Is this how it really goes with CB?

11 years ago

If you want to maximize your profits when promoting clickbank products and any other
affiliate products then creating your own free offer and squeeze page is the way to go

Generate targeted traffic and then after they opt in, redirect them to the clickbank offer

You still make sales and at the same time you get their contact details so you can make additional sales within your follow ups emails which go out over a number or days and weeks

This is how it works in a nutshell :-)

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John Atkins

11 years ago

You can promote CB products anyway you like. I have never promoted CB products
that way for the same reason you suggested. I find decent products that
convert well and promote them directly, most of the time through my lists.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Jensha

When promoting CB products, do you first write something about it in your blog or site or landing page then put the link on it at the bottom or something?

I don't do this so much.

You can, but you can't really hope to make sales of ClickBank products without list-building. Information products are an email marketing business.

This may help you, Jensha: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

Originally Posted by Jensha

Or do you write something just related to it?

I have 8 different niche sites. Niche sites - not product sites. And I build 8 lists from them, and then to each list of subscribers I can promote several different ClickBank products by email.

Most of the money in affiliate marketing comes from repeat sales to the same customers.

And almost all of it (with ClickBank products) comes from list-building.

Originally Posted by Jensha

I thought, it goes like this. On our blog or website with whatever the niche is, we write content related to the product we are promoting, or perhaps something about the product, then create a sales page where we put the hoplink to the CB product.

Yes, you can have some hoplinks on your niche site as well, and many people do (I do, also) but I make very, very few sales that way. Nearly all my sales come from subscribers. And there are reasons for that.

Originally Posted by Jensha

Do we just have to create a landing page about that product? Then put a link to the sales page at the bottom, side or wherever we want to put the hoplink? Won't that be redundant? We're going to talk about the product then when the visitor goes to the sales page he/she is going to read about it again?

Affiliates pre-sell. Vendors sell.

Selling would be redundant, yes. But you can recommend, and talk about the niche, and a little about the product as long as you don't try to sell it too much. Let the vendor do that, and choose products for which the vendor does it well.

ClickBank products sell to people who buy them on the strength of the recommendation made for them. That doesn't mean literally "how strong/forceful the recommendation is"; it means "how much they trust the person offering the recommendation".

It's all about trust.

To get the sale, as an affiliate, you have to become the person the customer trusts.

I can show you 10-12 other good threads to read about selling ClickBank products, whenever you want. But it all starts here with the basic essentials - you have to understand these clearly to be able to set off on the learning curve (and it's a real learning curve!) in the right direction: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

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Jensha

11 years ago

Originally Posted by IM Headlines

You can promote CB products anyway you like. I have never promoted CB products
that way for the same reason you suggested. I find decent products that
convert well and promote them directly, most of the time through my lists.

I see. Thanks.

Originally Posted by paul nicholls

If you want to maximize your profits when promoting clickbank products and any other
affiliate products then creating your own free offer and squeeze page is the way to go

Generate targeted traffic and then after they opt in, redirect them to the clickbank offer

You still make sales and at the same time you get their contact details so you can make additional sales within your follow ups emails which go out over a number or days and weeks

This is how it works in a nutshell :-)

Thanks I get it now. You made a very good summary of it for me how it works.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I don't do this so much.

You can, but you can't really hope to make sales of ClickBank products without list-building. Information products are an email marketing business.

This may help you, Jensha: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

I have 8 different niche sites. Niche sites - not product sites. And I build 8 lists from them, and then to each list of subscribers I can promote several different ClickBank products by email.

Most of the money in affiliate marketing comes from repeat sales to the same customers.

And almost all of it (with ClickBank products) comes from list-building.

Yes, you can have some hoplinks on your niche site as well, and many people do (I do, also) but I make very, very few sales that way. Nearly all my sales come from subscribers. And there are reasons for that.

Affiliates pre-sell. Vendors sell.

Selling would be redundant, yes. But you can recommend, and talk about the niche, and a little about the product as long as you don't try to sell it too much. Let the vendor do that, and choose products for which the vendor does it well.

ClickBank products sell to people who buy them on the strength of the recommendation made for them. That doesn't mean literally "how strong/forceful the recommendation is"; it means "how much they trust the person offering the recommendation".

It's all about trust.

To get the sale, as an affiliate, you have to become the person the customer trusts.

I can show you 10-12 other good threads to read about selling ClickBank products, whenever you want. But it all starts here with the basic essentials - you have to understand these clearly to be able to set off on the learning curve (and it's a real learning curve!) in the right direction: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

Thank you so much Alexa. It's all starting to make sense now. I was concentrating on adsense because well, it's a whole lot easier to understand. You earn everytime someone clicks on your ads. Period. But now I understand why a lot of people would pay for an email list. So that's how important a squeeze page is, to lure subscribers to subscribe to your site. Even if you're not really promoting anything at your site, they'll most probably buy in the products that you sell through email. Darn... So I guess I really have to study Aweber for an auto responder and other opt ins for subscription since there's more money to it than promoting products to my site.

