Embedding YouTube Videos In Paid Membership Websites

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I remember watching a video from a Guru that mentioned creating content for membership website is easy and one of the ways to do that would be to look for relevant videos in your niche and have them on your membership site.

Of course, he didn't mention that as the only way of creating content but it was a significant part.

As I read the other thread about embedding YouTube videos on your website, I was wondering if you are allowed to embed YouTube videos in a paid membership site.
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  • Profile picture of the author yourreviewer
    Originally Posted by Brian Owens View Post

    I'm not sure what you do if customers find the videos on YouTube for free later though...and I'm sure the video owners wouldn't appreciate you selling access to their content without them getting any money.
    Yes, the video owners may not be pleased though others would argue they always have the option of disabling the embed code. But my question was is it legal to do that?
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  • Profile picture of the author blackjack
    Originally Posted by Brian Owens View Post

    I remember seeing something like this from Jason Moffat years ago. I think he made a info product about surfing lessons entirely out of other people's YouTube videos if memory serves. Took him like 10 minutes to create a new product. lol...
    Brian

    Do you know which product of Jason did this topic covered?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    Originally Posted by yourreviewer View Post

    I remember watching a video from a Guru that mentioned creating content for membership website is easy and one of the ways to do that would be to look for relevant videos in your niche and have them on your membership site.

    Of course, he didn't mention that as the only way of creating content but it was a significant part.

    As I read the other thread about embedding YouTube videos on your website, I was wondering if you are allowed to embed YouTube videos in a paid membership site.

    This would be a violation of YouTube's ToS and is not allowed.

    YouTube ToS allow you to share videos using their embed code but they do not allow you to use the videos commercially or for making money from "the service".

    Having the videos behind a paid member site would be a violation of YouTube's "non-commercial use" requirement.

    You may get away with it and be ignored, but you would always be at risk of YouTube shutting your site down.

    Mahlon
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

      This would be a violation of YouTube's ToS and is not allowed.

      YouTube ToS allow you to share videos using their embed code but they do not allow you to use the videos commercially or for making money from "the service".

      Having the videos behind a paid member site would be a violation of YouTube's "non-commercial use" requirement.

      You may get away with it and be ignored, but you would always be at risk of YouTube shutting your site down.

      Mahlon
      I believe this is incorrect. Here's what I could find in Youtube's TOS regarding commercial use. And I couldn't find anything concerning private membership sites.

      4. General Use of the Service--Permissions and Restrictions

      YouTube hereby grants you permission to access and use the Service as set forth in these Terms of Service, provided that:
      1. You agree not to distribute in any medium any part of the Service or the Content without YouTube's prior written authorization, unless YouTube makes available the means for such distribution through functionality offered by the Service (such as the Embeddable Player).
      2. You agree not to alter or modify any part of the Service.
      3. You agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Service itself, the Embeddable Player, or other explicitly authorized means YouTube may designate.
      4. You agree not to use the Service for any of the following commercial uses unless you obtain YouTube's prior written approval:
        • the sale of access to the Service;
        • the sale of advertising, sponsorships, or promotions placed on or within the Service or Content; or
        • the sale of advertising, sponsorships, or promotions on any page of an ad-enabled blog or website containing Content delivered via the Service, unless other material not obtained from YouTube appears on the same page and is of sufficient value to be the basis for such sales.
      5. Prohibited commercial uses do not include:
        • uploading an original video to YouTube, or maintaining an original channel on YouTube, to promote your business or artistic enterprise;
        • showing YouTube videos through the Embeddable Player on an ad-enabled blog or website, subject to the advertising restrictions set forth above in Section 4.D; or
        • any use that YouTube expressly authorizes in writing.
      Terms of Service - YouTube
      What kinds of commercial uses of the YouTube website are prohibited and which aren't?


      We've updated our Terms of Use to clarify what kinds of uses of the website and the YouTube Embeddable Player are permitted. We don't want to discourage you from putting the occasional YouTube video in your blog to comment on it or show your readers a video that you like, even if you have general-purpose ads somewhere on your blog. We will, however, enforce our Terms of Use against, say, a website that does nothing more than aggregate a bunch of embedded YouTube videos and intentionally tries to generate ad revenue from them.

      What kinds of commercial uses of the YouTube website are prohibited and which aren't? - YouTube Help
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      • Profile picture of the author onSubie
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        I believe this is incorrect. Here's what I could find in Youtube's TOS regarding commercial use. And I couldn't find anything concerning private membership sites.
        Hi

        You can find it right in the text you quoted from YouTube:

        "You agree not to use the Service for any of the following commercial uses unless you obtain YouTube's prior written approval:
        • the sale of access to the Service; "
        Charging a member fee would certainly be sale of access.

        And

        "We will, however, enforce our Terms of Use against, say, a website that does nothing more than aggregate a bunch of embedded YouTube videos and intentionally tries to generate ad revenue from them."

        They use the example of a public aggregate site targetting AdSense, but a paid member site would also be intentionally trying to generate revenue.

