Do you have any success with Ezine Articles ?

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Hi Warriors,
I've published a few articles on ezinearticles.com but there is hardly any traffic and the conversion is pretty low.
Am I doing something wrong ?
#articles #ezine #success
  • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
    I've never really use EzineArticles a ton for actual traffic, mainly just because the articles get syndicated so quickly. I would definitely not depend solely on their website for getting traffic but I'm sure Alexa Smith will be by soon to drop some pointers for you
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  • Profile picture of the author ajbarnes777
    Don't rely on EZA (or any other directory) for direct traffic. Just use it as a medium to potentially get your content syndicated.

    However, if you are in a sexuality niche, you can still do pretty good with traffic there. Just look at the view counts in the Relationships and Mens Health categories. That being said, I still wouldn't depend on the traffic there (especially since a lot of that traffic is probably other marketers).

    Bottom line, focus on syndication. The moment you go down that path of trying to get traffic from an article directory, you'll be in a dark, frustrating, and very miserable place. Trust me, I've been there!
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    • Hi Guys and Gals,

      I've used EA for many years and have found a marked difference in the response, depending on what niche I'm writing for.

      For example, I'm active in the alternative health niche and this gets a far better clickthrough rate than internet marketing articles.

      However, the world has moved on and you're likely get a better response nowadays from guest blogging, where you create a unique article for the owner of a high traffic blog or web site.

      A good place to start with this would be the folks who have already taken your articles from EA.

      Because it proves:
      1. They are looking for outside content.
      2. They like your writing.

      So this gives you some common ground with which to make contact.

      The way to find where you articles have been syndicated to is to put the exact title (in quotes) into Google. Then check the Alexa traffic stats for the sites you find to see if they get decent levels of traffic. If you're producing a unique article for them, you want to be sure it's worth your while!

      Warmest regards,

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author rorshach
        When I was just starting out I wrote about 10 articles ( all photography related). About a month after I posted them on EA one of them got syndicated and I earned about $200 from that. It's not much but if you're just starting out it feels like a million dollars

        Thanks for writing those posts Alexa, they helped me a lot!
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Let's put it this way...

          Trying to drive conversions from any article directory (and, IMO, EZA is still the best one) is like trying to drive a heavy spike with a screwdriver. Hammer away at it long enough, and you may sink the nail, but it's hardly efficient.
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      • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
        Originally Posted by Paul Hooper-Kelly View Post


        However, the world has moved on and you're likely get a better response nowadays from guest blogging, where you create a unique article for the owner of a high traffic blog or web site.
        This is the best advice in the thread.

        EZA is SOOOOO 2009. That ship sailed after Panda dropped.

        There are 1000 better ways to generate traffic than EZA...guest blogging being one of the better ones.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by Auctiondebteliminator View Post

          Why anyone would give content away since Panda is beyond me.
          Beyond you, apparently, but not beyond large and increasing numbers of us here who make our livings and build our businesses that way (all the more profitably and productively since the additional benefits to article marketers arising from the Panda updates, as so many of us have been explaining here for over a year and a half, now).

          Originally Posted by Backlinko View Post

          There are 1000 better ways to generate traffic than EZA...
          Undoubtedly. Nobody's suggesting otherwise, but you seem - somewhere along the line - to have missed the point that EZA isn't a way of generating traffic from EZA at all, and was never intended to be.

          That isn't what article directories are for.

          This thread may help you both, guys (but only if you're willing to read it rather than posting all this nonsense! ): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872
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          • Profile picture of the author seregap
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            Beyond you, apparently, but not beyond large and increasing numbers of us here who make our livings and build our businesses that way (all the more profitably and productively since the additional benefits to article marketers arising from the Panda updates, as so many of us have been explaining here for over a year and a half, now).
            yeah thats why internet is full of case studies of people sharing their experience, success and earnings with guest blogging and 0 case studies from "large and increasing numbers" of yous whose stuff got syndicated all over the place from eza.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by JackCronfield View Post

    Do you have any success with Ezine Articles ?
    Yes, but I'm using it for the purpose for which it's intended (which coincidentally happens to be the only purpose it can fulfil at all, these days - though I think that wasn't always true).

