How to make a quick list of peoples who are willing to buy not freebie seekers.

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Hello All,

I have read many eBooks and have tried many methods but most of them tell same thing. Is there any method you guys would like to share which could get list of buyers if not then at least list of peoples who are interested in my product not only freebie seekers.

Looking forward for experts solutions.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrelk159
    I would suggest doing an opt-in where they have to pay $1, so something like "opt-in for $1 and get 10% off you product!"

    This way only the serious buyers will opt-in, good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
      Originally Posted by mrelk159 View Post

      I would suggest doing an opt-in where they have to pay $1, so something like "opt-in for $1 and get 10% off you product!"

      This way only the serious buyers will opt-in, good luck.
      Great idea. There are tons of tire kickers in the world and this idea can separate them from the serious people. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    I agree with the gentlemen posting above.

    Selling something (even for $1) builds you a list of people known to have either a credit-card or a PayPal account and the ability and willingness to use it. It's a "buyers' list".

    (Of course, it may also lose some people who would have opted in for a free download and bought later, but that's the price you pay for avoiding signing up a large number of people who would have downloaded a freebie and not bought anything later).
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    I concur. I recently started charging $1 per signup and it is indeed filtering out the tire-kickers. I am getting less signups, but I feel that they are higher quality signups.

    Did it with the s2Member plugin...free version...works great.
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  • Profile picture of the author KingMedia
    Agree with above statements.

    Sell something initially cheap (under $10) and really good - after they buy, automatically move those folks onto your "buyers list" (you can do that in Aweber). You will have 2 lists set up for this.

    Then, you have a buyers list.
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  • Profile picture of the author zaccks
    I've asked similar question in the past and best answer is "list built from your previous customers"

    And the best way to do it is launch high quality WSO and offer 100% commission to the product which will attract more affiliates to promote your product.

    after the purchase provide short contact form for the buyer to fill his name and email before giving him access to the download link.

    that's the best way to build responsive list, NOT FREEBIE SEEKERS!
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    I appreciate all the great responses and will implement that soon. Very soon.

    Thank you,
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  • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
    You can pay for solo ads with someone who is trustworthy. That is fastest way to build a buyer's list. Just make sure you ask the vendor to see if they are building a freebie list. You don't want that!
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  • Profile picture of the author Doppelbock
    sale a free product with an up sale tied at the end is another way, especially to see what you can work with on your current list.
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  • Profile picture of the author justinshaw
    WSOs are probably the easiest way.

    Create a GOOD QUALITY (emphasis on the good quality) product and list it for sale. Don't make it $30, put it in the $7 or so price point, maybe even less if your goal is to get optins. The important thing is, you want people to buy.

    Hell, if you list your product for $5 and get 8 people to buy it, you've gotten 8 FREE optins, since they'll have covered the cost of listing your WSO. Not to mention, on top of that, you know that 100% of your list are buyers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Here's another take...

    You can turn freebie seekers into buyers. What I do is now and then make an offer so attractive even freebie seekers are tempted to buy. The last time I did this I had around 300 first time buyers.

    The key to making this work is to make the proverbial "no-brainer" offer, and to give them a plausible reason for making the offer - otherwise many will doubt the value of the actual product(s) you're offering.

    The key to making sure they are repeat buyers is to over-deliver on your promises.
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  • Profile picture of the author martimoney
    I still give away a free product then send them to an inviter page where they can share my squeeze page with their social networks. If they do that they gt a bonus freebie. I then send them to a $1 product. If they purchase I automatically put them on to a buyers list in my auto responder. Of course they all, buyers or not, are then sent to an upsell. If they buy there again they are segmented onto my aweber list for the price point they bought at. Basically my funnel builds me three lists: freebie, low buyer and upsell buyers. The auto responder sequences then offer tons of value and products in which they can invest around their price entry point.
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    create your own product and then once they buy segment them into a buyers list

    you can then create more expensive products and send your subscribers deeper into your sales funnels depending on what product they purchase

    it's really not difficult but you do need your own product if you're serious about building your own customer base
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    If you want a buyer's list, then offer something cheap on the frontend. Then on the backend offer your customers some products for a higher price.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeen12
    All good advice...pick one strategy and run with it, and then adjust!
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  • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
    Every list member has their place.

    In 3 weeks you can move a freebie seeker through a funnel that will place them somewhere that they are making you money. When you charge a cover fee to get on your list .. you may be proving your list but you are also leaving a lot of money on the table. There are many ways of making good money from people who do not have a credit card or a pay pal account.

    This comes from the view point of someone who creates their own products but there are several of us on the WF who puts out PLR type products for those who do not have their own.

    A typical funnel that can profit from freebie seekers can be as simple as this.

