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Why do affiliate marketers bother creating sites and ranking them for keywords when they can create a squidoo lens or hubpage for that keyword and rank for it without major seo.
Just a question. Wanna get some insights on this.
#affilate #lens #site #squidoo
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    Because Squidoo can take down your lens when they feel like it i.e. if the topic your lens is about is no longer allowed. Also, lens often go into un-featured status after a while meaning they are no longer indexed in the search engines until you add more content to your lens. With your own site, these things aren't a problem.

    Another reason why is that with your own site you can customize the look and structure more. With Squidoo, there are numerous ads in the sidebar and above the fold which can reduce the CTR to your affiliate links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by thegrandimkm View Post

    Why do affiliate marketers bother creating sites and ranking them for keywords when they can create a squidoo lens or hubpage for that keyword and rank for it without major seo.
    First, they normally can't (the so-called SEO advantages of Squidoo lenses are hugely exaggerated - often by people promoting Squidoo-related services/WSO's/whatever, but sometimes just by the graduates of the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing).

    Secondly, one doesn't own or control a Squidoo lens, and that's frequently a recipe for accidents ... or even disasters.

    If you read through this one thread slowly and carefully, and click on the links inside it, I think it might give you a "whole new perspective", as the saying goes: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...en-locked.html
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      the so-called SEO advantages of Squidoo lenses are hugely exaggerated
      Hmm....

      I'm running a test on this theory at the moment.
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      • Profile picture of the author cashcow
        Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

        Hmm....

        I'm running a test on this theory at the moment.
        I was actually just thinking to do this same thing...I never thought to do it and blindly believed the authority stuff. I'm pretty big on testing stuff to find out for yourself so you'd think I would know better. Must be slipping in my old age.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
          Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

          I was actually just thinking to do this same thing...I never thought to do it and blindly believed the authority stuff. I'm pretty big on testing stuff to find out for yourself so you'd think I would know better. Must be slipping in my old age.
          Yep. Testing things for yourselves is definitely the best way to go. Still, there are things to consider like keyword selection, competition, product(s), if the lens is being used to sell stuff, direct to your own sites or both, etc.

          I'd be interested in knowing how your tests turn out.

          Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

          Must be slipping in my old age.
          Oh, and 29 is NOT old! :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
          Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

          I was actually just thinking to do this same thing…I never thought to do it and blindly believed the authority stuff. I'm pretty big on testing stuff to find out for yourself so you'd think I would know better. Must be slipping in my old age.
          I test everything. That's one of the best lessons I've learnt this year. Thanks to Mr Schramko

          Infact if more people tested stuff for themselves, instead of asking "does this work?, does that work?" - half the posts on this forum wouldn't exist.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

        Hmm....

        I'm running a test on this theory at the moment.
        Just as a follow up on this (for those that are interested) Squidoo ranks very well in the search engines. Infact, it ranks better than I expected.

        Does this mean Im going to build out dozens of lenses?

        Quite the opposite actually.

        I dont see the point of working on an asset I dont own or control. If need be, I might consider it from time to time as a way of driving traffic to my own site, but for now its merely a "Oh, look at that, thats nice..."

        Build your own assets, not someone elses.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      First, they normally can't (the so-called SEO advantages of Squidoo lenses are hugely exaggerated - often by people promoting Squidoo-related services/WSO's/whatever, but sometimes just by the graduates of the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing).
      MMm I wonder where I fall into this list.

      I use squidoo regularly for my marketing efforts. I don´t offer any service, don´t plan to. I don´t know about the future... but this is how things are right now.

      The seo benefits... they are there. You can rank a lens much faster than most sites.

      Now... if I had to choose between putting the effort in my place or squidoo, I certainly choose my place. But squidoo is a great way to bring people to my place.


      I really don´t understand why there are so many "exclussive or"s about this subject.

      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Secondly, one doesn't own or control a Squidoo lens, and that's frequently a recipe for accidents ... or even disasters.
      This IS true, but not the whole truth. The first time I was introduced to squidoo was in the production of conversation domination. With only one lady in my team, we did all the outsourcer guides of that membership. It was an interesting effort. Do you know where the whole system came from?

      The guys who invented it had had a couple of thousandth sites de-indexed. Six figures checks one month... next one, nada... gone.

      Those where registered and built sites, some beautiful, some even had useful content.

      They were gaming the system and got slapped.

      Where am I going here? Everything online has elements we do not control. Everything has pros and contraries.