    Originally Posted by JackCronfield View Post

    I've published a few articles on ezinearticles.com but there is hardly any traffic and the conversion is pretty low.
    Am I doing something wrong ?
    Yes.

    For all the reasons explained in this post, no article marketer would/should want to get potential customer traffic from Ezine Articles. We all lose most of that traffic. EZA makes its living out of the AdSense clicks of all the people who don't get as far as our own sites. Those are people we want coming directly to our sites and not going to EZA (and that's easy to arrange). They're not the people for whom we're submitting our articles to EZA.

    Articles are submitted to EZA for one purpose and for one purpose only, and that's for potential publishers to find them there. Those are the people who search there (inside EZA, not "inside Google"!), and the people whose content needs EZA was set up to serve. That's what article directories are for.

    The one thing you don't want is a high potential-customer CTR from an article in EZA to your site: that means you're losing potential traffic and potential income. In 2010, my income from my articles rose steadily and consistently as my Ezine Articles CTR gradually fell from nearly 45% to nearly 15% (once I'd learned how article directories work). It's a little counter-intuitive at first glance, I know, and even some people (actually quite a lot of people!) who have been using article directories for years seem not quite to have appreciated how they really work.

    A careful read through this thread, and its links, will help you a lot, Jack: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholas08
    About 3 years ago, I have a platinum account at ezine and it generated good money for me. Lately, I think they are not that popular anymore. The traffic keeps going down the hill for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by nicholas08 View Post

      Lately, I think they are not that popular anymore. The traffic keeps going down the hill for me.
      They're less popular with potential customers who search in Google, yes, because fewer of them find those copies now than previously. That's a good thing for article marketers, not a bad thing. That makes EZA better for us to use, not worse. It makes it easier and more worthwhile for us to use the directory for its intended purpose without worrying that we're unnecessarily losing potential customer traffic as a result, as explained in detail in the thread linked to in post #5 above.
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  • Profile picture of the author Beverley Boorer
    I am still annoyed with EZA for refusing to publish any articles about plr content - even though it was certainly not blatant advertising - and refusing to allow links to my plr website. It is useful knowledge that should be known. And even though I had been given some accollade for other articles - that means nothing really.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Beverley Boorer View Post

      I am still annoyed with EZA for refusing to publish any articles about plr content - even though it was certainly not blatant advertising - and refusing to allow links to my plr website.
      Yes, that one's a really "raw nerve" with them. They're so absolute about not tolerating any mention of PLR at all. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Beverley Boorer View Post

      I am still annoyed with EZA for refusing to publish any articles about plr content - even though it was certainly not blatant advertising - and refusing to allow links to my plr website. It is useful knowledge that should be known. And even though I had been given some accollade for other articles - that means nothing really.
      Don't blame EZA for this one. Blame all the clueless wunderkinder who thought posting the same garbage articles a thousand times and "teaching' others to do the same was a solid strategy, and that EZA was there solely for their benefit. The ones who nearly killed off EZA.

      Their only choice was the same one that had to be made here - certain topics and practices are taboo, no exceptions. Otherwise, their editors and support people would spend all their time arguing with people insisting that somehow their content was different and should be allowed. Think of it like a bunch of whiny toddlers wailing 'but they got to do it, why not me.'

      I'm not making any comment on your content specifically, as I don't recall ever reading it. It could be Nobel-worthy, and still more trouble for the site owner and staff than it's worth.
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  • Why anyone would give content away since Panda is beyond me.

    Put content on your own site - and have that good, original, content on YOUR site so Google will rank YOU based on that.

    More indexed pages with More quality content seems to be where Google has been trying to get us to go since their inception.

    They still want quality websites from us.
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  • The OP was asking if he was 'doing anything wrong' by submitting to EZA and 'not generating any traffic'.