    You have a freebie giveaway that no one can say no to in your niche. Your OTO is very relative to the freebie and priced at a point most can easily afford it. It is hard to go from a free product to an upsale of $25 or so.

    You offer several price points until you reach your end product. Those price points are very niche specific. Somewhere in the funnel you must make the decision to take those who are not buying and set them into their own list.

    Now a lot of people are taking these non buyers and using them for solo ads. I think this is bad business as the person buying the solo ad is getting pooped on.

    It is much better to set up an adsense site optimized for very high click pay out. These types of sites do not make the SEO marketer any money because the competition is so high they can never rank enough to get traffic but if you optimize them for high pay out keywords and then supply the traffic via your freebie seeker email list .. they are still making you money.

    I have sites like these and they are getting $3 and more a click. If I had offered a $1 entry fee to my list I would have lost those $3 clicks. It is easy to make $150 to $300 an email from those only on your freebie list.
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    • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
      I think your idea will not work.. Don't take me wrong.. I am not criticizing at all.. Just telling you from my experience.. Most of people have made dummy emails.. which they only use to get the free eBook. Once they got the freebie they never open the next email... 2nd if I made a list in IM business and then I made a site on debt or forex. So, why will that list even come to visit that site.. Or even if they will open it first time.. but next time they gonna un subscribe for sure. Because its like they are asking for cake and you are presenting them soup.. so they will kick you butt.. This is only what I think.. Looking forward to hear your thoughts.

      Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

      Every list member has their place.

      In 3 weeks you can move a freebie seeker through a funnel that will place them somewhere that they are making you money. When you charge a cover fee to get on your list .. you may be proving your list but you are also leaving a lot of money on the table. There are many ways of making good money from people who do not have a credit card or a pay pal account.

      This comes from the view point of someone who creates their own products but there are several of us on the WF who puts out PLR type products for those who do not have their own.

      A typical funnel that can profit from freebie seekers can be as simple as this.

      You have a freebie giveaway that no one can say no to in your niche. Your OTO is very relative to the freebie and priced at a point most can easily afford it. It is hard to go from a free product to an upsale of $25 or so.

      You offer several price points until you reach your end product. Those price points are very niche specific. Somewhere in the funnel you must make the decision to take those who are not buying and set them into their own list.

      Now a lot of people are taking these non buyers and using them for solo ads. I think this is bad business as the person buying the solo ad is getting pooped on.

      It is much better to set up an adsense site optimized for very high click pay out. These types of sites do not make the SEO marketer any money because the competition is so high they can never rank enough to get traffic but if you optimize them for high pay out keywords and then supply the traffic via your freebie seeker email list .. they are still making you money.

      I have sites like these and they are getting $3 and more a click. If I had offered a $1 entry fee to my list I would have lost those $3 clicks. It is easy to make $150 to $300 an email from those only on your freebie list.
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy_Phillips
        Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

        I think your idea will not work.. Don't take me wrong.. I am not criticizing at all.. Just telling you from my experience.. Most of people have made dummy emails.. which they only use to get the free eBook. Once they got the freebie they never open the next email... 2nd if I made a list in IM business and then I made a site on debt or forex. So, why will that list even come to visit that site.. Or even if they will open it first time.. but next time they gonna un subscribe for sure. Because its like they are asking for cake and you are presenting them soup.. so they will kick you butt.. This is only what I think.. Looking forward to hear your thoughts.
        You see the problem is you are thinking and I am working off of experience. Your first objection about fake emails. ...

        You never give the freebie away via ebook. The list member must open emails to get the freebie .. in parts. It is easy to cull the fakers. Just usnsub anyone who doesn't open 3 emails in a row. Fakers are easy to deal with if you are offering your freebie in a lesson format.

        Your second objection ... Why would you offer IM type freebies and then send them to forex type pages? If you are not going to be relevant .. email marketing will never pay off for you.

        If you set up IM lessons it is very easy to send the member to an optimizes adsense page containing a lesson. Set up a lesson on email marketing .. the pay out is easily $3 per click or better.

        I know this works for the fact I am doing it in the real time. While I do some "I think" type of post om my own blogs, I do not post on the WF about ideals , far too many newbies will take theory and run with it.

        Email marketing is a great way to make money online but it is not as set and forget as many would lead you to believe. There is some actual work to it. You must understand how to stay relevant from first ad to finish product and in every portion of the funnel.

        You must be willing to cull those members who are not your target. Learn how to market to your list and you will soon figure out it is better to have a responsive list of 500 than a thrown together list of 5000.

        Troy
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        • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
          Great Idea Troy,

          I got you completely now and agree with you. You know sometimes in start things seems hard to understand and when you give details.. It could become AWESOME!!... thank you for your help.

          Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

          You see the problem is you are thinking and I am working off of experience. Your first objection about fake emails. ...