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Jensha

11 years ago

Oh and about the 10-12 other good threads Alexa I'm really interested. Can you post it here please or PM it to me?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Jensha

So that's how important a squeeze page is, to lure subscribers to subscribe to your site. Even if you're not really promoting anything at your site, they'll most probably buy in the products that you sell through email.

Well, a squeeze page isn't the only way of building a list, but what you say above is certainly true.

Originally Posted by Jensha

Darn... So I guess I really have to study Aweber for an auto responder and other opt ins for subscription since there's more money to it than promoting products to my site.

GetResponse or Aweber, yes. (It's another outlay of $15/$20 per month, from the second month, but stay away from free autoresponders!). Nobody's making much by direct linking from their sites to ClickBank hoplinks. It's ok to have those links there, too, but even the sales arising from those are really sales made by email, because you need email communications to keep the traffic coming back to your site to click those links. Very, very few people buy anything at their first visit to a niche site, and not so many of the ones who don't opt in will ever return.

Originally Posted by Jensha

Oh and about the 10-12 other good threads Alexa I'm really interested. Can you post it here please or PM it to me?

Ooh, 10-12 might have been an exaggeration!

Here are some to start your collection, though.

How to choose products to promote: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932

What "gravity" really means: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2495251
Understanding Clickbank Gravity
Clickbank gravity - is there a sweet-spot here?

Why you should never promote a ClickBank product which has a vendor's opt-in on its sales page: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oduct-opt.html

Customer distribution requirement: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7364374

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7154524

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7290009

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Jensha

11 years ago

Thanks Alexa for sharing the threads. Well, to me they're worth more than 12 good other threads with a similar topic. Those threads you shared are really good. Love your arguments with the debate on some of the threads there by the way.

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(I didn't create a new thread for these new questions to save all of the information to just this one thread. Hope I did the right thing though.)

Guys, I have another question that popped in my head about promoting products. Something that I think I should have first asked also when I started this thread.

Again, I was browsing to the products at Click Bank and at JVzoo.

The one that got my attention for today was at JVzoo because all the product I saw today has a sales page included.

These swirled in my mind are:
Can we copy their sales page, then put it at a new page in our site that has the same niche?

OR

Maybe not the exact sales page, just copy the content like all the texts and then paste it on our blog/blog site for the same niche?

Of course with some editing done already like changing our names to it but not the affiliate links of course.

Are you guys doing this?
Has anyone of you ever asked this to a vendor and got approved?
Or in general, are vendors okay with this? I mean it's still their product that we'll still be promoting right?

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Alexa Smith Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Jensha

Love your arguments with the debate on some of the threads there by the way.

They're an "acquired taste".

Originally Posted by Jensha

Can we copy their sales page, then put it at a new page in our site that has the same niche?

You need their permission to do this. (Why would you want to? I'm not asking altogether rhetorically, and I do see there are - just about - some circumstances under which you might. Personally, if any of those reasons arises, I just choose another product instead, but I don't say that's "right" and that what you suggest is "wrong" - it just suits me).

Originally Posted by Jensha

OR
Maybe not the exact sales page, just copy the content like all the texts and then paste it on our blog/blog site for the same niche?

You definitely need permission for this (though my guess is that you'll normally get it without too much difficulty).

Originally Posted by Jensha

Has anyone of you ever asked this to a vendor and got approved?

I've asked for and been given permission to quote (typically testimonials) from sales pages in my pre-selling material (though it isn't something I often want to do).

I've also asked for a change to be made in the sales page, and/or for a different version to be put up for me (and/or anyone else interested) to use, because there was something about the current version that prevented me from being willing to send my traffic to it. I've asked this on 7 occasions now, and it's been done for me on 5 of those occasions. (What I've asked has always been something sensible that was actually going to help the vendor, too, of course).

Originally Posted by Jensha

Or in general, are vendors okay with this? I mean it's still their product that we'll still be promoting right?

My guess is that they are, usually, but don't assume that the fact that you're promoting their product entitles you to use their material without permission. (Some, of course, have an "affiliate page" in which they make some stuff available expressly for affiliates, and you don't need permission to use any/all of that).
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Lloyd Buchinski 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Jensha

Can we copy their sales page, then put it at a new page in our site that has the same niche?

If you click on an affiliate link, it takes you to the vendor's sales page. What would be the point of copying their page and putting your affiliate link in it? The customer would just see it twice.
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- Alexa Smith Banned 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Lloyd Buchinski
  
  What would be the point of copying their page and putting your affiliate link in it?
  
  The normal reason people do this, I think (though there are various other possible reasons, too) is that they don't want their subscribers to have access to the vendor's opt-in on his own copy of the sales page, for all the reasons explained throughout this fine thread, so they prefer to have their own copy of the sales page, without that risk.
  
  Clearly nobody's suggesting that one would send one's traffic from one copy of the sales page to another copy of the same page, but to the order-page.
  
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Jensha

11 years ago

Thank you alexa as always, you've been very helpful.

I thought no one would ever notice my second question because I can't change the title of this thread so I create a new thread for this . I messed up.

It's here but it's okay now since you answered it. ^_^
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7520829

The only difference is that I mentioned there about the (sort of) verbatim text the vendor seems to want us to use when we promote his products. thanks!!!

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