    And because that activity is 'not intended to drive traffic' then, by submitting to EZA, is the mistake he's making.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    EzineArticles has taken a hit, but you can still get traffic from it. Article directories seem to work best when submitting in bulk... hope you can keep up with the demand. Don't forget posting on your own site either.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    I may have bumped heads with Alexa over the years (she probably doesn't remember this, but when she was relatively new here I once accused her of being a dude just using a photo of a hot girl )

    But I agree with her 95% here (well, I agree with the bulk of what she say's now).

    Build YOUR business and websites, not somebody elses.

    If you're posting articles to directories in hopes of getting traffic from those directories, then you are only providing THEM with free content for their own adsense site (which is what those directories actually are).
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    • Profile picture of the author genietoast
      EZA was huge in the old days of article marketing. But once people started getting ten billion links from article directories, Google sent in the Panda and penguin after them.

      EZA got hit bad and lost a lot of their traffic. Hubpages was another. You can still use these sites for profiles, but with social media and guest posting, there seems like other ways you can gather traffic that are better.
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    • Profile picture of the author talfighel
      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      you are only providing THEM with free content for their own adsense site (which is what those directories actually are).
      Amen to that.

      EZA does that best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bellerine
    I can't speak to using EZA for any other reason than bringing traffic to my very specific pay site. For that, it has worked. I wrote an article that took maybe half an hour several months ago. Since then, I get a few hits a day from it. Here's the thing though, the conversion rate is around 75%

    As I said, people who find the article are already searching for a specific need, a need my site fills. It works to lend credibility and third party endorsement.

    Several sites have grabbed it as content. Yes, I'm giving them free content, but for my purpose of converting traffic to sales, it's free advertising that works.

    Just my experience from another perspective.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by napoleonfirst View Post

    Ezinearticles is just a tool to leverage its power to get top ranking for keywords.
    This is total nonsense. That has nothing to do with the purpose or function of an article directory at all. Your "information" is many years out of date. Nobody who knows what they're doing is trying to use EZA for its rankings.

    This thread will help you, Napoleon, but only if you're willing to read it (which I doubt, since you apparently never check the replies to any of your posts but simply keep on and on repeating the same urban-myth-based misinformation, and misguided advice, from thread to thread): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872
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  • Profile picture of the author evilsaigon
    Well, ezinearticles is more for SEO purposes rather than grabbing direct customers.

    If you want to focus on grabbing direct customers, here's a hint - forums in your niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by evilsaigon View Post

      Well, ezinearticles is more for SEO purposes rather than grabbing direct customers..
      Nope, not even close. Re-read Alexa's responses. EZA is the LAST place anyone should be looking to for SEO purposes. It never ceases to amaze me how much inaccurate information people write about EZA.

      Setting up your own blog and promoting your own content would get you far better results.

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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by seregap View Post

        yeah thats why internet is full of case studies of people sharing their experience, success and earnings with guest blogging
        I don't read many of those things, these days, but it doesn't surprise me at all. Guest blogging is, after all, just a slight variation on article marketing. The underlying principle is exactly the same: you're taking your writing to where the targeted traffic is already looking. Like many of the other article marketers here, I do plenty of it myself. Targeted traffic (and even context-relevant backlinks, for people wanting some SEO benefits, too): what's not to like?

        Originally Posted by seregap View Post

        and 0 case studies from "large and increasing numbers" of yous whose stuff got syndicated all over the place from eza.
        I get little traffic from the syndication of my EZAarticles now, because I've been active in all my niches for quite a while, and arrange most of my own sydnication pro-actively. The EZA copies are just "for the ones I've missed" or any newer ones I'm unaware of. As I keep on explaining in these threads, EZA is only an afterthought: it's only passive syndication; it's slower, less reliable and more variable. I've only said this about 500 times here, but you must have missed the other 499 posts, judging by your apparent - and totally mistaken - assumption that I'm extolling the virtues or indeed the chances of achieving bulk syndication through EZA in its own right. It can be helpful; it's "something extra" (when it works); it costs nothing to try; it takes very little time; you can sometimes use it as a method of adding people to your syndication-list: these are its main advantages. It's hardly a "complete underlying basis" for a successful article marketing business, as so many of us keep patiently explaining at such length and with such regularity.