      In my opinion, it is all about using the system in any way that feels right to get to know people. Real people to build relationships with.

      Squidoo does that? Great! Your own site does that? Better! Forums? Why not?

      It is about the people.

      Just my 2 cents...

      Sandra
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
        Hi Sandra,

        First of all, I think it's awesome that you're doing well with Squidoo. If you're doing well with anything at all then you're doing better than 95% of everyone else. Very cool. :-)

        I'm currently in rebuilding mode. 95% of everything I do now will focus on building a list in every niche I enter. List building has much less risk than any other business model.

        Personally, I've been wiped out from writing well over 1000 articles (under different names, of course), wiped out from Google updates, wiped out from losing my Adwords account, etc. If I'd been building lists I wouldn't be starting over again. I just wanted to make that point. Starting over sucks! The good news is that one of my new sites has just begun to make sales again. Yay! :-)

        I've also built some Squidoo lenses, and will probably gradually build a few more. I started testing something and it doesn't make sense to stop now.

        I've discovered that, in a way, Squidoo is like its own little search engine. There are users that visit frequently and check out lenses that interest them. They like them, link to them, share them, etc and that helps to make some lenses sustainable for the long term.

        That being said, there's still the possibility of having your lenses shut down for no reason. Actually, if you're also relying heavily on SEO you're risking getting knocked out by both Squidoo AND Google.

        You mentioned this:


        Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

        This IS true, but not the whole truth. The first time I was introduced to squidoo was in the production of conversation domination. With only one lady in my team, we did all the outsourcer guides of that membership. It was an interesting effort. Do you know where the whole system came from?

        The guys who invented it had had a couple of thousandth sites de-indexed. Six figures checks one month... next one, nada... gone.

        Those where registered and built sites, some beautiful, some even had useful content.

        They were gaming the system and got slapped.
        There've been some sites that Google has used as "model" sites that have been slapped as well. Sites that weren't even "gaming the system", but were "supposedly" doing everything right. AskTheBuilder.com used to be a model site that Google referred to themselves in their Adsense advertising. I don't remember their exact wording, but they gave the impression that it was a site that was "doing things right". If that's true, then why did it get slapped so hard during the Panda update (Panda or Penguin?)?

        Let me ask this question. What does Squidoo offer to Google that would make them want to keep them at an elevated level of trust and authority?

        Are they making them money with their Adsense program?

        Yes, but so was AskTheBuilder.com, EzineArticles.com and many other sites.

        Do they provide a good user experience?

        Some lenses do, but there are also others that don't. There was a thread deleted on here earlier that said that of the 1.6 million (something like that) lenses on Squidoo only around 589,000 were currently indexed. That would mean that the staff at Squidoo would have to somehow physically review nearly 600,000 active lenses for quality.

        Do you think that they have the resources to do that on a consistent basis? Not likely. They may be able to check for duplicate content, PLR, etc, but not to check the actual quality of the content.

        Do you know who DOES have the resources? Google does. Not to consistently check them all, but to check lenses that are being ranked high for quality, just like any other site. Just like any other site, if the quality doesn't provide a good user experience, Google will drop them like a rock.

        If there comes a point where the quality of lenses begins to suffer then there's a good chance that Google could bring the hammer down on them too. Just sayin'.


        Originally Posted by Sandra Martinez View Post

        Where I am going here? Everything online has elements we do not control. Everything has pros and contraries.

        In my opinion, it is all about using the system in any way that feels right to get to know people. Real people to build relationships with.

        Squidoo does that? Great! Your own site does that? Better! Forums? Why not?

        It is about the people.
        You're absolutely right. It IS all about the people. However, if you're building your entire business on quicksand, as I and many others have done before, you're setting yourself up for potential disaster. Build lists in every niche and build relationships with people that way. Set up your own sites and brand yourself. Over time you'll begin to get direct traffic as well as search traffic. Build up assets that you own that can be sold if you ever get tired of the niche or just want to retire.

        Use outside resources like Squidoo as tools, not your primary assets.

        Just my two cents. :-)

        Good luck.

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        • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          Hi Sandra,

          First of all, I think it's awesome that you're doing well with Squidoo. If you're doing well with anything at all then you're doing better than 95% of everyone else. Very cool. :-)
          Hi Joe,
          I don´t make money with squidoo, I just use it for traffic to my sites. And, as you mention, to connect with people. The community over there is very active and responsive in relation with my niches.

          It is not my only traffic source. That is just suicide.

