his goals.

Long answer short, they're here in someway if they're targeting the IM niche, because they want to know what YOU'RE thinking about.

Thanks,

James

Top IM'ers hang out in their own private Skype groups, email groups, private mastermind groups, etc. Most of them hardly ever spend time in the WF.

I'd be pretty shocked if any of these people post here....
Speakers | ad-tech

And that list just scratches the surface.

This forum has it's purposes, but serving as the hangout for high functioning marketers/developers/producers/whoever isn't one of them. A few here and there hit the forums, but that's the extent of it.

You see, we all have a disease that pulls us to forums. Maybe there will be a cure WSO someday...

A couple of things, the most successful marketers in the world wont be hanging out here, at least not until they want to launch something and test it as a WSO.

The most uber successful marketers also would have the time to as they have plenty of systems in place to run their businesses without them, so they could but would probably prefer to be sat by the pool with their spare time.

The Uber successful may well of been here when they started out, infact I can name a few that sent me here and make 10s millions a year.

But there are plenty of successful marketers in here still active, just levelling up and leveraging this to take them to the next level.

It is a great resource tool to see what people are talking about, so on the way up can be important, but for the top ones they likely have others checking in just as research for their latest plan.

Eh.. I would beg to differ that point by quite a bit. The sellers over at the WSO section have their target market here, and while there are people here who are willing to shell out several hundred or a couple grand for a product, that's a very small number of people who can or will.

Be careful You'll get some of those double posters in here stirring up a riot and telling you about how much money they "make".

Aside from that, I actually did meet someone recently (very recent) who said he frequents the Warrior Forum. He's one of the top ASP.net developers in the country, so you can imagine he makes a pretty decent living. He also has side products through various affiliate networks and what not, interesting person. I brought up this thread and wanted to see what he thought about successful internet marketers coming to the Warrior Forum.

His exact words were "Yeah, I come to the Warrior Forum to study my sheep and get a good laugh now and again. Other than that.. no." He then went onto compare WF like the Unemployment line of the internet and said it'll always be filled with the same people looking to get rich off of hopes and dreams and never moving forward.

Can't really argue his point there with a lot of people, but I'm sure some people from here will make it big.

I don't even think the guy has 25 posts and has probably been registered here for years.

Actually, the more successful the internet marketer, the less likely they are going to be found lurking around forums all day. Forums can be a big time waster unless you use them correctly.

The most succesfull IM already know the basic theory how to make money that actually really simple..YES it's a good product ,service, marketing and hardworking ! while many newbie here struggling for theory of making money and wasting their time