        You can be sure that a company republishing YouTube videos and charging for access would be a violation of this clause.

        Mahlon
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

          Hi

          You can find it right in the text you quoted from YouTube:


          "You agree not to use the Service for any of the following commercial uses unless you obtain YouTube's prior written approval:
          • the sale of access to the Service; "
          Charging a member fee would certainly be sale of access.

          And

          "We will, however, enforce our Terms of Use against, say, a website that does nothing more than aggregate a bunch of embedded YouTube videos and intentionally tries to generate ad revenue from them."

          They use the example of a public aggregate site targetting AdSense, but a paid member site would also be intentionally trying to generate revenue.

          You can be sure that a company republishing YouTube videos and charging for access would be a violation of this clause.

          Mahlon
          I interpreted "The service" to be access to Youtube, but after re-reading the TOS, you may be correct.

          However, the "nothing more" phrase leaves much open to interpretation and seems to mean that using videos to generate revenue is allowed if additional non-Youtube content is provided.
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          • Profile picture of the author yourreviewer
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            I interpreted "The service" to be access to Youtube, but after re-reading the TOS, you may be correct.

            However, the "nothing more" phrase leaves much open to interpretation and seems to mean that using videos to generate revenue is allowed if additional non-Youtube content is provided.
            I have the same question too Kurt. If your paid membership site has additional content and you use the YouTube videos as buffer content, would that still be a violation?
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    I think if the majority of a paid access site was original content with a YouTube video embedded once in a while that would be acceptable "occasional use".

    The YT ToS (using the adsense model again) say occassional videos on ad sites are okay, but videos used for "nothing more than" to generate revenue would not be allowed.

    Of course this depends on YouTube enforcing their rules. There are a lot of sites with primarily YouTube embedded content that generate revenue from the video traffic.

    I have never read a story or heard a complaint of YouTube shutting down a video site/member site but their ToS seem to indicate they feel they have that right.

    Ironic that YouTube grew to dominate online video by publishing other people's trademarked content before being sold to Google and making some changes. Now they are all about protecting their own content and would be upset if some crazy students started a video sharing site that "stole" their content.

    YouTube does a poor job of keeping copyright material off their own site as can be seen by major Hollywood new releases regularly being uploaded and shared on YouTube- like last year's Sci-Fi thriller "Looper".

    Mahlon
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    Their TOS defines the emdeddable player as part of "the service"... so selling access to the player (ie, a membership site) would appear to be a violation.
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  • Profile picture of the author TamilYoung
    I guess it is not ethical or legal to use YouTube videos to your Membership sites even if it is an open license video. But you can always, render a lot of content from videos and make your own (video or other contents like ebooks reports etc) which is a cool idea for content creation. As one warrior said above, occasionally we can embed a related YouTube video but that should not be the major part.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
    I vaguely remember doing something like this way early in my IM career when I was looking for any and every way to make a quick buck.

    From memory (which isn't always reliable), I think I was using other people's YouTube videos as supplemental training that accompanied borrowed articles and a few other pieces of content as well. I could of been using the videos and such as an affiliate bonus too. I'm not sure.

    I wouldn't really advocate it today so much and would instead just create my own videos or hire a expert to do the videos for me so I could retain ownership of everything.

    However, inside some of my members areas I do embed some really good videos from people on YouTube but it's not the primary content.
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  • Profile picture of the author MusicMinCoach
    Hi eveyone,

    I see this is a pretty old thread, but I came across it while researching the topic. I'm in the process of creating a membership platform on Patreon. In a thread about video hosting options several people told me they simply upload their videos to youtube and then set them to unlisted. They all claim they've never had a problem.

    I also interpret the term "the service" to refer to Youtube. But other parts of it are unclear. For example it seems from reading the TOS that their main issue is with people who seek to earn ad-revenue from posting video content from others.

    I would be posting original content in the form of training videos. On the surface that doesn't seem to violate the the Youtube TOS. But they do seem just vague enough to allow Youtube to take an adverse action against you.

    It would be great to hear from people who have been using unlisted Youtube videos in maid memberships; especially anyone who has had their account suspended or taken down for doing so.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ajaymalik
    No, You Not, You can Add a Clip From that Video in Your Video. This is because if You Using Someone's Else Video than Your Customer Think - "This Guy Teach Thing in More Brief" they Move to That Video's guy Website from your. It decrease your Influence in Industry.
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    • Profile picture of the author MusicMinCoach
      I'm not personally interested in using anyone else's video content or even referring to anyone else's. Any video I use in my paid membership will be completely original. I'm just really trying to do due diligence on this.

      On the surface it would seem like Youtube would have an issue with this, but the TOS are vague. Then there are all the people who say they've been doing it this way for years without an issue.

      Even the creators of PressPlay have been advocating hosting your videos on Youtube since they launched.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ajaymalik
    If you're usign CMS like Wordpress. than There Are a Lot of Plugins Available Which Allow Your Embedded videos with a lot of customization.
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  • Profile picture of the author Killua7
    I wonder if this embedding is illegal.
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