          The funnel used to be: squidoo (other properties) > free book > my site

          In one site I changed the free book by a paid one in kindle a couple of days ago. I still do not have all the stats, but I hope it will give me more exposure and authority.

          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post


          I'm currently in rebuilding mode. 95% of everything I do now will focus on building a list in every niche I enter. List building has much less risk than any other business model.
          That is a good move. I am a bit erratic with lists, but I know it is inevitable. Said that, lists can be frozen too, it is an interesting balancing act.

          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          Personally, I've been wiped out from writing well over 1000 articles (under different names, of course), wiped out from Google updates, wiped out from losing my Adwords account, etc. If I'd been building lists I wouldn't be starting over again. I just wanted to make that point. Starting over sucks!
          Ouch!!!


          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          The good news is that one of my new sites has just begun to make sales again. Yay! :-)
          Congrats!!!

          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          I've also built some Squidoo lenses, and will probably gradually build a few more. I started testing something and it doesn't make sense to stop now.

          I've discovered that, in a way, Squidoo is like its own little search engine. There are users that visit frequently and check out lenses that interest them. They like them, link to them, share them, etc and that helps to make some lenses sustainable for the long term.

          That being said, there's still the possibility of having your lenses shut down for no reason. Actually, if you're also relying heavily on SEO you're risking getting knocked out by both Squidoo AND Google.
          There is always risk. Did you study Seth Godin? His philosophic approach is quite clear, it is not that hard to get into the flow in Squidoo. The man talks about what he wants from you.


          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          There've been some sites that Google has used as "model" sites that have been slapped as well. Sites that weren't even "gaming the system", but were "supposedly" doing everything right. AskTheBuilder.com used to be a model site that Google referred to themselves in their Adsense advertising. I don't remember their exact wording, but they gave the impression that it was a site that was "doing things right". If that's true, then why did it get slapped so hard during the Panda update (Panda or Penguin?)?
          And this can happen with any site, this is why diversifying the traffic sources is necessary. The algorithms don´t have friends, they just do whatever they are asked to do. And in most cases those who implement them, don´t know what will happen completely until they see it into action.

          It is very difficult to quantify something as abstract as the user experience. Even applying fuzzy logic is "fuzzy".

          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          Let me ask this question. What does Squidoo offer to Google that would make them want to keep them at an elevated level of trust and authority?

          Are they making them money with their Adsense program?

          Yes, but so was AskTheBuilder.com, EzineArticles.com and many other sites.

          Do they provide a good user experience?

          Some lenses do, but there are also others that don't. There was a thread deleted on here earlier that said that of the 1.6 million (something like that) lenses on Squidoo only around 589,000 were currently indexed. That would mean that the staff at Squidoo would have to somehow physically review nearly 600,000 active lenses for quality.

          Do you think that they have the resources to do that on a consistent basis? Not likely. They may be able to check for duplicate content, PLR, etc, but not to check the actual quality of the content.

          Do you know who DOES have the resources? Google does. Not to consistently check them all, but to check lenses that are being ranked high for quality, just like any other site. Just like any other site, if the quality doesn't provide a good user experience, Google will drop them like a rock.

          If there comes a point where the quality of lenses begins to suffer then there's a good chance that Google could bring the hammer down on them too. Just sayin'.
          I am not a "squidoo advocate". It just happens to work for me as traffic source.

          Said that, I don´t know if you remember.... but google did slap squidoo a couple of years ago. And they recovered fast.

          They don´t necessarily review everything, but the lenses do better if they are approved by the community. That is, you will likely have a super squid or a squid angel visiting at one point or another.

          Lenses that do not do well, go to red which is the equivalent to be de-indexed.


          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          You're absolutely right. It IS all about the people. However, if you're building your entire business on quicksand, as I and many others have done before, you're setting yourself up for potential disaster. Build lists in every niche and build relationships with people that way. Set up your own sites and brand yourself. Over time you'll begin to get direct traffic as well as search traffic. Build up assets that you own that can be sold if you ever get tired of the niche or just want to retire.
          That IS what I do (or try to... ).

          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          Use outside resources like Squidoo as tools, not your primary assets.
          Completely agree. All my lenses take to my sites.


          Sandra
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  • Profile picture of the author wordpressmania
    You need something that is totally yours! You can not depend on other websites, instead you can use them to rank your own site!
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    Because whatever you write will be Squidoo's property.
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  • Profile picture of the author Deacon Blues
    Build your sites and then do quick lenses to advertise and drive traffic for your sites. Creating a lens takes like 10 minutes since you already have all of your information, links, pictures and videos organized from making your site.