        Sorry to take all the wind out of your sails like this, but as you can see, I normally use the word "afterthought" (and/or "not something to depend on") to describe syndication achieved through EZA.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7557919
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7538645
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7527342
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7444653
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7387080
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7233198
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7190578
        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6808280

        Anyway, we clearly agree that guest blogging (as I so regularly point out) is, overall, a far better prospect than passive syndication.

        Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

        EZA is the LAST place anyone should be looking to for SEO purposes.
        This. Exactly.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Another likely reason you see more case studies for guest blogging than for wide syndication is the complexity of tracking clicks from article to purchase, especially for affiliates.

          You post an article on EZA, and wonder of wonders, a handful of people pick it up. They all publish it, complete with identical links. You look at your site stats and you notice that you got 100 clicks on the link in the syndicated article. Which site sent which clicks? And which visitor did what when they arrived? Add in sites that have published multiple articles of yours, as well as the ones that arrived via a link in an email, and compiling numbers that make any sense at that level is very difficult.

          I like to keep it simple. If someone indicates that they want my content, and meet even minimal standards, they can use it with my blessing. If I notice a source climbing the ranks of referrers, I might reach out to them for some special treatment.
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          • Profile picture of the author LaineM
            I remember I used to submit all my articles to EZ, and it worked well on my SEO efforts. But nowdays I have completely outsourced the whole SEO process and I don't submit articles anymore. I learn that it is not as popular as it used to be though...
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

            Another likely reason you see more case studies for guest blogging than for wide syndication is the complexity of tracking clicks from article to purchase, especially for affiliates.
            In my marketing, nearly every activity is closely tracked to measure and maximize effectiveness, including the revenue production of articles from syndication publishers. A system I use for tracking sales results from syndicated articles (including those republished from EZA) is shown here:
            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5399317
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by myob View Post

              In my marketing, nearly every activity is closely tracked to measure and maximize effectiveness, including the revenue production of articles from syndication publishers. A system I use for tracking sales results from syndicated articles (including those republished from EZA) is shown here:
              http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5399317
              I remember that post, and the simplicity for tracking individual publishers. Maybe I'm being dense here, but I'm trying to figure out how one could track the following:

              Article published to EZA with link somelink.com/?EZAxxxx

              Article picked up by five outlets and republished. If the EZA TOS are followed, each link would be somelink.com/?EZAxxxx. How would one track a sale to see which of the five outlets republishing the EZA article generated the sale? Or am I trying to play chess at a checkers tournament?
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              • Profile picture of the author connorbringas
                Success is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I have seen some success with EZA, still the best article directory out there. However, it isnt all that great.
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  • Profile picture of the author jclindayag
    Hi JackCronfield!

    I think you should not focus too much in getting leads in ezine. There are more better web 2.0 sites which you can get better leads. Try blogger or blogspot.com. The good thing about this is that you can monitor or track the page views of your particular article.
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  • Profile picture of the author adsense786
    i am using ezinearticle one for seo ( backlink ) and it is very good result for seo
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  • Profile picture of the author heartnet02
    How about web 2.0 sites? Would they be more beneficial than using your content on ezine?
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  • Profile picture of the author kayode10
    Originally Posted by JackCronfield View Post

    Hi Warriors,
    I've published a few articles on ezinearticles.com but there is hardly any traffic and the conversion is pretty low.
    Am I doing something wrong ?
    Dear Jack, you are not doing any thing wrong, what you really don't know is that ezinearticles.com has been hit by google update drastically, so using the site for both backlink building and traffic is just a waste of time, stay away from it. cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author higherluv
    I suppose you can still use EZA, but I've backed off from that as it doesn't generate as much traffic as before - say 8 or even 4 years ago. I suppose it does help us and EZA in some sort of way, however.

    I've seen guest blogging been mentioned here a few times already in this thread as a better alternative. Anyone know a good source that talks more about it?
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