          You never give the freebie away via ebook. The list member must open emails to get the freebie .. in parts. It is easy to cull the fakers. Just usnsub anyone who doesn't open 3 emails in a row. Fakers are easy to deal with if you are offering your freebie in a lesson format.

          Your second objection ... Why would you offer IM type freebies and then send them to forex type pages? If you are not going to be relevant .. email marketing will never pay off for you.

          If you set up IM lessons it is very easy to send the member to an optimizes adsense page containing a lesson. Set up a lesson on email marketing .. the pay out is easily $3 per click or better.

          I know this works for the fact I am doing it in the real time. While I do some "I think" type of post om my own blogs, I do not post on the WF about ideals , far too many newbies will take theory and run with it.

          Email marketing is a great way to make money online but it is not as set and forget as many would lead you to believe. There is some actual work to it. You must understand how to stay relevant from first ad to finish product and in every portion of the funnel.

          You must be willing to cull those members who are not your target. Learn how to market to your list and you will soon figure out it is better to have a responsive list of 500 than a thrown together list of 5000.

          Troy
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        • Profile picture of the author George Wright
          Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips View Post

          You see the problem is you are thinking
          Troy,

          Truest yet funniest IM related thing I've read all year

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      • Profile picture of the author W.P. Allen
        Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

        I think your idea will not work.. Don't take me wrong.. I am not criticizing at all.. Just telling you from my experience.. Most of people have made dummy emails.. which they only use to get the free eBook. Once they got the freebie they never open the next email... 2nd if I made a list in IM business and then I made a site on debt or forex. So, why will that list even come to visit that site.. Or even if they will open it first time.. but next time they gonna un subscribe for sure. Because its like they are asking for cake and you are presenting them soup.. so they will kick you butt.. This is only what I think.. Looking forward to hear your thoughts.
        If you are providing high quality, relevant information then your subscribers will want to read your emails.
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  • Profile picture of the author MusicMinCoach
    It's amazing timing that this topic should come up now. I just purchased Ari Rothland's WSO the "Bill Collector Slayer" course, and he talked about this very concept in the first few pages. It was the first time I'd ever heard anyone say NOT to give away a free offer.

    In a tough niche like mine, where people do tend to want everything free, it was a real epiphany. I've been giving away a free 5 day vocal training course to join my list. While they rant and rave about it, most people opt-out on day 5 of that course. Sure I'm promoting my paid course at the end, but the people I'm attracting never had any intention of paying for anything to begin with.

    So after reading Ari's course and getting some advice from him about it, I'll be changing that funnel to offer 1 "sample" lesson. At the end of that lesson I'll offer the opportunity to get the other 4 at a very low price, say $5. At the bottom of each one of those videos I'll promote my paid course as an option to get even more training.

    I have no doubt this is going to make a huge difference for me, especially as I continue to work through his course, get all my sales funnels tight and converting, and start driving targeted traffic to them. Now I'll be automatically filtering out all the freebie seekers and dealing with people I know will spend money on their ministry. It may be a smaller number, but in the end it will be a much more productive one, I believe.
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  • Profile picture of the author IanGreenwood
    I've been playing around with online "application forms" (admittedly not in the IM niche) and the rate of sales from those willing to complete an "application form" are much higher than those coming straight from a squeeze page.

    The previous funnel was :- banner ads => squeeze page => free video => follow up sales emails

    Changed to:- banner ads => squeeze page => upsell => free video => follow up sales emails

    Now is:- banner ads => squeeze page => application form => upsell => free video => follow up sales emails

    Addition of the application form gave a 12.6% increase in the uptake of the upsell, although the dropout after the squeeze page was also increased by a few percentage points. Still working through the figures for the those not taking the upsell but buying from the email follow up.

    Obviously those who buy the upsell are added to a different "buyers only" list.

    Sorry can't give away market details here - you understand :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author primeaque86
    Most people love freebies, that's the truth, I even love giveaways and 100% free items from bloggers and marketers... but I have realized that paying for something worth it... so, you have the clue now, try to look for people like me. But it's not easy, you need to prove that your ebooks are worthy for spending some bucks - and that's a challenge for you to take
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  • Profile picture of the author David Micheal
    Study and do research about buyer keyword that related to your product. Rank your website according to that keyword and you will get buyer list.
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  • Profile picture of the author drr
    I too would go with the $1 trial method. It also works to get genuine leads when you're doing ad swaps/solos and to weed out poor ad campaigns/solo ad sources.

    Here's an interesting story - A while back I used to do lots of ad swaps.

    I noticed with a couple of people that while I was getting tons of subscribers, sales were zero. zip. nada. That was a little curious, as the ad was targeted and I knew my own list was lapping up the offer. In the next swap with the "dodgy" swappers, I switched to a free $1 trial instead of an email opt in - how many did I get? Not a single one.
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