    I get a lot of traffic to my sites from quickly put up lenses.
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    • Profile picture of the author realnetworker
      Originally Posted by Deacon Blues View Post

      Build your sites and then do quick lenses to advertise and drive traffic for your sites. Creating a lens takes like 10 minutes since you already have all of your information, links, pictures and videos organized from making your site.

      I get a lot of traffic to my sites from quickly put up lenses.
      I agree with Deacon Blues - I have Squidoo lenses for the main purpose of driving traffic to my websites. Now it doesn't always help much - I have three websites and my lenses are only really driving successful traffic, (average of 700 + visitors per month), to one of them, although I used the same approach with all 3. So I think it can be a bit of hit or miss.

      But definitely do not use Squidoo instead of your own website! Just as a supplement
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
        Originally Posted by realnetworker View Post

        I agree with Deacon Blues - I have Squidoo lenses for the main purpose of driving traffic to my websites. Now it doesn't always help much - I have three websites and my lenses are only really driving successful traffic, (average of 700 + visitors per month), to one of them, although I used the same approach with all 3. So I think it can be a bit of hit or miss.

        But definitely do not use Squidoo instead of your own website! Just as a supplement
        I agree. I purchased an excellent WSO a couple months ago (on the recommendation of a very trustworthy marketer) that teaches some "little known" methods on how to properly take advantage of Squidoo and the many built-in features it offers. I can't go into detail without sharing information from the paid product, but I will say that it's very good.

        That being said, I still wouldn't build my entire business on ANY property that I don't own (and neither does the author of the product or the person that recommended it).

        Use Squidoo as one of your resources for testing products and backlinking to your own sites, but don't put all of your time, energy and assets into building lenses (or building on any other web property that you don't own).

        Always, always back up your lenses!

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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Damar
          Squidoo lens are a very affordable (FREE)... option for you to test something first before wasting time and effort making a site and buying hosting and domain.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by Paul Damar View Post

            Squidoo lens are a very affordable (FREE)... option for you to test something first
            They're actually no more affordable or free than testing it on a site you yourself own and control on free hosting at Byethost, 000WebHost or Freehostia (or even Weebly or Wix, if you specifically don't want to use a Wordpress site), Paul.

            You don't even need to buy a domain-name to use any of those safer, better, more appropriate places instead.
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          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          I agree. I purchased an excellent WSO a couple months ago (on the recommendation of a very trustworthy marketer) that teaches some "little known" methods on how to properly take advantage of Squidoo and the many built-in features it offers. I can't go into detail without sharing information from the paid product, but I will say that it's very good.

          That being said, I still wouldn't build my entire business on ANY property that I don't own (and neither does the author of the product or the person that recommended it).

          Use Squidoo as one of your resources for testing products and backlinking to your own sites, but don't put all of your time, energy and assets into building lenses (or building on any other web property that you don't own).

          Always, always back up your lenses!

          My two bits.

          Can you tell me the name of the squidoo WSO as I am looking for some help here in setting up a few lenses? You can PM if you want. Thanks P
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
            Originally Posted by papeter View Post

            Can you tell me the name of the squidoo WSO as I am looking for some help here in setting up a few lenses? You can PM if you want. Thanks P
            PM sent. No affiliate link either. You can just do a search for it in the WSO section.

            HTH

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  • Profile picture of the author Jonwebb
    pretty much agree with everyone else here, I had a hubpages account, as soon as I began to make a lil bread with out a warning I was banned. All because I linked to my squeeze page....r
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  • Profile picture of the author thegrandimkm
    I read the thread word for word.
    THANKS Alexa.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrImperialGold
    Squidoo can take your lens down and it is harder to make money with squidoo. I only have made about $3 and I was with squidoo for a year. Squidoo took down most of my lens. Plus your lens needs a certain rank to actually make money with squidoo.
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  • Profile picture of the author daisy172
    Originally Posted by thegrandimkm View Post

    Why do affiliate marketers bother creating sites and ranking them for keywords when they can create a squidoo lens or hubpage for that keyword and rank for it without major seo.
    Just a question. Wanna get some insights on this.
    Well, it might seem that it's easier to be a parasite on Squidoo or Hubpages or wherever, but most of these Web 2.0 sites end up getting penalised by Google.

    Hubpages has been hurt badly. See the following page on how Infobarrel has been hurt (about a year ago, people were touting Infobarrel as the alternative to Hubpages). It's only a matter of time before Squidoo gets penalised.

    Infobarrel Statistics - see how this site is performing

    The benefit of having your own site is that you control everything, the structure, the quality of the content, how it looks. You may write a brilliant piece on hubpages, but some other people may be posting dross which tanks the site and takes you down with it. You can waste a lot of time on web2.0 sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    Originally Posted by thegrandimkm View Post

    Why do affiliate marketers bother creating sites and ranking them for keywords when they can create a squidoo lens or hubpage for that keyword and rank for it without major seo.
    Just a question. Wanna get some insights on this.
    Can you point to a decent search term where Squidoo or Hubpages have a good ranking? I won't hold my breath..... Squidoo and Hubpages are the internet equivalent of writing unimportant crap on a napkin because you can't be bothered to get a piece of paper.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lena Williams
    I was reading this thread a few minutes ago
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...e-seconds.html
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  • Profile picture of the author minimalseo
    Apart from everything that's already well so mentioned by some revered voices here, mainly on owning what you build...if I may add my two cents..you can't 'flip' a built up lens..unlike a well built up site or even a decently ranked domain which you can sell for a good price. Agreed the purpose here is to drive traffic to your then running offers and the shelf life may be transitory..but we are marketers, we can't leave money on the table, can we?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Eight
      Originally Posted by minimalseo View Post

      Apart from everything that's already well so mentioned by some revered voices here, mainly on owning what you build...if I may add my two cents..you can't 'flip' a built up lens..unlike a well built up site or even a decently ranked domain which you can sell for a good price. Agreed the purpose here is to drive traffic to your then running offers and the shelf life may be transitory..but we are marketers, we can't leave money on the table, can we?
      Sure you can "flip" a lens. Lenses can be transferred from one lensmaster to another. You can very easily sell your lenses if you are active in the appropriate community.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimvol
    Squidoo does allow you to download the content if they lock it.

    I read the TOS from Squidoo. It seems that Google has a LOT of control over what lenses go up and what go down. I read on their site that Google actually asks them to remove lenses that may not comply with their Adsense TOS.

    There is a reason that Squidoo ranks high.

    Thanks

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    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
      Originally Posted by jimvol View Post

      Squidoo does allow you to download the content if they lock it.

      I read the TOS from Squidoo. It seems that Google has a LOT of control over what lenses go up and what go down. I read on their site that Google actually asks them to remove lenses that may not comply with their Adsense TOS.

      There is a reason that Squidoo ranks high.

      Thanks

      Jeremiah
      Oh... if I get it right, then this rules out ANY affiliate marketing...

      And what happens with Amazon and Ebay? They do coexist with google ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMac
    Squidoo is like a nice turkey and swiss sandwich. It is easy to make, most people like it and it smells good when it is first made. Let it sit too long though and it starts to smell and eventually gets thrown away.

    A website you own is like wine, it takes time to age but the longer it is out there the better google likes it and the more valuable it becomes.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    There is a place for both. My preferred strategy is to build my own websites and target low competition products with them. I tend to rank very well right out of the gate more often than not. However, that's not to say I don't ever use Squidoo either. I do own many lenses across many niches and accounts. Although I use Squidoo mainly to test "rankability" for a given product, I do earn quite a bit from them as well.

    As with anything, it's always good to diversify. Something about eggs and a basket
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      I do own many lenses
      Do you really?

      What's the deal? Who actually owns the content published on Squidoo? Does anyone know?
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

        Do you really?

        What's the deal? Who actually owns the content published on Squidoo? Does anyone know?
        The lens creator owns the content. From Squidoo TOS:

        4. The content: who owns it?
        As a Lensmaster, you will be able to incorporate various forms of Content into your Lenses. Squidoo does not claim ownership of the Content you place on your Lens. The Content will be owned by you or a third party from whom you got permission to post the content. By placing Content on your Lens, however, you grant Squidoo a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license, for as long as your Lens is displayed on Squidoo, to reproduce, display, modify, adapt and publish the Content solely for the purpose of displaying, distributing and promoting your Lens on Squidoo. Squidoo may preserve and store Content, and may also disclose Content if required to do so by law or if Squidoo believes in good faith that such preservation or disclosure is reasonably necessary to: (a) comply with legal process (e.g., subpoenas); (b) enforce these Terms of Service; (c) respond to claims that any Content violates the rights of third parties; or (d) protect the rights, property, or personal safety of Squidoo, its users and the public.

        The Lensmaster, and not Squidoo, will be fully responsible for all Content that is uploaded, posted, transmitted or otherwise made available by the Lensmaster on his or her Lens. Squidoo cannot guarantee the accuracy, integrity or quality of such Content. Squidoo does not pre-screen Content, but will have the right (but not the obligation) in its sole discretion to refuse or remove any Content in a Lens for any reason, including Content that may violate these Terms, or that is otherwise objectionable. Squidoo also cannot take responsibility for anything that your surfers may do in reliance on the Content you post in your Lens. Bottom line: put it on your Lens, you're responsible.

        Squidoo provides pre-built modules that make it easy for you to find and add links to various sites. However, just because we provide these modules does not mean we are responsible for their accuracy. The Lensmaster is still responsible for what links he or she elects to put in his or her Lens.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaz Cooper
    Many of the products I promote I have MULTIPLE google page 1 listings I focus mainly on my Authority sites but also will have another page 1 listing in a youtube video and I will also use Squidoo to grab yet a third listing this way you have multiple chances out of 10 to get a click.

    The focus is to be sure you are building your OWN ASSET and use the others as complimentary listing to grab additional traffic opportunities and clicks.

    Kickin it on Amazon

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    • Profile picture of the author bella57
      If you're thinking of building a business, you will invest in a domain because you're the owner and you get full control. You can plan your strategies and build your business to reach its full potential. Squidoo lenses are good for driving traffic to your own site (your business) as they do rank quite easily.

      Ultimately, I would focus on building my own business not someone else's.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stevie C
    I use Squidoo and do OK with it, I get what Alexa is saying and have a lot of respect for her as a marketer but she has got a real downer on Squidoo!

    I personally use a real mix of methods to make affiliate sales including Squidoo, Video Marketing, Authority Sites and smaller niche sites.

    As Gaz says

    'The focus is to be sure you are building your OWN ASSET and use the others as complimentary listing to grab additional traffic opportunities and clicks.'
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  • Profile picture of the author kaposzta
    If you need a small Amazon site - choose Squidoo.
    If you want to build a huge, authority site - don't Squidoo.

    On Squidoo, you have a high, but limited earning potential (I earn $300-$500 per month), but with a huge, non-Squidoo site you can earn much more. In addition, it's hard to sell Squidoo lenses.

    I really like Squidoo, but it has its limits.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stevie C
      Originally Posted by kaposzta View Post

      If you need a small Amazon site - choose Squidoo.
      If you want to build a huge, authority site - don't Squidoo.

      On Squidoo, you have a high, but limited earning potential (I earn $300-$500 per month), but with a huge, non-Squidoo site you can earn much more. In addition, it's hard to sell Squidoo lenses.

      I really like Squidoo, but it has its limits.
      I'm not sure about that I've seen earning claims of over $15,000 a month from Squidoo and also seen Squidoo lenses for sale at $99 a Lens.

      Certainly agree that an Authority Site is the safest bet though.
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      • Profile picture of the author kaposzta
        Originally Posted by Stevie C View Post

        I'm not sure about that I've seen earning claims of over $15,000 a month from Squidoo and also seen Squidoo lenses for sale at $99 a Lens.

        Certainly agree that an Authority Site is the safest bet though.
        Yes, there are a couple of lensmaster earning thousands of bucks on Squidoo, but they are the 0.1% of the users. And I think I'm in the top 1% with my montly $300 I'm extremely lazy, and I'm working on my lenses maybe 2-3 hours a week, so I think I could scale it up... If someone has experience AND working hard on his/her lenses, sky is the limit
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    Originally Posted by thegrandimkm View Post

    Why do affiliate marketers bother creating sites and ranking them for keywords when they can create a squidoo lens or hubpage for that keyword and rank for it without major seo.
    Just a question. Wanna get some insights on this.
    Simply because you do not OWN Squidoo lens. I agree, they rank really well BUT if you have a Squidoo lens and it was promoting an Amazon product and making $400 a week for you if they choose they could lock your lens and then you would be back at square one.

    Also if you had a site that was making $400 a week and you keep it, build it up etc... it can be worth good money when you sell it.
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  • Profile picture of the author raheelmushtaq
    Squidoo not reliable, you have full control over your website but if you are newbie you can try to work ON squidoo: )
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